Mikeyavelli

Me and Trump never considered Obama as a president. Neither was Hillary.
Both are t*****rs. They need prosecutin.
Obama is a treasonous criminal. America can't survive with ignoring what happened. This wasn't a random innocent mistake.
This was an intricately formed international c**p that is ongoing to undo the e******n in 2016.
These t*****rs need to be prosecuted. The office of the President is not a license for crime.
Obama tried to remove Trump. Trump must fight back.

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

Blade, thanks for the clarification. I forgot about all of that during the Clinton Presidency. I don't know where I was when all that was happening. I was going through a lot of changes in my living situation, deaths in the family, and so forth and wasn't tuned in to what was happening. I agree that Obama and Hillary will not be prosecuted. For me, the most important thing is that this whole charade is exposed and the t***h revealed so that 50 years from now historians can put it all in perspective and it can serve as a warning to others if we still have a country at that time.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Sorry, pal, they may be t*****rs in need of prosecution, but it ain't gonna happen. Obama and Hillary are not the first top level government officials in our history who have committed treason and gotten away with it, and they won't be the last.

Right now, t*****rs and anti-American scoundrels are all over the place, it's a target rich environment. And obviously every one of the SOBs do not consider Trump as president.

Our first priority, the critical one, is to defeat the Socialist Progressive movement, the one that is charging ahead leaving Obama and Hillary in its dust. Prosecuting a couple of waylaid t*****rs isn't going to accomplish squat.

First item on the list is to clean out FBI corruption, that agency is meant to be the strong arm of the DOJ, an impartial and fair federal law enforcement agency has the chops to take the investigations into the deepest pits of government corruption.

AG Barr just signaled that things are about to get ugly for the Russia collusion team

By Kevin R. Brock. 04/13/2020

Brock was the former assistant director of intelligence for the FBI, was an FBI special agent for 24 years and principal deputy director of the National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC). He is a founder and principal of NewStreet Global Solutions, which consults with private companies and public-safety agencies on strategic mission technologies.

“Travesty” is not a nice word. It usually is applied to gross perversions of justice, and that apparently is the context Attorney General William Barr desired when he dropped it into an interview answer the other day in the breezy courtyard of the Department of Justice (DOJ).

His composed, understated delivery almost disguised the weighty magnitude of that disturbing word and the loaded adjective that preceded it. “I think what happened to him,” he said, referring to the president and the FBI’s counterintelligence investigation into his campaign, “was one of the greatest travesties in American history.”

Okay, it’s important to pause for a moment and absorb what the AG said. He just called an FBI investigation not just a travesty but one of the “greatest” travesties in the nation’s history. It was an unprecedented statement by an attorney general about his own department’s premier agency.

The FBI has made plenty of mistakes, but never in its 112-year history has an FBI investigation been characterized as a travesty, let alone one that equates to other hall-of-fame travesties in American history.

Is the AG’s assessment fair? The answer is entwined in his next statement: “Without any basis [the FBI] started this investigation into [Donald Trump’s] campaign ... .”

Oops, stop again right there. Mr. Barr is making a definitive statement about that which many of us have speculated all along, namely that the weirdly unprecedented investigative team put together by former FBI Director James Comey and Deputy Director Andrew McCabe did not have adequate legal reasons to open a case into the Trump campaign in the first place. The attorney general just confirmed that.

But wait a minute, doesn’t that directly contradict DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz’s assertion that the FBI’s counterintelligence investigation was justified?

Two things to keep in mind regarding that inconsistency.

First, remember that IG Horowitz reached two primary and controversial conclusions: 1) that there was adequate justification for starting the investigation, and 2) that there was no “evidence” of political bias as a motivating factor for the investigation. He based his conclusions, according to his report, solely on his interviews of the FBI individuals who started and ran the case — from Mr. Comey on down. That’s our story, they all said, and we’re stickin’ to it.

This would be like an FBI agent interviewing four subjects suspected of robbing a bank and, after hearing their denials, concluding there was no evidence they committed the crime.

In fairness, the IG is not a criminal investigator and certainly not steeped in counterintelligence matters. The attorney general, on the other hand, owns the Attorney General Guidelines that dictate what it takes to initiate an FBI investigation, particularly of an American citizen. He is the ultimate arbiter.

Which leads to the second point: The AG is logically being briefed on the progress and findings of U.S. Attorney John Durham’s investigation, which he commissioned to examine how the empty Russia collusion case got started in the first place and if it involved any wrongdoing on the part of the government. It is a safe bet that Mr. Durham is collecting evidence beyond the self-serving statements of the FBI principals involved. It also is now a safe bet that his findings will respectfully disagree with Mr. Horowitz’s.

Attorney General Barr communicates in a clear, understandable, calm-as-a-summer-evening manner uncommon in Washington. He undoubtedly did not get to his current position without being a sk**led litigator, whose first rule is never make a statement to the court that you can’t back up. His newsworthy claim that there was zero basis for the FBI’s investigation stands, in all probability, on a mound of — in his words — “troubling” evidence now in his possession.

Many in the media immediately sputtered that the FBI was certainly justified because Trump campaign third-stringer George Papadopoulos told an Australian official, in a bar, that the Russians had email dirt on Hillary Clinton.

The media may wish that Papadopoulos’s comment is sufficient justification to investigate a candidate for president, but it is not. An experienced Russia counterintelligence FBI agent would have recognized immediately that the Australian’s assertion, while moderately interesting for existing investigations of Russians, was not nearly enough to open an invasive investigation of American citizens.

The biased, overeager Comey and McCabe, however, opened an unprecedented full-blown investigation into a p**********l campaign. Worse, Durham possibly will show that the Comey team started involving itself in questionable intelligence community activities that improperly ran confidential sources against Papadopoulos well before they officially opened a case — a potentially big no-no that, if proven, will not go well for all involved.

That is especially true in light of what the AG went on to say during his interview. He likened the Comey team’s inappropriate investigation and subsequent fallout to sabotage, or the effects of sabotage. “Sabotage” is another powerful word, technically a wartime crime, but a useful metaphor in its ramifications, since it implicates a range of supporting crimes such as conspiracy, fraud, perjury and false statements.

The AG then ominously stated that he is not interested in simply receiving a “report” from Durham. He expects him to focus on possible criminal violations: “And if people broke the law, and we can establish that with the evidence, they will be prosecuted.”

These are incredibly hopeful words to many Americans who have come to believe — after the 2008 Wall Street-driven financial collapse, after the numerous Clinton family schemes and scandals, and after the wasteful Mueller “investigation” — that the powerful are never held accountable.

This is an attorney general projecting an air of confidence, not afraid to speak t***h to slippery politicians even though the pushback will be fierce and personal. In light of that, it’s hard to imagine his confidence isn’t buttressed with mounting evidence of abusive government actions.

This is what the Durham investigation could well conclude: A group of people aligned with or sympathetic to one political party conspired to illicitly use the authorities of the FBI to besmirch the opposing party’s p**********l candidate — and that every effort should be made to indict those who can be charged as a result.

If true, such a thing has never happened before. It would represent a direct, unprecedented attack on our democracy, to fraudulently influence the v****g public with lies ostensibly emanating as facts from a noble, traditionally trusted FBI. And that, indeed, would be a travesty of historical significance. One never to be repeated, we can hope, against any future president of either party.

Mikeyavelli

Lemme buy you a beer.
I have no confidence at all in Bush Boy Barr. Trump should send him back to his lily pad in the Bush Family Pond.

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

Well said and excellent analysis. The interesting thing under our system is the presumption of innocence until guilt has been proven. The FBI acted under a presumption of guilt and looked only for evidence to support that conclusion and ignoring exculpatory evidence. The burden of proof by the government was shifted to the accuse to prove their innocence. Safeguards for every American have been weakened as a result. The Obama administration's militarization of various government agencies against its own citizens and conservative groups for political purposes (IRS for example) is one of the highest abuses of power that results when accountability is thrown out the window. Those who wanted to change America forever into something it was never intended to be tried to stifled conservatism and conservative voices by using our own system of laws to protect themselves while operating under a double standard; they acted above the law as if it doesn't apply to them. The t***h and the complete t***h needs to be uncovered for every American to clearly see so that it can never be again repeated. But it will. The thirst for power and control is a strong innate desire in many people. Given the opportunity, most will succumb to it. "Power corrupts, absolutely corrupts absolutely." - Lord Acton.

Mikeyavelli

Well said, but the corruption is hidden in the form of preened justice posed by the likes of Bush Boy Barr and Horowitz and even Durham.
At best, a fix of the system so that no Republican could ever pull the same trick on a Democrat.
These treasons will go unprosecuted, mildly criticized, and the walls will be built to see that "this never happens again".
Sickening.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Your "Bush Boy Barr" obsession is apparently nothing more than a caricature of him you've created to assuage your insecurities, misgivings, and distrust of our system of government, and shows a lack of faith in president Trump.

I don't know how you missed it, but the doors to government corruption have been blown wide open, and though much of it is not yet seen, we know it is there. It is just a matter of time.

For there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; neither hid, that shall not be known.
Luke 12: 2

Mikeyavelli

Trump should send Barr back to his lily pad in Bush Pond.
I'm tired of his obfuscating and obstructions and his loyalty to the Deep State.
We need a new Attorney General, now.

Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio

He’s still trying to appoint a food taster!

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

There's a job you are qualified for.