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Apr 5, 2020 20:05:12   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
How a Police State is Born
Steve McCann ~ April 1, 2020
The United States and much of the western world, by utilizing the most draconian of tactics, is plunging many nations into potential economic and societal chaos as they attempt to stem the tide of the Chinese C****av***s. Relying on dubious and error-prone projections, politicians and bureaucrats constitutionally or statutorily limited in their power, are now exercising near-dictatorial authority in their edicts, which are effectively suspending or terminating numerous freedoms under the guise of protecting their respective nations.

All Americans, not be just those with first-hand experience dealing with World War II and its aftermath or living in Eastern Europe under iron boot of the Soviet Union or escaping the C*******t/socialist hellholes of Cuba, Southeast Asia or Venezuela, should view these actions with considerable trepidation.

When societies lose their freedom, it is not ordinarily because autocrats or tyrants have forcibly taken it away. It is usually the result of the population willingly surrendering their freedom in return for protection against an external threat. While the threat is oftentimes real, it is invariably exaggerated.

This is what we in the United States are experiencing. The general public has been stampeded by the fearmongering in the media into demanding action from the politicians at both the state and federal level. The politicians respond and do not pause to ask whether these actions will work -- just do something! They do not ask if the financial and societal cost to the nation is worth the unknown and perhaps nebulous return.

Any student of history and human nature would recognize that these are the classic symptoms of collective hysteria. Hysteria is contagious. This nation is turning itself inside out as we, thanks to the media, are exaggerating the threat and not stopping to ask if the cure is worse than the disease.

In times like these, it is to be expected that the citizenry will look to the government for guidance and assistance. When that happens in an environment of mass hysteria, then it is unsurprising that the state will take on or assume new power, as that is what has been demanded of it. This historically has been the process which leads to the rise of authoritarianism.

Over the past four weeks and with little or no legal basis, one state governor has outbid another in their dramatic responses to the C****av***s outbreak. Invariably their actions revolve around the curtailing of individual freedom.

Arrest warrants are being issued for holding funeral services, fines are being levied for not maintaining proper distance, people are being arrested for holding gatherings of over ten people, fines and arrests are the order of the day for re-opening a business the state deems to be nonessential, and the national guard has been called out to enforce state borders and lockdowns. Pastors have been arrested for holding worship services, and in New York City the mayor has threatened to permanently close any church, synagogue or mosque that violates his lockdown order. The Second Amendment is under assault as 12 states either have ordered or are contemplating ordering all gun stores and retailers closed, thus depriving millions of their right buy a gun. Neighbors and ordinary citizens, in the best tradition of the Soviet Union and C*******t China, are being encouraged to inform the authorities if anyone they know is not adhering to state lockdown rules. Stores, deemed essential by the state, are being told what in their inventory they can and cannot sell.

Congress, faced with the task of mitigating the economic plight of the citizenry, chooses instead to expand the federal government’s power and influence over the private sector through a massive and bloated $2.2 Trillion spending package. Additionally, the politicians in both parties and the media, are clamoring for President Trump to declare a nationwide quarantine, nationalize industries, mobilize the military and in essence declare martial law.

President Trump, in contrast to the media’s portrayal of him, has not succumbed to these overtures, as he is among the few political leaders in the nation that respects the freedoms enumerated in the Constitution. But his power over the individual state governors or Congress is limited.

The defenders of these authoritarian tactics say that these extreme measures are necessary in order to save hundreds of thousands of lives. But is that just a fig leaf to permanently t***sform the society?

This is not to say that the C****av***s is not a serious health issue and steps must be taken to protect the most vulnerable sector of the population -- the elderly with significant medical conditions. The number of people infected with the v***s over the past 30 days continues to rise as the nation has dramatically expanded testing. Of those who have died, approximately 1.6 percent of total infections, we do not know how many succumbed as the direct result of the v***s or died of other ailments, as any death with the v***s present is currently being counted as a C****av***s fatality. The Italian evidence, for example, suggests that only in 12 percent of deaths is it possible to say the C****av***s was the main cause of death.

The C****av***s started in China in early December of 2019. In the subsequent four months the v***s has spread to 177 countries and more than 40,000 deaths have so far been recorded. (For updated data, click here.) At this same juncture during the Hong Kong Flu (which had many of the same symptoms as the C****av***s) p******c in 1968-69, it is estimated that were over 350,000 fatalities globally (40,000 in the United States). Eventually, over 1 million throughout the world (100,000 in the United States) died.

In its 244-year history the United States has weathered seven of the worst p******cs in world history without the hysteria and loss of liberty and freedom. All indications reveal that the C****av***s will be exponentially less life-threatening than any of these previous p******cs.

Is the C****av***s p******c serious enough to warrant putting much of the nation’s population into house imprisonment, or wreaking the economy for an indefinite period of time, or prohibiting worshipers from attending their churches, synagogues or mosques, or outlawing freedom of assembly and travel, or destroying businesses that have taken years to build up, or saddling future generations with unfathomable debt? The nation is choosing to plunge millions of people into depression, heart attacks, suicide and unbelievable distress, though they are not especially vulnerable and will only suffer mild symptoms or none at all.

This is what a police state is like. It is a nation in which the government can issue orders and edicts or convey preferences with no legal authority. Yet, it appears the majority of the American people are willing to sacrifice their freedoms and way of life in order to empower such a potential police state in the guise of conquering a p******c. Governments never give up power once attained. They only seek to normalize it and now they have in their toolbox the knowledge that the citizenry will meekly acquiesce to any national emergency being declared an existential crisis which requires government to unconstitutionally impose its will on the people.

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Apr 5, 2020 20:18:00   #
Redangel62
 
Parky60 wrote:
How a Police State is Born
Steve McCann ~ April 1, 2020
The United States and much of the western world, by utilizing the most draconian of tactics, is plunging many nations into potential economic and societal chaos as they attempt to stem the tide of the Chinese C****av***s. Relying on dubious and error-prone projections, politicians and bureaucrats constitutionally or statutorily limited in their power, are now exercising near-dictatorial authority in their edicts, which are effectively suspending or terminating numerous freedoms under the guise of protecting their respective nations.

All Americans, not be just those with first-hand experience dealing with World War II and its aftermath or living in Eastern Europe under iron boot of the Soviet Union or escaping the C*******t/socialist hellholes of Cuba, Southeast Asia or Venezuela, should view these actions with considerable trepidation.

When societies lose their freedom, it is not ordinarily because autocrats or tyrants have forcibly taken it away. It is usually the result of the population willingly surrendering their freedom in return for protection against an external threat. While the threat is oftentimes real, it is invariably exaggerated.

This is what we in the United States are experiencing. The general public has been stampeded by the fearmongering in the media into demanding action from the politicians at both the state and federal level. The politicians respond and do not pause to ask whether these actions will work -- just do something! They do not ask if the financial and societal cost to the nation is worth the unknown and perhaps nebulous return.

Any student of history and human nature would recognize that these are the classic symptoms of collective hysteria. Hysteria is contagious. This nation is turning itself inside out as we, thanks to the media, are exaggerating the threat and not stopping to ask if the cure is worse than the disease.

In times like these, it is to be expected that the citizenry will look to the government for guidance and assistance. When that happens in an environment of mass hysteria, then it is unsurprising that the state will take on or assume new power, as that is what has been demanded of it. This historically has been the process which leads to the rise of authoritarianism.

Over the past four weeks and with little or no legal basis, one state governor has outbid another in their dramatic responses to the C****av***s outbreak. Invariably their actions revolve around the curtailing of individual freedom.

Arrest warrants are being issued for holding funeral services, fines are being levied for not maintaining proper distance, people are being arrested for holding gatherings of over ten people, fines and arrests are the order of the day for re-opening a business the state deems to be nonessential, and the national guard has been called out to enforce state borders and lockdowns. Pastors have been arrested for holding worship services, and in New York City the mayor has threatened to permanently close any church, synagogue or mosque that violates his lockdown order. The Second Amendment is under assault as 12 states either have ordered or are contemplating ordering all gun stores and retailers closed, thus depriving millions of their right buy a gun. Neighbors and ordinary citizens, in the best tradition of the Soviet Union and C*******t China, are being encouraged to inform the authorities if anyone they know is not adhering to state lockdown rules. Stores, deemed essential by the state, are being told what in their inventory they can and cannot sell.

Congress, faced with the task of mitigating the economic plight of the citizenry, chooses instead to expand the federal government’s power and influence over the private sector through a massive and bloated $2.2 Trillion spending package. Additionally, the politicians in both parties and the media, are clamoring for President Trump to declare a nationwide quarantine, nationalize industries, mobilize the military and in essence declare martial law.

President Trump, in contrast to the media’s portrayal of him, has not succumbed to these overtures, as he is among the few political leaders in the nation that respects the freedoms enumerated in the Constitution. But his power over the individual state governors or Congress is limited.

The defenders of these authoritarian tactics say that these extreme measures are necessary in order to save hundreds of thousands of lives. But is that just a fig leaf to permanently t***sform the society?

This is not to say that the C****av***s is not a serious health issue and steps must be taken to protect the most vulnerable sector of the population -- the elderly with significant medical conditions. The number of people infected with the v***s over the past 30 days continues to rise as the nation has dramatically expanded testing. Of those who have died, approximately 1.6 percent of total infections, we do not know how many succumbed as the direct result of the v***s or died of other ailments, as any death with the v***s present is currently being counted as a C****av***s fatality. The Italian evidence, for example, suggests that only in 12 percent of deaths is it possible to say the C****av***s was the main cause of death.

The C****av***s started in China in early December of 2019. In the subsequent four months the v***s has spread to 177 countries and more than 40,000 deaths have so far been recorded. (For updated data, click here.) At this same juncture during the Hong Kong Flu (which had many of the same symptoms as the C****av***s) p******c in 1968-69, it is estimated that were over 350,000 fatalities globally (40,000 in the United States). Eventually, over 1 million throughout the world (100,000 in the United States) died.

In its 244-year history the United States has weathered seven of the worst p******cs in world history without the hysteria and loss of liberty and freedom. All indications reveal that the C****av***s will be exponentially less life-threatening than any of these previous p******cs.

Is the C****av***s p******c serious enough to warrant putting much of the nation’s population into house imprisonment, or wreaking the economy for an indefinite period of time, or prohibiting worshipers from attending their churches, synagogues or mosques, or outlawing freedom of assembly and travel, or destroying businesses that have taken years to build up, or saddling future generations with unfathomable debt? The nation is choosing to plunge millions of people into depression, heart attacks, suicide and unbelievable distress, though they are not especially vulnerable and will only suffer mild symptoms or none at all.

This is what a police state is like. It is a nation in which the government can issue orders and edicts or convey preferences with no legal authority. Yet, it appears the majority of the American people are willing to sacrifice their freedoms and way of life in order to empower such a potential police state in the guise of conquering a p******c. Governments never give up power once attained. They only seek to normalize it and now they have in their toolbox the knowledge that the citizenry will meekly acquiesce to any national emergency being declared an existential crisis which requires government to unconstitutionally impose its will on the people.
b How a Police State is Born /b br i Steve McCa... (show quote)


Amen! They r trashing the constitution in every aspect pretty much

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Apr 5, 2020 20:56:58   #
iFrank Loc: San Antonio
 
Parky60 wrote:
How a Police State is Born
Steve McCann ~ April 1, 2020
The United States and much of the western world, by utilizing the most draconian of tactics, is plunging many nations into potential economic and societal chaos as they attempt to stem the tide of the Chinese C****av***s. Relying on dubious and error-prone projections, politicians and bureaucrats constitutionally or statutorily limited in their power, are now exercising near-dictatorial authority in their edicts, which are effectively suspending or terminating numerous freedoms under the guise of protecting their respective nations.

All Americans, not be just those with first-hand experience dealing with World War II and its aftermath or living in Eastern Europe under iron boot of the Soviet Union or escaping the C*******t/socialist hellholes of Cuba, Southeast Asia or Venezuela, should view these actions with considerable trepidation.

When societies lose their freedom, it is not ordinarily because autocrats or tyrants have forcibly taken it away. It is usually the result of the population willingly surrendering their freedom in return for protection against an external threat. While the threat is oftentimes real, it is invariably exaggerated.

This is what we in the United States are experiencing. The general public has been stampeded by the fearmongering in the media into demanding action from the politicians at both the state and federal level. The politicians respond and do not pause to ask whether these actions will work -- just do something! They do not ask if the financial and societal cost to the nation is worth the unknown and perhaps nebulous return.

Any student of history and human nature would recognize that these are the classic symptoms of collective hysteria. Hysteria is contagious. This nation is turning itself inside out as we, thanks to the media, are exaggerating the threat and not stopping to ask if the cure is worse than the disease.

In times like these, it is to be expected that the citizenry will look to the government for guidance and assistance. When that happens in an environment of mass hysteria, then it is unsurprising that the state will take on or assume new power, as that is what has been demanded of it. This historically has been the process which leads to the rise of authoritarianism.

Over the past four weeks and with little or no legal basis, one state governor has outbid another in their dramatic responses to the C****av***s outbreak. Invariably their actions revolve around the curtailing of individual freedom.

Arrest warrants are being issued for holding funeral services, fines are being levied for not maintaining proper distance, people are being arrested for holding gatherings of over ten people, fines and arrests are the order of the day for re-opening a business the state deems to be nonessential, and the national guard has been called out to enforce state borders and lockdowns. Pastors have been arrested for holding worship services, and in New York City the mayor has threatened to permanently close any church, synagogue or mosque that violates his lockdown order. The Second Amendment is under assault as 12 states either have ordered or are contemplating ordering all gun stores and retailers closed, thus depriving millions of their right buy a gun. Neighbors and ordinary citizens, in the best tradition of the Soviet Union and C*******t China, are being encouraged to inform the authorities if anyone they know is not adhering to state lockdown rules. Stores, deemed essential by the state, are being told what in their inventory they can and cannot sell.

Congress, faced with the task of mitigating the economic plight of the citizenry, chooses instead to expand the federal government’s power and influence over the private sector through a massive and bloated $2.2 Trillion spending package. Additionally, the politicians in both parties and the media, are clamoring for President Trump to declare a nationwide quarantine, nationalize industries, mobilize the military and in essence declare martial law.

President Trump, in contrast to the media’s portrayal of him, has not succumbed to these overtures, as he is among the few political leaders in the nation that respects the freedoms enumerated in the Constitution. But his power over the individual state governors or Congress is limited.

The defenders of these authoritarian tactics say that these extreme measures are necessary in order to save hundreds of thousands of lives. But is that just a fig leaf to permanently t***sform the society?

This is not to say that the C****av***s is not a serious health issue and steps must be taken to protect the most vulnerable sector of the population -- the elderly with significant medical conditions. The number of people infected with the v***s over the past 30 days continues to rise as the nation has dramatically expanded testing. Of those who have died, approximately 1.6 percent of total infections, we do not know how many succumbed as the direct result of the v***s or died of other ailments, as any death with the v***s present is currently being counted as a C****av***s fatality. The Italian evidence, for example, suggests that only in 12 percent of deaths is it possible to say the C****av***s was the main cause of death.

The C****av***s started in China in early December of 2019. In the subsequent four months the v***s has spread to 177 countries and more than 40,000 deaths have so far been recorded. (For updated data, click here.) At this same juncture during the Hong Kong Flu (which had many of the same symptoms as the C****av***s) p******c in 1968-69, it is estimated that were over 350,000 fatalities globally (40,000 in the United States). Eventually, over 1 million throughout the world (100,000 in the United States) died.

In its 244-year history the United States has weathered seven of the worst p******cs in world history without the hysteria and loss of liberty and freedom. All indications reveal that the C****av***s will be exponentially less life-threatening than any of these previous p******cs.

Is the C****av***s p******c serious enough to warrant putting much of the nation’s population into house imprisonment, or wreaking the economy for an indefinite period of time, or prohibiting worshipers from attending their churches, synagogues or mosques, or outlawing freedom of assembly and travel, or destroying businesses that have taken years to build up, or saddling future generations with unfathomable debt? The nation is choosing to plunge millions of people into depression, heart attacks, suicide and unbelievable distress, though they are not especially vulnerable and will only suffer mild symptoms or none at all.

This is what a police state is like. It is a nation in which the government can issue orders and edicts or convey preferences with no legal authority. Yet, it appears the majority of the American people are willing to sacrifice their freedoms and way of life in order to empower such a potential police state in the guise of conquering a p******c. Governments never give up power once attained. They only seek to normalize it and now they have in their toolbox the knowledge that the citizenry will meekly acquiesce to any national emergency being declared an existential crisis which requires government to unconstitutionally impose its will on the people.
b How a Police State is Born /b br i Steve McCa... (show quote)


Don’t encourage an i**********n among the people, Jesus said to follow the governmental law of your city. It’s for your own good if you a Christian, God in control so do in His Will.

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Apr 5, 2020 20:59:45   #
Auntie Dee
 
Parky60 wrote:
How a Police State is Born
Steve McCann ~ April 1, 2020
The United States and much of the western world, by utilizing the most draconian of tactics, is plunging many nations into potential economic and societal chaos as they attempt to stem the tide of the Chinese C****av***s. Relying on dubious and error-prone projections, politicians and bureaucrats constitutionally or statutorily limited in their power, are now exercising near-dictatorial authority in their edicts, which are effectively suspending or terminating numerous freedoms under the guise of protecting their respective nations.

All Americans, not be just those with first-hand experience dealing with World War II and its aftermath or living in Eastern Europe under iron boot of the Soviet Union or escaping the C*******t/socialist hellholes of Cuba, Southeast Asia or Venezuela, should view these actions with considerable trepidation.

When societies lose their freedom, it is not ordinarily because autocrats or tyrants have forcibly taken it away. It is usually the result of the population willingly surrendering their freedom in return for protection against an external threat. While the threat is oftentimes real, it is invariably exaggerated.

This is what we in the United States are experiencing. The general public has been stampeded by the fearmongering in the media into demanding action from the politicians at both the state and federal level. The politicians respond and do not pause to ask whether these actions will work -- just do something! They do not ask if the financial and societal cost to the nation is worth the unknown and perhaps nebulous return.

Any student of history and human nature would recognize that these are the classic symptoms of collective hysteria. Hysteria is contagious. This nation is turning itself inside out as we, thanks to the media, are exaggerating the threat and not stopping to ask if the cure is worse than the disease.

In times like these, it is to be expected that the citizenry will look to the government for guidance and assistance. When that happens in an environment of mass hysteria, then it is unsurprising that the state will take on or assume new power, as that is what has been demanded of it. This historically has been the process which leads to the rise of authoritarianism.

Over the past four weeks and with little or no legal basis, one state governor has outbid another in their dramatic responses to the C****av***s outbreak. Invariably their actions revolve around the curtailing of individual freedom.

Arrest warrants are being issued for holding funeral services, fines are being levied for not maintaining proper distance, people are being arrested for holding gatherings of over ten people, fines and arrests are the order of the day for re-opening a business the state deems to be nonessential, and the national guard has been called out to enforce state borders and lockdowns. Pastors have been arrested for holding worship services, and in New York City the mayor has threatened to permanently close any church, synagogue or mosque that violates his lockdown order. The Second Amendment is under assault as 12 states either have ordered or are contemplating ordering all gun stores and retailers closed, thus depriving millions of their right buy a gun. Neighbors and ordinary citizens, in the best tradition of the Soviet Union and C*******t China, are being encouraged to inform the authorities if anyone they know is not adhering to state lockdown rules. Stores, deemed essential by the state, are being told what in their inventory they can and cannot sell.

Congress, faced with the task of mitigating the economic plight of the citizenry, chooses instead to expand the federal government’s power and influence over the private sector through a massive and bloated $2.2 Trillion spending package. Additionally, the politicians in both parties and the media, are clamoring for President Trump to declare a nationwide quarantine, nationalize industries, mobilize the military and in essence declare martial law.

President Trump, in contrast to the media’s portrayal of him, has not succumbed to these overtures, as he is among the few political leaders in the nation that respects the freedoms enumerated in the Constitution. But his power over the individual state governors or Congress is limited.

The defenders of these authoritarian tactics say that these extreme measures are necessary in order to save hundreds of thousands of lives. But is that just a fig leaf to permanently t***sform the society?

This is not to say that the C****av***s is not a serious health issue and steps must be taken to protect the most vulnerable sector of the population -- the elderly with significant medical conditions. The number of people infected with the v***s over the past 30 days continues to rise as the nation has dramatically expanded testing. Of those who have died, approximately 1.6 percent of total infections, we do not know how many succumbed as the direct result of the v***s or died of other ailments, as any death with the v***s present is currently being counted as a C****av***s fatality. The Italian evidence, for example, suggests that only in 12 percent of deaths is it possible to say the C****av***s was the main cause of death.

The C****av***s started in China in early December of 2019. In the subsequent four months the v***s has spread to 177 countries and more than 40,000 deaths have so far been recorded. (For updated data, click here.) At this same juncture during the Hong Kong Flu (which had many of the same symptoms as the C****av***s) p******c in 1968-69, it is estimated that were over 350,000 fatalities globally (40,000 in the United States). Eventually, over 1 million throughout the world (100,000 in the United States) died.

In its 244-year history the United States has weathered seven of the worst p******cs in world history without the hysteria and loss of liberty and freedom. All indications reveal that the C****av***s will be exponentially less life-threatening than any of these previous p******cs.

Is the C****av***s p******c serious enough to warrant putting much of the nation’s population into house imprisonment, or wreaking the economy for an indefinite period of time, or prohibiting worshipers from attending their churches, synagogues or mosques, or outlawing freedom of assembly and travel, or destroying businesses that have taken years to build up, or saddling future generations with unfathomable debt? The nation is choosing to plunge millions of people into depression, heart attacks, suicide and unbelievable distress, though they are not especially vulnerable and will only suffer mild symptoms or none at all.

This is what a police state is like. It is a nation in which the government can issue orders and edicts or convey preferences with no legal authority. Yet, it appears the majority of the American people are willing to sacrifice their freedoms and way of life in order to empower such a potential police state in the guise of conquering a p******c. Governments never give up power once attained. They only seek to normalize it and now they have in their toolbox the knowledge that the citizenry will meekly acquiesce to any national emergency being declared an existential crisis which requires government to unconstitutionally impose its will on the people.
b How a Police State is Born /b br i Steve McCa... (show quote)


I absolutely agree & further believe that old George Soros has an invisible hand in all of this! We should never have let the MSM control our lives, as they are the main criers of this crisis!

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Apr 5, 2020 21:55:24   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
iFrank wrote:
Don’t encourage an i**********n among the people, Jesus said to follow the governmental law of your city. It’s for your own good if you a Christian, God in control so do in His Will.

I am not suggesting i**********n by the people. I am a watchman who is sounding the trumpet. As for following governmental law, in the New Testament, the book of Acts records the civil disobedience of Peter and John towards the authorities that were in power at the time. After Peter healed a man born lame, Peter and John were arrested for preaching about Jesus and put in jail. The religious authorities were determined to stop them from teaching about Jesus. However, Peter said, “Whether it is right in the sight of God to give heed to you rather than to God, you be the judge; for we cannot stop speaking about what we have seen and heard” (Acts 4:19–20). Later, the rulers confronted the apostles again and reminded them of their command to not teach about Jesus, but Peter responded, “We must obey God rather than men” (Acts 5:29).

I am obeying God and not you to warn the people.

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Apr 5, 2020 22:18:40   #
Sicilianthing
 
Parky60 wrote:
How a Police State is Born
Steve McCann ~ April 1, 2020
The United States and much of the western world, by utilizing the most draconian of tactics, is plunging many nations into potential economic and societal chaos as they attempt to stem the tide of the Chinese C****av***s. Relying on dubious and error-prone projections, politicians and bureaucrats constitutionally or statutorily limited in their power, are now exercising near-dictatorial authority in their edicts, which are effectively suspending or terminating numerous freedoms under the guise of protecting their respective nations.

All Americans, not be just those with first-hand experience dealing with World War II and its aftermath or living in Eastern Europe under iron boot of the Soviet Union or escaping the C*******t/socialist hellholes of Cuba, Southeast Asia or Venezuela, should view these actions with considerable trepidation.

When societies lose their freedom, it is not ordinarily because autocrats or tyrants have forcibly taken it away. It is usually the result of the population willingly surrendering their freedom in return for protection against an external threat. While the threat is oftentimes real, it is invariably exaggerated.

This is what we in the United States are experiencing. The general public has been stampeded by the fearmongering in the media into demanding action from the politicians at both the state and federal level. The politicians respond and do not pause to ask whether these actions will work -- just do something! They do not ask if the financial and societal cost to the nation is worth the unknown and perhaps nebulous return.

Any student of history and human nature would recognize that these are the classic symptoms of collective hysteria. Hysteria is contagious. This nation is turning itself inside out as we, thanks to the media, are exaggerating the threat and not stopping to ask if the cure is worse than the disease.

In times like these, it is to be expected that the citizenry will look to the government for guidance and assistance. When that happens in an environment of mass hysteria, then it is unsurprising that the state will take on or assume new power, as that is what has been demanded of it. This historically has been the process which leads to the rise of authoritarianism.

Over the past four weeks and with little or no legal basis, one state governor has outbid another in their dramatic responses to the C****av***s outbreak. Invariably their actions revolve around the curtailing of individual freedom.

Arrest warrants are being issued for holding funeral services, fines are being levied for not maintaining proper distance, people are being arrested for holding gatherings of over ten people, fines and arrests are the order of the day for re-opening a business the state deems to be nonessential, and the national guard has been called out to enforce state borders and lockdowns. Pastors have been arrested for holding worship services, and in New York City the mayor has threatened to permanently close any church, synagogue or mosque that violates his lockdown order. The Second Amendment is under assault as 12 states either have ordered or are contemplating ordering all gun stores and retailers closed, thus depriving millions of their right buy a gun. Neighbors and ordinary citizens, in the best tradition of the Soviet Union and C*******t China, are being encouraged to inform the authorities if anyone they know is not adhering to state lockdown rules. Stores, deemed essential by the state, are being told what in their inventory they can and cannot sell.

Congress, faced with the task of mitigating the economic plight of the citizenry, chooses instead to expand the federal government’s power and influence over the private sector through a massive and bloated $2.2 Trillion spending package. Additionally, the politicians in both parties and the media, are clamoring for President Trump to declare a nationwide quarantine, nationalize industries, mobilize the military and in essence declare martial law.

President Trump, in contrast to the media’s portrayal of him, has not succumbed to these overtures, as he is among the few political leaders in the nation that respects the freedoms enumerated in the Constitution. But his power over the individual state governors or Congress is limited.

The defenders of these authoritarian tactics say that these extreme measures are necessary in order to save hundreds of thousands of lives. But is that just a fig leaf to permanently t***sform the society?

This is not to say that the C****av***s is not a serious health issue and steps must be taken to protect the most vulnerable sector of the population -- the elderly with significant medical conditions. The number of people infected with the v***s over the past 30 days continues to rise as the nation has dramatically expanded testing. Of those who have died, approximately 1.6 percent of total infections, we do not know how many succumbed as the direct result of the v***s or died of other ailments, as any death with the v***s present is currently being counted as a C****av***s fatality. The Italian evidence, for example, suggests that only in 12 percent of deaths is it possible to say the C****av***s was the main cause of death.

The C****av***s started in China in early December of 2019. In the subsequent four months the v***s has spread to 177 countries and more than 40,000 deaths have so far been recorded. (For updated data, click here.) At this same juncture during the Hong Kong Flu (which had many of the same symptoms as the C****av***s) p******c in 1968-69, it is estimated that were over 350,000 fatalities globally (40,000 in the United States). Eventually, over 1 million throughout the world (100,000 in the United States) died.

In its 244-year history the United States has weathered seven of the worst p******cs in world history without the hysteria and loss of liberty and freedom. All indications reveal that the C****av***s will be exponentially less life-threatening than any of these previous p******cs.

Is the C****av***s p******c serious enough to warrant putting much of the nation’s population into house imprisonment, or wreaking the economy for an indefinite period of time, or prohibiting worshipers from attending their churches, synagogues or mosques, or outlawing freedom of assembly and travel, or destroying businesses that have taken years to build up, or saddling future generations with unfathomable debt? The nation is choosing to plunge millions of people into depression, heart attacks, suicide and unbelievable distress, though they are not especially vulnerable and will only suffer mild symptoms or none at all.

This is what a police state is like. It is a nation in which the government can issue orders and edicts or convey preferences with no legal authority. Yet, it appears the majority of the American people are willing to sacrifice their freedoms and way of life in order to empower such a potential police state in the guise of conquering a p******c. Governments never give up power once attained. They only seek to normalize it and now they have in their toolbox the knowledge that the citizenry will meekly acquiesce to any national emergency being declared an existential crisis which requires government to unconstitutionally impose its will on the people.
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Apr 5, 2020 23:24:44   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
I agree that we are slowly losing liberties we have taken for granted and for the most part, I wouldn't trust these politicians to take out my garbage or shine my shoes. Some are really okay, but at time like this, it gets hard to tell the difference. Think TERM LIMITS before it is to late. Never surrender your guns, or rights to own them or buy them any time you want to buy one. That is what the second amendment is really about, protecting yourself and all of America from the tyranny of the politicians. And Lawyers.

For us oldsters, we might still miss this. But for you young people, your freedom will pass before you realize it unless you start now, defending the Bill Of Rights, at every turn. And turn out any politician who would limit those rights. At every opportunity.

Logically Right

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Apr 5, 2020 23:32:18   #
Sicilianthing
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
I agree that we are slowly losing liberties we have taken for granted and for the most part, I wouldn't trust these politicians to take out my garbage or shine my shoes. Some are really okay, but at time like this, it gets hard to tell the difference. Think TERM LIMITS before it is to late. Never surrender your guns, or rights to own them or buy them any time you want to buy one. That is what the second amendment is really about, protecting yourself and all of America from the tyranny of the politicians. And Lawyers.

For us oldsters, we might still miss this. But for you young people, your freedom will pass before you realize it unless you start now, defending the Bill Of Rights, at every turn. And turn out any politician who would limit those rights. At every opportunity.

Logically Right
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Apr 6, 2020 13:37:18   #
Mike Easterday
 
Just look at the 1968 Gun Control Act! People were giving up the Second Amendment back then .

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Apr 6, 2020 17:45:16   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
Redangel62 wrote:
Amen! They r trashing the constitution in every aspect pretty much


Trying their best, but it's not enough.

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Apr 6, 2020 17:47:17   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
I agree that we are slowly losing liberties we have taken for granted and for the most part, I wouldn't trust these politicians to take out my garbage or shine my shoes. Some are really okay, but at time like this, it gets hard to tell the difference. Think TERM LIMITS before it is to late. Never surrender your guns, or rights to own them or buy them any time you want to buy one. That is what the second amendment is really about, protecting yourself and all of America from the tyranny of the politicians. And Lawyers.

For us oldsters, we might still miss this. But for you young people, your freedom will pass before you realize it unless you start now, defending the Bill Of Rights, at every turn. And turn out any politician who would limit those rights. At every opportunity.

Logically Right
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It's never too late for us, we have the knowledge.

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Apr 6, 2020 17:49:16   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
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Done. I've joined 3 and have a radio so the others can be in contact.

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Apr 6, 2020 18:46:11   #
Redangel62
 
Auntie Dee wrote:
I absolutely agree & further believe that old George Soros has an invisible hand in all of this! We should never have let the MSM control our lives, as they are the main criers of this crisis!


Ole soros says he is putting all his funds into the democratic regime

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Apr 7, 2020 13:57:42   #
iFrank Loc: San Antonio
 
Parky60 wrote:
I am not suggesting i**********n by the people. I am a watchman who is sounding the trumpet. As for following governmental law, in the New Testament, the book of Acts records the civil disobedience of Peter and John towards the authorities that were in power at the time. After Peter healed a man born lame, Peter and John were arrested for preaching about Jesus and put in jail. The religious authorities were determined to stop them from teaching about Jesus. However, Peter said, “Whether it is right in the sight of God to give heed to you rather than to God, you be the judge; for we cannot stop speaking about what we have seen and heard” (Acts 4:19–20). Later, the rulers confronted the apostles again and reminded them of their command to not teach about Jesus, but Peter responded, “We must obey God rather than men” (Acts 5:29).

I am obeying God and not you to warn the people.
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GOD is in control weighing all, including appointed people in office, that His plan for this earth age to see how if the soul of a person is good or evil. How can He do that if a person isn't allowed to do good or evil in his own sight. for GOD raises kings and brings them down.

In Hebrews Paul writes, "Obey them that have rule over you and submit yourself for they watch for your souls as they must give account:that they may do it with joy and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you."

Every person that doesn't submit will in essence hinder GODs gathering proof for His Judging. Now I wouldn't want to go against His Word, would you. PS there is no rapture so don't encourage the virgins to go out only to come back and have the door shut on them, and He saying "I never knew you".

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