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May 30, 2020 17:28:44   #
Cuda2020
 
Seth wrote:
No, he caters to Americans who love America. I'm sorry if that doesn't apply to everyone in this country.


Ya know my daughter used to believe in unicorns, then she grew up, but I would not attempt to prove to her otherwise, I'll do the same for you.

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May 30, 2020 17:36:05   #
Seth
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Ya know my daughter used to believe in unicorns, then she grew up, but I would not attempt to prove to her otherwise, I'll do the same for you.


So it's your position that loving America and believing in our Constitutional republic is comparable to believing in unicorns, then. Typical for an avid Marxist, I suppose.

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May 30, 2020 17:59:50   #
Cuda2020
 
Seth wrote:
So it's your position that loving America and believing in our Constitutional republic is comparable to believing in unicorns, then. Typical for an avid Marxist, I suppose.


Try and get a brain, yep that's it, we, more than half of Americans are Marxist, c*******t, socialists, Leninists, f*****ts, or anything other insulting things you can cook up in that pinhead of yours. I do not define people who h**e Americans as the right does, as America loving patriots who value our constitution, when all they do is tread over it, constantly trying to suppress and conform its people.

Trump is the epitome of the very g*******ts your side so fears and you so far up his butt who don't see him about to dump all over you.

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May 30, 2020 18:27:21   #
frogdog
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Some of what you say is true, but I'm still glad they are there, right now it's in title head only. Buddy that's not what Trump is doing. When you put an iol lobbyist in to head the EPA, that's not what you are doing, rather you're kowtowing to saving oil companies and other industries money for yet more profit, as if they don't gift enough to themselves.

Part of developing anything, has to include the waste that is produced by it, do you agree at least on that? For example, if you were to frack and corrupt a vein of underground water,(which is nw unprotected under Trump's new water act bill) which then gets into a private citizen's water supply, you are the one responsible, correct? We now have seen people run their tap water and have been able to set it on fire. Now what is happening, and I can testify to, is that the little guy hasn't enough power to fight this big guy who did the damage, and the family is now left to even bring up the case due to the fact in some states like mine, have simply concluded you can't have a case with cancer because too many things can now cause cancer to be able to point to one, and there it is, no defense, and they(the companies), literally save money, make more profit and literally get away with murder, that's what's been happening, buddy. We need a working... and efficient, EPA.
Some of what you say is true, but I'm still glad t... (show quote)


Hey there, fellow Mopar man, the EPA has been around for a long time and fracking did not just start ruining peoples water. The EPA was created to deal with the big businesses and their abuse of the air, water and the land. They did a fantastic job, and yes we still do need someone to watch out for the, as you said, little guy.

That is where my dislike for today's EPA begins, and ends. They do very little to the biggest polluters anymore. The EPA of today is a bloated bureaucracy and picks on the "Little guy," that cannot afford to fight back against the wrongs, in some cases, from such governmental power. This has been going on since long before Trump.
Having once owned land that I paid for and payed taxes on, I learned first hand how far the EPA can and will go to enforce a law, or rule, or wh**ever they enforce, that is completely out dated and was NEVER intended to be used against the "Little guy."

But, because they are so overfunded and over staffed, The EPA has to justify their existence by messing where they were never meant to mess. That did not start with Trump.

Just so you will know, my research leads me to believe that the cement used to sleeve fracking wells had a history of failure. In the past few years (I do not know exactly how many years) fracking companies have been striving to correct the problems of methane and other pollutants getting into the water tables. Probably the result of EPA pressure. Good. That is what they were intended to do. Still friends?

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May 30, 2020 18:43:46   #
Seth
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
Try and get a brain, yep that's it, we, more than half of Americans are Marxist, c*******t, socialists, Leninists, f*****ts, or anything other insulting things you can cook up in that pinhead of yours. I do not define people who h**e Americans as the right does, as America loving patriots who value our constitution, when all they do is tread over it, constantly trying to suppress and conform its people.

Trump is the epitome of the very g*******ts your side so fears and you so far up his butt who don't see him about to dump all over you.
Try and get a brain, yep that's it, we, more than ... (show quote)


I don't aim to insult, I merely call things as I see them. I'm not the one who essentially referred to patriotism as a "unicornian" enterprise.

That said, Trump made his America First attitude clear since decades before he ever thought about running for president, and he's demonstrated it just as clearly since taking office by virtue of his trade and other foreign policies, speeches he's made to the EU/NATO countries and his completely nationalist point of view.

The Trump Effect® has also manifest itself in several other countries including European nations as, having seen what he is doing in America, their leaders have grown stronger in their own nationalist policies, up to and including bucking the collective idiocies of the EU.

Both Bushes, Clinton and Obama were g*******ts -- hell, B. Hussein Obama's rise from local hack in Chicago to POTUS was largely mentored and financed under the auspices of real live bogey man George Soros, as are a large number of the l*****t venues in America, all of which represent a first step toward a global socialist world.

It's obviously totally lost on your ilk (unless it's not and you approve) that so many longtime Democrat politicians have mysteriously become really rich while in office. This promises to be their end game: like in most C*******t environments, these elitists will live lavishly while everyone else lives according to how these elite decide they will live and possessing wh**ever rights these same elites deign for them to possess.

That's the kind of world your ilk wants us to endure, and don't even realize it because you don't have the grey matter needed to indulge in the critical thinking it takes to figure out how certain things set precedents that lead to certain other, inevitable results.

Rather than d**g the rest of us down with you, perhaps it would behoove you to relocate to a more suitable location, like maybe China, Zimbabwe, Venezuela or Cuba -- that's it, Cuba! They have free healthcare and free literacy classes, wedged right in there between the political prisoner gulags. Cuba, by gum!

If you book now, you can probably travel there in an only once used tire tube...

-- "By gum!"

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May 30, 2020 19:01:38   #
frogdog
 
Seth wrote:
I don't aim to insult, I merely call things as I see them. I'm not the one who essentially referred to patriotism as a "unicornian" enterprise.

That said, Trump made his America First attitude clear since decades before he ever thought about running for president, and he's demonstrated it just as clearly since taking office by virtue of his trade and other foreign policies, speeches he's made to the EU/NATO countries and his completely nationalist point of view.

The Trump Effect® has also manifest itself in several other countries including European nations as, having seen what he is doing in America, their leaders have grown stronger in their own nationalist policies, up to and including bucking the collective idiocies of the EU.

Both Bushes, Clinton and Obama were g*******ts -- hell, B. Hussein Obama's rise from local hack in Chicago to POTUS was largely mentored and financed under the auspices of real live bogey man George Soros, as are a large number of the l*****t venues in America, all of which represent a first step toward a global socialist world.

It's obviously totally lost on your ilk (unless it's not and you approve) that so many longtime Democrat politicians have mysteriously become really rich while in office. This promises to be their end game: like in most C*******t environments, these elitists will live lavishly while everyone else lives according to how these elite decide they will live and possessing wh**ever rights these same elites deign for them to possess.

That's the kind of world your ilk wants us to endure, and don't even realize it because you don't have the grey matter needed to indulge in the critical thinking it takes to figure out how certain things set precedents that lead to certain other, inevitable results.

Rather than d**g the rest of us down with you, perhaps it would behoove you to relocate to a more suitable location, like maybe China, Zimbabwe, Venezuela or Cuba -- that's it, Cuba! They have free healthcare and free literacy classes, wedged right in there between the political prisoner gulags. Cuba, by gum!

If you book now, you can probably travel there in an only once used tire tube...

-- "By gum!"
I don't aim to insult, I merely call things as I s... (show quote)


By gum, jolly good idea. Or, think about this now, maybe, just maybe, we could go to Cuba and kick out the c*******t government and start our own country there. I hear the weather is great, and there are plenty of antique cars and trucks to drive. We will be selective about who we let in and deport anyone we do not like.

Sounds like a plan to me, because the othersiders are going to totally ruin what is left of this country.

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May 30, 2020 20:16:42   #
Seth
 
frogdog wrote:
By gum, jolly good idea. Or, think about this now, maybe, just maybe, we could go to Cuba and kick out the c*******t government and start our own country there. I hear the weather is great, and there are plenty of antique cars and trucks to drive. We will be selective about who we let in and deport anyone we do not like.

Sounds like a plan to me, because the othersiders are going to totally ruin what is left of this country.


Cuba is a beautiful island, a favorite vacation place for people from countries that aren't in on the embargo.

Been to GITMO for REFTRA back in the 1970s, lived in P. R. for a year in the early 1980s, same climate, excellent year round...

A l*****t free Cuba would be great to live in, populated and run by conservatives, no visas granted to anyone who v**es (D). After we invade and take over, we send all the C*******ts to the states to be with their Democrat bosom buddies.

That would work.

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May 30, 2020 21:24:01   #
frogdog
 
Seth wrote:
Cuba is a beautiful island, a favorite vacation place for people from countries that aren't in on the embargo.

Been to GITMO for REFTRA back in the 1970s, lived in P. R. for a year in the early 1980s, same climate, excellent year round...

A l*****t free Cuba would be great to live in, populated and run by conservatives, no visas granted to anyone who v**es (D). After we invade and take over, we send all the C*******ts to the states to be with their Democrat bosom buddies.

That would work.
Cuba is a beautiful island, a favorite vacation pl... (show quote)


That would definitely work. I nice small island surrounded by beautiful water and a population of like-minded people. What would there be not to like. We could even have real news rather than f**e news. No overpopulated government agencies. No professional politicians, and on and on and...

We could take over on the fourth of July. How fun!!!

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May 30, 2020 21:32:35   #
Seth
 
frogdog wrote:
That would definitely work. I nice small island surrounded by beautiful water and a population of like-minded people. What would there be not to like. We could even have real news rather than f**e news. No overpopulated government agencies. No professional politicians, and on and on and...

We could take over on the fourth of July. How fun!!!


I'm ready to go!

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May 30, 2020 21:33:18   #
Kickaha Loc: Nebraska
 
frogdog wrote:
That would definitely work. I nice small island surrounded by beautiful water and a population of like-minded people. What would there be not to like. We could even have real news rather than f**e news. No overpopulated government agencies. No professional politicians, and on and on and...

We could take over on the fourth of July. How fun!!!


I don't relish the idea of conquering a sovereign nation to establish a free country. How much do you think it would take to buy Cuba? We just pay off the Cuban government to leave and we take over. No bloodshed or violence, just capitalism at its finest.

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May 30, 2020 21:39:09   #
Seth
 
Kickaha wrote:
I don't relish the idea of conquering a sovereign nation to establish a free country. How much do you think it would take to buy Cuba? We just pay off the Cuban government to leave and we take over. No bloodshed or violence, just capitalism at its finest.


Well... The government there may be C*******t, but the mentality of its officials and soldiers is banana republic, so no doubt most government folks below Castro level probably have price tags...

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May 30, 2020 21:59:14   #
frogdog
 
Kickaha wrote:
I don't relish the idea of conquering a sovereign nation to establish a free country. How much do you think it would take to buy Cuba? We just pay off the Cuban government to leave and we take over. No bloodshed or violence, just capitalism at its finest.


I was doing my best to imagine that the Cuban government would just come and take our place here. No violence, no blood shed. I guess that would be too much to ask. But everything else sounds really nice.

My wife has always told me that I am just a "pipe dreamer." I love dreams. My wife is never wrong!!!

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May 31, 2020 16:52:33   #
Wolfman888
 
Seth wrote:
It's quite impressive to me that you are so technologically advanced that you are able to communicate so clearly from all the way out there in that alternate reality.


I can always count on you, Seth, for a great response.

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May 31, 2020 17:25:32   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Wolfman888 wrote:
I can always count on you, Seth, for a great response.


He does have some good ones.

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May 31, 2020 17:30:26   #
Seth
 
Wolfman888 wrote:
I can always count on you, Seth, for a great response.


Thank you!

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