Lt. Rob Polans ret.

WHO came up with shelter in place? Here is why I ask. Remember the troll who said "follow the facts, follow the science." lol do that and we'll be dead soon. Aleandra and I spoke to a scientist (follow the science, right?) Here you go.

Shelter-In-Place Is Weakening the I****e S****ms of Everyone Who Complies

Dr. Dan Erickson, owner of Accelerated Urgent Care clinics in Bakersfield, California is exasperated by the lockdown, finding it to be completely unnecessary and much more harmful than a disease that has a lower mortality rate to the annual flu.

He says that putting people who are not acutely ill on lockdown will have the effect of weakening their i****e s****ms. Further, by collapsing the small businesses, the loss of income is causing people to lose their dreams. People are turning to drugs and alcohol and there's been a noticeable spike in child abuse.

He says, "Does this make sense? Are we following the science? We keep hearing 'Following the science.' What is science, essentially? It's the study of the natural world through experiment, through observation. So, that's what we're doing. We're studying the disease around us or making observations; we're doing testing experiments to figure out exactly what's going on...

"Hospitals...they're shutting down floors, they're furloughing patients, they're furloughing doctors, so the health system has been evacuated in certain places.

"In New York, the health system is working at maximum capacity. In California, we're really at a minimal capacity, getting rid of our doctors and nurses, because we just don't have the volume...

"The initial models were were woefully inaccurate. They predicted millions of cases of death; not of prevalence or incidence - but death. That is not materializing.

"What is materializing in the state of California is 12% positives. We've seen 1,227 deaths in the state of California, with a possible incidence or prevalence of 4.7 million. That means you have a 0.03% chance of dying from C****-** in the state of California.

"I also wanted to mention that 96% of people in California who get C***D recover with almost no significant sequelae or no significant continuing medical problems.

"So, I want to look at New York State. They've been in the news a lot right, and their numbers are critical. Let's go over their numbers. Cases of C***D, as of yesterday, 256,272 cases in New York State...of 649,325. That's 39% of New Yorkers tested positive for C****-**.

That's their ratios. This is public data online. You can all look it up. How many deaths do they have: 19,410. Ten out of 19 million people, which is a 0.1% chance of dying from C***D in the state of New York - and they have a 92% recovery rate...

"USA. This is a big one for us: 802,560 as of yesterday gives us a 19.6% positive out of those who are tested so...If this is a typical extrapolation: 328 million people times 19.6 is 64 million. That's a significant amount of people with C****-**.

"It's similar to the flu. If you study the numbers in 2017 and 2018, we had 50 to 60 million with the flu and we had a similar death rate. In the United States, there were 43,545, similar to the flu of 2017-2018.

"We have always had between 37,000-60,000 deaths in the United States, every single year. No p******c talk. No shelter-in-place. No shutting down businesses. No sending doctors home.

"C****-** is one aspect of our health sector. What has it caused to have us be involved in social isolation...Child molestation is increasing at a severe rate. We could go over multiple cases of children who have been molested, due to angry family members who are intoxicated, who are home, who have no paycheck.

"These things last a lifetime. This isn't about a seasonal flu. These are things that will follow these people and affect them in a negative fashion for their life and these are secondary effects from C***D...

"Talking to EMS, talking to my doctors and talking to people across the country and finding out what they're seeing: spousal abuse. We see people coming in here with black eyes and cuts on their face. It's an obvious abusive case. These are things that will affect them for a lifetime, not for a season.

"Alcoholism, anxiety, depression, suicide. I've talked to Donna Youngblood and various people in the community. I've asked them how are things going? Suicide is spiking, education has dropped off, economic collapse of the medical industry. We're all suffering because our staff isn't here and we have no volume.

"These are all real things that I'm seeing every day. I don't read about this stuff. I'm seeing it in my clinics. We have clinics from Fresno to San Diego and these things are spiking in our community. These things will affect people for a lifetime, not for a season.

"So, let's let's make sure we're clear, that you've got all the statistics now. I want to compare flu v***s. Is this significantly different? Deaths, per the CDC: 24,000 to 62,000 deaths each year. We had about 45 million total cases in 2017, with about 62,000 deaths or a 0.13% chance of death from flu in the United States. As you know, our other numbers were 0.02%. So, the lethality of C****-** is much less.

"Then, when you when you bring up a system of lockdown, you'll automatically have to compare it to a system of no lockdown.

"The i****e s****m is built by exposure to antigens, v***ses, bacteria. When you're a little child, crawling on the ground, putting stuff in your mouth, v***ses and bacteria come in, you form an antigen antibody complex...this is how your i****e s****m is built.

"You don't take a small child, put them in bubble-wrap in a room and say, 'Go have a healthy i****e s****m!' This is Immunology/Microbiology 101.

"What I'm seeing is when you take human beings and you say, 'Go into your house, clean all your counters, Lysol them down, you're gonna k**l 99% of v***ses and bacteria, wear a mask, don't go outside' - what does it do?

"Our i****e s****m is used to touching. We share bacteria; staphylococcus, streptococcal bacteria, v***ses, we develop an immune response daily to this stuff. When you take that away from me, my i****e s****m drops.

"As I shelter in place, my i****e s****m drops. You keep me there for months, it drops more and now I'm at home, hand-washing, vigorously washing the counters, worried about things that I need to do to survive.

"When the child is in a womb, you're in this protected environment. When you come out, you have almost no i****e s****m. You develop that through touching your mouth, touching your eyes; bacterial v***s immune response; IgG IgM. This is how you build a strong i****e s****m.

"Sheltering in place decreases your i****e s****m and then, as we all come out of shelter-in-place with a lower i****e s****m and start trading v***ses, bacteria - what do you think is going to happen? Disease is gonna spike and then you've got a disease spike amongst the hospital system - with furloughed doctors and nurses!

"This is not the combination want to set up for a healthy society, as your mask that you're wearing for days, you touch the outside of it, C***D and then touch your mouth.

"This doesn't make any sense. We wear masks in an acute setting, to protect us. We're not wearing masks. Why is that? Because we understand microbiology. We understand immunology and we want strong i****e s****ms.

"I don't want to hide in my home, develop a weak i****e s****m and then come out and get disease. We have both been in the ER, through Swine Flu and through Bird Flu. Did we shut down for those? Were they much less dangerous than C***D? Is the flu less dangerous than C***D?

"Let's look at the death rates. No, it's not. And what's interesting to me, too is when someone dies in this country, right, now they're not talking about the high blood pressure, the diabetes, the stroke. They say, 'Did they die from C***D?'

"As you've been to hundreds of autopsies, you don't talk about one thing, you talk about co-morbidities: their vessels were narrowed, their lungs were of a smoker. C***D was part of it. It is not the reason they died, folks. It is one of many reasons.

"So, to be so simplistic, to say that's a 'C***D death', because they have C***D. You know how many people die with pneumonia or people that die from flu - with flu, I should say. It's not from flu. Their lungs were c*********d by COPD, they had a heart attack two years ago, they have a weakened body.

"We aren't pressured to test for flu but ER doctors, my friends I talk to say, 'You know, it's interesting, when I'm writing up my death report, I'm being pressured to add C***D.'

"Why is that? Why are we being pressured to add C***D? To maybe increase the numbers and make it look a little bit worse than it is? I think so.

"When I look at the the basic tenets that we know of microbiology and I say, do we need to still shelter in place? Our answer is emphatically, no. Do we need businesses to be shut down? Emphatically, no. Do we need to test them and get them back to work? Yes, we do.

"The secondary effects that we went over; the child abuse, alcoholism, loss of revenue - all these are, in our opinion a significantly more detrimental thing to society than a v***s that has proven similar in nature to the seasonal flu we have every year.

"We need to make sure if you're gonna dance on someone's Constitutional Rights, you better have a good reason. You better have a really good, scientific reason and not just theory.

"One of the most important things that we need are our hospitals back up. We need our furloughed doctors back. We need our nurses back. Because, when we lift this thing, we're gonna need all hands on deck.

"I know the local hospitals have closed two floors. Folks, that's not the situation you want. We're essentially setting ourselves up to have minimal staff and we're going to have significant disease. That's the wrong combination.

"I've been working with some of the leaders and I've talked to the head of the CDPH. I've gotten their opinion on this and a lot of the leaders in Sacramento and we're all in agreement but we need to have Governor Newsom in agreement with us to lift this ban.

"I've talked to our local head of the health department and he's waiting for that, even though they're in agreement with me. They're waiting for the powers that be to lift, because the data is showing us it's time to lift. So, if we don't lift, what is the reason?

"I can go into Sully's right now, which I did this morning. There were 25 people in there and I can stand in line for 10 minutes but I can't go in Café Rio and sit there for 10 minutes. Does that make sense to you guys?

"And I think I can go into Costco and I can shop with people and there's probably a couple hundred people - but I can't go in Café Rio. So, big businesses are open, little businesses are not. There's no science behind that, as we've gone over - that is not science.

"There's other factors in play, that we don't have time to go into but it's not science. I want to make that clear."

Understand the science? You're slowly k*****g your i****e s****m. Wait 6-8 weeks for death? No thank you. Those in high risk groups yes stay in, but others, it's a beautiful world and the economy needs you.

Carol Kelly

My i****e s****m was so low that I’ve been put on IVIG infusions. My bronchiectasis is so advanced that I’m advised to stay indoors where the air is
controlled. My kidney disease is at the top of stage 3, any higher and it’s dialysis for me. So, while most of this applies to most people, it doesn’t apply to all people. I’m certain your effort here has been very helpful for most. Thank you for sharing.

Skiladi

Much sense in what you say.?.

Skiladi

Very similar to using anti bacterial soap. Ordinary soap does the job,without destroying your immunity.

Sicilianthing

A lot of this stuff has already gone around and seen it in several articles, Thank You for putting it here.

There are also several like it from other patriots.

Carol Kelly

Too true and less drying.

Sew_What

Here is response from a military intelligence historian: “Intelligence in War”-John Keegan

The intelligence services of all states originated, nonetheless, in the efforts to avert an enemy’s achieving a military advantage but to achieve military advantage in return. In peacetime, intelligence services may merely tick over. In war, they are supposed to bring victory. How effective are they? How do they-or how do they fail-to do it? There are five fundamental stages.

1. Acquisition. Intelligence has to be found. It may be readily available in published but overlooked form. Do not waste effort in seeking information which may freely be found in newspapers, scholarly journals or academic monographs. As a general principle, however, it may be taken that information useful to an opponent is what may be called “secret” and has to be collected by clandestine means. The most usual methods are spying, in all its forms, now technically known as “intelligence” by surveillance.
2. Delivery. Intelligence once collected has to be sent to its potential user. Delivery is often the most difficult stage, particularly for the t***smitter of intelligence. Moreover, the sender is always under the pressure of urgency. Intelligence goes stale or is overtaken by events. Unless sent in timely fashion, preferably in “real time”, which allows it to be acted upon, it loses its value.
3. Acceptance. Intelligence has to be believed. Agents who volunteer their services have to establish their credentials; they may be a plant. One’s own operatives may have been turned or may have fallen under the control of an opponent’s counter-espionage service. Even what they honestly offer may be wrong or only half true. Intercepts appear more dependable, but they may be bogus. Even if not, they can tell only part of the t***h. Henry Stemson, American Secretary of State, rightly warned of the difference between reading a man’s mail and reading his mind.
4. Interpretation. Most intelligence comes in scraps. For a complete canvas to be assembled the scraps have to be pieced together into whole cloth. That often requires the effort of many experts, who will have difficulty in explaining to each other what they understand by individual clues and who will disagree over the relative importance. Ultimately the assembly of a complete picture may require a superior to make an inspired guess, which may or may not be correct.
5. Implementation. Intelligence officer work as a subordinate level; just as they have to be convinced of the reliability of their raw material, so they have to convince the decision-makers, political chiefs and commanders in the field of the reliability of their submissions. There is no such thing as the golden secret, the piece of “pure intelligence,” which will resolve all doubt and guide a general or admiral to an infallible solution of his operational problem. Not only is all intelligence less that completely accurate; its value is altered by the unrolling of events. No intelligence assessment, however sold its foundation, fully survives the test of action.

Sicilianthing

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Whattabuncha CRAP!

We’re essentially at war already on many fronts...no shots have been fired but it’s coming...


The American Gift, The Constitution, Bill of Rights, Declarations, Pillars, Ethos, Foundation are all Perfect and Never to be tested or interpreted by the likes of Keegan or anyone else.

Lt. Rob Polans ret.

I know, I'm ready and waiting.

Sicilianthing

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I can’t believe the s**t these governors are talking now... it’s like we’re in the Twilight Zone or something...

Like Ground Hog everyday... it’ just keeps going and going and going on, over and over and over again...the same s**t repeated

Then Trump is even going along with it now cause they’ve got him in a pickle he can’t get out of !

Lt. Rob Polans ret.

This has gotten to the point of not quite k**l or be k**led but be ready to. All around on f*****t book, here and many places different m*****as are springing up,III, Oathkeepers and others. Governors, are going to get a stunning surprise when people no longer follow them. The same with cops, I stopped almost a year ago, no big problem, their response time was just way too slow and I can handle things myself.

Sicilianthing

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You nailed it...

Also, dont trust o**h K****rs, they are T*****rs and I can provide some info on that.
I recently posted a Topic last week that exposed them.

newbear Loc: New York City

Sicilian,

the warfare of old, with explosions and bullet holes everywhere, is irretrievably gone, despite your romantic phantasies.

We are losing our civil liberties miles a minute, just listen to Gov. Pritzker of Illinois denouncing inappropriate comments about his "family" situation.

The New York Gov. Cuomo fills the nursing homes with high risk elders, in effect condemning them to die.

These few examples are executed by the elected officials turned bureaucrats, without nary a protest or a shot fired.

What is coming, in my opinion, is a mass surrender of the populace, to the dictates of their elected autocrats who will do this and more, because they can.

Sicilianthing

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You make very valid points and I totally understand.
You write well and I commend you.
By the picture you paint r*******n will erupt because I know myself and millions like me will pick up our weapons and begin the process.

It’s the last thing we want is to fight, but the divisions are too wide and there is no compromise.

You act as if it’s all too late and you threw in the towel.

I’m trying to show you by Topics on actions of patriot groups and m*****as who once didn’t exist are now coalescing to grow the ranks.

Things can escalate quickly, very quickly and this whole thing can tip over at any moment.

newbear Loc: New York City

Sicilianthing,

I have told my son that he has to choose the sides, that was some time ago and it was meant as a cryptic prediction of a Civil War II.

I did not expect the miseducation of the young ones would be so successful as to make us all surrounded.

The late Chairman Mao's genius rests in seizing the educational system from get-go in 1949, and the 20 years later he had a willing army of "student soldiers" willing and capable to humiliate and even k**l their elders during the so called Cultural Revolution.

The "millennials" and the various generations XYZ do not appear to be such murderous sort even though they are thoroughly indoctrinated by the various Teachers Unions members in K-12 and later in the compulsory Colleges and Universities. The indoctrinators posing as educators try to punish anyone with an opinion by downgrading their work. All this on the top of the usurious fees covered by the "student loans".

It is written that "the meek shall inherit the world". I propose that these indentured servants of today are poised to become the meek of tomorrow, ready to enter now lucrative public service and rule an increasingly feeble populace of their elders.

I could rant on, but what say you?