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Washington Governor Jay Inslee: Submit or Starve
May 18, 2020 19:18:33   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
Washington Governor Jay Inslee: Submit or Starve
Bryan Fischer ~ May 18, 2020
Governor Jay Inslee of Washington has instituted, by royal decree, a regulation that turns any ordinary citizen who defies his C****av***s testing edict into a criminal. In fact, such a person will not be allowed even to leave his home to buy food or pick up prescription medication.

This, of course, is for our benefit. It’s all a part of Inslee’s “Contact Tracing” program, which, we are told, is necessary to “box in” the C****av***s. Inslee’s contact tracing involves interviewing people with positive C****-** tests to identify who they’ve been in contact with, getting those people tested, and then making sure they isolate themselves and their families.

At the press conference introducing this proposal one question kept coming up – what about enforcement? How will you ensure Washington State residents comply, and what if they don't? One reporter asked the quite sensible question, “When it comes to contact tracing, how are you guys going to handle people or families who want to refuse to test or to self-isolate?

“If they want to leave their home to get groceries, I know you’ve said they can’t do that; how will you make sure they don’t?”

Inslee’s answer is even worse than you might have expected. According to Lynwood Times reporter Luke Putvin, “For those businesses/individuals that don’t comply, the governor stated that he confirmed with Attorney General Bob Ferguson, there will be sanctions in civil or criminal court.”

So, everybody who has ever been in contact with anyone who has tested positive for the Chinese v***s will be contacted by someone in government and ordered to submit to a C****av***s test. If an individual does not comply, the governor has made it clear he will send the authorities after you to haul you off to jail.

Bob Ferguson, you may recall, is the same tyrant who tried to send great-grandmother Baronelle Stutzman to prison, take everything she owned, and leave her stranded at the curb outside her own house in her pajamas. Her crime? She politely refused to do a floral arrangement for a homosexual wedding. So, when Bob Ferguson says there will be “civil or criminal sanctions” for people who don’t comply, you can take that to the bank.

From the standpoint of the federal Constitution, it should be clear that an American citizen cannot be required to submit to an invasive medical procedure without a warrant. Sticking a six-inch Q-tip up somebody’s nose would qualify as invasive in anybody’s book. The Fourth Amendment guarantees everybody the right to be “secure in their persons” against “unreasonable searches and seizures” and “no warrants shall issue but upon probable cause.”

The C***D test involves both a “search” for bodily secretions and a “seizure” of the same. That cannot happen under the Constitution without a warrant. Are judges ready to sign off on invasion of privacy warrants for possibly every single person who lives in the state of Washington?

The Washington state constitution (Article I, Section 7) says “No person shall be disturbed in his private affairs, or his home invaded, without authority of law.” Well, in dealing with C***D, we don’t have a law in Washington that compels people to submit to invasive medical procedures against their will, we have only an autocratic decree by a regressive and power-hungry governor which does not carry the force of law. It still looks from here like authorities are going to have to get a warrant before they start sticking Q-tips into people’s nasal cavities without permission.

So, this is Democrat Governor Inslee’s vision of good public policy. You will get a call from a nameless government employee telling you that you've been exposed to someone who's C****-** positive. You will not be told who that person is – why, that would be an invasion of privacy! But you and your entire family will be ordered to stay inside your house for 14 days and not allowed to leave, even to go to the grocery store or the pharmacy.

You will not be permitted to leave your house until you test negative. Some other bureaucrat from the government will check in on you during your incarceration-in-place sentence, get groceries for you "in some fashion," and go to the pharmacy for you. He might even be somebody from the National Guard. They run out of people to do that? You go hungry.

For proximity-based contact tracing to work, numerous obstacles must be overcome. First, a majority of the population needs to own smartphones. Then they must all voluntarily download and use the app. (In tech-happy, Singapore, only about 33% of folks have signed up to use the tracing app. In Utah, only one percent of the population has signed up.) People would always need to carry their phones with them, be sure they are always turned on, and be sure they have remembered to activate Bluetooth.

As one tech expert explained, even if 10% of the population used a contact-tracing app — a rate typically achieved only with hugely popular apps — just 1% of contacts would be discovered this way, given that both people need to be using the tool.

The reality is that there are massive invasion of privacy issues involved here that the American people are simply not going to put up with. Contact tracing done right requires the government to track everybody’s movements all of the time everywhere they go. This is so that everybody who has been within six feet of any infected person for more than 15 minutes can be fingered and tracked down. That’s a big fat, “No thanks.”

Here’s a follow-up question. The government is pressing ahead with a Manhattan-Project-type effort to develop a v*****e, with a lot of money from Bill Gates. Bill Gates has admitted that upwards of 700,000 people could be injured or die from a v*****e. If the v*****e is developed, will Governor Inslee order his citizens to get v******ted or face imprisonment? If he’ll do something like that in connection with the problem, why wouldn’t he do something like that in connection with the solution?

Ronald Reagan once uttered these perceptive words: "One of the traditional methods of imposing statism or socialism on a people has been by way of medicine. It's very easy to disguise a medical program as a humanitarian project."

And beyond all that, writes Betsy McCaughey, a former lieutenant governor of New York, “A mountain of scientific evidence indicates contact tracing won’t work against the c****av***s. And given the v***s’ nature, deploying it earlier probably wouldn’t have stopped the spread.”

Some states are already trying the misbegotten contact tracing idea. One of the quite practical problems they’ve run into is that people think the call from the government worker bee is spam and they refuse to answer.

I’m reminded of something C.S. Lewis once wrote:

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”

You want to see what that kind of tyranny looks like in action, take a trip to the state of Washington. On second thought, don’t. The governor may not let you leave.

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May 18, 2020 19:29:33   #
Liberty Tree
 
Parky60 wrote:
Washington Governor Jay Inslee: Submit or Starve
Bryan Fischer ~ May 18, 2020
Governor Jay Inslee of Washington has instituted, by royal decree, a regulation that turns any ordinary citizen who defies his C****av***s testing edict into a criminal. In fact, such a person will not be allowed even to leave his home to buy food or pick up prescription medication.

This, of course, is for our benefit. It’s all a part of Inslee’s “Contact Tracing” program, which, we are told, is necessary to “box in” the C****av***s. Inslee’s contact tracing involves interviewing people with positive C****-** tests to identify who they’ve been in contact with, getting those people tested, and then making sure they isolate themselves and their families.

At the press conference introducing this proposal one question kept coming up – what about enforcement? How will you ensure Washington State residents comply, and what if they don't? One reporter asked the quite sensible question, “When it comes to contact tracing, how are you guys going to handle people or families who want to refuse to test or to self-isolate?

“If they want to leave their home to get groceries, I know you’ve said they can’t do that; how will you make sure they don’t?”

Inslee’s answer is even worse than you might have expected. According to Lynwood Times reporter Luke Putvin, “For those businesses/individuals that don’t comply, the governor stated that he confirmed with Attorney General Bob Ferguson, there will be sanctions in civil or criminal court.”

So, everybody who has ever been in contact with anyone who has tested positive for the Chinese v***s will be contacted by someone in government and ordered to submit to a C****av***s test. If an individual does not comply, the governor has made it clear he will send the authorities after you to haul you off to jail.

Bob Ferguson, you may recall, is the same tyrant who tried to send great-grandmother Baronelle Stutzman to prison, take everything she owned, and leave her stranded at the curb outside her own house in her pajamas. Her crime? She politely refused to do a floral arrangement for a homosexual wedding. So, when Bob Ferguson says there will be “civil or criminal sanctions” for people who don’t comply, you can take that to the bank.

From the standpoint of the federal Constitution, it should be clear that an American citizen cannot be required to submit to an invasive medical procedure without a warrant. Sticking a six-inch Q-tip up somebody’s nose would qualify as invasive in anybody’s book. The Fourth Amendment guarantees everybody the right to be “secure in their persons” against “unreasonable searches and seizures” and “no warrants shall issue but upon probable cause.”

The C***D test involves both a “search” for bodily secretions and a “seizure” of the same. That cannot happen under the Constitution without a warrant. Are judges ready to sign off on invasion of privacy warrants for possibly every single person who lives in the state of Washington?

The Washington state constitution (Article I, Section 7) says “No person shall be disturbed in his private affairs, or his home invaded, without authority of law.” Well, in dealing with C***D, we don’t have a law in Washington that compels people to submit to invasive medical procedures against their will, we have only an autocratic decree by a regressive and power-hungry governor which does not carry the force of law. It still looks from here like authorities are going to have to get a warrant before they start sticking Q-tips into people’s nasal cavities without permission.

So, this is Democrat Governor Inslee’s vision of good public policy. You will get a call from a nameless government employee telling you that you've been exposed to someone who's C****-** positive. You will not be told who that person is – why, that would be an invasion of privacy! But you and your entire family will be ordered to stay inside your house for 14 days and not allowed to leave, even to go to the grocery store or the pharmacy.

You will not be permitted to leave your house until you test negative. Some other bureaucrat from the government will check in on you during your incarceration-in-place sentence, get groceries for you "in some fashion," and go to the pharmacy for you. He might even be somebody from the National Guard. They run out of people to do that? You go hungry.

For proximity-based contact tracing to work, numerous obstacles must be overcome. First, a majority of the population needs to own smartphones. Then they must all voluntarily download and use the app. (In tech-happy, Singapore, only about 33% of folks have signed up to use the tracing app. In Utah, only one percent of the population has signed up.) People would always need to carry their phones with them, be sure they are always turned on, and be sure they have remembered to activate Bluetooth.

As one tech expert explained, even if 10% of the population used a contact-tracing app — a rate typically achieved only with hugely popular apps — just 1% of contacts would be discovered this way, given that both people need to be using the tool.

The reality is that there are massive invasion of privacy issues involved here that the American people are simply not going to put up with. Contact tracing done right requires the government to track everybody’s movements all of the time everywhere they go. This is so that everybody who has been within six feet of any infected person for more than 15 minutes can be fingered and tracked down. That’s a big fat, “No thanks.”

Here’s a follow-up question. The government is pressing ahead with a Manhattan-Project-type effort to develop a v*****e, with a lot of money from Bill Gates. Bill Gates has admitted that upwards of 700,000 people could be injured or die from a v*****e. If the v*****e is developed, will Governor Inslee order his citizens to get v******ted or face imprisonment? If he’ll do something like that in connection with the problem, why wouldn’t he do something like that in connection with the solution?

Ronald Reagan once uttered these perceptive words: "One of the traditional methods of imposing statism or socialism on a people has been by way of medicine. It's very easy to disguise a medical program as a humanitarian project."

And beyond all that, writes Betsy McCaughey, a former lieutenant governor of New York, “A mountain of scientific evidence indicates contact tracing won’t work against the c****av***s. And given the v***s’ nature, deploying it earlier probably wouldn’t have stopped the spread.”

Some states are already trying the misbegotten contact tracing idea. One of the quite practical problems they’ve run into is that people think the call from the government worker bee is spam and they refuse to answer.

I’m reminded of something C.S. Lewis once wrote:

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”

You want to see what that kind of tyranny looks like in action, take a trip to the state of Washington. On second thought, don’t. The governor may not let you leave.
b Washington Governor Jay Inslee: Submit or Starv... (show quote)


Has any one noticed that the tyrannical anti- constitution overeaches are being done by Democrats?Just a small preview of what to expect if they get full control.

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May 18, 2020 20:04:28   #
teabag09
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Has any one noticed that the tyrannical anti- constitution overeaches are being done by Democrats?Just a small preview of what to expect if they get full control.


DOES ANYONE NOTICE THAT THESE CRIMOCRATE GOVENORS ARE GOING TO GET PEOPLE SHOT? I will NOT be confined to my home. I've over the years stockpiled enough food, water and means to cook to last a long time, oh, as well as TP, but I don't give a F if it's the Governor of my State of Va., or it's the President of the United States,(which he won't), I will not be jailed in my home. I will gladly give my life and go to war with these bastards first.

The people acting as experts for the most part are full of S**T and all of their predictions have been WRONG!

GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH! I've not begin to FIGHT! Those who would trade security for liberty deserve neither. I need a hair cut and a mani. Girls, most guys won't understand the last. Mike

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May 18, 2020 20:06:25   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Parky60 wrote:
Washington Governor Jay Inslee: Submit or Starve
Bryan Fischer ~ May 18, 2020
Governor Jay Inslee of Washington has instituted, by royal decree, a regulation that turns any ordinary citizen who defies his C****av***s testing edict into a criminal. In fact, such a person will not be allowed even to leave his home to buy food or pick up prescription medication.

This, of course, is for our benefit. It’s all a part of Inslee’s “Contact Tracing” program, which, we are told, is necessary to “box in” the C****av***s. Inslee’s contact tracing involves interviewing people with positive C****-** tests to identify who they’ve been in contact with, getting those people tested, and then making sure they isolate themselves and their families.

At the press conference introducing this proposal one question kept coming up – what about enforcement? How will you ensure Washington State residents comply, and what if they don't? One reporter asked the quite sensible question, “When it comes to contact tracing, how are you guys going to handle people or families who want to refuse to test or to self-isolate?

“If they want to leave their home to get groceries, I know you’ve said they can’t do that; how will you make sure they don’t?”

Inslee’s answer is even worse than you might have expected. According to Lynwood Times reporter Luke Putvin, “For those businesses/individuals that don’t comply, the governor stated that he confirmed with Attorney General Bob Ferguson, there will be sanctions in civil or criminal court.”

So, everybody who has ever been in contact with anyone who has tested positive for the Chinese v***s will be contacted by someone in government and ordered to submit to a C****av***s test. If an individual does not comply, the governor has made it clear he will send the authorities after you to haul you off to jail.

Bob Ferguson, you may recall, is the same tyrant who tried to send great-grandmother Baronelle Stutzman to prison, take everything she owned, and leave her stranded at the curb outside her own house in her pajamas. Her crime? She politely refused to do a floral arrangement for a homosexual wedding. So, when Bob Ferguson says there will be “civil or criminal sanctions” for people who don’t comply, you can take that to the bank.

From the standpoint of the federal Constitution, it should be clear that an American citizen cannot be required to submit to an invasive medical procedure without a warrant. Sticking a six-inch Q-tip up somebody’s nose would qualify as invasive in anybody’s book. The Fourth Amendment guarantees everybody the right to be “secure in their persons” against “unreasonable searches and seizures” and “no warrants shall issue but upon probable cause.”

The C***D test involves both a “search” for bodily secretions and a “seizure” of the same. That cannot happen under the Constitution without a warrant. Are judges ready to sign off on invasion of privacy warrants for possibly every single person who lives in the state of Washington?

The Washington state constitution (Article I, Section 7) says “No person shall be disturbed in his private affairs, or his home invaded, without authority of law.” Well, in dealing with C***D, we don’t have a law in Washington that compels people to submit to invasive medical procedures against their will, we have only an autocratic decree by a regressive and power-hungry governor which does not carry the force of law. It still looks from here like authorities are going to have to get a warrant before they start sticking Q-tips into people’s nasal cavities without permission.

So, this is Democrat Governor Inslee’s vision of good public policy. You will get a call from a nameless government employee telling you that you've been exposed to someone who's C****-** positive. You will not be told who that person is – why, that would be an invasion of privacy! But you and your entire family will be ordered to stay inside your house for 14 days and not allowed to leave, even to go to the grocery store or the pharmacy.

You will not be permitted to leave your house until you test negative. Some other bureaucrat from the government will check in on you during your incarceration-in-place sentence, get groceries for you "in some fashion," and go to the pharmacy for you. He might even be somebody from the National Guard. They run out of people to do that? You go hungry.

For proximity-based contact tracing to work, numerous obstacles must be overcome. First, a majority of the population needs to own smartphones. Then they must all voluntarily download and use the app. (In tech-happy, Singapore, only about 33% of folks have signed up to use the tracing app. In Utah, only one percent of the population has signed up.) People would always need to carry their phones with them, be sure they are always turned on, and be sure they have remembered to activate Bluetooth.

As one tech expert explained, even if 10% of the population used a contact-tracing app — a rate typically achieved only with hugely popular apps — just 1% of contacts would be discovered this way, given that both people need to be using the tool.

The reality is that there are massive invasion of privacy issues involved here that the American people are simply not going to put up with. Contact tracing done right requires the government to track everybody’s movements all of the time everywhere they go. This is so that everybody who has been within six feet of any infected person for more than 15 minutes can be fingered and tracked down. That’s a big fat, “No thanks.”

Here’s a follow-up question. The government is pressing ahead with a Manhattan-Project-type effort to develop a v*****e, with a lot of money from Bill Gates. Bill Gates has admitted that upwards of 700,000 people could be injured or die from a v*****e. If the v*****e is developed, will Governor Inslee order his citizens to get v******ted or face imprisonment? If he’ll do something like that in connection with the problem, why wouldn’t he do something like that in connection with the solution?

Ronald Reagan once uttered these perceptive words: "One of the traditional methods of imposing statism or socialism on a people has been by way of medicine. It's very easy to disguise a medical program as a humanitarian project."

And beyond all that, writes Betsy McCaughey, a former lieutenant governor of New York, “A mountain of scientific evidence indicates contact tracing won’t work against the c****av***s. And given the v***s’ nature, deploying it earlier probably wouldn’t have stopped the spread.”

Some states are already trying the misbegotten contact tracing idea. One of the quite practical problems they’ve run into is that people think the call from the government worker bee is spam and they refuse to answer.

I’m reminded of something C.S. Lewis once wrote:

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”

You want to see what that kind of tyranny looks like in action, take a trip to the state of Washington. On second thought, don’t. The governor may not let you leave.
b Washington Governor Jay Inslee: Submit or Starv... (show quote)


Interesting article...

I find myself agreeing with the concerns regarding rights...

But in all honesty, if you knew you had come into contact with a carrier wouldn't you want to be tested?

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May 18, 2020 20:48:51   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Interesting article...

I find myself agreeing with the concerns regarding rights...

But in all honesty, if you knew you had come into contact with a carrier wouldn't you want to be tested?

I respectfully submit that I will never be tested -- I won't go into details but I believe that I am immune -- and I will NEVER be v******ted or volunteerly participate in contact tracing.

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May 18, 2020 20:55:17   #
ImLogicallyRight
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Has any one noticed that the tyrannical anti- constitution overeaches are being done by Democrats?Just a small preview of what to expect if they get full control.


And that is just a start as you point out.

I've said for years that I'm against gun control. I don't hunt and I don't feel the need to protect my property with a gun. It isn't worth all that much and certainly all of the bull s**t that even a self protection defense would entail over a god damn TV. And I don't own a car. So, I don't need a gun, except for one reason. To protect myself from someone who would take my gun away from me or take away my liberty. That is the main reason to never submit to even the slightest movement on gun control. It is only a first step to enslaving you.

Which brings us to the current subject. The main reason to never give up on gun control is sooner or later we are going to have to shoot the bastards and start over. Governor Jay Inslee, you are knocking on that door. If you ever really open it, I sincerely hope someone in Washington blasts you away. I'm not calling for anyone to do that. That is against the law. But, if it happens I will donate to your Go Fund Me Page in a heart beat.

These dictatorial Governors are going to far and for to long. They are issuing edicts without the force of the State Legislatures and in most cases against the State Constitutions. They are our employees and we are not their s***es to do with as they wish. They may have some right to pass edicts like the lock down for a short limited time and then to be backed up by a limited State law.

In the words of one of our founding fathers, Ben Franklin
“Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”

"Freedom is not a gift bestowed upon us by other men, but a right that belongs to us by the laws of God and nature."

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb v****g on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the v**e."

Logically Right

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May 18, 2020 21:17:38   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Parky60 wrote:
I respectfully submit that I will never be tested -- I won't go into details but I believe that I am immune -- and I will NEVER be v******ted or volunteerly participate in contact tracing.


I'm edgy about the v*****e as well...

Don't like the idea of it being rushed...

Think it might be best if only used for vulnerable individuals in populations with outbreaks...

Contact tracing makes sense to me...

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May 18, 2020 21:19:26   #
son of witless
 
Parky60 wrote:
Washington Governor Jay Inslee: Submit or Starve
Bryan Fischer ~ May 18, 2020
Governor Jay Inslee of Washington has instituted, by royal decree, a regulation that turns any ordinary citizen who defies his C****av***s testing edict into a criminal. In fact, such a person will not be allowed even to leave his home to buy food or pick up prescription medication.

This, of course, is for our benefit. It’s all a part of Inslee’s “Contact Tracing” program, which, we are told, is necessary to “box in” the C****av***s. Inslee’s contact tracing involves interviewing people with positive C****-** tests to identify who they’ve been in contact with, getting those people tested, and then making sure they isolate themselves and their families.

At the press conference introducing this proposal one question kept coming up – what about enforcement? How will you ensure Washington State residents comply, and what if they don't? One reporter asked the quite sensible question, “When it comes to contact tracing, how are you guys going to handle people or families who want to refuse to test or to self-isolate?

“If they want to leave their home to get groceries, I know you’ve said they can’t do that; how will you make sure they don’t?”

Inslee’s answer is even worse than you might have expected. According to Lynwood Times reporter Luke Putvin, “For those businesses/individuals that don’t comply, the governor stated that he confirmed with Attorney General Bob Ferguson, there will be sanctions in civil or criminal court.”

So, everybody who has ever been in contact with anyone who has tested positive for the Chinese v***s will be contacted by someone in government and ordered to submit to a C****av***s test. If an individual does not comply, the governor has made it clear he will send the authorities after you to haul you off to jail.

Bob Ferguson, you may recall, is the same tyrant who tried to send great-grandmother Baronelle Stutzman to prison, take everything she owned, and leave her stranded at the curb outside her own house in her pajamas. Her crime? She politely refused to do a floral arrangement for a homosexual wedding. So, when Bob Ferguson says there will be “civil or criminal sanctions” for people who don’t comply, you can take that to the bank.

From the standpoint of the federal Constitution, it should be clear that an American citizen cannot be required to submit to an invasive medical procedure without a warrant. Sticking a six-inch Q-tip up somebody’s nose would qualify as invasive in anybody’s book. The Fourth Amendment guarantees everybody the right to be “secure in their persons” against “unreasonable searches and seizures” and “no warrants shall issue but upon probable cause.”

The C***D test involves both a “search” for bodily secretions and a “seizure” of the same. That cannot happen under the Constitution without a warrant. Are judges ready to sign off on invasion of privacy warrants for possibly every single person who lives in the state of Washington?

The Washington state constitution (Article I, Section 7) says “No person shall be disturbed in his private affairs, or his home invaded, without authority of law.” Well, in dealing with C***D, we don’t have a law in Washington that compels people to submit to invasive medical procedures against their will, we have only an autocratic decree by a regressive and power-hungry governor which does not carry the force of law. It still looks from here like authorities are going to have to get a warrant before they start sticking Q-tips into people’s nasal cavities without permission.

So, this is Democrat Governor Inslee’s vision of good public policy. You will get a call from a nameless government employee telling you that you've been exposed to someone who's C****-** positive. You will not be told who that person is – why, that would be an invasion of privacy! But you and your entire family will be ordered to stay inside your house for 14 days and not allowed to leave, even to go to the grocery store or the pharmacy.

You will not be permitted to leave your house until you test negative. Some other bureaucrat from the government will check in on you during your incarceration-in-place sentence, get groceries for you "in some fashion," and go to the pharmacy for you. He might even be somebody from the National Guard. They run out of people to do that? You go hungry.

For proximity-based contact tracing to work, numerous obstacles must be overcome. First, a majority of the population needs to own smartphones. Then they must all voluntarily download and use the app. (In tech-happy, Singapore, only about 33% of folks have signed up to use the tracing app. In Utah, only one percent of the population has signed up.) People would always need to carry their phones with them, be sure they are always turned on, and be sure they have remembered to activate Bluetooth.

As one tech expert explained, even if 10% of the population used a contact-tracing app — a rate typically achieved only with hugely popular apps — just 1% of contacts would be discovered this way, given that both people need to be using the tool.

The reality is that there are massive invasion of privacy issues involved here that the American people are simply not going to put up with. Contact tracing done right requires the government to track everybody’s movements all of the time everywhere they go. This is so that everybody who has been within six feet of any infected person for more than 15 minutes can be fingered and tracked down. That’s a big fat, “No thanks.”

Here’s a follow-up question. The government is pressing ahead with a Manhattan-Project-type effort to develop a v*****e, with a lot of money from Bill Gates. Bill Gates has admitted that upwards of 700,000 people could be injured or die from a v*****e. If the v*****e is developed, will Governor Inslee order his citizens to get v******ted or face imprisonment? If he’ll do something like that in connection with the problem, why wouldn’t he do something like that in connection with the solution?

Ronald Reagan once uttered these perceptive words: "One of the traditional methods of imposing statism or socialism on a people has been by way of medicine. It's very easy to disguise a medical program as a humanitarian project."

And beyond all that, writes Betsy McCaughey, a former lieutenant governor of New York, “A mountain of scientific evidence indicates contact tracing won’t work against the c****av***s. And given the v***s’ nature, deploying it earlier probably wouldn’t have stopped the spread.”

Some states are already trying the misbegotten contact tracing idea. One of the quite practical problems they’ve run into is that people think the call from the government worker bee is spam and they refuse to answer.

I’m reminded of something C.S. Lewis once wrote:

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”

You want to see what that kind of tyranny looks like in action, take a trip to the state of Washington. On second thought, don’t. The governor may not let you leave.
b Washington Governor Jay Inslee: Submit or Starv... (show quote)


So another Democrat is behaving like a Democrat. Who would have thunk it ?

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May 19, 2020 04:02:50   #
2bltap Loc: Move to the Mainland
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Interesting article...

I find myself agreeing with the concerns regarding rights...

But in all honesty, if you knew you had come into contact with a carrier wouldn't you want to be tested?


Hey brother I enjoy your posts but I do have to say that in my opinion you are way to concerned stuff you should have no concern about. I mean common your own statement just looked like that if a person actually has to be concerned about actually taking a chances in life like driving a car or walking down the street or for that matter just breathing might be a risk. That's how people have done things for thousands of years. They wake up go outside and take what ever chances they must. I'm sorry Bro but it really looks like your to concerned about living. Every single day a person goes out into the public they take chances of getting run over or having an accident in the their vehicle or just breathing for that matter. If people want to live their lives like that then doom on them as they will continuously be afraid of every damn thing. Not a very happy way to live life.

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May 19, 2020 06:03:14   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
2bltap wrote:
Hey brother I enjoy your posts but I do have to say that in my opinion you are way to concerned stuff you should have no concern about. I mean common your own statement just looked like that if a person actually has to be concerned about actually taking a chances in life like driving a car or walking down the street or for that matter just breathing might be a risk. That's how people have done things for thousands of years. They wake up go outside and take what ever chances they must. I'm sorry Bro but it really looks like your to concerned about living. Every single day a person goes out into the public they take chances of getting run over or having an accident in the their vehicle or just breathing for that matter. If people want to live their lives like that then doom on them as they will continuously be afraid of every damn thing. Not a very happy way to live life.
Hey brother I enjoy your posts but I do have to sa... (show quote)


Chuckle.... Perhaps... Most who know me would disagree... Although I am very concerned about this p******c... Wasn't in the beginning... Everything seemed fine... A few sacrifices were required temporarily... But then it hit the West... Pretty brutal...

Day to day I have little fear of death... I try to stay good with the Lord and lead a decently healthy life... Don't stress out about too much...

I'm the kind of guy who dusts off food when he drops it... Or takes a second chug to be sure if the beer tastes funny... I am required to have a yearly check up, but other than that I tend to avoid hospitals and doctors...

Live healthy, be happy, die content....

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May 19, 2020 17:24:02   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
teabag09 wrote:
DOES ANYONE NOTICE THAT THESE CRIMOCRATE GOVENORS ARE GOING TO GET PEOPLE SHOT? I will NOT be confined to my home. I've over the years stockpiled enough food, water and means to cook to last a long time, oh, as well as TP, but I don't give a F if it's the Governor of my State of Va., or it's the President of the United States,(which he won't), I will not be jailed in my home. I will gladly give my life and go to war with these bastards first.

The people acting as experts for the most part are full of S**T and all of their predictions have been WRONG!

GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH! I've not begin to FIGHT! Those who would trade security for liberty deserve neither. I need a hair cut and a mani. Girls, most guys won't understand the last. Mike
DOES ANYONE NOTICE THAT THESE CRIMOCRATE GOVENORS ... (show quote)


The governor won't be shot, it'll be the misguided policeman who knocks on your door trying to enforce the governor's edict, which is clearly unconstitutional and shouldn't be obeyed by anyone. He can't lock everyone up. There isn't enough space. If he has enough people locked up, he'll be run out of office, tarred and feathered. Maybe that's what he needs to happen to him? Otherwise, he'll always believe he owns you.

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May 25, 2020 15:37:54   #
GmanTerry
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Has any one noticed that the tyrannical anti- constitution overeaches are being done by Democrats?Just a small preview of what to expect if they get full control.


That is so true.

Semper Fi

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