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May 22, 2020 13:06:57   #
Songline Loc: NYC
 
permafrost wrote:
Have you seen your Dr. recently???

Hurry, may still have time, but it is running out in a rush..

Your lack of normal reactions can lead to some serious problem for you..

Hope is with you for now..

Keep ranting about the orange men. Your derangement is t***sparent

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May 22, 2020 13:09:19   #
Lonewolf
 
byronglimish wrote:
You claimed that the President stole it...like I said, prove it.


It's up to trump To prove it ,but it's obvious he wanted to steal it that's why there is no accountability for its
If not why not post every check that was written .

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May 22, 2020 13:11:51   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Lonewolf wrote:
It's up to trump To prove it ,but it's obvious he wanted to steal it that's why there is no accountability for its
If not why not post every check that was written .


Ok...you aren't going to back up your claim..."later!"

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May 22, 2020 14:58:21   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
permafrost wrote:
If the two of you give even a rats ass about t***h, you should follow this link and read the rest of the story...

I doubt very much either of you will do so.. all you want is to white wash the mouth and deeds of the orange Jack off you let slime up the oval office..


https://www.factcheck.org/2019/03/obama-didnt-give-iran-150-billion-in-cash/

DEBUNKING FALSE STORIES
Obama Didn’t Give Iran ‘150 Billion in Cash’
By Saranac Hale Spencer

Posted on March 1, 2019

Quick Take
A v***l meme distorts the facts about the Iran nuclear agreement. The deal, approved by six countries and the European Union, gave Iran access to its own frozen assets.

Full Story
As a candidate during the 2016 campaign, President Donald Trump criticized the international agreement to curb Iran’s nuclear weapons’ program — formally called the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action — that had been adopted the year before. He suggested that the U.S. had returned $150 billion to Iran as part of the deal.

That’s not true. We’ve written about this issue before. PolitiFact and the Washington Post have, too.

But Trump has repeated the claim as recently as December, when he tweeted: “The Democrats and President Obama gave Iran 150 Billion Dollars and got nothing, but they can’t give 5 Billion Dollars for National Security and a Wall?”

Trump’s bogus claim now has been repeated in a meme that references the president’s declaration of a national emergency to redirect federal funds for a proposed wall on the southern border.

The meme, which has been shared 149,000 times on Facebook, mentions the recent lawsuit brought against the Trump administration by 16 states to block the national emergency. The meme says: “So, when Obama bypassed the Congress while giving Iran 150 billion in cash, how many States had sued him?”

First of all, former President Barack Obama didn’t give “150 billion in cash” to Iran.
If the two of you give even a rats ass about t***h... (show quote)
Ah, yes, for scatter brained l*****ts, history began on November 8, 2016, anything that happened before that date cannot possibly be connected to Donald Trump so all of it is irrelevant.

Iran became a problem over 40 years ago.

During the 1960s and 70s, Iran purchased military hardware from the US from private contractors through a Foreign Military Sales (FMS) account with the US - mainly American made aircraft and weaponry. This was largely paid for with income from oil exports which was Iran’s main source of income.

By 1978, Iran was in the throes of revolution and defaulted on payments to the FMS fund. Emerging Iranian leaders canceled orders on major weapons systems. The US continued to carry the FMS and paid some contractors with funds diverted from other areas. While in default the revolution in Iran progressed, foreign-owned properties were confiscated and nationalized.

In 1979, after revolutionaries o*******w the Shah's administration and took American hostages, president Jimmy Carter banned Iranian oil imports and froze approximately 11 billion 1980-US dollars of its assets, and the United States ended its economic and diplomatic ties with Iran.

In October 1983, an Iranian "asset" drove a truck loaded with explosives into the US Marine barracks in Beirut, k*****g 241 Marines. In 1984, the US State Department designated Iran as a state sponsor of terrorism.
Throughout the 1990s, Iran carried out a series of attacks on Iranian dissenters known as the chain k*****gs. These took place both inside and outside the country known as, “extrajudicial k*****gs.” The most famous of these is the assassination of the Shapour Bakhtiar in France and the Mykonos incident in Germany. Iran also continued to build up its military apparatus and nuclear program with black market goods as well as ongoing sponsorship for terrorist aggression. One of the most famous 1990s attacks that took place was the Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia. By 2001, numerous banks, companies, terror organization, mosques, charities, and individuals had assets blocked and frozen by OFAC constituting lists of entities providing material aid to Iran or illegally trying to access the US financial system from Iran. The September 11 attacks on the US brought about the US decision to hold foreign governments accountable in domestic courts.

US President Bush and later President Obama issued legislation making Iran’s government accountable for acts of terrorism through the Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act (FSIA) and later the Terrorism Risk Insurance Act (TRIA) which meant that survivors and family members who lost someone in a kidnapping or terror attack or extrajudicial k*****g could file claims on the Iranian government for damages and then attach writs to Iranian properties held in the US for those damages. This means that not only could hostages and victims of bombings file claims against Iran, but all of the Iranians who had suffered attacks from 1979 onwards, including from the 1980s reign of terror, the chain k*****gs of the 1990s, and so on. Some like the wife of Shapour Bakhtiar whose husband was k**led in France sued Iran through both France and the United States courts.

A History of Iranian attacks on Americans

There is no question that, without restrictions or concern for the lives of Americans or anyone else, we should make damned sure the world's premier state sponsor of terrorism - the "DEATH TO AMERICA" crowd - has all the money they need to pursue their goals.

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May 22, 2020 16:38:28   #
Songline Loc: NYC
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Ah, yes, for scatter brained l*****ts, history began on November 8, 2016, anything that happened before that date cannot possibly be connected to Donald Trump so all of it is irrelevant.

Iran became a problem over 40 years ago.

During the 1960s and 70s, Iran purchased military hardware from the US from private contractors through a Foreign Military Sales (FMS) account with the US - mainly American made aircraft and weaponry. This was largely paid for with income from oil exports which was Iran’s main source of income.

By 1978, Iran was in the throes of revolution and defaulted on payments to the FMS fund. Emerging Iranian leaders canceled orders on major weapons systems. The US continued to carry the FMS and paid some contractors with funds diverted from other areas. While in default the revolution in Iran progressed, foreign-owned properties were confiscated and nationalized.

In 1979, after revolutionaries o*******w the Shah's administration and took American hostages, president Jimmy Carter banned Iranian oil imports and froze approximately 11 billion 1980-US dollars of its assets, and the United States ended its economic and diplomatic ties with Iran.

In October 1983, an Iranian "asset" drove a truck loaded with explosives into the US Marine barracks in Beirut, k*****g 241 Marines. In 1984, the US State Department designated Iran as a state sponsor of terrorism.
Throughout the 1990s, Iran carried out a series of attacks on Iranian dissenters known as the chain k*****gs. These took place both inside and outside the country known as, “extrajudicial k*****gs.” The most famous of these is the assassination of the Shapour Bakhtiar in France and the Mykonos incident in Germany. Iran also continued to build up its military apparatus and nuclear program with black market goods as well as ongoing sponsorship for terrorist aggression. One of the most famous 1990s attacks that took place was the Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia. By 2001, numerous banks, companies, terror organization, mosques, charities, and individuals had assets blocked and frozen by OFAC constituting lists of entities providing material aid to Iran or illegally trying to access the US financial system from Iran. The September 11 attacks on the US brought about the US decision to hold foreign governments accountable in domestic courts.

US President Bush and later President Obama issued legislation making Iran’s government accountable for acts of terrorism through the Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act (FSIA) and later the Terrorism Risk Insurance Act (TRIA) which meant that survivors and family members who lost someone in a kidnapping or terror attack or extrajudicial k*****g could file claims on the Iranian government for damages and then attach writs to Iranian properties held in the US for those damages. This means that not only could hostages and victims of bombings file claims against Iran, but all of the Iranians who had suffered attacks from 1979 onwards, including from the 1980s reign of terror, the chain k*****gs of the 1990s, and so on. Some like the wife of Shapour Bakhtiar whose husband was k**led in France sued Iran through both France and the United States courts.

A History of Iranian attacks on Americans

There is no question that, without restrictions or concern for the lives of Americans or anyone else, we should make damned sure the world's premier state sponsor of terrorism - the "DEATH TO AMERICA" crowd - has all the money they need to pursue their goals.
Ah, yes, for scatter brained l*****ts, history beg... (show quote)


Sorry to disappoint you I’m trying really hard to wake them up, you see I did an exit in 2014 and kept talking to everyone who would listen, I discovered that they are of a cult mentality with no hog native thinking. Of course i feel sadness - but I realized that the NEW democrats are different then those from years gone by. There is no way the old Dems would have v**ed for the likes of Omar, it Talib and hundreds more of same caliber.
In short. I am sad because it’s almost a waist of our energy. Now I try to educate on the DRACONIAN v*****es because it will change people’s DNA and I spent this lock down tome to get very informed. Will it help trying to talk to the Deaf - I don’t know.

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May 22, 2020 17:04:36   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Ah, yes, for scatter brained l*****ts, history began on November 8, 2016, anything that happened before that date cannot possibly be connected to Donald Trump so all of it is irrelevant.

Iran became a problem over 40 years ago.

During the 1960s and 70s, Iran purchased military hardware from the US from private contractors through a Foreign Military Sales (FMS) account with the US - mainly American made aircraft and weaponry. This was largely paid for with income from oil exports which was Iran’s main source of income.

By 1978, Iran was in the throes of revolution and defaulted on payments to the FMS fund. Emerging Iranian leaders canceled orders on major weapons systems. The US continued to carry the FMS and paid some contractors with funds diverted from other areas. While in default the revolution in Iran progressed, foreign-owned properties were confiscated and nationalized.

In 1979, after revolutionaries o*******w the Shah's administration and took American hostages, president Jimmy Carter banned Iranian oil imports and froze approximately 11 billion 1980-US dollars of its assets, and the United States ended its economic and diplomatic ties with Iran.

In October 1983, an Iranian "asset" drove a truck loaded with explosives into the US Marine barracks in Beirut, k*****g 241 Marines. In 1984, the US State Department designated Iran as a state sponsor of terrorism.
Throughout the 1990s, Iran carried out a series of attacks on Iranian dissenters known as the chain k*****gs. These took place both inside and outside the country known as, “extrajudicial k*****gs.” The most famous of these is the assassination of the Shapour Bakhtiar in France and the Mykonos incident in Germany. Iran also continued to build up its military apparatus and nuclear program with black market goods as well as ongoing sponsorship for terrorist aggression. One of the most famous 1990s attacks that took place was the Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia. By 2001, numerous banks, companies, terror organization, mosques, charities, and individuals had assets blocked and frozen by OFAC constituting lists of entities providing material aid to Iran or illegally trying to access the US financial system from Iran. The September 11 attacks on the US brought about the US decision to hold foreign governments accountable in domestic courts.

US President Bush and later President Obama issued legislation making Iran’s government accountable for acts of terrorism through the Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act (FSIA) and later the Terrorism Risk Insurance Act (TRIA) which meant that survivors and family members who lost someone in a kidnapping or terror attack or extrajudicial k*****g could file claims on the Iranian government for damages and then attach writs to Iranian properties held in the US for those damages. This means that not only could hostages and victims of bombings file claims against Iran, but all of the Iranians who had suffered attacks from 1979 onwards, including from the 1980s reign of terror, the chain k*****gs of the 1990s, and so on. Some like the wife of Shapour Bakhtiar whose husband was k**led in France sued Iran through both France and the United States courts.

A History of Iranian attacks on Americans

There is no question that, without restrictions or concern for the lives of Americans or anyone else, we should make damned sure the world's premier state sponsor of terrorism - the "DEATH TO AMERICA" crowd - has all the money they need to pursue their goals.
Ah, yes, for scatter brained l*****ts, history beg... (show quote)



Blade, some people hunt someone to blame, some people hunt for solution..

If you want blame, also do not overlook that in about 1953, the US, via CIA o*******w the elected government of Iran.. a bit of a bad start with them i say.

The bombing in Beirut, this may well be the low point for Ronnie in my view.. the 3rd of 3 things that some would have gone to war over..

One was the kidnapping and h*****g of a former american General, they hung him and sent the video to The white house for Reagan to view..

Two, the CIA agent in charge was kidnapped, tortured for 18 months and his body dumped in ditch for discovery.. Horrible death for anyone.. he gave up so much information, it nearly ended the US intelligence work for 2 decades.. He gave up the first group before sunset of his first day.. Imagine what he went through before they let him die..

Three, the bombing of Marine and french military... k**led 241 Marines, 58 french solders..

driver was a Lebanese national with ties to Hezbollah, which as you said was and is funded by Iran..

Reagan, chose to pack up our military and go home rather then avenge these 3 and more incidents..

two days after the bombing, the US attacked Grenada; to detract from the shame of our withdrawal from Beirut..

Years later, Bin Ladon stated that this withdrawal convinced him the United States was weak and could be attacked.

so now we are at your point, which seems to be that Iran should never have been a member of any international agreement..

However, after all those decades of war and h**e.. the agreement was working. according to all member nations and our own intelligence service..

trump withdrew and for all practical purposes it no longer exists..

It was an excellent first step.. it halted the Iran nuclear program.

Set up the 2nd step which was to address the very terrorist programs we all dread and h**e..

So in a nut shell, 50 years of terror/counter terror did not work at all. So trump ended the only thing that had made progress in all that time and now we are again in a hopeless quandary..

Combine that with the betrayal of the Kurds, the implanting of Russia into the Mid East and our dropping out of world leader ship.

We do not even have to look at the v***s of today for many excellent reasons to dump trump..

So yes, i will indeed be ridin with Biden.. both in effort and money..



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May 22, 2020 18:02:13   #
WEBCO
 
permafrost wrote:
You pretend to be so dense....

America did not give any money to Iran..

We gave them back their own money after holding it for decades.. we got a very favorable outcome from the international court/agency decision..

many times huge amounts of money have been unaccounted for.. these are always declared clarical errors so that ends each look see at them..

The comments today about the thieving orange criminal are because he removed the oversight on the stimulus bill which his son in law was given the duty of handing out..

Now, think hard,,, huge amount of money,, son in law in charge, no oversight..

Gee, could the orange con man ask for a more lucrative few months???
You pretend to be so dense.... br br America did ... (show quote)


No Obama did give Iran 400 million of US money to pay the ransom to get hostages back. This was illegal, just like the release of the 5 Taliban generals he released for that t*****r Bergdahl.

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May 22, 2020 18:24:38   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
permafrost wrote:
Blade, some people hunt someone to blame, some people hunt for solution..

If you want blame, also do not overlook that in about 1953, the US, via CIA o*******w the elected government of Iran.. a bit of a bad start with them i say.

The bombing in Beirut, this may well be the low point for Ronnie in my view.. the 3rd of 3 things that some would have gone to war over..

One was the kidnapping and h*****g of a former american General, they hung him and sent the video to The white house for Reagan to view..

Two, the CIA agent in charge was kidnapped, tortured for 18 months and his body dumped in ditch for discovery.. Horrible death for anyone.. he gave up so much information, it nearly ended the US intelligence work for 2 decades.. He gave up the first group before sunset of his first day.. Imagine what he went through before they let him die..

Three, the bombing of Marine and french military... k**led 241 Marines, 58 french solders..

driver was a Lebanese national with ties to Hezbollah, which as you said was and is funded by Iran..

Reagan, chose to pack up our military and go home rather then avenge these 3 and more incidents..

two days after the bombing, the US attacked Grenada; to detract from the shame of our withdrawal from Beirut..

Years later, Bin Ladon stated that this withdrawal convinced him the United States was weak and could be attacked.

so now we are at your point, which seems to be that Iran should never have been a member of any international agreement..

However, after all those decades of war and h**e.. the agreement was working. according to all member nations and our own intelligence service..

trump withdrew and for all practical purposes it no longer exists..

It was an excellent first step.. it halted the Iran nuclear program.

Set up the 2nd step which was to address the very terrorist programs we all dread and h**e..

So in a nut shell, 50 years of terror/counter terror did not work at all. So trump ended the only thing that had made progress in all that time and now we are again in a hopeless quandary..

Combine that with the betrayal of the Kurds, the implanting of Russia into the Mid East and our dropping out of world leader ship.

We do not even have to look at the v***s of today for many excellent reasons to dump trump..

So yes, i will indeed be ridin with Biden.. both in effort and money..
Blade, some people hunt someone to blame, some peo... (show quote)
Anything to trash America and kiss the asses of her enemies, right?

Well, you dimwit, go ridin with biden, just keep him out of Dave & Buster's sports bars. Could get him arrested.





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May 22, 2020 19:23:50   #
Songline Loc: NYC
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Anything to trash America and kiss the asses of her enemies, right?

Well, you dimwit, go ridin with biden, just keep him out of Dave & Buster's sports bars. Could get him arrested.

Thanks for standing for America.
The New Left are a barrel of sheep - Someone just sent me a photo of joe with kkk king, left v**es for this crap SMH. Americans are baffling me with their h**e America insanity 🙄👎😱. How did they let themselves get so brainwashed or should I say brain dead?

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May 23, 2020 01:35:11   #
Digger47
 
Lonewolf wrote:
Your a r****t c****e like the clown you suport


Pot calling the kettle black there loonies toons. You can make your r****t accusations all you want but that doesn't make t true. You want to see a r****t take a good gander in the mirror. You piece of crap!!

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May 23, 2020 09:17:38   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Lonewolf wrote:
Do you read any news at all did you not know congress gave trump 2 trillion and trump put his kid in charge of handing it out and fired all the inspector general's who were supposed to watch over it for the American people.
Nothing to see here right


I read plenty and askrd because your title is very general in nature and could’ve meant anything. Nor did you reply to radiance when she brought up the $2 trillion payout for the people. Then we jump to Iran so I asked for clarification before speaking...

“Trump and his cabal steal trillions”. ~<Title>
You must agree it is a rather generalized statement, also false but that’s not unexpected....

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May 23, 2020 09:38:16   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
But you want to call out a legal t***saction approved by Congress then lets zero in on this BS, your oboma did in his last hours of office...Not approved by Congress..Yes, one sneaky little POS, that he is~~
And you supported him, ha, what a joke.. Hypocritical as well..

On Monday the Associated Press reported that as one of Barack Obama's final actions in office before the inauguration of President Donald Trump, he released $221 million to the Palestinian Authority.
However, the payment itself has been frozen by the State Department under President Trump.

The money came from federal aid the US provides to the West Bank and Gaza, aid that totaled about $355 million in 2015. The sum released by Obama during his last hours in office had been held up by a group in Congress that included Reps. Ed Royce of California and Kay Granger of Texas.

"The easiest way to sum it up is that Congress had been looking at various behaviors from Palestine — unilateral attempts at statehood, corruption, incitement of violence, and paying salaries to people in jail for terrorism — and that's why the hold has been there," Dr. Jonathan Schanzer of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies told Business Insider.

Schanzer characterized the move by Obama as both shocking and "a strange message to send."

"I was tracking President Obama's 11th-hour moves on the Palestinians, and this issue never came up once ... Most analysts and observers didn't think Obama would or could do this," Schanzer said.

Obama is "releasing funds to a guy that’s become an autocrat," Schanzer said.

Obama's unilateral action came as he closed his presidency with a critical eye toward Israel. In December, the UN Security Council passed a resolution demanding that Israel stop building settlements on Palestinian land. The US refused to v**e on the resolution, effectively allowing it to pass.

Trump has repeatedly floated the idea of moving the US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem, which Abbas has urged against.



https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/obama-queitly-sends-221-million-to-palestine-2017-1%3famp

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May 23, 2020 09:53:26   #
Lonewolf
 
lindajoy wrote:
But you want to call out a legal t***saction approved by Congress then lets zero in on this BS, your oboma did in his last hours of office...Not approved by Congress..Yes, one sneaky little POS, that he is~~
And you supported him, ha, what a joke.. Hypocritical as well..

On Monday the Associated Press reported that as one of Barack Obama's final actions in office before the inauguration of President Donald Trump, he released $221 million to the Palestinian Authority.
However, the payment itself has been frozen by the State Department under President Trump.

The money came from federal aid the US provides to the West Bank and Gaza, aid that totaled about $355 million in 2015. The sum released by Obama during his last hours in office had been held up by a group in Congress that included Reps. Ed Royce of California and Kay Granger of Texas.

"The easiest way to sum it up is that Congress had been looking at various behaviors from Palestine — unilateral attempts at statehood, corruption, incitement of violence, and paying salaries to people in jail for terrorism — and that's why the hold has been there," Dr. Jonathan Schanzer of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies told Business Insider.

Schanzer characterized the move by Obama as both shocking and "a strange message to send."

"I was tracking President Obama's 11th-hour moves on the Palestinians, and this issue never came up once ... Most analysts and observers didn't think Obama would or could do this," Schanzer said.

Obama is "releasing funds to a guy that’s become an autocrat," Schanzer said.

Obama's unilateral action came as he closed his presidency with a critical eye toward Israel. In December, the UN Security Council passed a resolution demanding that Israel stop building settlements on Palestinian land. The US refused to v**e on the resolution, effectively allowing it to pass.

Trump has repeatedly floated the idea of moving the US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem, which Abbas has urged against.



https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/obama-queitly-sends-221-million-to-palestine-2017-1%3famp
But you want to call out a legal t***saction appro... (show quote)


If you go bAck in history you will find we have Been given Palestinian aid for a long time and Israeli should not be building in the west bank.

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May 23, 2020 09:55:50   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Lonewolf wrote:
If you go bAck in history you will find we have Been given Palestinian aid for a long time and Israeli should not be building in the west bank.


Of course you support the terrorists.

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May 23, 2020 10:11:56   #
Lonewolf
 
byronglimish wrote:
Of course you support the terrorists.


Israel and Saudi Arabia are the biggest sponsor of terrorism in the middle east.
It was Saudi Arabia that attacked us on 9/11 not Palestine.
But we kiss the ass of the Saudis and butcher the Palestinians.

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