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These 9 states are being an i***ts!!
Apr 4, 2020 19:25:55   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Arkansas,Iowa,Nebraska , North Dakota , Oklahoma , South Dakota ,South Carolina,Utah,Wyoming have not implemented " Stay at Home " orders yet!!! What are they waiting for??

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Apr 4, 2020 19:32:53   #
woodguru
 
proud republican wrote:
Nebraska , North Dakota , Oklahoma , South Dakota ,South Carolina,Utah,Wyoming have not implemented " Stay at Home " orders yet!!! What are they waiting for??


They are waiting for orders, they can't do it until they have shade from the chief. Trump will say it's up to each governor, they will say they were going by what his orders were/not.

The right is going to get this just like Italians did when they ignored this for five weeks, they are then going to hear clip after cli[ of the right wing and trump downplaying. This is trump's fault, he ignored two months worth of warnings and time to prepare

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Apr 4, 2020 19:46:49   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
[quote=woodguru]They are waiting for orders, they can't do it until they have shade from the chief. Trump will say it's up to each governor, they will say they were going by what his orders were/not.

The right is going to get this just like Italians did when they ignored this for five weeks, they are then going to hear clip after cli[ of the right wing and trump downplaying. This is trump's fault, he ignored two months worth of warnings and time to prepare[/quote]

It's not Trump's fault!! Governors are in charge of their own states!!

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Apr 4, 2020 19:55:56   #
Gatsby
 
proud republican wrote:
Arkansas,Iowa,Nebraska , North Dakota , Oklahoma , South Dakota ,South Carolina,Utah,Wyoming have not implemented " Stay at Home " orders yet!!! What are they waiting for??


Those with even a trace of common sense will stay at home, without being ordered to do so.

We are adults, we do not need to be "grounded" to behave in a responsible manner.

It's a real shame that all 50 states cannot rely on basic "COMMON SENSE".

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Apr 4, 2020 20:01:16   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Gatsby wrote:
Those with even a trace of common sense will stay at home, without being ordered to do so.

We are adults, we do not need to be "grounded" to behave in a responsible manner.

It's a real shame that all 50 states cannot rely on basic "COMMON SENSE".


True!

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Apr 4, 2020 21:49:11   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
proud republican wrote:
Arkansas,Iowa,Nebraska , North Dakota , Oklahoma , South Dakota ,South Carolina,Utah,Wyoming have not implemented " Stay at Home " orders yet!!! What are they waiting for??


People are not taking it seriously... Parts of Europe are still ignoring it as well....

And many Canadians refuse to follow the guidelines...

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Apr 4, 2020 21:49:30   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Gatsby wrote:
Those with even a trace of common sense will stay at home, without being ordered to do so.

We are adults, we do not need to be "grounded" to behave in a responsible manner.

It's a real shame that all 50 states cannot rely on basic "COMMON SENSE".


Exactly

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Apr 6, 2020 16:03:56   #
Gatsby
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Exactly


The numbers that the MSM does NOT like to talk about.

The University of Washington’s Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) now predicts that 81,766 people will die of C****-** in the U.S. through early August. When the model was last updated, on April 2, it predicted 11,765 deaths more deaths, for a total of 93,531.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/key-c****av***s-model-now-predicts-many-fewer-us-deaths/ar-?li=BBB12edu1Bnb7Kz&ocid=iehp

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Apr 6, 2020 16:39:50   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
proud republican wrote:
Arkansas,Iowa,Nebraska , North Dakota , Oklahoma , South Dakota ,South Carolina,Utah,Wyoming have not implemented " Stay at Home " orders yet!!! What are they waiting for??
Good for them. We don't need a government mandate to follow the guidelines for protecting ourselves.

Unbelievable that someone who got the hell out of Russia would approve of such a thing.

Way I see it, if this "Stay at Home" bulls**t goes on much longer it will prove to be far more destructive than the v***s itself. It has already taken an incredible toll on our economy, and that includes severely hamstringing our medical and healthcare systems, and t***sportation of critical items such as food. That alone is going to cost lives.

Trump Is Right: Economic Shutdown Will Result in Deadly Health Crisis, Scientists Say

A fiasco in the making? As the c****av***s p******c takes hold, we are making decisions without reliable data

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Apr 6, 2020 16:45:08   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Good for them. We don't need a government mandate to follow the guidelines for protecting ourselves.

Unbelievable that someone who got the hell out of Russia would approve of such a thing.

Way I see it, if this "Stay at Home" bulls**t goes on much longer it will prove to be far more destructive than the v***s itself. It has already taken an incredible toll on our economy, and that includes severely hamstringing our medical and healthcare systems, and t***sportation of critical items such as food. That alone is going to cost lives.

Trump Is Right: Economic Shutdown Will Result in Deadly Health Crisis, Scientists Say

A fiasco in the making? As the c****av***s p******c takes hold, we are making decisions without reliable data
Good for them. We don't need a government mandate ... (show quote)


We should "Stay at Home" until at least the end of this month!!And hopefully it will help us at the end and people can go back to work sooner than predicted!

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Apr 6, 2020 20:08:42   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Gatsby wrote:
The numbers that the MSM does NOT like to talk about.

The University of Washington’s Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) now predicts that 81,766 people will die of C****-** in the U.S. through early August. When the model was last updated, on April 2, it predicted 11,765 deaths more deaths, for a total of 93,531.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/key-c****av***s-model-now-predicts-many-fewer-us-deaths/ar-?li=BBB12edu1Bnb7Kz&ocid=iehp


I would hope that the more measures that are taken the fewer people that would die...


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Apr 6, 2020 20:10:44   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Good for them. We don't need a government mandate to follow the guidelines for protecting ourselves.

Unbelievable that someone who got the hell out of Russia would approve of such a thing.

Way I see it, if this "Stay at Home" bulls**t goes on much longer it will prove to be far more destructive than the v***s itself. It has already taken an incredible toll on our economy, and that includes severely hamstringing our medical and healthcare systems, and t***sportation of critical items such as food. That alone is going to cost lives.

Trump Is Right: Economic Shutdown Will Result in Deadly Health Crisis, Scientists Say

A fiasco in the making? As the c****av***s p******c takes hold, we are making decisions without reliable data
Good for them. We don't need a government mandate ... (show quote)


Healthcare and t***sportation are deemed essential services.... How is the stay at home order hampering them?

China kept the hospitals open and the food coming during the worst of the lockdown.... How is America unable to do this when half the country is still up and about?

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Apr 6, 2020 21:10:37   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Healthcare and t***sportation are deemed essential services.... How is the stay at home order hampering them?

China kept the hospitals open and the food coming during the worst of the lockdown.... How is America unable to do this when half the country is still up and about?
Healthcare and t***sportation are deemed essential... (show quote)
In many of the shutdown states, truckers have no problem getting fuel, but they are not allowed in the cafes or the use of lounges, rest rooms and showers, and they are not allowed to use facilities at their point of pickups and deliveries. One governor even tried to shut down interstate rest stops.

A single track major railroad runs through the town in which I live. Never before have I seen completely empty trains come through here. Mile long trains of empty flat cars, not a shipping container in sight.

Regarding hospitals and healthcare, read on.

Shutdown, not c****av***s, is causing loss of medical personnel

How many people will die because state governments are issuing erratic orders to suspend vital medical procedures?

Call it common core science being dictated by common core math of the erratic models and simulations from Drs. Anthony F***i and Deborah Birx. Most medical care is shut down in the country to deal with the flow of C****-** patients predicted by their models. Then when those models fail to materialize and hospitals are empty from the mythical surge, outside of a few hot spots, medical personnel are furloughed and we are left with the worst of both worlds.

We are told by our new dictators that destroying the entire country from head to toe was worth it in order to save lives of those afflicted with C****-**, mainly in the New York City area. But what if, in addition to the destroyed jobs and economy and all the lives being lost as an indirect result of the v***s, we are also directly destroying lives of other health care patients who cannot get care because of the overbroad and arbitrary shutdown?

In nearly every state, “elective” medical care has been shut down. Now, that might make sense in New York City, where you want to marshal your medical resources to combat C****-**. But in most other parts of the country, not only are they not overrun with patients, but thanks to the government’s circular logic of shutting down other medical care, they have no patients and are now furloughing staff. At a time when we need to build up our medical personnel, we are actually cutting them, in addition to keeping many Americans in pain.


<SNIP>

P.S. This article in its entirety was broadcast on syndicated radio today.

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Apr 6, 2020 21:14:11   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
In many of the shutdown states, truckers have no problem getting fuel, but they are not allowed in the cafes or the use of lounges, rest rooms and showers, and they are not allowed to use facilities at their point of pickups and deliveries. One governor even tried to shut down interstate rest stops.

A single track major railroad runs through the town in which I live. Never before have I seen completely empty trains come through here. Mile long trains of empty flat cars, not a shipping container in sight.

Regarding hospitals and healthcare, read on.

Shutdown, not c****av***s, is causing loss of medical personnel

How many people will die because state governments are issuing erratic orders to suspend vital medical procedures?

Call it common core science being dictated by common core math of the erratic models and simulations from Drs. Anthony F***i and Deborah Birx. Most medical care is shut down in the country to deal with the flow of C****-** patients predicted by their models. Then when those models fail to materialize and hospitals are empty from the mythical surge, outside of a few hot spots, medical personnel are furloughed and we are left with the worst of both worlds.

We are told by our new dictators that destroying the entire country from head to toe was worth it in order to save lives of those afflicted with C****-**, mainly in the New York City area. But what if, in addition to the destroyed jobs and economy and all the lives being lost as an indirect result of the v***s, we are also directly destroying lives of other health care patients who cannot get care because of the overbroad and arbitrary shutdown?

In nearly every state, “elective” medical care has been shut down. Now, that might make sense in New York City, where you want to marshal your medical resources to combat C****-**. But in most other parts of the country, not only are they not overrun with patients, but thanks to the government’s circular logic of shutting down other medical care, they have no patients and are now furloughing staff. At a time when we need to build up our medical personnel, we are actually cutting them, in addition to keeping many Americans in pain.


<SNIP>

P.S. This article in its entirety was broadcast on syndicated radio today.
In many of the shutdown states, truckers have no p... (show quote)


Seems like certain states need to get their heads screwed on straight...

I really don't know what to say...

Although Canada is having some of the same issues

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Apr 6, 2020 21:51:34   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Seems like certain states need to get their heads screwed on straight...

I really don't know what to say...

Although Canada is having some of the same issues
Governors shutting down their states are acting on unreliable data, most of which is being generated through computer modeling. This is a job for the medical professionals and pharmaceutical companies, not government bureaucrats with access to computers.

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