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How this simple blood test can restart economy!! Maybe available in May!
Apr 8, 2020 19:58:21   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/simple-blood-test-c****-**-antibodies-reopen-economy/story?id=70024837

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Apr 8, 2020 20:09:02   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
proud republican wrote:
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/simple-blood-test-c****-**-antibodies-reopen-economy/story?id=70024837


Horrible idea...

From the article:
"The idea behind the push is that people who have been exposed to the v***s form antibodies in their bloodstream that may help them to fight off another infection. The hope is that the body's antibodies against C****-** can diminish the chances of re-infection. "

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Apr 8, 2020 20:19:51   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Horrible idea...

From the article:
"The idea behind the push is that people who have been exposed to the v***s form antibodies in their bloodstream that may help them to fight off another infection. The hope is that the body's antibodies against C****-** can diminish the chances of re-infection. "


Why is it a horrible idea?? I think it's a great idea!!!

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Apr 8, 2020 20:41:47   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
proud republican wrote:
Why is it a horrible idea?? I think it's a great idea!!!


Because it's known that they can still be infected and press the v***s...

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Apr 8, 2020 21:01:29   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
proud republican wrote:
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/simple-blood-test-c****-**-antibodies-reopen-economy/story?id=70024837


I think that the developers need to be extremely careful when developing this test. The majority of Americans who have received flu shots in the last 12 years will have a c****av***s antibody and therefore could produce false positives in a broad spectrum test.

I say, full steam ahead with cautious development. At the expense of lost lives, the US economy has to be rebooted. We must regain normality and soon.

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Apr 8, 2020 21:12:57   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Pennylynn wrote:
I think that the developers need to be extremely careful when developing this test. The majority of Americans who have received flu shots in the last 12 years will have a c****av***s antibody and therefore could produce false positives in a broad spectrum test.

I say, full steam ahead with cautious development. At the expense of lost lives, the US economy has to be rebooted. We must regain normality and soon.


Excellent point

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Apr 8, 2020 22:49:50   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Horrible idea...

From the article:
"The idea behind the push is that people who have been exposed to the v***s form antibodies in their bloodstream that may help them to fight off another infection. The hope is that the body's antibodies against C****-** can diminish the chances of re-infection. "


I hardly think this is a horrible idea. However, at this stage, it is only an idea. It deserves further investigation as to its feasibility. It would take at least a year of trials to find out if a v*****e is effective, that is, once they develop a v*****e. This could have the potential to get people back to work. However, any lab caught saying their test is approved for detecting antibodies when it hasn't been should be shuttered for good and the people running the lab prosecuted to the full extent of the law. If we don't have adequate laws for this scenario then it is time for Congress to pass some. Testing for antibodies is a good way to see who is most at risk. The important thing is that the test be accurate and tests for the correct antibody to avoid false positives. We aren't talking blood t***sfusions here, just plasma. The testing would also help determine other factors that may be at play in the t***smission of the v***s. It is assumed, based on the numbers, that men are more vulnerable to developing C****-**. Why? There may be other factors such as blood type, a history of other diseases, ethnic characteristics, who knows? What is important is that one organization needs to be the spearhead on any such studies to coordinate all the participants and evaluate all the results. Who do we trust to do that? Not the WHO? Maybe in conjunction with another country, such as France, Sweden, Japan, or Korea. Nevertheless, we need good data and we need lots of it and soon. We will be hit by other v***ses, p******cs, pathogens, in the future, and they will probably be much worse. We have already seen the warning. Will we heed the call?

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Apr 8, 2020 22:51:07   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Pennylynn wrote:
I think that the developers need to be extremely careful when developing this test. The majority of Americans who have received flu shots in the last 12 years will have a c****av***s antibody and therefore could produce false positives in a broad spectrum test.

I say, full steam ahead with cautious development. At the expense of lost lives, the US economy has to be rebooted. We must regain normality and soon.



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Apr 8, 2020 22:53:15   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Because it's known that they can still be infected and press the v***s...


Exactly what do you mean by "still be infected?" Are you saying they are still carrying the v***s and can be contagious to others, or are you saying they can be re-infected anew? How do you know they can still be infected? That's why we need tests that work.

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Apr 8, 2020 22:58:48   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
dtucker300 wrote:
I hardly think this is a horrible idea. However, at this stage, it is only an idea. It deserves further investigation as to its feasibility. It would take at least a year of trials to find out if a v*****e is effective, that is, once they develop a v*****e. This could have the potential to get people back to work. However, any lab caught saying their test is approved for detecting antibodies when it hasn't been should be shuttered for good and the people running the lab prosecuted to the full extent of the law. If we don't have adequate laws for this scenario then it is time for Congress to pass some. Testing for antibodies is a good way to see who is most at risk. The important thing is that the test be accurate and tests for the correct antibody to avoid false positives. We aren't talking blood t***sfusions here, just plasma. The testing would also help determine other factors that may be at play in the t***smission of the v***s. It is assumed, based on the numbers, that men are more vulnerable to developing C****-**. Why? There may be other factors such as blood type, a history of other diseases, ethnic characteristics, who knows? What is important is that one organization needs to be the spearhead on any such studies to coordinate all the participants and evaluate all the results. Who do we trust to do that? Not the WHO? Maybe in conjunction with another country, such as France, Sweden, Japan, or Korea. Nevertheless, we need good data and we need lots of it and soon. We will be hit by other v***ses, p******cs, pathogens, in the future, and they will probably be much worse. We have already seen the warning. Will we heed the call?
I hardly think this is a horrible idea. However, ... (show quote)

All excellent points...

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Apr 8, 2020 23:46:45   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
proud republican wrote:
Why is it a horrible idea?? I think it's a great idea!!!


It's russian roulette with a v***s. What if the antibodies don't actually provide immunity? What if only SOME people are immune? What if those people are carriers ( think typhoid Mary ) and spreading the v***s, while remaining asymptomatic?

Anecdotal evidence k**ls people, sometimes science does as well, however, science is the ONLY method by which verifiable, safe and trustworthy solutions will be found.

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