Update on trump lies from yesterday
Apr 14, 2020 08:12:56 #
Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump delivered another litany of false and misleading claims on Monday at a White House c****av***s briefing during which he repeatedly accused the media of dishonesty.
Trump delivered an indignant screed about claims that he was slow in responding to the c****av***s outbreak, repeatedly citing the travel restrictions on China he announced in late January and began in early February. Yet his defense did not address his public downplaying of the v***s into March, how his administration was slow to deploy the tests experts believe might have helped contain the outbreak, or how the administration waited critical weeks to make large orders of critical equipment.
Trump also falsely claimed he has "total" authority over states' c****av***s restrictions, falsely claimed he had inherited broken c****av***s tests, falsely claimed presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden apologized for having called him xenophobic, falsely claimed that governors have stopped talking about a need for ventilators, and falsely claimed he banned travel from Europe.
Here's our preliminary rundown of his claims and the facts that go with them. This will be updated throughout the night.
Fact checking a portion of the White House video presentation
During the task force briefing, the White House presented a digital montage of TV and radio clips of Trump's early actions with the c****av***s. One clip featured audio from New York Times reporter Maggie Haberman, who can be heard describing how the President was criticized for his early travel ban from China.
Facts First: The Haberman quotes are misleading as they edit out one of her key points: that the President's travel restriction was one of the last actions he took to address the c****av***s for weeks.
Here's the Haberman quote as it was presented by the White House video:
"As there were more cases and it was clear that it was spreading out of China -- where it originated -- the President took this move that he was widely criticized for by Democrats and even some Republicans at the time. Which was he halted a number of flights from China into the U.S. The idea was to halt the spread of the disease, keep t***smissions to a minimum. He was accused of xenophobia. He was accused of making a r****t move. At the end of the day, it was probably effective, because it did actually take a pretty aggressive measure against the spread of the v***s."
According to a transcript of The Daily podcast from March 25, here's the end of the quote, including a key point (in bold) at the end that was left out of the White House presentation:
"At the end of the day, it was probably effective, because it did actually take a pretty aggressive measure against the spread of the v***s. The problem is, it was one of the last things that he did for several weeks."
According to the transcript, the Daily's host Michael Barbaro asked a follow up question: "So the right decision in retrospect, but not accompanied by similar actions that might have contained t***smission."
Haberman responded: "That's exactly right. In the same way that George W. Bush was criticized for his 'Mission Accomplished' banner about Iraq, the President treated that moment as if it was his mission accomplished moment. He did not do anything after that in terms of alerting the public, or telling people to be safe, or telling people to take precautions. And it basically squandered several weeks within the US."
As Haberman pointed out on Twitter, she went on to say that the President "treated that travel limitation as a Mission Accomplished moment," harkening back to former President George W. Bush.
Joe Biden and the travel restrictions on China
Trump claimed that presumptive Democratic p**********l nominee Joe Biden has apologized for having accused him of xenophobia on January 31, when Trump's administration announced its c****av***s travel restrictions on China.
"He has since apologized and he said I did the right thing," Trump said.
Facts First: Biden has not apologized for having called Trump xenophobic. Furthermore, it's not clear the former vice president even knew about Trump's China travel restrictions when he called him xenophobic on the day the restrictions were unveiled.
Biden's campaign announced in early April that he supports Trump's travel restrictions on China, so part of Trump's Monday claim is correct. But the Biden campaign did not say the former vice president had previously been wrong about the ban, much less apologize. Rather, the campaign says Biden's January 31 accusations -- that Trump has a record of "hysterical xenophobia" and "fear mongering" -- were not about the travel restrictions at all.
The campaign says Biden did not know about the restrictions at the time of his speech, since his campaign event in Iowa started shortly after the Trump administration briefing where the restrictions were revealed by Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar.
Given the timing of the Biden remarks, it's not unreasonable for the Trump campaign to infer that the former vice president was talking about the travel restrictions. But Biden never took an explicit position on the restrictions until his April declaration of support -- and whether or not you accept his campaign's argument that the "xenophobia" claim was not about the restrictions, he certainly hasn't apologized for the accusation.
C****av***s testing
At Monday's briefing, Trump implied that he had inherited flawed c****av***s tests from President Barack Obama's administration.
"We literally rebuilt tests -- we rebuilt a whole industry because we inherited nothing," Trump said. "What we inherited from the previous administration was totally broken, which somebody should eventually say. Not only were the cupboards bare, as I say, but we inherited broken testing. Now we have great testing."
Facts First: Since this is a new v***s that was first identified this year, the tests for it are newly created, not inherited from the Obama administration. The faulty initial test for the c****av***s was created during Trump's administration, in early 2020, by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
The claim "doesn't make sense because it is false," Tara Smith, an epidemiology professor at Kent State University, said of a previous version of Trump's claim. "This a new v***s."
"He is lying. He is lying 100%. He is lying because he is trying to shift blame to others, even if the attempt is totally nonsensical," Gregg Gonsalves, an assistant professor in the Department of Epidemiology of Microbial Diseases at the Yale School of Public Health, said of a previous version of the claim.
Trump has made versions of this claim on multiple occasions, shifting his rhetoric over time from a broader and more debatable claim that the testing "system" was flawed. While his Monday claim about having inherited "broken testing" is slightly vaguer than his claims about having inherited faulty or obsolete "tests," it creates the same impression.
You can read more here about the President's various claims on inheriting tests.
President has 'total' authority over c****av***s restrictions
Trump falsely claimed on Monday that, as President, he has "total" authority to decide to lift restrictions governors have imposed to fight the c****av***s p******c.
"When somebody's the President of the United States, the authority is total, and that's the way it's got to be," Trump said at the White House c****av***s briefing.
Trump then said: "The authority of the President of the United States having to do with the subject we're talking about is total." And after speaking about local governments, he said, "They can't do anything without the approval of the President of the United States."
It wasn't clear if he was referring to state or local officials with that assertion. But he was wrong regardless.
Facts First: The President does not have "total" authority over c****av***s restrictions. Without seeking or requiring Trump's permission, governors, mayors and school district officials imposed the restrictions that have kept citizens at home and shut down schools and businesses, and it's those same officials who have the power to decide when to lift those restrictions. There is no legislation that explicitly gives the President the power to override states' public health measures. In addition, Trump said last week that he prefers, because of the Constitution, to let governors make their own decisions on c****av***s restrictions.
We can't say for sure that the courts would not side with Trump if he attempted to challenge state restrictions on some constitutional grounds he has not yet identified. However, many legal scholars believe Trump would lose.
James Hodge, a professor and director of the Center for Public Health Law and Policy at Arizona State University, said Trump is "wrong" to claim he has the power to lift the states' c****av***s restrictions.
"He can strongly encourage, advise, or even litigate whether states' authorities to restrict public movements re: shelter in place or stay home orders are warranted, but cannot tell sovereign governors to lift these orders all at once just because the federal government determines it is high time to do so," Hodge said in an email.
Trump's Monday evening comments at the briefing echoed tweets from earlier in the day in which he asserted that "it is the decision of the President," not governors, on when to "open up the states."
"This tweet is just false. The President has no formal legal authority to categorically override local or state shelter-in-place orders or to reopen schools and small businesses. No statute delegates to him such power; no constitutional provision invests him with such authority," Stephen Vladeck, a University of Texas law professor and CNN legal analyst, said on Twitter on Monday.
Trump did not personally shut down the economy. Rather, he issued nonbinding guidelines on how people should keep their distance from each other. The guidelines begin as follows: "Listen to and follow the directions of your STATE AND LOCAL AUTHORITIES."
No legislation says the President has the power to overturn the public health decisions of these authorities, Vladeck and other legal scholars say.
Trump did not explain why he believes he has this power. When CNN's Kaitlan Collins asked him who told him he has "total" authority, he did not answer directly, instead saying, "We're going to write up papers on this."
When another reporter explained that the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution grants to states the powers not delegated to the federal government, Trump did not contest this interpretation -- and instead sidestepped the question, saying he did not believe a state official who refused to reopen the economy could win ree******n.
Trump-friendly website Breitbart broached the possibility that Trump could try to use the Constitution's Commerce Clause, which gives Congress the power to regulate interstate commerce, to try to lift commercial restrictions.
Robert Barnes, a lawyer who supports Trump, argued to CNN on Monday that, "in the emergency context," the President possesses these commerce powers the Constitution assigns to Congress.
Vladeck said Barnes' claim is unfounded. While Vladeck said Congress might be able to pass a law authorizing the President to override some state and local restrictions -- he emphasized the "might" -- he said Trump does not have the power to override the restrictions on his own.
"Congress has delegated the President a bunch of powers for emergencies, but this isn't among them," Vladeck told CNN.
Hodge said states have a long-established authority to restrict some commerce for the protection of public health. And it is widely understood that state governments have the power to address public health emergencies within their states.
In a 2014 report, the Congressional Research Service, which provides nonpartisan research and analysis to Congress, looked at federal and state powers over quarantine and isolation. The report did not specifically address the question of a president wanting to override state public health measures, but it noted: "In general, courts appear to have declined to interfere with a state's exercise of police powers with regard to public health matters 'except where the regulations adopted for the protection of the public health are arbitrary, oppressive and unreasonable.'"
While both the Congressional Research Service report and the National Conference of State Legislatures say that the federal government can "take over" the management of a public health incident within a state "if the federal government determines local efforts are inadequate," they do not specifically address a situation in which the federal government wants to take over because it believes the state is being too strict in trying to address the emergency.
Trump has some power
Trump himself has spoken as recently as last week about states' constitutional powers during the p******c, though he has asserted that he too has powers.
After he was asked on April 10 about the possibility of Florida's governor opening up schools in May, the President said: "I like to allow governors to make decisions without overruling them, because from a constitutional standpoint, that's the way it should be done. If I disagreed, I would overrule a governor, and I have that right to do it. But I'd rather have them -- you can call it 'federalist,' you can call it 'the Constitution,' but I call it 'the Constitution.' I would rather have them make their decisions."
Trump does have some clear, though limited, direct power. For example, he can order federal employees to return to their offices and reopen national parks and other federal property.
And he can, obviously, use his influence to try to persuade governors -- and citizens -- to do as he wishes.
It is also possible that Trump could try to leverage the "major disaster declaration" he has issued for each state -- for example, attempting to require governors to take certain steps in exchange for federal assistance. Hodge, though, said it "could be unconstitutional" to try to impose new conditions for the receipt of federal funding after having already authorized the disaster declarations without such conditions.
Trump also asserted at the briefing that even Democratic governors would agree with his claim to total authority. New York Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo, speaking shortly after the briefing to CNN's Erin Burnett, said he disagreed: "We have a Constitution. We don't have a king."
Fact checking Trump's claims about his travel restrictions on Europe, China
Responding t
Trump delivered an indignant screed about claims that he was slow in responding to the c****av***s outbreak, repeatedly citing the travel restrictions on China he announced in late January and began in early February. Yet his defense did not address his public downplaying of the v***s into March, how his administration was slow to deploy the tests experts believe might have helped contain the outbreak, or how the administration waited critical weeks to make large orders of critical equipment.
Trump also falsely claimed he has "total" authority over states' c****av***s restrictions, falsely claimed he had inherited broken c****av***s tests, falsely claimed presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden apologized for having called him xenophobic, falsely claimed that governors have stopped talking about a need for ventilators, and falsely claimed he banned travel from Europe.
Here's our preliminary rundown of his claims and the facts that go with them. This will be updated throughout the night.
Fact checking a portion of the White House video presentation
During the task force briefing, the White House presented a digital montage of TV and radio clips of Trump's early actions with the c****av***s. One clip featured audio from New York Times reporter Maggie Haberman, who can be heard describing how the President was criticized for his early travel ban from China.
Facts First: The Haberman quotes are misleading as they edit out one of her key points: that the President's travel restriction was one of the last actions he took to address the c****av***s for weeks.
Here's the Haberman quote as it was presented by the White House video:
"As there were more cases and it was clear that it was spreading out of China -- where it originated -- the President took this move that he was widely criticized for by Democrats and even some Republicans at the time. Which was he halted a number of flights from China into the U.S. The idea was to halt the spread of the disease, keep t***smissions to a minimum. He was accused of xenophobia. He was accused of making a r****t move. At the end of the day, it was probably effective, because it did actually take a pretty aggressive measure against the spread of the v***s."
According to a transcript of The Daily podcast from March 25, here's the end of the quote, including a key point (in bold) at the end that was left out of the White House presentation:
"At the end of the day, it was probably effective, because it did actually take a pretty aggressive measure against the spread of the v***s. The problem is, it was one of the last things that he did for several weeks."
According to the transcript, the Daily's host Michael Barbaro asked a follow up question: "So the right decision in retrospect, but not accompanied by similar actions that might have contained t***smission."
Haberman responded: "That's exactly right. In the same way that George W. Bush was criticized for his 'Mission Accomplished' banner about Iraq, the President treated that moment as if it was his mission accomplished moment. He did not do anything after that in terms of alerting the public, or telling people to be safe, or telling people to take precautions. And it basically squandered several weeks within the US."
As Haberman pointed out on Twitter, she went on to say that the President "treated that travel limitation as a Mission Accomplished moment," harkening back to former President George W. Bush.
Joe Biden and the travel restrictions on China
Trump claimed that presumptive Democratic p**********l nominee Joe Biden has apologized for having accused him of xenophobia on January 31, when Trump's administration announced its c****av***s travel restrictions on China.
"He has since apologized and he said I did the right thing," Trump said.
Facts First: Biden has not apologized for having called Trump xenophobic. Furthermore, it's not clear the former vice president even knew about Trump's China travel restrictions when he called him xenophobic on the day the restrictions were unveiled.
Biden's campaign announced in early April that he supports Trump's travel restrictions on China, so part of Trump's Monday claim is correct. But the Biden campaign did not say the former vice president had previously been wrong about the ban, much less apologize. Rather, the campaign says Biden's January 31 accusations -- that Trump has a record of "hysterical xenophobia" and "fear mongering" -- were not about the travel restrictions at all.
The campaign says Biden did not know about the restrictions at the time of his speech, since his campaign event in Iowa started shortly after the Trump administration briefing where the restrictions were revealed by Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar.
Given the timing of the Biden remarks, it's not unreasonable for the Trump campaign to infer that the former vice president was talking about the travel restrictions. But Biden never took an explicit position on the restrictions until his April declaration of support -- and whether or not you accept his campaign's argument that the "xenophobia" claim was not about the restrictions, he certainly hasn't apologized for the accusation.
C****av***s testing
At Monday's briefing, Trump implied that he had inherited flawed c****av***s tests from President Barack Obama's administration.
"We literally rebuilt tests -- we rebuilt a whole industry because we inherited nothing," Trump said. "What we inherited from the previous administration was totally broken, which somebody should eventually say. Not only were the cupboards bare, as I say, but we inherited broken testing. Now we have great testing."
Facts First: Since this is a new v***s that was first identified this year, the tests for it are newly created, not inherited from the Obama administration. The faulty initial test for the c****av***s was created during Trump's administration, in early 2020, by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
The claim "doesn't make sense because it is false," Tara Smith, an epidemiology professor at Kent State University, said of a previous version of Trump's claim. "This a new v***s."
"He is lying. He is lying 100%. He is lying because he is trying to shift blame to others, even if the attempt is totally nonsensical," Gregg Gonsalves, an assistant professor in the Department of Epidemiology of Microbial Diseases at the Yale School of Public Health, said of a previous version of the claim.
Trump has made versions of this claim on multiple occasions, shifting his rhetoric over time from a broader and more debatable claim that the testing "system" was flawed. While his Monday claim about having inherited "broken testing" is slightly vaguer than his claims about having inherited faulty or obsolete "tests," it creates the same impression.
You can read more here about the President's various claims on inheriting tests.
President has 'total' authority over c****av***s restrictions
Trump falsely claimed on Monday that, as President, he has "total" authority to decide to lift restrictions governors have imposed to fight the c****av***s p******c.
"When somebody's the President of the United States, the authority is total, and that's the way it's got to be," Trump said at the White House c****av***s briefing.
Trump then said: "The authority of the President of the United States having to do with the subject we're talking about is total." And after speaking about local governments, he said, "They can't do anything without the approval of the President of the United States."
It wasn't clear if he was referring to state or local officials with that assertion. But he was wrong regardless.
Facts First: The President does not have "total" authority over c****av***s restrictions. Without seeking or requiring Trump's permission, governors, mayors and school district officials imposed the restrictions that have kept citizens at home and shut down schools and businesses, and it's those same officials who have the power to decide when to lift those restrictions. There is no legislation that explicitly gives the President the power to override states' public health measures. In addition, Trump said last week that he prefers, because of the Constitution, to let governors make their own decisions on c****av***s restrictions.
We can't say for sure that the courts would not side with Trump if he attempted to challenge state restrictions on some constitutional grounds he has not yet identified. However, many legal scholars believe Trump would lose.
James Hodge, a professor and director of the Center for Public Health Law and Policy at Arizona State University, said Trump is "wrong" to claim he has the power to lift the states' c****av***s restrictions.
"He can strongly encourage, advise, or even litigate whether states' authorities to restrict public movements re: shelter in place or stay home orders are warranted, but cannot tell sovereign governors to lift these orders all at once just because the federal government determines it is high time to do so," Hodge said in an email.
Trump's Monday evening comments at the briefing echoed tweets from earlier in the day in which he asserted that "it is the decision of the President," not governors, on when to "open up the states."
"This tweet is just false. The President has no formal legal authority to categorically override local or state shelter-in-place orders or to reopen schools and small businesses. No statute delegates to him such power; no constitutional provision invests him with such authority," Stephen Vladeck, a University of Texas law professor and CNN legal analyst, said on Twitter on Monday.
Trump did not personally shut down the economy. Rather, he issued nonbinding guidelines on how people should keep their distance from each other. The guidelines begin as follows: "Listen to and follow the directions of your STATE AND LOCAL AUTHORITIES."
No legislation says the President has the power to overturn the public health decisions of these authorities, Vladeck and other legal scholars say.
Trump did not explain why he believes he has this power. When CNN's Kaitlan Collins asked him who told him he has "total" authority, he did not answer directly, instead saying, "We're going to write up papers on this."
When another reporter explained that the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution grants to states the powers not delegated to the federal government, Trump did not contest this interpretation -- and instead sidestepped the question, saying he did not believe a state official who refused to reopen the economy could win ree******n.
Trump-friendly website Breitbart broached the possibility that Trump could try to use the Constitution's Commerce Clause, which gives Congress the power to regulate interstate commerce, to try to lift commercial restrictions.
Robert Barnes, a lawyer who supports Trump, argued to CNN on Monday that, "in the emergency context," the President possesses these commerce powers the Constitution assigns to Congress.
Vladeck said Barnes' claim is unfounded. While Vladeck said Congress might be able to pass a law authorizing the President to override some state and local restrictions -- he emphasized the "might" -- he said Trump does not have the power to override the restrictions on his own.
"Congress has delegated the President a bunch of powers for emergencies, but this isn't among them," Vladeck told CNN.
Hodge said states have a long-established authority to restrict some commerce for the protection of public health. And it is widely understood that state governments have the power to address public health emergencies within their states.
In a 2014 report, the Congressional Research Service, which provides nonpartisan research and analysis to Congress, looked at federal and state powers over quarantine and isolation. The report did not specifically address the question of a president wanting to override state public health measures, but it noted: "In general, courts appear to have declined to interfere with a state's exercise of police powers with regard to public health matters 'except where the regulations adopted for the protection of the public health are arbitrary, oppressive and unreasonable.'"
While both the Congressional Research Service report and the National Conference of State Legislatures say that the federal government can "take over" the management of a public health incident within a state "if the federal government determines local efforts are inadequate," they do not specifically address a situation in which the federal government wants to take over because it believes the state is being too strict in trying to address the emergency.
Trump has some power
Trump himself has spoken as recently as last week about states' constitutional powers during the p******c, though he has asserted that he too has powers.
After he was asked on April 10 about the possibility of Florida's governor opening up schools in May, the President said: "I like to allow governors to make decisions without overruling them, because from a constitutional standpoint, that's the way it should be done. If I disagreed, I would overrule a governor, and I have that right to do it. But I'd rather have them -- you can call it 'federalist,' you can call it 'the Constitution,' but I call it 'the Constitution.' I would rather have them make their decisions."
Trump does have some clear, though limited, direct power. For example, he can order federal employees to return to their offices and reopen national parks and other federal property.
And he can, obviously, use his influence to try to persuade governors -- and citizens -- to do as he wishes.
It is also possible that Trump could try to leverage the "major disaster declaration" he has issued for each state -- for example, attempting to require governors to take certain steps in exchange for federal assistance. Hodge, though, said it "could be unconstitutional" to try to impose new conditions for the receipt of federal funding after having already authorized the disaster declarations without such conditions.
Trump also asserted at the briefing that even Democratic governors would agree with his claim to total authority. New York Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo, speaking shortly after the briefing to CNN's Erin Burnett, said he disagreed: "We have a Constitution. We don't have a king."
Fact checking Trump's claims about his travel restrictions on Europe, China
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Apr 14, 2020 08:31:15 #
Everybody who wants a Constitution
Raise your hands!!!
The rest of you can all just go home!!!!
Raise your hands!!!
The rest of you can all just go home!!!!
Apr 14, 2020 08:40:51 #
I wish we all would have gotten behind President Trump in January on his upcoming travel bans 
We would all be much safer now against this v***s, had we listened to his messages
BUT there will always be those, like yourself who will refuse his wisdom, and experience on these very important matters
God Bless President Trump
I do feel sorry for the ignorance of Anti-Americans and their followers.
Trump 2020 and beyond. Hopefully there will always be a Trump in the Whitehouse. His Daughter should be the first Female President in 2025
Keep America Great with Trump, and DRAIN THAT SWAMP
May God Bless Us All.
We would all be much safer now against this v***s, had we listened to his messages BUT there will always be those, like yourself who will refuse his wisdom, and experience on these very important matters
God Bless President Trump
I do feel sorry for the ignorance of Anti-Americans and their followers.
Trump 2020 and beyond. Hopefully there will always be a Trump in the Whitehouse. His Daughter should be the first Female President in 2025
Keep America Great with Trump, and DRAIN THAT SWAMP
May God Bless Us All.Apr 14, 2020 09:18:58 #
Apr 14, 2020 09:24:23 #
Apr 14, 2020 09:38:23 #
no propaganda please
Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
Weasel wrote:
I wish we all would have gotten behind President T... (show quote)
Yes, Trump is doing the right things as soon as he possibly can. However, I do not wish to have one of his children as president. Choosing a president by the pedigree is a foolish move.
Apr 14, 2020 10:22:44 #
no propaganda please wrote:
Yes, Trump is doing the right things as soon as he possibly can. However, I do not wish to have one of his children as president. Choosing a president by the pedigree is a foolish move.
Agreed, but draining the swamp is something that must continue after his term. A family tradition that can only be carried on through his legacy.
Apr 14, 2020 13:20:29 #
Milosia2 wrote:
Everybody who wants a Constitution
Raise your hands!!!
The rest of you can all just go home!!!!
Raise your hands!!!
The rest of you can all just go home!!!!
"Hand": thrust into the air.
Apr 14, 2020 13:21:16 #
Weasel wrote:
Agreed, but draining the swamp is something that must continue after his term. A family tradition that can only be carried on through his legacy.
Everyone that he has appointed needs to put the gun to their head first to have any respect for that policy.
Apr 14, 2020 13:23:46 #
Weasel wrote:
I wish we all would have gotten behind President T... (show quote)
Well, since the v***s seems to have originated from Europe, perhaps that is a mute point. I guess if he had started these trade wars 3 years ago and actually prevented Europe from shipping to the US, would have been the only way.
Apr 15, 2020 05:48:25 #
Apr 15, 2020 15:49:33 #
Weasel: Where have you been? You go Sir! Respond more often and spread your knowledge. These are
nasty people in here with low intelligence. I loved Trump yesterday ...kind of turned the tables on the
h**eful attackers. Trump is going to go into high speed pretty soon. He has such an obligation to his
people...even YOU, the attackers and h**ers. He is President of all...chosen by an e*****rate that knew
what was going on and poor old Hillary was so disappointed. We had her "glory days" and the people
learned and wanted something very very different. Let's help this president, do what the Health officials
say and get us back to doing what America does best...Keep America Strong and get rid of the SWAMP...
Give all what we as American's want...justice and goodness and may all citizens soon have it. Obama
looks sad to me endorsing Biden and notice how he did it....check it out...hardly anyone saw it and
tell me some Democrat he wouldn't endorse...It is his job, so to speak. Now, let this habitual liar bow
out and watch his choice fall apart...as we need real intelligence in this day and age not a decades old
man who can't remember what he said about respecting woman's claims and now somehow the media
is out and "BIDEN DIDN'T DO IT.....HA! Ha! IS THIS KAVANAUGH IN REVERSE? Surely the Dems
don't expect the intelligence of American's to be challenged again? Nah...not a chance of that.
nasty people in here with low intelligence. I loved Trump yesterday ...kind of turned the tables on the
h**eful attackers. Trump is going to go into high speed pretty soon. He has such an obligation to his
people...even YOU, the attackers and h**ers. He is President of all...chosen by an e*****rate that knew
what was going on and poor old Hillary was so disappointed. We had her "glory days" and the people
learned and wanted something very very different. Let's help this president, do what the Health officials
say and get us back to doing what America does best...Keep America Strong and get rid of the SWAMP...
Give all what we as American's want...justice and goodness and may all citizens soon have it. Obama
looks sad to me endorsing Biden and notice how he did it....check it out...hardly anyone saw it and
tell me some Democrat he wouldn't endorse...It is his job, so to speak. Now, let this habitual liar bow
out and watch his choice fall apart...as we need real intelligence in this day and age not a decades old
man who can't remember what he said about respecting woman's claims and now somehow the media
is out and "BIDEN DIDN'T DO IT.....HA! Ha! IS THIS KAVANAUGH IN REVERSE? Surely the Dems
don't expect the intelligence of American's to be challenged again? Nah...not a chance of that.
Apr 18, 2020 14:53:38 #
Apr 18, 2020 15:19:36 #
factnotfiction: ...just throwing something else into "the mix"..How do you wise ones who h**e our President
with such a passion feel about "The mighty Speaker" in her kitchen or in her basement? Do the lofty
billionaires have a freezer in their kitchens? She's got a pretty good stock of very expensive ice creams
and last night heard what our Congressmen AND WOMEN earn....gosh darn $174,000 year I guess you
could have those freezers filled any place you wanted to. Doesn't it make you feel just all "soft" for
this clueless woman who is keeping most of America not having any income, while she struts in her
NORDSTROM...or higher yet garbs....very festive. (She does need to hoist her bra a bit, as she has "droopy
boobs!) Think on that...flies to her mansion and cares not one iota for the people driving through the
Food pantries as she is holding up money for the people in our country. Gosh, don't we love these patriots
who tear up speeches also for the world to see? Is she really getting worse or has someone taken her
for a check-up lately? Just throwing that in for the world to take notice that SEVERAL OF THESE DEMOGOGUES CARE NOT A BIT ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE GOING THROUGH...think on it for a minute and
see who puts his salary into something for the nation while "little droopy droops" is holding up millions
of businesses...kind of makes you think when did this nation go to hell?
with such a passion feel about "The mighty Speaker" in her kitchen or in her basement? Do the lofty
billionaires have a freezer in their kitchens? She's got a pretty good stock of very expensive ice creams
and last night heard what our Congressmen AND WOMEN earn....gosh darn $174,000 year I guess you
could have those freezers filled any place you wanted to. Doesn't it make you feel just all "soft" for
this clueless woman who is keeping most of America not having any income, while she struts in her
NORDSTROM...or higher yet garbs....very festive. (She does need to hoist her bra a bit, as she has "droopy
boobs!) Think on that...flies to her mansion and cares not one iota for the people driving through the
Food pantries as she is holding up money for the people in our country. Gosh, don't we love these patriots
who tear up speeches also for the world to see? Is she really getting worse or has someone taken her
for a check-up lately? Just throwing that in for the world to take notice that SEVERAL OF THESE DEMOGOGUES CARE NOT A BIT ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE GOING THROUGH...think on it for a minute and
see who puts his salary into something for the nation while "little droopy droops" is holding up millions
of businesses...kind of makes you think when did this nation go to hell?
Apr 18, 2020 16:17:24 #
DM wrote:
factnotfiction: ...just throwing something else in... (show quote)
That's it? you con cry babies are whining and soiling yourselves because the speaker has ice cream in her freeze, instead of fatburgers, cheeseburgers and and other assorted crap that you cons just love to gobble down.
Perhaps if the whining cons would spend their money on things besides weed, cigs, booze and fat burgers they would not cry so much
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