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May 31, 2020 12:09:52   #
SGM B Loc: TEXAS but live in Alabama now
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Have you seen the video of the white guy breaking all the windows at an auto zone? He tried to hide his identity. He walked away after breaking all the windows. This was a setup.


I have and on that we can agree - there is a hell of a lot of this that is a set up. I saw a tweet of a white man handing money to a black kid and telling him where to go. Total paid setup, I said earlier way too many of these r****rs don't know who G****e F***d was and flat don't care. I see low life b****s and scum bag white trash trashing our country and it pisses me off to no end. I think it is past time to start kicking ass and taking names. All it would take is a battalion of mechanized infantry and these paid "tuff guys/girls" would melt like the scum they are.
SGM B out

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May 31, 2020 12:16:29   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
'Did Anybody See A Cop Needing To Have His Knee On A Handcuffed Person For Seven Minutes?"

Yep!!! that is worth a TV or two.

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May 31, 2020 12:23:49   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
dtucker300 wrote:
Nothing like a crisis makes a person show their true colors so that people finally see them for what they really are.


Absolutely true.

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May 31, 2020 13:34:41   #
son of witless
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Sweep it under the rug like we have done for four hundred years.


The Blue States have not been around for four hundred years.

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May 31, 2020 13:48:55   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Sweep it under the rug like we have done for four hundred years.


I’m not sweeping anything under the rug, Moldy...
How many more times do you need to watch it to understand what that poor man went through??
Do we really need to foster more H**e and division, what does that solve?
It may be the tactics of the lefts mantra but it doesn’t make it right or any better!!

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May 31, 2020 13:51:34   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
son of witless wrote:
The Blue States have not been around for four hundred years.


Neither has the nation but what difference does it make to some...

243 years old~~

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May 31, 2020 14:10:33   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
lindajoy wrote:
I’m not sweeping anything under the rug, Moldy...
How many more times do you need to watch it to understand what that poor man went through??
Do we really need to foster more H**e and division, what does that solve?
It may be the tactics of the lefts mantra but it doesn’t make it right or any better!!


Unfortunately, r****m and bigotry will always exist. We must do what we can to prevent it from gaining more traction and becoming a mainstream though. All the kids that are not in school right now, because of the C***D shutdown, are seeing the video over and over again and are learning their values from the mainstream media. Can it get any worse than this?

Most of the l**ters don't even know G****e F***d's name, even though the media has reported it over and over.

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May 31, 2020 14:19:09   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
dtucker300 wrote:
Mass resignations and firings in the upper echelons of the department are due. Their leadership has failed the people of Minneapolis.


I lived in Mn., and know the prejudices that were apparent.. B****s lived in their area and w****s in their.. Minneapolis having more, where Saint Paul had a scattered few..

Perhaps you remember the November 2015, where two police officers were involved in the shooting death of a man, 24yrs old, which sparked weeks of protests. Neither was charged...who to blame?? Well now Amy Klobuchar, for example, the Democratic senator who personifies Minnesota declined to charge police officers involved in shootings when she was a prosecutor....Yes, the same being considered as VP with Biden~~

What we really see is frustration with a society and a system that consistently devalues their lives as shown and released with this one act...

Floyd’s death an urgent reminder that here, as across the country, police reform had failed, and that the time has come for something different.

Reform Is Not the Answer, hasn’t worked, isn’t working and shows people have grown intolerant to empty promises of reform when it isn’t followed up on or actually protected in practice!!

Firing the whole lot of them is a good start but how do you fix the real issue which is the prejudicial r****m that brings much of this about to begin with. What reform will change the internal mechanisms of prejudice and r****m? I’ll tell you what doesn’t helps it its constantly reviewing the video that shows that horrific incident in itself!

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May 31, 2020 14:35:55   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
dtucker300 wrote:
Unfortunately, r****m and bigotry will always exist. We must do what we can to prevent it from gaining more traction and becoming a mainstream though. All the kids that are not in school right now, because of the C***D shutdown, are seeing the video over and over again and are learning their values from the mainstream media. Can it get any worse than this?

Most of the l**ters don't even know G****e F***d's name, even though the media has reported it over and over.
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Then in order to do that we need the Republicans and democrats to STOP using it to in fact create the h**e and division!! With the lyen media the greatest abusers they too should be held “accountable” for their incitement of such!! If they bring it. As they do all the time, then let them be held Accountable and responsible for it as well... Million dollar fines they have to pay to the city trashed because of their inflaming lies and false t***hs!!! I know a wish list but One should be considered.

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May 31, 2020 14:43:10   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
lindajoy wrote:
I lived in Mn., and know the prejudices that were apparent.. B****s lived in their area and w****s in their.. Minneapolis having more, where Saint Paul had a scattered few..

Perhaps you remember the November 2015, where two police officers were involved in the shooting death of a man, 24yrs old, which sparked weeks of protests. Neither was charged...who to blame?? Well now Amy Klobuchar, for example, the Democratic senator who personifies Minnesota declined to charge police officers involved in shootings when she was a prosecutor....Yes, the same being considered as VP with Biden~~

What we really see is frustration with a society and a system that consistently devalues their lives as shown and released with this one act...

Floyd’s death an urgent reminder that here, as across the country, police reform had failed, and that the time has come for something different.

Reform Is Not the Answer, hasn’t worked, isn’t working and shows people have grown intolerant to empty promises of reform when it isn’t followed up on or actually protected in practice!!

Firing the whole lot of them is a good start but how do you fix the real issue which is the prejudicial r****m that brings much of this about to begin with. What reform will change the internal mechanisms of prejudice and r****m? I’ll tell you what doesn’t helps it its constantly reviewing the video that shows that horrific incident in itself!
I lived in Mn., and know the prejudices that were ... (show quote)


You are so right. I have many friends in Minnesota. Only one of them still lives in the Twin Cities. I always enjoy visiting the state, but I don't do it so much anymore. It used to be a very liberal and fair-minded place. I believe most of it still is.

I also remember the untrained Somali Police officer who murdered an innocent woman in Minneapolis. He had no business being allowed to carry a gun and badge. One would think the PTB would have received the message loud and clear after the incident you speak of and take appropriate actions.

Unfortunately, r****m will always exist in this world. But it is much less here than in other countries. Especially since we are the most culturally diverse country in history. This experiment can and will work, except for the small percentage who do not want it to work. Yes, our country has a terrible history of discrimination and r****m but it also has always confronted the problem head-on and been willing to air it's dirty laundry in public to try and resolve the issues. This is still the best place in the world to be a minority. Is it Perfect? Far from it, but there is an old saying that America always does the right thing after it has tried everything else. We are not finished trying everything else but we keep getting closer to the ideal standards enshrined in our founding documents. I see no reason to abandon them now. We can never create a perfect utopia! But we can try to become the best people we can be. Those who are not willing to become better people need to find somewhere else to live. Those who are not willing to assimilate to our uniquely American values should not come here in the first place.

God Bless The USA! The last best hope!

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May 31, 2020 16:49:39   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
moldyoldy wrote:
You have to wonder about this.
From raw story.com

G****e F***d and ex-officer Derek Chauvin worked security at the same nightclub
raw story? Check your source, moldy, the site is progressive left, politically biased, and publishes a lot of satire and parodies. Since you provided no link, I had to do some checking.

The implications in the claim that Chauvin and Floyd worked at the same nightclub are many and varied, starting with "they knew each other", followed by "they h**ed each other's guts". From there, we could easily conclude that officer Chauvin saw his chance. This "raw story" has all the ingredients of another conspiracy theory.

However, if there is something even remotely factual in this claim, it is irrelevant to this case.

Seems one hell of a stretch to suggest that, out of the hundreds of 911 calls Minneapolis police respond to each day, this call just happened to conveniently give officer Chauvin a chance to bust the chops of a guy with whom he supposedly already had issues.

In the event, the 911 call that launched this incident shoots that theory all to hell.

I read the transcript of the call. The person who placed the call - believe it was a woman - was obviously confused (maybe scared) and not very well educated. The 911 operator had some difficulty getting good information from her and had to actually prompt the caller to describe the suspect, including his g****r and race. However, the most critical point to this is the caller had no freaking idea who the suspect was. The caller gave no name and the 911 operator didn't ask for one. So, when the cops were dispatched, they had no idea who they would be dealing with.


911 Operator: What’s he look like, what race?

Caller: Um, he’s a tall guy. He’s like tall and bald, about like 6…6 1/2, and she’s not acting right so and she started to go, drive the car.

Operator: Okay so, female or a male?

Caller: Um…

Operator: Is it a girl or a boy?

Caller: (Talking to somebody else)—he’s asking (inaudible) one second. Hello?

Operator: Is it a girl or a boy that did this?

Caller: It is a man.

Operator: Okay. Is he white, black, Native, Hispanic, Asian?

Caller: Something like that.

Operator: Which one? White, black, Native, Hispanic, Asian?

Caller: No, he’s a black guy.


When I read the transcript, I went back to the videos taken from different perspectives - bystander cell phones, surveillance camera, even an officer's body cam - looking for any indication that, upon arrival at the scene, officer Chauvin recognized Floyd and interacted with him on that basis. Wasn't possible to make a determination one way or the other.

In any case, I do not believe in coincidence or speculation or improbabilities that can easily be fashioned into a conspiracy theory.

The Hennepin County attorney filed criminal charges against Derek Chauvin - 3rd degree murder and 2nd degree manslaughter - and the complaint cites the autopsy.

Minnesota law originally defined third-degree murder solely as depraved-heart murder ("without intent to effect the death of any person, causing the death of another by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life").

In 1987, an additional drug-related provision ("without intent to cause death, proximately causing the death of a human being by, directly or indirectly, unlawfully selling, giving away, bartering, delivering, exchanging, distributing, or administering a controlled substance classified in Schedule I or II") was added to the definition of third-degree murder. Up until the early 2000s, prosecutions under that provision were rare, but they began to rise in the 2010s. Some reports linked this increase in prosecutions to the opioid epidemic in the United States.

Minnesota law also defines the crime of third-degree murder of an unborn child, with the same elements of depraved mind and lack of intent to k**l distinguishing it from first- or second-degree murder of an unborn child. Both third-degree murder and third-degree murder of an unborn child are punishable by a maximum of 25 years' imprisonment. One half the max, 12 & 1/2 years, is the most common penalty in Minnesota.


In Minnesota statutes, 2nd degree manslaughter is culpable negligence whereby the person creates an unreasonable risk, and consciously takes chances of causing death or great bodily harm to another. If found guilty, the person may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than ten years or to payment of a fine of not more than $20,000, or both.

BTW: G****e F***d's family has retained forensic pathologist Dr. Michael Baden, former NYC chief medical examiner, to conduct an independent autopsy.

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May 31, 2020 17:24:19   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
raw story? Check your source, moldy, the site is progressive left, politically biased, and publishes a lot of satire and parodies. Since you provided no link, I had to do some checking.

The implications in the claim that Chauvin and Floyd worked at the same nightclub are many and varied, starting with "they knew each other", followed by "they h**ed each other's guts". From there, we could easily conclude that officer Chauvin saw his chance. This "raw story" has all the ingredients of another conspiracy theory.

However, if there is something even remotely factual in this claim, it is irrelevant to this case.

Seems one hell of a stretch to suggest that, out of the hundreds of 911 calls Minneapolis police respond to each day, this call just happened to conveniently give officer Chauvin a chance to bust the chops of a guy with whom he supposedly already had issues.

In the event, the 911 call that launched this incident shoots that theory all to hell.

I read the transcript of the call. The person who placed the call - believe it was a woman - was obviously confused (maybe scared) and not very well educated. The 911 operator had some difficulty getting good information from her and had to actually prompt the caller to describe the suspect, including his g****r and race. However, the most critical point to this is the caller had no freaking idea who the suspect was. The caller gave no name and the 911 operator didn't ask for one. So, when the cops were dispatched, they had no idea who they would be dealing with.


911 Operator: What’s he look like, what race?

Caller: Um, he’s a tall guy. He’s like tall and bald, about like 6…6 1/2, and she’s not acting right so and she started to go, drive the car.

Operator: Okay so, female or a male?

Caller: Um…

Operator: Is it a girl or a boy?

Caller: (Talking to somebody else)—he’s asking (inaudible) one second. Hello?

Operator: Is it a girl or a boy that did this?

Caller: It is a man.

Operator: Okay. Is he white, black, Native, Hispanic, Asian?

Caller: Something like that.

Operator: Which one? White, black, Native, Hispanic, Asian?

Caller: No, he’s a black guy.


When I read the transcript, I went back to the videos taken from different perspectives - bystander cell phones, surveillance camera, even an officer's body cam - looking for any indication that, upon arrival at the scene, officer Chauvin recognized Floyd and interacted with him on that basis. Wasn't possible to make a determination one way or the other.

In any case, I do not believe in coincidence or speculation or improbabilities that can easily be fashioned into a conspiracy theory.

The Hennepin County attorney filed criminal charges against Derek Chauvin - 3rd degree murder and 2nd degree manslaughter - and the complaint cites the autopsy.

Minnesota law originally defined third-degree murder solely as depraved-heart murder ("without intent to effect the death of any person, causing the death of another by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life").

In 1987, an additional drug-related provision ("without intent to cause death, proximately causing the death of a human being by, directly or indirectly, unlawfully selling, giving away, bartering, delivering, exchanging, distributing, or administering a controlled substance classified in Schedule I or II") was added to the definition of third-degree murder. Up until the early 2000s, prosecutions under that provision were rare, but they began to rise in the 2010s. Some reports linked this increase in prosecutions to the opioid epidemic in the United States.

Minnesota law also defines the crime of third-degree murder of an unborn child, with the same elements of depraved mind and lack of intent to k**l distinguishing it from first- or second-degree murder of an unborn child. Both third-degree murder and third-degree murder of an unborn child are punishable by a maximum of 25 years' imprisonment. One half the max, 12 & 1/2 years, is the most common penalty in Minnesota.


In Minnesota statutes, 2nd degree manslaughter is culpable negligence whereby the person creates an unreasonable risk, and consciously takes chances of causing death or great bodily harm to another. If found guilty, the person may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than ten years or to payment of a fine of not more than $20,000, or both.

BTW: G****e F***d's family has retained forensic pathologist Dr. Michael Baden, former NYC chief medical examiner, to conduct an independent autopsy.
raw story? Check your source, moldy, the site is p... (show quote)


It's always good to hear your voice of reason since it is best to wait for the facts to emerge less we resort to a lynch mob of vigilantes. So much misinformation is being spread about this horrific event. Much of the information promulgated is questionable. I remember someone on OPP saying Officer Chauvinist had his hands in his pockets while his knee was on G****e F***d's neck. From what I saw, officer Chauvin had dark or black gloves on and did not have his hands in his pockets. No police officer, even if he was completely out of his mind, would do this unless he had a death wish. Most people are not trained to look at a video objectively. Even eyewitness details vary greatly from one individual to another who witness the same event.

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May 31, 2020 17:43:07   #
SGM B Loc: TEXAS but live in Alabama now
 
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May 31, 2020 20:32:03   #
son of witless
 
lindajoy wrote:
Neither has the nation but what difference does it make to some...

243 years old~~


Moldy as I infer his meaning, is making the point that this police k*****g is part of an ongoing 400 year pattern

that America and all W***e A******ns are guilty of. As such all W***e A******ns need to do penance by

renouncing their freedoms and kissing the butts of the Democratic Party and all of it's clients.

My answer to that is nutz. The cop who k**led this man is responsible. The other officers with him bear

responsibility for not stopping him. His direct supervisors bear responsibility for their lack of proper training

and also their lack of supervision of all of these officers who were present. The Mayor bears responsibility for

the lack of proper training of his entire police department on how not to k**l a suspect who is under custody

and restrained.

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May 31, 2020 20:48:23   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
son of witless wrote:
Moldy as I infer his meaning, is making the point that this police k*****g is part of an ongoing 400 year pattern

that America and all W***e A******ns are guilty of. As such all W***e A******ns need to do penance by

renouncing their freedoms and kissing the butts of the Democratic Party and all of it's clients.

My answer to that is nutz. The cop who k**led this man is responsible. The other officers with him bear

responsibility for not stopping him. His direct supervisors bear responsibility for their lack of proper training

and also their lack of supervision of all of these officers who were present. The Mayor bears responsibility for

the lack of proper training of his entire police department on how not to k**l a suspect who is under custody

and restrained.
Moldy as I infer his meaning, is making the point ... (show quote)


I know what he was doing, it just goes without merit that’s all, stir the pot, exaggerate and let it fly hoping it’ll stick to someone...

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