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May 1, 2013 18:44:20   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
I really fear this crap if it is true and is happening inside our Pentagon. There are people, one named Weinstein, who are being invited into the Pentagon to help work out policies to use against any kind of Christian of Jewish people who make any attempt to share their faith with others. I believe that this pertains to chaplains, also. Read this paragraph and see if you want to read about the man who it is written about.

Weinstein goes on:
If these fundamentalist Christian monsters of human degradation … and tyranny cannot broker or barter your acceptance of their putrid theology, then they crave for your universal silence in the face of their rapacious reign of theocratic terror. Indeed, they ceaselessly lust, ache, and pine for you to do absolutely nothing to thwart their oppression. Comply, my friends, and you become as monstrously savage as are they. I beg you, do not feed these hideous monsters with your stoic lethargy, callousness and neutrality. Do not lubricate the path of their r****m, bigotry, and prejudice. Doing so directly threatens the national security of our beautiful nation.

I get a bit sick every time I read these words and think that this man is going to help write policy concerning the behavior of our military people. Who is the extremist and bigot here?


http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/04/28/Pentagon-Consults-Extremist-Who-Calls-Christians-Monsters-and-Enemies-of-the-Constitution-to-Develop-Religious-Tolerance-Policy

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May 1, 2013 21:44:47   #
Augustus Greatorex Loc: NE
 
What are some other variants of Christians besides conservative and fundamentalist?

I was asked today, if I have ever noticed that atheists support Islam? Did you notice the reference to "islamaphobe"? Particularly, who said it and in reference to what?

I had observed, but never really noted it as significant. The person who asked me the question was asserting that both Muslims and Atheists directly oppose Jews and Christians. The thought was perhaps Atheists think of Muslims as compatriots against Jews and Christians.

I thought that was very funny because Atheists can't be that naive.

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May 1, 2013 22:18:00   #
ABBAsFernando Loc: Ohio
 
oldroy wrote:
I really fear this crap if it is true and is happening inside our Pentagon. There are people, one named Weinstein, who are being invited into the Pentagon to help work out policies to use against any kind of Christian of Jewish people who make any attempt to share their faith with others. I believe that this pertains to chaplains, also. Read this paragraph and see if you want to read about the man who it is written about.

Weinstein goes on:
If these fundamentalist Christian monsters of human degradation … and tyranny cannot broker or barter your acceptance of their putrid theology, then they crave for your universal silence in the face of their rapacious reign of theocratic terror. Indeed, they ceaselessly lust, ache, and pine for you to do absolutely nothing to thwart their oppression. Comply, my friends, and you become as monstrously savage as are they. I beg you, do not feed these hideous monsters with your stoic lethargy, callousness and neutrality. Do not lubricate the path of their r****m, bigotry, and prejudice. Doing so directly threatens the national security of our beautiful nation.

I get a bit sick every time I read these words and think that this man is going to help write policy concerning the behavior of our military people. Who is the extremist and bigot here?


http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/04/28/Pentagon-Consults-Extremist-Who-Calls-Christians-Monsters-and-Enemies-of-the-Constitution-to-Develop-Religious-Tolerance-Policy
I really fear this crap if it is true and is happe... (show quote)


America was founded upon Christian Morality. This is a Historical FACT. Sophistic argumentation can never alter the T***H. It does however fool the gullible and low information individual.

CLEARLY the T*****RS are the ones attacking Christians.



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May 1, 2013 22:25:51   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Augustus Greatorex wrote:
What are some other variants of Christians besides conservative and fundamentalist?

I was asked today, if I have ever noticed that atheists support Islam? Did you notice the reference to "islamaphobe"? Particularly, who said it and in reference to what?

I had observed, but never really noted it as significant. The person who asked me the question was asserting that both Muslims and Atheists directly oppose Jews and Christians. The thought was perhaps Atheists think of Muslims as compatriots against Jews and Christians.

I thought that was very funny because Atheists can't be that naive.
What are some other variants of Christians besides... (show quote)


I have seen all kinds of left leaning people siding with Muslims and I am sure that some of them were atheists. Now lets give some thought to this idea of mine. Libs think they can side with Muslims and eventually destroy what we have now and then the Muslims will allow them to establish a government that goes with Muslims in many ways. Those libs just aren't smart enough to see that Muslims won't do their work for them and then turn this country over to them. The Muslims tend to cut off heads of
Christians and I think they would come out ahead in that they don't mind k*****g non-believers.

Anyway, I was reading on an atheist blog a bit ago and he mentioned what Mikey Weinstein said on Huffington Post so I ran right over there and came up with this little nugget written by Weinstein.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-l-weinstein/fundamentalist-christian-_b_3072651.html

The best part of that whole thing is that the atheist said that sure as hell the Pentagon didn't hire Weinstein and he called Mikey and found that he had not been hired but had been called in for some of his outstanding name calling information. Now what are they trying to do?

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May 1, 2013 22:42:54   #
ABBAsFernando Loc: Ohio
 
oldroy wrote:
I have seen all kinds of left leaning people siding with Muslims and I am sure that some of them were atheists. Now lets give some thought to this idea of mine. Libs think they can side with Muslims and eventually destroy what we have now and then the Muslims will allow them to establish a government that goes with Muslims in many ways. Those libs just aren't smart enough to see that Muslims won't do their work for them and then turn this country over to them. The Muslims tend to cut off heads of
Christians and I think they would come out ahead in that they don't mind k*****g non-believers.

Anyway, I was reading on an atheist blog a bit ago and he mentioned what Mikey Weinstein said on Huffington Post so I ran right over there and came up with this little nugget written by Weinstein.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-l-weinstein/fundamentalist-christian-_b_3072651.html

The best part of that whole thing is that the atheist said that sure as hell the Pentagon didn't hire Weinstein and he called Mikey and found that he had not been hired but had been called in for some of his outstanding name calling information. Now what are they trying to do?
I have seen all kinds of left leaning people sidin... (show quote)


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May 1, 2013 22:57:44   #
Augustus Greatorex Loc: NE
 
oldroy wrote:
I have seen all kinds of left leaning people siding with Muslims and I am sure that some of them were atheists. Now lets give some thought to this idea of mine. Libs think they can side with Muslims and eventually destroy what we have now and then the Muslims will allow them to establish a government that goes with Muslims in many ways. Those libs just aren't smart enough to see that Muslims won't do their work for them and then turn this country over to them. The Muslims tend to cut off heads of
Christians and I think they would come out ahead in that they don't mind k*****g non-believers.

Anyway, I was reading on an atheist blog a bit ago and he mentioned what Mikey Weinstein said on Huffington Post so I ran right over there and came up with this little nugget written by Weinstein.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-l-weinstein/fundamentalist-christian-_b_3072651.html

The best part of that whole thing is that the atheist said that sure as hell the Pentagon didn't hire Weinstein and he called Mikey and found that he had not been hired but had been called in for some of his outstanding name calling information. Now what are they trying to do?
I have seen all kinds of left leaning people sidin... (show quote)


What I cannot conceptualize is the "people of no faith." It is an absurdity and patently false. This their indoctrination of us always making that there are people with no faith. They repeat it as mantra hoping we will come to a faith that there are those people out there with no faith.

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May 2, 2013 08:26:40   #
Aimleft
 
What garbage from all of you so-called "Christians." This nation was NOT founded on Christian ideology,but rather, in part, to escape the persecution of religious zealotry from the Church of England. And as far as saying Libs "side" with Islam - your idiocy in making those statements just shows you are not worth any more of my time. Small minds apparently cannot comprehend the idea of seeking knowledge and acceptance of other religious views, rather than making assumptions based on pure stupidity, xenophobia, and "christian" hatred. If you can only see Islam as a terrorist religion, then understand why many others see Christianity in the same light. I at least enjoy knowing that many who profess so loudly to be those poooooor, persecuted Christians are royally full of it and deserve nothing but the rancor they work so hard to receive.

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May 2, 2013 08:33:13   #
MasterAdrian Loc: Amsterdam, NL
 
I think if it is true that he said what is written there, the man is a terrorist himself.... an anti-religion terrorist!

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May 2, 2013 09:59:27   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
Aimleft wrote:
What garbage from all of you so-called "Christians." This nation was NOT founded on Christian ideology,but rather, in part, to escape the persecution of religious zealotry from the Church of England. And as far as saying Libs "side" with Islam - your idiocy in making those statements just shows you are not worth any more of my time. Small minds apparently cannot comprehend the idea of seeking knowledge and acceptance of other religious views, rather than making assumptions based on pure stupidity, xenophobia, and "christian" hatred. If you can only see Islam as a terrorist religion, then understand why many others see Christianity in the same light. I at least enjoy knowing that many who profess so loudly to be those poooooor, persecuted Christians are royally full of it and deserve nothing but the rancor they work so hard to receive.
What garbage from all of you so-called "Chris... (show quote)

Caveat #1. I am not a Christian.
Caveat #2. I am not an atheist nor an agnostic.
Caveat #3. I am not a member of ANY organized religion
Caveat #4. I believe in a Supreme Being, whom I call God because NOT to believe in such defies all logic that I can imagine and is hubris that I do not possess

That said, I find your comments shallow and unprovable. The term "so-called Christians" is silly. People are either Christians or they are not, and some who are NOT Christians CALL themselves Christians - that is not the fault of the religion, but of the individual, yet you use that individual to taint true Christians, and I take exception to that implication. The opposite could then be said that all atheists are bad, which is also patently UNTRUE.

Christianity does indeed have a questionable past, not because of the religion, but because of bad people who hijacked the religion and did unChristian things. Once the world became civilized, Christianity civilized its people to the best extent it could. Unfortunately, not ALL religions did that. Islam has always, is, and will always be a violent and heartless religion, and it bends my mind to even say the words "heartless religion". Christianity never has, to the best of my knowledge, EVER advocated K*****G all who are NOT Christian. Islamic religion DOES ADVOCATE K*****G all who are NOT of the Islamic faith. One cannot logically impose moral equivalency on the two faiths. One is barbaric TODAY and the other is NOT barbaric TODAY.

"If you can only see Islam as a terrorist religion, then understand why many others see Christianity in the same light. " This is one of the most stupid comments within your dissertation. Any religion that teaches that if an infidel cannot be turned to become Islamic, he is to be k**led, cannot possibly be compared morally with religion which preaches love, NOT torture, death, and carnage as does Islam. ANY "Christian church" that calls for death of innocent people is NOT CHRISTIAN, and no real Christian will defend it.

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May 2, 2013 10:03:12   #
Navysnipe Loc: Old West
 
Aimleft wrote:
What garbage from all of you so-called "Christians." This nation was NOT founded on Christian ideology,but rather, in part, to escape the persecution of religious zealotry from the Church of England. And as far as saying Libs "side" with Islam - your idiocy in making those statements just shows you are not worth any more of my time. Small minds apparently cannot comprehend the idea of seeking knowledge and acceptance of other religious views, rather than making assumptions based on pure stupidity, xenophobia, and "christian" hatred. If you can only see Islam as a terrorist religion, then understand why many others see Christianity in the same light. I at least enjoy knowing that many who profess so loudly to be those poooooor, persecuted Christians are royally full of it and deserve nothing but the rancor they work so hard to receive.
What garbage from all of you so-called "Chris... (show quote)


The best part of your statement is that we are not worthy of any more of your time. Thank God.

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May 2, 2013 10:25:05   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
Aimleft wrote:
What garbage from all of you so-called "Christians." This nation was NOT founded on Christian ideology,but rather, in part, to escape the persecution of religious zealotry from the Church of England. And as far as saying Libs "side" with Islam - your idiocy in making those statements just shows you are not worth any more of my time. Small minds apparently cannot comprehend the idea of seeking knowledge and acceptance of other religious views, rather than making assumptions based on pure stupidity, xenophobia, and "christian" hatred. If you can only see Islam as a terrorist religion, then understand why many others see Christianity in the same light. I at least enjoy knowing that many who profess so loudly to be those poooooor, persecuted Christians are royally full of it and deserve nothing but the rancor they work so hard to receive.
What garbage from all of you so-called "Chris... (show quote)

Just a simple question: exactly how do YOU view Islam? As a peaceful religion or as a heartless religion? Or ?

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May 2, 2013 10:40:08   #
scorpio
 
Worry not.When Christians refuse to join the military perhaps we can rely on the gay community to save our nation.

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May 2, 2013 10:55:20   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
Navysnipe wrote:
The best part of your statement is that we are not worthy of any more of your time. Thank God.

Truer words were never spoken!

So, so true!
So, so true!...

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May 2, 2013 11:19:14   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Tasine wrote:
Just a simple question: exactly how do YOU view Islam? As a peaceful religion or as a heartless religion? Or ?


Aimleft admitted that he didn't have time to deal with anybody who is not un-Christian like him/her self so I doubt you will get any kind of answer.

I am sure that Aimleft hasn't seen any of the results of the latest Pew poll concerning Muslims and how they believe. For instance, in the Mid-East countries over half of the respondents believed in stoning to death for people who committee adultery and converted to any other religious belief. Yes, those people are very unwarlike in how they think crime should be dealt with. Maybe stoning is not as evil as 30 years in prison with good healthcare, plenty of food, free tv, a bed and all the other amenities of Christian prisons.

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May 2, 2013 11:35:12   #
Tasine Loc: Southwest US
 
oldroy wrote:
Aimleft admitted that he didn't have time to deal with anybody who is not un-Christian like him/her self so I doubt you will get any kind of answer.

I am sure that Aimleft hasn't seen any of the results of the latest Pew poll concerning Muslims and how they believe. For instance, in the Mid-East countries over half of the respondents believed in stoning to death for people who committee adultery and converted to any other religious belief. Yes, those people are very unwarlike in how they think crime should be dealt with. Maybe stoning is not as evil as 30 years in prison with good healthcare, plenty of food, free tv, a bed and all the other amenities of Christian prisons.
Aimleft admitted that he didn't have time to deal ... (show quote)


True, but I told him I am not a Christian, not an atheist, not an agnostic, but that I do believe in God. How could he h**e me? I am nothing. LOL :roll:

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