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May 18, 2020 14:25:27   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 
I'm having a hard time, considering these are accepted as safe, understanding why folks think v****g by mail is not safe. Also take into account some states, including Oregon, have been v**e by mail for a long time. Even the U.S. military has v**e by mail.



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May 18, 2020 14:31:24   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
PaulPisces wrote:
I'm having a hard time, considering these are accepted as safe, understanding why folks think v****g by mail is not safe. Also take into account some states, including Oregon, have been v**e by mail for a long time. Even the U.S. military has v**e by mail.


It is safe as far as the v***s is concerned. It is very much open to fraud and intimidation. I am sure you won't get it. I h**e any v****g by mail except for the military, Americans over seas, elderly and handicapped. Good Lord, if you can stand in lines for Toilet Paper you should be willing to stand in line to do something as important as v**e.

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May 18, 2020 14:35:18   #
woodguru
 
PaulPisces wrote:
I'm having a hard time, considering these are accepted as safe, understanding why folks think v****g by mail is not safe. Also take into account some states, including Oregon, have been v**e by mail for a long time. Even the U.S. military has v**e by mail.


The right, prone to fully embracing blathering right wing rhetoric, can't connect the fact that republicans do a lot of v****g by mail, especially in rural areas. They then freak at the idea of not being able to make people stand in lines for hours after they have so creatively cut polling places, hours, and days. If an e******n board sees lines in an e******n that take hours longer than reasonable, they have a duty to put on extra polling places, increase hours and or days, and do wh**ever it takes to reduce these wait times. There are states that have seen totally ridiculous wait times and the then go on to make it worse for the next e******ns.

It is as safe as the integrity of how people r******r to v**e. I have never had to show a passport or birth certificate, a driver's license has been fine.

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May 18, 2020 14:47:08   #
77Reaganite Loc: Athens, GA, United States
 
PaulPisces wrote:
I'm having a hard time, considering these are accepted as safe, understanding why folks think v****g by mail is not safe. Also take into account some states, including Oregon, have been v**e by mail for a long time. Even the U.S. military has v**e by mail.


Yeah but it doesn't need to be state Wide it may good for some states but,not all

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May 18, 2020 15:19:35   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 
JFlorio wrote:
It is safe as far as the v***s is concerned. It is very much open to fraud and intimidation. I am sure you won't get it. I h**e any v****g by mail except for the military, Americans over seas, elderly and handicapped. Good Lord, if you can stand in lines for Toilet Paper you should be willing to stand in line to do something as important as v**e.


It seems that in the 3 states that distribute b****ts by mail, most v**ers return them to a physical location.
And of the ones that returned by mail, a big chunk took them to the post office. This seems safe to me.

https://e******nlab.mit.edu/research/v****g-mail-and-absentee-v****g





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May 18, 2020 15:40:36   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Didn’t thin you’d get it.
PaulPisces wrote:
It seems that in the 3 states that distribute b****ts by mail, most v**ers return them to a physical location.
And of the ones that returned by mail, a big chunk took them to the post office. This seems safe to me.

https://e******nlab.mit.edu/research/v****g-mail-and-absentee-v****g

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May 18, 2020 16:00:11   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 
JFlorio wrote:
Didn’t thin you’d get it.


Well, I didn’t really expect you to respond with facts, so we’re kind of both in the same position.

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May 18, 2020 16:58:58   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
PaulPisces wrote:
I'm having a hard time, considering these are accepted as safe, understanding why folks think v****g by mail is not safe. Also take into account some states, including Oregon, have been v**e by mail for a long time. Even the U.S. military has v**e by mail.


It isn't about safety, it's the fact that repubs can't affect the number of people who v**e. V****g by mail would let EVERYBODY v**e.........................and we can't have that.

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May 18, 2020 18:31:40   #
ImLogicallyRight
 
lpnmajor wrote:
It isn't about safety, it's the fact that repubs can't affect the number of people who v**e. V****g by mail would let EVERYBODY v**e.........................and we can't have that.


It is about safety and v****g integrity having everyone actually go to the polls to v**e, with photo v**ers I. D. And those that can't, like military over seas or people on vacations or undergoing surgery, etc, should have to apply to the e******n board in advance and prove who they are with their request for absentee v****g. No early v****g for two good reasons. One, early v****g reports for certain areas would tend to influence those that haven't v**ed yet as to whether to bother because of turnout predicting outcomes before v****g day. Two, sometimes people die or drop out and this skews the results for those that are still in the race and creates an unf**r e******n. Another reason against all mail in v****g is the fact that Democrats could find and use many ways to c***t with people v****g that already moved, or are dead, or can't prove who they are. They have done this in the past. The list wound go on, like harvesting b****ts, helping people in their homes to fill out their b****ts.

***V****g by mail would let EVERYBODY v**e....
>>>including those without a right to v**e or the freedom to v**e unassisted in private picking those of their own choosing and the list goes on.........
***.............and we can't have that.

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May 18, 2020 19:32:36   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 
ImLogicallyRight wrote:
It is about safety and v****g integrity having everyone actually go to the polls to v**e, with photo v**ers I. D. And those that can't, like military over seas or people on vacations or undergoing surgery, etc, should have to apply to the e******n board in advance and prove who they are with their request for absentee v****g. No early v****g for two good reasons. One, early v****g reports for certain areas would tend to influence those that haven't v**ed yet as to whether to bother because of turnout predicting outcomes before v****g day. Two, sometimes people die or drop out and this skews the results for those that are still in the race and creates an unf**r e******n. Another reason against all mail in v****g is the fact that Democrats could find and use many ways to c***t with people v****g that already moved, or are dead, or can't prove who they are. They have done this in the past. The list wound go on, like harvesting b****ts, helping people in their homes to fill out their b****ts.

***V****g by mail would let EVERYBODY v**e....
>>>including those without a right to v**e or the freedom to v**e unassisted in private picking those of their own choosing and the list goes on.........
***.............and we can't have that.
It is about safety and v****g integrity having eve... (show quote)



The amount of v***r f***d is practically non-existent, from a statistical POV.
The right has consistently rn around screaming about a v**er ID problem that does not exist.


http://v**erfraudfacts.com/



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May 18, 2020 19:37:23   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
PaulPisces wrote:
The amount of v***r f***d is practically non-existent, from a statistical POV.
The right has consistently rn around screaming about a v**er ID problem that does not exist.


http://v**erfraudfacts.com/


That’s pretty much a non proven statistic. Most v***r f***d isn’t prosecuted. It’s hard and expensive to prove. I do know b****t harvesting should never be allowed and v****g in person, with v**er I.D. should make most confident in the e******n results.

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May 18, 2020 19:46:26   #
77Reaganite Loc: Athens, GA, United States
 
JFlorio wrote:
That’s pretty much a non proven statistic. Most v***r f***d isn’t prosecuted. It’s hard and expensive to prove. I do know b****t harvesting should never be allowed and v****g in person, with v**er I.D. should make most confident in the e******n results.


You know how you clean up v***r f***d the man that the blue States clean off their v**er rolls and make people have to prove that they live in the state that they are v****g in! They should not be able to v**e in two different states! Also in the blue States they need to do away with v**er busing

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May 18, 2020 22:30:23   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 
JFlorio wrote:
That’s pretty much a non proven statistic. Most v***r f***d isn’t prosecuted. It’s hard and expensive to prove. I do know b****t harvesting should never be allowed and v****g in person, with v**er I.D. should make most confident in the e******n results.


You are speculating, and with no basis.
If you know most v***r f***d is not prosecuted then you must know about the amount of v***r f***d there is.
If you have evidence of this please share it with us all.

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May 18, 2020 22:46:31   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
PaulPisces wrote:
You are speculating, and with no basis.
If you know most v***r f***d is not prosecuted then you must know about the amount of v***r f***d there is.
If you have evidence of this please share it with us all.


https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/5/v**er-fraud-is-real-and-its-happening-now/

https://thefederalist.com/2018/12/14/b****t-harvesting-became-new-way-steal-e******n/

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May 19, 2020 00:22:01   #
ImLogicallyRight
 
PaulPisces wrote:
The amount of v***r f***d is practically non-existent, from a statistical POV.
The right has consistently rn around screaming about a v**er ID problem that does not exist.


http://v**erfraudfacts.com/


Funny just the other day I read about all of those areas in So. Cal where there were more people registered to v**e then actually lived there. But of course no one mis uses that. Yeah sure. It isn't about the amount of v***r f***d, it is that there is just enough to flip an e******n. I'd tell you about this bridge I have for sale in Brooklyn, but I don't think you'd get it.

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