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Apr 1, 2020 00:21:56   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Lessons We Can Learn from China's Response to V***s - US Expat
OneTubeDaily
Source: China Daily

"If you understand the spirit of ancient China and why foreigners have such a great respect for both China's government and people, you'll also understand why Chinese today are able to tackle such formidable foes -- poverty, hunger and the borderless battle with the c****av***s," Dr. William N. Brown said.

Brown, from the United States, is a business professor at southern China's Xiamen University. He moved to the coastal city with his wife and sons in 1988 and became the first foreigner to obtain permanent residence in Fujian in 1992.

When the epidemic broke out, Brown was in California, taking care of his 90-year-old mother-in-law. But he stayed tuned for developments regarding the epidemic in China.

With novel c****av***s spreading across the globe, Brown tried to share his feelings and reflections in his residence in China and in the US to see why China can take the high ground in the fight against the epidemic.

Choose Between Laws and Life

"Some of the wealthiest nations not only lack toilet paper but also don't have v***s test kits, even 10 weeks after China shared the v***s genome with the world. Why on earth are these nations so unprepared?" he asked.

"Even a little logic should have suggested that the v***s is coming but they not only did not prepare, they also went to great lengths to explain why their 'democracies' could not take China's lead," Brown said. "Even a week ago, western media were writing how China's acrimonious measures, such as quarantines and restrictions on travel, deprived people of their basic rights of freedom of movement."

In his view, with the epidemic evolved into a p******c, governments from different countries scrambled to implement many of China's measures.

"Some places, like San Francisco, are careful to avoid the word "quarantine" which violates people's inalienable right of movement. But they did order people to shelter-in-place which may sound kinder and "democratic", Brown said. He noted that both expressions refer to the same meaning.

"Sounds to me like however you word it, it is still restricting people's movement, but these restrictions are needed. So do you pretend they are not?" he said.

For two months western countries criticized China while they themselves didn't do anything.

According to Brown, this can be traced to two reasons: On the one hand, the former naively thought they could avoid danger from the v***s, which is understandable because the flood of information makes the epidemic that broke out in other country look unreal.

On the other hand, people living in a wealthy country get used to cozy lives and think their wealth is able to shield them. Just as over the past decades, they successfully stayed out of trouble when wars, violate crime, and political turmoil afflicted countless people in countries stuck in poverty.

The v***s sees no borders and social status. Everyone is susceptible to it with no exception. But some countries didn't realize that until it was too late.

The Right to Life Matters Most

Fortunately, the Chinese government promptly responded to protect people's lives. It placed a v***s v*****e into clinical trials and promised to share it with the world once it works.

All Chinese are stoically making joint efforts to ride out this difficult time while the government resolves to sacrifice the speed of economic development to some extent.

Today's Chinese people love their lives as passionately as their forefathers. They treasure their lives to the utmost and enjoy living with their loved ones while the government shares the same view and upholds people's well-being to its heart.

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Apr 1, 2020 00:45:54   #
JW
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Lessons We Can Learn from China's Response to V***s - US Expat
OneTubeDaily
Source: China Daily

"If you understand the spirit of ancient China and why foreigners have such a great respect for both China's government and people, you'll also understand why Chinese today are able to tackle such formidable foes -- poverty, hunger and the borderless battle with the c****av***s," Dr. William N. Brown said.

Brown, from the United States, is a business professor at southern China's Xiamen University. He moved to the coastal city with his wife and sons in 1988 and became the first foreigner to obtain permanent residence in Fujian in 1992.

When the epidemic broke out, Brown was in California, taking care of his 90-year-old mother-in-law. But he stayed tuned for developments regarding the epidemic in China.

With novel c****av***s spreading across the globe, Brown tried to share his feelings and reflections in his residence in China and in the US to see why China can take the high ground in the fight against the epidemic.

Choose Between Laws and Life

"Some of the wealthiest nations not only lack toilet paper but also don't have v***s test kits, even 10 weeks after China shared the v***s genome with the world. Why on earth are these nations so unprepared?" he asked.

"Even a little logic should have suggested that the v***s is coming but they not only did not prepare, they also went to great lengths to explain why their 'democracies' could not take China's lead," Brown said. "Even a week ago, western media were writing how China's acrimonious measures, such as quarantines and restrictions on travel, deprived people of their basic rights of freedom of movement."

In his view, with the epidemic evolved into a p******c, governments from different countries scrambled to implement many of China's measures.

"Some places, like San Francisco, are careful to avoid the word "quarantine" which violates people's inalienable right of movement. But they did order people to shelter-in-place which may sound kinder and "democratic", Brown said. He noted that both expressions refer to the same meaning.

"Sounds to me like however you word it, it is still restricting people's movement, but these restrictions are needed. So do you pretend they are not?" he said.

For two months western countries criticized China while they themselves didn't do anything.

According to Brown, this can be traced to two reasons: On the one hand, the former naively thought they could avoid danger from the v***s, which is understandable because the flood of information makes the epidemic that broke out in other country look unreal.

On the other hand, people living in a wealthy country get used to cozy lives and think their wealth is able to shield them. Just as over the past decades, they successfully stayed out of trouble when wars, violate crime, and political turmoil afflicted countless people in countries stuck in poverty.

The v***s sees no borders and social status. Everyone is susceptible to it with no exception. But some countries didn't realize that until it was too late.

The Right to Life Matters Most

Fortunately, the Chinese government promptly responded to protect people's lives. It placed a v***s v*****e into clinical trials and promised to share it with the world once it works.

All Chinese are stoically making joint efforts to ride out this difficult time while the government resolves to sacrifice the speed of economic development to some extent.

Today's Chinese people love their lives as passionately as their forefathers. They treasure their lives to the utmost and enjoy living with their loved ones while the government shares the same view and upholds people's well-being to its heart.
Lessons We Can Learn from China's Response to V***... (show quote)


Published after Trump Jan. 31,2020 travel restrictions:

Feb. 1,2020 Trump orders travel bans and quarantines https://www.westernjournal.com/trump-bans-travel-china-orders-1st-quarantine-50-years/

Feb. 1,2020 China angry at US for travel bans https://pjmedia.com/trending/china-angry-at-u-s-c****av***s-v***s-travel-restrictions-not-a-gesture-of-goodwill/

The South China Morning Post on Friday memorialized Li as a hero and recalled how the Chinese government lied shamelessly about him and seven fellow whistleblowers at every turn:https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2020/02/07/people-grieving-furious-china-admits-botched-case-whistleblower-doctor/

Mar.20, 2020 China hid c****a v***s problem and punished whistleblowers https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/mar/20/china-hid-c****av***s-admonished-whistleblowers/

I may add more of this .

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Apr 1, 2020 00:51:36   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
JW wrote:
Published after Trump Jan. 31,2020 travel restrictions:

Feb. 1,2020 Trump orders travel bans and quarantines https://www.westernjournal.com/trump-bans-travel-china-orders-1st-quarantine-50-years/

Feb. 1,2020 China angry at US for travel bans https://pjmedia.com/trending/china-angry-at-u-s-c****av***s-v***s-travel-restrictions-not-a-gesture-of-goodwill/

I may add more of this .


And?

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Apr 1, 2020 00:57:59   #
JW
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
And?


The incessant spin and outright lies coming from all sides of this thing are entirely infuriating. Let's lay out the facts sans political considerations.

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Apr 1, 2020 01:01:30   #
newbear Loc: New York City
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Lessons We Can Learn from China's Response to V***s - US Expat
OneTubeDaily
Source: China Daily

"If you understand the spirit of ancient China and why foreigners have such a great respect for both China's government and people, you'll also understand why Chinese today are able to tackle such formidable foes -- poverty, hunger and the borderless battle with the c****av***s," Dr. William N. Brown said.

Brown, from the United States, is a business professor at southern China's Xiamen University. He moved to the coastal city with his wife and sons in 1988 and became the first foreigner to obtain permanent residence in Fujian in 1992.

When the epidemic broke out, Brown was in California, taking care of his 90-year-old mother-in-law. But he stayed tuned for developments regarding the epidemic in China.

With novel c****av***s spreading across the globe, Brown tried to share his feelings and reflections in his residence in China and in the US to see why China can take the high ground in the fight against the epidemic.

Choose Between Laws and Life

"Some of the wealthiest nations not only lack toilet paper but also don't have v***s test kits, even 10 weeks after China shared the v***s genome with the world. Why on earth are these nations so unprepared?" he asked.

"Even a little logic should have suggested that the v***s is coming but they not only did not prepare, they also went to great lengths to explain why their 'democracies' could not take China's lead," Brown said. "Even a week ago, western media were writing how China's acrimonious measures, such as quarantines and restrictions on travel, deprived people of their basic rights of freedom of movement."

In his view, with the epidemic evolved into a p******c, governments from different countries scrambled to implement many of China's measures.

"Some places, like San Francisco, are careful to avoid the word "quarantine" which violates people's inalienable right of movement. But they did order people to shelter-in-place which may sound kinder and "democratic", Brown said. He noted that both expressions refer to the same meaning.

"Sounds to me like however you word it, it is still restricting people's movement, but these restrictions are needed. So do you pretend they are not?" he said.

For two months western countries criticized China while they themselves didn't do anything.

According to Brown, this can be traced to two reasons: On the one hand, the former naively thought they could avoid danger from the v***s, which is understandable because the flood of information makes the epidemic that broke out in other country look unreal.

On the other hand, people living in a wealthy country get used to cozy lives and think their wealth is able to shield them. Just as over the past decades, they successfully stayed out of trouble when wars, violate crime, and political turmoil afflicted countless people in countries stuck in poverty.

The v***s sees no borders and social status. Everyone is susceptible to it with no exception. But some countries didn't realize that until it was too late.

The Right to Life Matters Most

Fortunately, the Chinese government promptly responded to protect people's lives. It placed a v***s v*****e into clinical trials and promised to share it with the world once it works.

All Chinese are stoically making joint efforts to ride out this difficult time while the government resolves to sacrifice the speed of economic development to some extent.

Today's Chinese people love their lives as passionately as their forefathers. They treasure their lives to the utmost and enjoy living with their loved ones while the government shares the same view and upholds people's well-being to its heart.
Lessons We Can Learn from China's Response to V***... (show quote)


Han-uckus Deploracus

what a brazen propaganda piece invoking thoughts of one Prof. Brown. Brown who?
While I enjoy your effusions, I've still thought this rubbish would be beneath you. You just aren't a serious person, sorry.

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Apr 1, 2020 01:02:16   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
JW wrote:
The incessant spin and outright lies coming from all sides of this thing are entirely infuriating. Let's lay out the facts sans political considerations.


Ah... This particular piece of propaganda is more an opinion than a fact...

Lots of expats are happy with the way China has reacted to the v***s...

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Apr 1, 2020 01:07:12   #
JW
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Ah... This particular piece of propaganda is more an opinion than a fact...

Lots of expats are happy with the way China has reacted to the v***s...


No one should be happy with the fabricated renditions of what China did/didn't or what the US did/didn't.

China has not been as forthright as she claims and the US has not been so lax as is being advertised.The people's happiness is between them and their nations governance but it is impossible to gauge happiness anywhere that half t***hs and lies make up the news.

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Apr 1, 2020 01:12:07   #
Fodaoson Loc: South Texas
 
Don’t expect any positive replies to this article. C*******t is still a bad word to Americans. It, c*******m, has been a failure wherever it was tried. China, Russia, Vietnam, The European eastern bloc , have all loosened the c*******t grip on their economies and have moved toward capitalism . C*******t China is still the enemy in the minds of the right wing of American politicians. Its competitiveness and economic successes is cause for worry.

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Apr 1, 2020 01:16:41   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
JW wrote:
No one should be happy with the fabricated renditions of what China did/didn't or what the US did/didn't.

China has not been as forthright as she claims and the US has not been so lax as is being advertised.The people's happiness is between them and their nations governance but it is impossible to gauge happiness anywhere that half t***hs and lies make up the news.


It appears we agree...

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Apr 1, 2020 01:17:11   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Fodaoson wrote:
Don’t expect any positive replies to this article. C*******t is still a bad word to Americans. It, c*******m, has been a failure wherever it was tried. China, Russia, Vietnam, The European eastern bloc , have all loosened the c*******t grip on their economies and have moved toward capitalism . C*******t China is still the enemy in the minds of the right wing of American politicians. Its competitiveness and economic successes is cause for worry.


Should it not be?

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Apr 1, 2020 01:25:14   #
Radiance3
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Lessons We Can Learn from China's Response to V***s - US Expat
OneTubeDaily
Source: China Daily

"If you understand the spirit of ancient China and why foreigners have such a great respect for both China's government and people, you'll also understand why Chinese today are able to tackle such formidable foes -- poverty, hunger and the borderless battle with the c****av***s," Dr. William N. Brown said.

Brown, from the United States, is a business professor at southern China's Xiamen University. He moved to the coastal city with his wife and sons in 1988 and became the first foreigner to obtain permanent residence in Fujian in 1992.

When the epidemic broke out, Brown was in California, taking care of his 90-year-old mother-in-law. But he stayed tuned for developments regarding the epidemic in China.

With novel c****av***s spreading across the globe, Brown tried to share his feelings and reflections in his residence in China and in the US to see why China can take the high ground in the fight against the epidemic.

Choose Between Laws and Life

"Some of the wealthiest nations not only lack toilet paper but also don't have v***s test kits, even 10 weeks after China shared the v***s genome with the world. Why on earth are these nations so unprepared?" he asked.

"Even a little logic should have suggested that the v***s is coming but they not only did not prepare, they also went to great lengths to explain why their 'democracies' could not take China's lead," Brown said. "Even a week ago, western media were writing how China's acrimonious measures, such as quarantines and restrictions on travel, deprived people of their basic rights of freedom of movement."

In his view, with the epidemic evolved into a p******c, governments from different countries scrambled to implement many of China's measures.

"Some places, like San Francisco, are careful to avoid the word "quarantine" which violates people's inalienable right of movement. But they did order people to shelter-in-place which may sound kinder and "democratic", Brown said. He noted that both expressions refer to the same meaning.

"Sounds to me like however you word it, it is still restricting people's movement, but these restrictions are needed. So do you pretend they are not?" he said.

For two months western countries criticized China while they themselves didn't do anything.

According to Brown, this can be traced to two reasons: On the one hand, the former naively thought they could avoid danger from the v***s, which is understandable because the flood of information makes the epidemic that broke out in other country look unreal.

On the other hand, people living in a wealthy country get used to cozy lives and think their wealth is able to shield them. Just as over the past decades, they successfully stayed out of trouble when wars, violate crime, and political turmoil afflicted countless people in countries stuck in poverty.

The v***s sees no borders and social status. Everyone is susceptible to it with no exception. But some countries didn't realize that until it was too late.

The Right to Life Matters Most

Fortunately, the Chinese government promptly responded to protect people's lives. It placed a v***s v*****e into clinical trials and promised to share it with the world once it works.

All Chinese are stoically making joint efforts to ride out this difficult time while the government resolves to sacrifice the speed of economic development to some extent.

Today's Chinese people love their lives as passionately as their forefathers. They treasure their lives to the utmost and enjoy living with their loved ones while the government shares the same view and upholds people's well-being to its heart.
Lessons We Can Learn from China's Response to V***... (show quote)

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I think you are a good man CD, but unfortunately, I don't want to read the rest of your topic. Your loyalty to the Chinese government does not mean that you support the Chinese government, praise the dumb treachery it has posted all over the world, most especially my country the US.

It is because China was secretly disintegrating, both economically and its health condition, due to its ambitions to control the world. It allowed all his potent v***s to spread all over the world to topple counties it could not compete for power. I won't stop until China is held accountable for all this world health crisis that deemed the whole world economically and lost hundreds of thousand human lives more are coming to die.

I want to make sure that China is held accountable for this world crisis, the WHO, along with the old staffer of CDC, and the MSM for hiding and scattering f**e news to mislead the world. A big lawsuit is coming. I'll make a follow-up on this, as soon the crisis slows down, and the v***s at least contained.

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Apr 1, 2020 01:32:27   #
PeterS
 
JW wrote:
Published after Trump Jan. 31,2020 travel restrictions:

Feb. 1,2020 Trump orders travel bans and quarantines https://www.westernjournal.com/trump-bans-travel-china-orders-1st-quarantine-50-years/

Feb. 1,2020 China angry at US for travel bans https://pjmedia.com/trending/china-angry-at-u-s-c****av***s-v***s-travel-restrictions-not-a-gesture-of-goodwill/

The South China Morning Post on Friday memorialized Li as a hero and recalled how the Chinese government lied shamelessly about him and seven fellow whistleblowers at every turn:https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2020/02/07/people-grieving-furious-china-admits-botched-case-whistleblower-doctor/

Mar.20, 2020 China hid c****a v***s problem and punished whistleblowers https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/mar/20/china-hid-c****av***s-admonished-whistleblowers/

I may add more of this .
Published after Trump Jan. 31,2020 travel restrict... (show quote)

The Feb 1 ban was on foreign nationals who had traveled to China within the last 14 days. That's all. This does not apply to lawful U.S. residents and family members/ spouses of U.S. residents or citizens.

At this same time, Trump was calling the v***s a h**x started by the Democrats to remove him from office. Don't make it sound like Trump was up on things and acting proactively. He wasn't and as late as March 18th he was saying the v***s was under control and the cases were going down. You said you have never witnessed him lie, well that was a pretty big one there.

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Apr 1, 2020 01:37:45   #
JW
 
PeterS wrote:
The Feb 1 ban was on foreign nationals who had traveled to China within the last 14 days. That's all. This does not apply to lawful U.S. residents and family members/ spouses of U.S. residents or citizens.

At this same time, Trump was calling the v***s a h**x started by the Democrats to remove him from office. Don't make it sound like Trump was up on things and acting proactively. He wasn't and as late as March 18th he was saying the v***s was under control and the cases were going down. You said you have never witnessed him lie, well that was a pretty big one there.
The Feb 1 ban was on foreign nationals who had tra... (show quote)


Why do you persist in that lie? Trump NEVER called the v***s a h**x. He was referring to the MSM's handling of the information, i.e. F**E NEWS.

Read the details more closely.

At the time he said it was under control, it was under control. Things change as time moves on.

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Apr 1, 2020 01:41:06   #
Fodaoson Loc: South Texas
 
Islam is a bigger threat to the western and American ways of life than is Chinese c*******m.

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Apr 1, 2020 01:44:18   #
Radiance3
 
Fodaoson wrote:
Islam is a bigger threat to the western and American ways of life than is Chinese c*******m.


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They are equally dangerous to the world.

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