Iliamna1

I DID see the video. I'm about as conservative and white as anyone here on OPP is and I will say this! You deserve a rebuke about what you posted. Much of what you said is a bald-faced lie! Multiple observers at the scene said he DID NOT resist arrest. His hands were cuffed and after sitting on the sidewalk curb, the officer put his knee on his neck ( the man SHOULD have been put in the back seat of the officer's car). He kept saying he couldn't breathe. NONE of the officers came to his aid. One officer murdered that man and the other three are accomplices.. They all need to be behind bars. PERIOD Until they've had a fair trial and then been condemned to a long stint behind bars The video alone is damning enough.. It was sickening, truly sickening

Larry Joe

The officers totally overreact and a man died needlessly. The officers were immediately fired and will now face the Justice system. What more should be done? No, in this country we do not turn them over for mob justice. At least not yet.
Larry Joe

Larry Joe

Do you think maybe we should put them on trial first? Or are our actions to be just as wrong as the officers?
Larry Joe

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

A trial is lawfully necessary, but the video is real and conclusive.

The cops were fired. That should be a clue as to where the city of Minneapolis sees the facts.

Did you even watch the video?

The cop who actually murdered Floyd knew he was unresponsive.

And he still wouldn't let up his choking the man.

EmilyD

What is really bizarre about this video is that one of the cops keeps telling the man to "get up and get in the car" over and over, and the man says "I will" - but he couldn't because the cop still kept his knee on him.

The only thing I can think of is that they wanted the man to try to get up to get in the car so they could say he was resisting them, and beat him up or something. Otherwise, it's clear the other cops had no idea what was happening with the cop who had his knee on the man's neck.

Hear this near the 1.06 mark....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUAfdtdzAto&bpctr=1590695158

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

The social media tech companies on the internet need some strict guidelines that declare themselves either as public utilities for the freeflow of information that are open to every person to express free speech or, are they simply a news media with editors who get to decide what is and isn't a neutral point of view? They can't have it both ways.

As for the video, we don't see the run-up to what happened, so it does not show everything. Less than a minute into the video a spectator begins haranguing the police. The people off camera join in and continue to taunt. By doing so they are encouraging and empowering the perp to continue to struggle so as to be some kind of a martyr against police brutality, while at the same time the officers dig in their heels to resist. As long as Lloyd struggles and says he can't breathe, he can breathe. If he is tensing-up it makes it harder to breathe.

The officer's knee on the neck very likely cut off the circulation of the carotid artery and made him pass out. The more the public tries to harangue the police in public, the more resistant the police will be to relent. The spectators share some of the blame, as does Lloyd. Nevertheless, It was the police who stupidly and tragically overreacted. They are trained to take control of the situation. However, taking control does not justify their overreaction, and for this most of the blame lies with the police.

I don't know what was going through the minds of the officers restraining George Lloyd. Perhaps the gathering crown caused them to continue restraining George Lloyd for fear of an escalating situation on their hands where the perp might try to incite spectators to start fighting with officers on the scene. Words can sometimes be as inciting as actions. Regardless of what Lloyd did, he deserved his life to be protected and not to be treated this way by police who set themselves up as Judge, Jury, and Executioner. Their actions were unconscionable and should definitely be prosecuted for civil rights violations and possibly murder under the color of authority. The Asian officer should have insisted that the other officers stop when it became obvious that Lloyd was unresponsive. In fact, he should have intervened sooner. Because he did not he is equally culpable in George Lloyd's death.

One more thing. A person died unnecessarily. His name was George Lloyd. He was not just another Black person who committed a crime, but a human being that deserves dignity as such. We should remember his name. You can bet the Police officers involved will never forget, nor should they. They should be investigated and if evidence indicates they committed a crime they should be brought to justice in a court of law. It sure looks that way to me. Our society should settle for nothing less.

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

I have to think that if we could see the unlawful use of force, the othe cops there, could see the same.

EmilyD

What happened? I can still view the video. The first black screen showed me that viewing might be offensive and I had to click "I understand and wish to proceed" before the video ran.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Only a murder that is willful and premeditated with malice aforethought is 1st degree.

A 2nd degree murder is any intentional murder with malice aforethought, but is not premeditated or planned in advance. This charge may fit the bill if such a thing can be proven.

Voluntary manslaughter, sometimes called a crime of passion, is any intentional k*****g that involves no prior intent to k**l, and which was committed under such circumstances that would "cause a reasonable person to become emotionally or mentally disturbed". Both this and second-degree murder are committed on the spot under a spur-of-the-moment choice, but the two differ in the magnitude of the circumstances surrounding the crime.

Involuntary manslaughter is a k*****g that stems from a lack of intention to cause death but involving an intentional or negligent act leading to death.

The cop in question was skating on thin ice when he did this. He is a 19 year veteran with at least a dozen police conduct complaints that resulted in no disciplinary action and one that led to a letter of reprimand. I wonder how he managed to get a pass so many times. After a dozen complaints against him, what damned fool could not see that officer Chauvin was primed for crossing line.

If the investigation and prosecution of this cop were left in the hands of Minneapolis authorities, or even the Minnesota justice system, I'd bet he'd get a slap on the wrist, or charged with involuntary manslaughter. But since the FBI is now involved, the dozen or so conduct complaints against him will undoubtedly influence the outcome and he could be charged with 2nd degree. 1st degree murder is out of the question.

Interesting to note that discombobulated l*****ts have tweeted and posted on facebook that officer Chauvin was standing on stage at a Trump rally in Minneapolis last October. Dozens of Minneapolis police officers were there wearing "Cops for Trump" T-shirts, and the officer misidentified as Derek Chauvin was actually Mike Gallagher, president of the police union in Bloomington, Minnesota. But that doesn't matter, the "get Trump" campaign rolls on. The tweets and facebook posts have gone v***l.

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

It's not the cops saying this. It is a spectator standing off-camera telling him to not resist so the police can put him in the car. But he was still resisting by struggling. This doesn't justify the actions of the officers involved.

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

"Interesting to note that discombobulated l*****ts have tweeted and posted on facebook that officer Chauvin was standing on stage at a Trump rally in Minneapolis last October. Dozens of Minneapolis police officers were there wearing "Cops for Trump" T-shirts, and the officer misidentified as Derek Chauvin was actually Mike Gallagher, president of the police union in Bloomington, Minnesota. But that doesn't matter, the "get Trump" campaign rolls on."

1ProudAmerican

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

Thanks for the clarification.

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

It appeared to me that he was struggling to breath.

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

Okay.