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Apr 30, 2020 10:32:29   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
People, we have been given basically two choices for millions of Americans. Stay in lockdown until a v*****e is developed. Risking poverty for millions, or open up using common sense and let the people begin to get a herd immunity. That is what I believe we need to do.

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Apr 30, 2020 10:43:21   #
American Vet
 
JFlorio wrote:
People, we have been given basically two choices for millions of Americans. Stay in lockdown until a v*****e is developed. Risking poverty for millions, or open up using common sense and let the people begin to get a herd immunity. That is what I believe we need to do.


It will be risking a lot more than poverty, and for a lot more than just us. This will have an impact for several generations.

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Apr 30, 2020 10:45:05   #
Sew_What
 
JFlorio wrote:
People, we have been given basically two choices for millions of Americans. Stay in lockdown until a v*****e is developed. Risking poverty for millions, or open up using common sense and let the people begin to get a herd immunity. That is what I believe we need to do.


...so I don't think you realize, that as soon as people lost their job....their mortgages and rent are still due, whether they used their government hand-out to buy food or medical care is anybody's business.

Let's say that people go back to work...and they get sick, even with company provided PPE.

Do you think that those people aren't going to sue those companies (assuming they recover)? What if the household requires two bread winners and they work in the same shop, business? And going to work as a single with young kids...then what...foster kids...and where are they going to send those kids. Good thing mom was forced to have two kids out of wedlock. And wh**ever state she came from can figure that one out.

Do you kind of get where I'm going with this...we still don't know who's most at risk and your dazed and confused frustration is characteristically reminiscent of someone who thinks they "got this".

We don't, stay home, figure how can help people in need and let the big dogs that we pay to fix this...fix this.

I'm sorry it is so hard to understand, I'm sorry that you don't like dealing with it...but maybe just maybe we might learn something from people that lived through the depression because it ain't over until it's over...what did FDR do to get the country moving again...

Better take a look at the number of zombie corporations that are being funded by the Federal Reserve Largess. Before making monkey brained comments.

The solution is obvious....the results of actually initiating the recovery are not. For the sake of argument, the depression is a template for how we're going to get out of this...CEO's and Wall Street didn't save jobs...it creates playground for people that will always have more money than you do.

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Apr 30, 2020 10:47:14   #
American Vet
 
Sew_What wrote:
...so I don't think you realize, that as soon as people lost their job....their mortgages and rent are still due, whether they used their government hand-out to buy food or medical care is anybody's business.

Let's say that people go back to work...and they get sick, even with company provided PPE.

Do you think that those people aren't going sue those companies? What if the household requires two bread winners and they work in the same shop, business?

Do you kind of get where I'm going with this...we still don't know who's most at risk and your dazed and confused frustration is characteristically reminiscent of someone who thinks they "got this".

We don't, stay home, figure how can help people in need and let the big dogs that we pay to fix this...fix this.

I'm sorry it is so hard to understand, I'm sorry that you don't like dealing with it...but maybe just maybe we might learn something from people that lived through the depression because it ain't over until it's over...what did FDR do to get the country moving again...

Better take a look at the number of zombie corporations that are being funded by the Federal Reserve Largess. Before making monkey brained comments.

The solution is obvious....the results of actually initiating the recovery are not. For the sake of argument, the depression is a template for how we're going to get out of this...CEO's and Wall Street didn't save jobs...it creates playground for people that will always have more money than you do.
...so I don't think you realize, that as soon as p... (show quote)


It is hard to understand because it is illogical.

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Apr 30, 2020 11:09:16   #
son of witless
 
Sew_What wrote:
...so I don't think you realize, that as soon as people lost their job....their mortgages and rent are still due, whether they used their government hand-out to buy food or medical care is anybody's business.

Let's say that people go back to work...and they get sick, even with company provided PPE.

Do you think that those people aren't going to sue those companies (assuming they recover)? What if the household requires two bread winners and they work in the same shop, business? And going to work as a single with young kids...then what...foster kids...and where are they going to send those kids. Good thing mom was forced to have two kids out of wedlock. And wh**ever state she came from can figure that one out.

Do you kind of get where I'm going with this...we still don't know who's most at risk and your dazed and confused frustration is characteristically reminiscent of someone who thinks they "got this".

We don't, stay home, figure how can help people in need and let the big dogs that we pay to fix this...fix this.

I'm sorry it is so hard to understand, I'm sorry that you don't like dealing with it...but maybe just maybe we might learn something from people that lived through the depression because it ain't over until it's over...what did FDR do to get the country moving again...

Better take a look at the number of zombie corporations that are being funded by the Federal Reserve Largess. Before making monkey brained comments.

The solution is obvious....the results of actually initiating the recovery are not. For the sake of argument, the depression is a template for how we're going to get out of this...CEO's and Wall Street didn't save jobs...it creates playground for people that will always have more money than you do.
...so I don't think you realize, that as soon as p... (show quote)


" We don't, stay home, figure how can help people in need and let the big dogs that we pay to fix this...fix this. "

The Big Dogs have their role, but they are not omnipotent. We may get a v*****e, maybe in 12-18 months, maybe never. Now that the initial first wave of the C****-** v***s has burned through the underbrush, there will be hidden hot spots that will flare up when we unlock the population, but people will figure it out.

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Apr 30, 2020 11:21:57   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Sew_What wrote:
...so I don't think you realize, that as soon as people lost their job....their mortgages and rent are still due, whether they used their government hand-out to buy food or medical care is anybody's business.

Let's say that people go back to work...and they get sick, even with company provided PPE.

Do you think that those people aren't going to sue those companies (assuming they recover)? What if the household requires two bread winners and they work in the same shop, business? And going to work as a single with young kids...then what...foster kids...and where are they going to send those kids. Good thing mom was forced to have two kids out of wedlock. And wh**ever state she came from can figure that one out.

Do you kind of get where I'm going with this...we still don't know who's most at risk and your dazed and confused frustration is characteristically reminiscent of someone who thinks they "got this".

We don't, stay home, figure how can help people in need and let the big dogs that we pay to fix this...fix this.

I'm sorry it is so hard to understand, I'm sorry that you don't like dealing with it...but maybe just maybe we might learn something from people that lived through the depression because it ain't over until it's over...what did FDR do to get the country moving again...

Better take a look at the number of zombie corporations that are being funded by the Federal Reserve Largess. Before making monkey brained comments.

The solution is obvious....the results of actually initiating the recovery are not. For the sake of argument, the depression is a template for how we're going to get out of this...CEO's and Wall Street didn't save jobs...it creates playground for people that will always have more money than you do.
...so I don't think you realize, that as soon as p... (show quote)


Your reading and comprehension sk**ls are sadly wanting. I realize way more, apparently than you do. funded is not the same as loans dillweed. If people go back to work, some will get sick. Legislation is already being introduced to limit law suits related to C***d. As it should be. We do know who is most at risk. Guess you flunked statistics. Big shocker there. I have plenty of money. This p******c effects me not at all. I don't have to leave my house for anything. Your stupid assumptions make you look even more clueless than you are. You of course, gave no substantive arguments on how to open back up. Just go back to trolling little kids, so you might seem smarter than a fifth grader.

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May 1, 2020 07:15:53   #
Kickaha Loc: Nebraska
 
Sew_What wrote:
...so I don't think you realize, that as soon as people lost their job....their mortgages and rent are still due, whether they used their government hand-out to buy food or medical care is anybody's business.

Let's say that people go back to work...and they get sick, even with company provided PPE.

Do you think that those people aren't going to sue those companies (assuming they recover)? What if the household requires two bread winners and they work in the same shop, business? And going to work as a single with young kids...then what...foster kids...and where are they going to send those kids. Good thing mom was forced to have two kids out of wedlock. And wh**ever state she came from can figure that one out.

Do you kind of get where I'm going with this...we still don't know who's most at risk and your dazed and confused frustration is characteristically reminiscent of someone who thinks they "got this".

We don't, stay home, figure how can help people in need and let the big dogs that we pay to fix this...fix this.

I'm sorry it is so hard to understand, I'm sorry that you don't like dealing with it...but maybe just maybe we might learn something from people that lived through the depression because it ain't over until it's over...what did FDR do to get the country moving again...

Better take a look at the number of zombie corporations that are being funded by the Federal Reserve Largess. Before making monkey brained comments.

The solution is obvious....the results of actually initiating the recovery are not. For the sake of argument, the depression is a template for how we're going to get out of this...CEO's and Wall Street didn't save jobs...it creates playground for people that will always have more money than you do.
...so I don't think you realize, that as soon as p... (show quote)

My job is considered essential and cannot be done remotely. I haven't missed a day of work. The company I work for has allowed anyone who doesn't feel comfortable coming to work to take a leave of absence without penalty. They have also instituted social distancing, enhanced cleaning, and offered masks to those who wanted them.

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May 1, 2020 16:51:06   #
elledee
 
Kickaha wrote:
My job is considered essential and cannot be done remotely. I haven't missed a day of work. The company I work for has allowed anyone who doesn't feel comfortable coming to work to take a leave of absence without penalty. They have also instituted social distancing, enhanced cleaning, and offered masks to those who wanted them.


simple and sensible.... all we need

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May 1, 2020 17:55:53   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
JFlorio wrote:
People, we have been given basically two choices for millions of Americans. Stay in lockdown until a v*****e is developed. Risking poverty for millions, or open up using common sense and let the people begin to get a herd immunity. That is what I believe we need to do.


I'm using the second option, we'll all get it at some time. So why be one of those 'the sky is falling, the sky is falling?' BTW when there is a v*****e, just say no. Or you can just open wide and say 666.

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May 1, 2020 17:56:59   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
American Vet wrote:
It will be risking a lot more than poverty, and for a lot more than just us. This will have an impact for several generations.


Agreed

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May 1, 2020 18:04:43   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
Sew_What wrote:
...so I don't think you realize, that as soon as people lost their job....their mortgages and rent are still due, whether they used their government hand-out to buy food or medical care is anybody's business.

Let's say that people go back to work...and they get sick, even with company provided PPE.

Do you think that those people aren't going to sue those companies (assuming they recover)? What if the household requires two bread winners and they work in the same shop, business? And going to work as a single with young kids...then what...foster kids...and where are they going to send those kids. Good thing mom was forced to have two kids out of wedlock. And wh**ever state she came from can figure that one out.

Do you kind of get where I'm going with this...we still don't know who's most at risk and your dazed and confused frustration is characteristically reminiscent of someone who thinks they "got this".

We don't, stay home, figure how can help people in need and let the big dogs that we pay to fix this...fix this.

I'm sorry it is so hard to understand, I'm sorry that you don't like dealing with it...but maybe just maybe we might learn something from people that lived through the depression because it ain't over until it's over...what did FDR do to get the country moving again...

Better take a look at the number of zombie corporations that are being funded by the Federal Reserve Largess. Before making monkey brained comments.

The solution is obvious....the results of actually initiating the recovery are not. For the sake of argument, the depression is a template for how we're going to get out of this...CEO's and Wall Street didn't save jobs...it creates playground for people that will always have more money than you do.
...so I don't think you realize, that as soon as p... (show quote)


Here's what I got. The beginning was blather (maybe that's your style ok). We get to the depression bit, which isn't relevant today unless you're a prepper. Zombie corps and the FED, some inside info. the Fed won't be there long. The last paragraph is what we're fighting against. Everyone knows they will have more money as long as things stay the same we're trying to change them.

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May 1, 2020 18:07:36   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
Kickaha wrote:
My job is considered essential and cannot be done remotely. I haven't missed a day of work. The company I work for has allowed anyone who doesn't feel comfortable coming to work to take a leave of absence without penalty. They have also instituted social distancing, enhanced cleaning, and offered masks to those who wanted them.


If a farmer is essential, I am.

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May 1, 2020 19:44:50   #
RamboJoe
 
Sew_What wrote:
...so I don't think you realize, that as soon as people lost their job....their mortgages and rent are still due, whether they used their government hand-out to buy food or medical care is anybody's business.

Let's say that people go back to work...and they get sick, even with company provided PPE.

Do you think that those people aren't going to sue those companies (assuming they recover)? What if the household requires two bread winners and they work in the same shop, business? And going to work as a single with young kids...then what...foster kids...and where are they going to send those kids. Good thing mom was forced to have two kids out of wedlock. And wh**ever state she came from can figure that one out.

Do you kind of get where I'm going with this...we still don't know who's most at risk and your dazed and confused frustration is characteristically reminiscent of someone who thinks they "got this".

We don't, stay home, figure how can help people in need and let the big dogs that we pay to fix this...fix this.

I'm sorry it is so hard to understand, I'm sorry that you don't like dealing with it...but maybe just maybe we might learn something from people that lived through the depression because it ain't over until it's over...what did FDR do to get the country moving again...

Better take a look at the number of zombie corporations that are being funded by the Federal Reserve Largess. Before making monkey brained comments.

The solution is obvious....the results of actually initiating the recovery are not. For the sake of argument, the depression is a template for how we're going to get out of this...CEO's and Wall Street didn't save jobs...it creates playground for people that will always have more money than you do.
...so I don't think you realize, that as soon as p... (show quote)


I do understand your point of view. But let's look at what is really going to happen here in the United States. Already we have State Officials abusing their power, telling citizens to stay home, business will not open, telling you where you can go and can't go, arresting people who violate the stay at home or inside the house rules, and many other rules for us to follow. The longer they control us with this "fear" of getting the v***s, the more rights they will take away and the more control over what we do and say will be enforced. Our economy will crumble as will our Nation. Our Government will then offer a solution of giving each subject (citizen) a check to help sustain them. Your quality of life as you now know it has just drastically changed. It gets better. Before long, the Government will offer you a job not of your choosing. There will be no promotions, no raises, and your work day will be 12-14 hours per day for that monthly Government check.
Is that the life you want for you and your family? That is what is going to happen, if we do not go back to work and open this country back up and save it. Look around you. Open your eyes. It is happening right now. This is why the Democrats are pushing for Lock Down. If you would like, there is a publication from the Rockefeller Foundation written in 2010 that talks about a Global Epidemic scenario and how it would be handled. The Deep State is applying that scenario playbook step by step right now. Want to know how it ends? Read this: www.nommeraadio.ee/meedia/pdf/RRS/Rockefeller%20Foundation.pdf

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May 1, 2020 23:13:03   #
Kazudy
 
JFlorio wrote:
People, we have been given basically two choices for millions of Americans. Stay in lockdown until a v*****e is developed. Risking poverty for millions, or open up using common sense and let the people begin to get a herd immunity. That is what I believe we need to do.


I agree with you 👍

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May 2, 2020 00:56:19   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
JFlorio wrote:
People, we have been given basically two choices for millions of Americans. Stay in lockdown until a v*****e is developed. Risking poverty for millions, or open up using common sense and let the people begin to get a herd immunity. That is what I believe we need to do.



Several experts claim that unlike the typical flu, Immunity does not prevent one from catching it a second time.

Dosen't it beg questions "what did our world's leaders hear, that caused over 184 of them to push their economy's into a depression with lock downs?

Experts are claiming they have found 2 HIV proteins in the C****a V***s

Now our world's experts have come forward claiming they have discovery of small pox elements in the C****a V***s.

It in many attacks the kidneys, heart, liver and lungs causing permanent damage in survivors and now it's believed that survivors have a severely limited life span because of how the v***s attacks organs.

And if there is no herd Immunity?
And no v*****e?
Then what?

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