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Early Herd Immunity against C****-**: A Dangerous Misconception
May 19, 2020 18:17:49   #
GoCubs Loc: Earth
 
Early Herd Immunity against C****-**: A Dangerous Misconception

by David Dowdy, Department of Epidemiology, Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
Gypsyamber D’Souza, Department of Epidemiology, Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health

We have listened with concern to voices erroneously suggesting that herd immunity may “soon slow the spread”1 of C****-**. For example, Rush Limbaugh2 recently claimed that “herd immunity has occurred in California.” As infectious disease epidemiologists, we wish to state clearly that herd immunity against C****-** will not be achieved at a population level in 2020, barring a public health catastrophe.

Although more than 2.5 million confirmed cases of C****-** have been reported worldwide, studies suggest that (as of early April 2020) no more than 2-4%3–5 of any country’s population has been infected with SARS-CoV-2 (the c****av***s that causes C****-**). Even in hotspots like New York City that have been hit hardest by the p******c, initial studies suggest that perhaps 15-21%6,7 of people have been exposed so far. In getting to that level of exposure, more than 17,500 of the 8.4 million people in New York City (about 1 in every 500 New Yorkers) have died, with the overall death rate in the city suggesting deaths may be undercounted and mortality may be even higher.8

Some have entertained the idea of “controlled voluntary infection,”9 akin to the “chickenpox parties” of the 1980s. However, C****-** is 100 times more lethal than the chickenpox. For example, on the Diamond Princess cruise ship, the mortality rate among those infected with SARS-CoV-2 was 1%. Someone who goes to a “c****av***s party” to get infected would not only be substantially increasing their own chance of dying in the next month, they would also be putting their families and friends at risk. C****-** is now the leading cause of death in the United States, k*****g almost 2,000 Americans every day.8 Chickenpox never k**led more than 150 Americans in a year.9

To reach herd immunity for C****-**, likely 70% or more of the population would need to be immune. Without a v*****e, over 200 million Americans would have to get infected before we reach this threshold. Put another way, even if the current pace of the C****-** p******c continues in the United States – with over 25,000 confirmed cases a day – it will be well into 2021 before we reach herd immunity. If current daily death rates continue, over half a million Americans would be dead from C****-** by that time.

As we discuss when and how to phase in re-opening,10 it is important to understand how vulnerable we remain. Increased testing will help us better understand the scope of infection, but it is clear this p******c is still only beginning to unfold.

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May 19, 2020 18:21:36   #
Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas
 
GoCubs wrote:
Early Herd Immunity against C****-**: A Dangerous Misconception

by David Dowdy, Department of Epidemiology, Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
Gypsyamber D’Souza, Department of Epidemiology, Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health

We have listened with concern to voices erroneously suggesting that herd immunity may “soon slow the spread”1 of C****-**. For example, Rush Limbaugh2 recently claimed that “herd immunity has occurred in California.” As infectious disease epidemiologists, we wish to state clearly that herd immunity against C****-** will not be achieved at a population level in 2020, barring a public health catastrophe.

Although more than 2.5 million confirmed cases of C****-** have been reported worldwide, studies suggest that (as of early April 2020) no more than 2-4%3–5 of any country’s population has been infected with SARS-CoV-2 (the c****av***s that causes C****-**). Even in hotspots like New York City that have been hit hardest by the p******c, initial studies suggest that perhaps 15-21%6,7 of people have been exposed so far. In getting to that level of exposure, more than 17,500 of the 8.4 million people in New York City (about 1 in every 500 New Yorkers) have died, with the overall death rate in the city suggesting deaths may be undercounted and mortality may be even higher.8

Some have entertained the idea of “controlled voluntary infection,”9 akin to the “chickenpox parties” of the 1980s. However, C****-** is 100 times more lethal than the chickenpox. For example, on the Diamond Princess cruise ship, the mortality rate among those infected with SARS-CoV-2 was 1%. Someone who goes to a “c****av***s party” to get infected would not only be substantially increasing their own chance of dying in the next month, they would also be putting their families and friends at risk. C****-** is now the leading cause of death in the United States, k*****g almost 2,000 Americans every day.8 Chickenpox never k**led more than 150 Americans in a year.9

To reach herd immunity for C****-**, likely 70% or more of the population would need to be immune. Without a v*****e, over 200 million Americans would have to get infected before we reach this threshold. Put another way, even if the current pace of the C****-** p******c continues in the United States – with over 25,000 confirmed cases a day – it will be well into 2021 before we reach herd immunity. If current daily death rates continue, over half a million Americans would be dead from C****-** by that time.

As we discuss when and how to phase in re-opening,10 it is important to understand how vulnerable we remain. Increased testing will help us better understand the scope of infection, but it is clear this p******c is still only beginning to unfold.
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May 19, 2020 19:11:53   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
And this guy gets offended by the word troll and snowflake.

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May 21, 2020 00:25:29   #
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GoCubs wrote:
Early Herd Immunity against C****-**: A Dangerous Misconception

by David Dowdy, Department of Epidemiology, Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
Gypsyamber D’Souza, Department of Epidemiology, Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health

We have listened with concern to voices erroneously suggesting that herd immunity may “soon slow the spread”1 of C****-**. For example, Rush Limbaugh2 recently claimed that “herd immunity has occurred in California.” As infectious disease epidemiologists, we wish to state clearly that herd immunity against C****-** will not be achieved at a population level in 2020, barring a public health catastrophe.

Although more than 2.5 million confirmed cases of C****-** have been reported worldwide, studies suggest that (as of early April 2020) no more than 2-4%3–5 of any country’s population has been infected with SARS-CoV-2 (the c****av***s that causes C****-**). Even in hotspots like New York City that have been hit hardest by the p******c, initial studies suggest that perhaps 15-21%6,7 of people have been exposed so far. In getting to that level of exposure, more than 17,500 of the 8.4 million people in New York City (about 1 in every 500 New Yorkers) have died, with the overall death rate in the city suggesting deaths may be undercounted and mortality may be even higher.8

Some have entertained the idea of “controlled voluntary infection,”9 akin to the “chickenpox parties” of the 1980s. However, C****-** is 100 times more lethal than the chickenpox. For example, on the Diamond Princess cruise ship, the mortality rate among those infected with SARS-CoV-2 was 1%. Someone who goes to a “c****av***s party” to get infected would not only be substantially increasing their own chance of dying in the next month, they would also be putting their families and friends at risk. C****-** is now the leading cause of death in the United States, k*****g almost 2,000 Americans every day.8 Chickenpox never k**led more than 150 Americans in a year.9

To reach herd immunity for C****-**, likely 70% or more of the population would need to be immune. Without a v*****e, over 200 million Americans would have to get infected before we reach this threshold. Put another way, even if the current pace of the C****-** p******c continues in the United States – with over 25,000 confirmed cases a day – it will be well into 2021 before we reach herd immunity. If current daily death rates continue, over half a million Americans would be dead from C****-** by that time.

As we discuss when and how to phase in re-opening,10 it is important to understand how vulnerable we remain. Increased testing will help us better understand the scope of infection, but it is clear this p******c is still only beginning to unfold.
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There is encouraging news. Here in NY recent antibody tests indicate that AT LEAST 20% of the population has already been infected by C****-**. Additional research indicates that t***smissibility was lower than originally indicated and herd immunity might be achievable with as little as 50% of the population infected.

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