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Apr 16, 2020 06:48:31   #
American Vet
 
Petulant propagandists, disguised as journalists, have a new talking point. President Trump was asleep at the wheel earlier this year, eating Big Macs, sipping covfefe, watching Fox and Friends, totally missing the boat on the Chinese C****av***s outbreak. Their new narrative is that Trump could have and should have acted sooner and if he had, all would be normal in the world.

Which is it? Was he too aggressive or too passive? Did he jump the gun or drop the ball? Consistency is an irrelevant concept in modern journalism, replaced by situational outrage. The media is perpetually against anything Trump is for, or vice versa, changing their narrative to fit wh**ever the President is doing or saying at the moment. The only consistency is that he is an ignorant and r****t rube, incapable of tying his shoes without proper oversight by the White House press corp.

Suppose President Trump had acted earlier, as the shrieking media cranks claim he should have. How might that have looked?

Dates are important in the construct of timelines and reactions. The first C***D test positive patient in the US was on January 20. The Senate impeachment trial began on January 16, four days before the first C***D case in the US. What if Trump, upon learning of this first case, and based on the CDC implementing public health entry screening at 3 US airports on January 17, instituted a national stay-at-home order for the entire country? This of course would have included all members of Congress, effectively ending the impeachment trial.

Anyone want to guess the chyrons on CNN? Words like “despot,” “tyrant,” and “dictator” would have featured prominently.

If deaths were the trigger, Trump, after the first US death on February 29, could have then issued a stay-at-home order, cancelling or postponing Super Tuesday primaries on March 3. The media would have reacted and claimed that Trump was sabotaging or rigging the opposition party’s e******ns. Would he be colluding with the Chinese this time rather than the Russians? Schiff and Nadler would be giddy with delight at getting another bite at the impeachment apple over Trump subverting an e******n.

Suppose by executive order, in early February, after declaring the c****av***s a public health emergency on January 31, President Trump cancelled all professional sporting events, Mardi Gras, classroom education, from kindergarten through graduate school, and mandated social distancing as we are seeing today? Imagine the outcry. Trump would be a f*****t totalitarian.

This would still be well in advance of Nancy Pelosi, at the end of February telling San Franciscans to “visit Chinatown” insisting that it is “very safe”.

Trump actually did act quickly and aggressively ahead of the v***l p******c. The Monday morning quarterbacks who poo pooed Trump’s early reactions, labeling them unnecessary, r****t, and xenophobic were behind the times.

Imagine if Trump in the future did as his detractors say he should have done now. What if in a year or two when there is another v***l outbreak somewhere in the world, Trump shuts the country down?

The left, so-called guardians of civil liberties, would be apoplectic. They had best be careful what they wish for.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/04/suppose_trump_had_acted_earlier_against_the_w***n_v***s.html#ixzz6JltAvDIv

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Apr 16, 2020 07:18:22   #
Liberty Tree
 
American Vet wrote:
Petulant propagandists, disguised as journalists, have a new talking point. President Trump was asleep at the wheel earlier this year, eating Big Macs, sipping covfefe, watching Fox and Friends, totally missing the boat on the Chinese C****av***s outbreak. Their new narrative is that Trump could have and should have acted sooner and if he had, all would be normal in the world.

Which is it? Was he too aggressive or too passive? Did he jump the gun or drop the ball? Consistency is an irrelevant concept in modern journalism, replaced by situational outrage. The media is perpetually against anything Trump is for, or vice versa, changing their narrative to fit wh**ever the President is doing or saying at the moment. The only consistency is that he is an ignorant and r****t rube, incapable of tying his shoes without proper oversight by the White House press corp.

Suppose President Trump had acted earlier, as the shrieking media cranks claim he should have. How might that have looked?

Dates are important in the construct of timelines and reactions. The first C***D test positive patient in the US was on January 20. The Senate impeachment trial began on January 16, four days before the first C***D case in the US. What if Trump, upon learning of this first case, and based on the CDC implementing public health entry screening at 3 US airports on January 17, instituted a national stay-at-home order for the entire country? This of course would have included all members of Congress, effectively ending the impeachment trial.

Anyone want to guess the chyrons on CNN? Words like “despot,” “tyrant,” and “dictator” would have featured prominently.

If deaths were the trigger, Trump, after the first US death on February 29, could have then issued a stay-at-home order, cancelling or postponing Super Tuesday primaries on March 3. The media would have reacted and claimed that Trump was sabotaging or rigging the opposition party’s e******ns. Would he be colluding with the Chinese this time rather than the Russians? Schiff and Nadler would be giddy with delight at getting another bite at the impeachment apple over Trump subverting an e******n.

Suppose by executive order, in early February, after declaring the c****av***s a public health emergency on January 31, President Trump cancelled all professional sporting events, Mardi Gras, classroom education, from kindergarten through graduate school, and mandated social distancing as we are seeing today? Imagine the outcry. Trump would be a f*****t totalitarian.

This would still be well in advance of Nancy Pelosi, at the end of February telling San Franciscans to “visit Chinatown” insisting that it is “very safe”.

Trump actually did act quickly and aggressively ahead of the v***l p******c. The Monday morning quarterbacks who poo pooed Trump’s early reactions, labeling them unnecessary, r****t, and xenophobic were behind the times.

Imagine if Trump in the future did as his detractors say he should have done now. What if in a year or two when there is another v***l outbreak somewhere in the world, Trump shuts the country down?

The left, so-called guardians of civil liberties, would be apoplectic. They had best be careful what they wish for.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/04/suppose_trump_had_acted_earlier_against_the_w***n_v***s.html#ixzz6JltAvDIv
Petulant propagandists, disguised as journalists, ... (show quote)


MSM and Democrats are so filled with h**e and self interest they are going to complain and accuse no matter what he does. Best response is no response. Trump should stop answering questions and we should ignore them on OPP.

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Apr 16, 2020 10:10:17   #
currahee506
 
We have to go after their bosses because they're the ones that give approval to their lies.

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Apr 16, 2020 10:24:46   #
woodguru
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
MSM and Democrats are so filled with h**e and self interest they are going to complain and accuse no matter what he does. Best response is no response. Trump should stop answering questions and we should ignore them on OPP.


I'm afraid there will inevitably be investigations into exactly what FEMA bought, and who and how they disbursed it, which has been openly partisan. A president doesn't have the right to refuse to answer questions that the public has a right to know.

You don't think the public has a right to know what experts were advising on exactly what date, and how many lives were lost due to refusing to act accordingly? Regardless of right or wrong, we do have every right to fully understand how many lives could have been saved had Trump done things other countries and states were doing. We still have states that have not shut down appropriately.

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Apr 16, 2020 11:24:32   #
Lonewolf
 
woodguru wrote:
I'm afraid there will inevitably be investigations into exactly what FEMA bought, and who and how they disbursed it, which has been openly partisan. A president doesn't have the right to refuse to answer questions that the public has a right to know.

You don't think the public has a right to know what experts were advising on exactly what date, and how many lives were lost due to refusing to act accordingly? Regardless of right or wrong, we do have every right to fully understand how many lives could have been saved had Trump done things other countries and states were doing. We still have states that have not shut down appropriately.
I'm afraid there will inevitably be investigations... (show quote)



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Apr 16, 2020 14:21:40   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
woodguru wrote:
I'm afraid there will inevitably be investigations into exactly what FEMA bought, and who and how they disbursed it, which has been openly partisan. A president doesn't have the right to refuse to answer questions that the public has a right to know.

You don't think the public has a right to know what experts were advising on exactly what date, and how many lives were lost due to refusing to act accordingly? Regardless of right or wrong, we do have every right to fully understand how many lives could have been saved had Trump done things other countries and states were doing. We still have states that have not shut down appropriately.
I'm afraid there will inevitably be investigations... (show quote)


Yes, I understand that Alaska has not totally shut down and I want to know why. Supposedly the v***s spreads more quickly in cold areas so Alaska should be hit really hard.

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Apr 16, 2020 14:29:37   #
woodguru
 
American Vet wrote:


Imagine if we had a president that acted as South Korea did, by kicking testing labs into full gear in January, the same day as Korea?

Then, instead of downplaying numbers and saying they were going to magically disappear one day, they were taken seriously, isolated, all contacts were traced, tested, and isolated until they tested negative.

We would be dealing with hundreds or thousands of cases and a handful of deaths. Then if it got away from us testing capacity would have been in the hundreds of thousands a day instead of for some reason getting harder and harder to get.

It's hard to imagine the part where we had a competent president that could act as say Newsome did.

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Apr 17, 2020 13:03:12   #
woodguru
 
And the numbers will be done against timelines of when other countries and states acted and the difference it made...days means thousands of lives

Trump knew and was getting advice and recommendations on things he didn't respond to all through January and February. Pick a day he didn't act when it would have made sense and modeling can put a number to haw many people died as a result.

The New York Times published a piece that says two weeks earlier and we'd have had 6.000 deaths versus 60,000...even one week reduces it to 23,000 versus 60,000

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/14/opinion/c***d-social-distancing.html

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Apr 17, 2020 14:29:59   #
American Vet
 
woodguru wrote:
Imagine if we had a president that acted as South Korea did, by kicking testing labs into full gear in January, the same day as Korea?.


We would have had the l*****t and the MSM (but I repeat myself) screaming about him being a 'tyrant'.....

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Apr 17, 2020 14:38:02   #
woodguru
 
American Vet wrote:
We would have had the l*****t and the MSM (but I repeat myself) screaming about him being a 'tyrant'.....


Actually that would have been the hard right that worries about their liberties, Newsome didn't catch much heat when the bay area counties shut it down early. Eighty percent support this

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Apr 17, 2020 15:18:25   #
American Vet
 
woodguru wrote:
Actually that would have been the hard right that worries about their liberties, Newsome didn't catch much heat when the bay area counties shut it down early. Eighty percent support this


Wrong - but thanks for playing....

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Apr 17, 2020 16:21:32   #
WEBCO
 
woodguru wrote:
Imagine if we had a president that acted as South Korea did, by kicking testing labs into full gear in January, the same day as Korea?

Then, instead of downplaying numbers and saying they were going to magically disappear one day, they were taken seriously, isolated, all contacts were traced, tested, and isolated until they tested negative.

We would be dealing with hundreds or thousands of cases and a handful of deaths. Then if it got away from us testing capacity would have been in the hundreds of thousands a day instead of for some reason getting harder and harder to get.

It's hard to imagine the part where we had a competent president that could act as say Newsome did.
Imagine if we had a president that acted as South ... (show quote)


sure would have been easier to do if China and the WHO hadn't have covered up the t***h and lied about it. Or hadn't destroyed the genome sequence, of course then they couldn't have lied and said it started in the market. By the way Gavin Newsome is nothing but a waste of space and oxygen. How the people of California don't recall him is a complete mystery to any intelligent American

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Apr 17, 2020 16:24:14   #
WEBCO
 
woodguru wrote:
And the numbers will be done against timelines of when other countries and states acted and the difference it made...days means thousands of lives

Trump knew and was getting advice and recommendations on things he didn't respond to all through January and February. Pick a day he didn't act when it would have made sense and modeling can put a number to haw many people died as a result.

The New York Times published a piece that says two weeks earlier and we'd have had 6.000 deaths versus 60,000...even one week reduces it to 23,000 versus 60,000

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/14/opinion/c***d-social-distancing.html
And the numbers will be done against timelines of ... (show quote)


first off it's an opinion piece, and secondly their models have been so accurate...almost as accurate as the IPCC's.

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Apr 17, 2020 21:04:57   #
JoyV
 
American Vet wrote:
Petulant propagandists, disguised as journalists, have a new talking point. President Trump was asleep at the wheel earlier this year, eating Big Macs, sipping covfefe, watching Fox and Friends, totally missing the boat on the Chinese C****av***s outbreak. Their new narrative is that Trump could have and should have acted sooner and if he had, all would be normal in the world.

Which is it? Was he too aggressive or too passive? Did he jump the gun or drop the ball? Consistency is an irrelevant concept in modern journalism, replaced by situational outrage. The media is perpetually against anything Trump is for, or vice versa, changing their narrative to fit wh**ever the President is doing or saying at the moment. The only consistency is that he is an ignorant and r****t rube, incapable of tying his shoes without proper oversight by the White House press corp.

Suppose President Trump had acted earlier, as the shrieking media cranks claim he should have. How might that have looked?

Dates are important in the construct of timelines and reactions. The first C***D test positive patient in the US was on January 20. The Senate impeachment trial began on January 16, four days before the first C***D case in the US. What if Trump, upon learning of this first case, and based on the CDC implementing public health entry screening at 3 US airports on January 17, instituted a national stay-at-home order for the entire country? This of course would have included all members of Congress, effectively ending the impeachment trial.

Anyone want to guess the chyrons on CNN? Words like “despot,” “tyrant,” and “dictator” would have featured prominently.

If deaths were the trigger, Trump, after the first US death on February 29, could have then issued a stay-at-home order, cancelling or postponing Super Tuesday primaries on March 3. The media would have reacted and claimed that Trump was sabotaging or rigging the opposition party’s e******ns. Would he be colluding with the Chinese this time rather than the Russians? Schiff and Nadler would be giddy with delight at getting another bite at the impeachment apple over Trump subverting an e******n.

Suppose by executive order, in early February, after declaring the c****av***s a public health emergency on January 31, President Trump cancelled all professional sporting events, Mardi Gras, classroom education, from kindergarten through graduate school, and mandated social distancing as we are seeing today? Imagine the outcry. Trump would be a f*****t totalitarian.

This would still be well in advance of Nancy Pelosi, at the end of February telling San Franciscans to “visit Chinatown” insisting that it is “very safe”.

Trump actually did act quickly and aggressively ahead of the v***l p******c. The Monday morning quarterbacks who poo pooed Trump’s early reactions, labeling them unnecessary, r****t, and xenophobic were behind the times.

Imagine if Trump in the future did as his detractors say he should have done now. What if in a year or two when there is another v***l outbreak somewhere in the world, Trump shuts the country down?

The left, so-called guardians of civil liberties, would be apoplectic. They had best be careful what they wish for.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/04/suppose_trump_had_acted_earlier_against_the_w***n_v***s.html#ixzz6JltAvDIv
Petulant propagandists, disguised as journalists, ... (show quote)


He actually had airport screenings from China before the first reported case in the US. January 17th. He was called a xenophobe and germaphobe for doing so since the World Health Organization had just stated three days earlier that the v***s could only be contracted by direct contact with an infected animal and was NOT human t***smitted.

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Apr 17, 2020 21:48:51   #
77Reaganite Loc: Athens, GA, United States
 
American Vet wrote:
Petulant propagandists, disguised as journalists, have a new talking point. President Trump was asleep at the wheel earlier this year, eating Big Macs, sipping covfefe, watching Fox and Friends, totally missing the boat on the Chinese C****av***s outbreak. Their new narrative is that Trump could have and should have acted sooner and if he had, all would be normal in the world.

Which is it? Was he too aggressive or too passive? Did he jump the gun or drop the ball? Consistency is an irrelevant concept in modern journalism, replaced by situational outrage. The media is perpetually against anything Trump is for, or vice versa, changing their narrative to fit wh**ever the President is doing or saying at the moment. The only consistency is that he is an ignorant and r****t rube, incapable of tying his shoes without proper oversight by the White House press corp.

Suppose President Trump had acted earlier, as the shrieking media cranks claim he should have. How might that have looked?

Dates are important in the construct of timelines and reactions. The first C***D test positive patient in the US was on January 20. The Senate impeachment trial began on January 16, four days before the first C***D case in the US. What if Trump, upon learning of this first case, and based on the CDC implementing public health entry screening at 3 US airports on January 17, instituted a national stay-at-home order for the entire country? This of course would have included all members of Congress, effectively ending the impeachment trial.

Anyone want to guess the chyrons on CNN? Words like “despot,” “tyrant,” and “dictator” would have featured prominently.

If deaths were the trigger, Trump, after the first US death on February 29, could have then issued a stay-at-home order, cancelling or postponing Super Tuesday primaries on March 3. The media would have reacted and claimed that Trump was sabotaging or rigging the opposition party’s e******ns. Would he be colluding with the Chinese this time rather than the Russians? Schiff and Nadler would be giddy with delight at getting another bite at the impeachment apple over Trump subverting an e******n.

Suppose by executive order, in early February, after declaring the c****av***s a public health emergency on January 31, President Trump cancelled all professional sporting events, Mardi Gras, classroom education, from kindergarten through graduate school, and mandated social distancing as we are seeing today? Imagine the outcry. Trump would be a f*****t totalitarian.

This would still be well in advance of Nancy Pelosi, at the end of February telling San Franciscans to “visit Chinatown” insisting that it is “very safe”.

Trump actually did act quickly and aggressively ahead of the v***l p******c. The Monday morning quarterbacks who poo pooed Trump’s early reactions, labeling them unnecessary, r****t, and xenophobic were behind the times.

Imagine if Trump in the future did as his detractors say he should have done now. What if in a year or two when there is another v***l outbreak somewhere in the world, Trump shuts the country down?

The left, so-called guardians of civil liberties, would be apoplectic. They had best be careful what they wish for.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/04/suppose_trump_had_acted_earlier_against_the_w***n_v***s.html#ixzz6JltAvDIv
Petulant propagandists, disguised as journalists, ... (show quote)



He couldn't have acted any sooner than he did because The Who and China both hid all the findings about the v***s and the spread of it throughout the city once it got released from the lab where it was created

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