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Mar 30, 2020 17:01:44   #
Lonewolf
 
dtucker300 wrote:
I didn't say anything about building a wall. I said securing the border. Sheesh! You are dense, you don't listen, you don't hear, you don't read, and you don't see. But you have a big mouth.


the way you guys put it its one and the same there are agents at all our border crossings

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Mar 30, 2020 17:53:46   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
Lonewolf wrote:
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/ap-fact-check-trump-knew-v***s-p******c-69741670


Why don't you do this all the time as most of what you post is just your hatred !

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Mar 30, 2020 17:59:42   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
Airforceone wrote:
Damm this is your problem do you listen to his daily press conferences, do you read his tweets, do you listen to his rallies. GD will you people wake up to the danger this president to this country. (POST LINKS) look it up yourself


No I don't set around watching his ever move as I'm not consumed by any politicians !

You Trump h**ers are the only ones that sees any danger Trump is causing because you all have the same mindset as the Democrats and media !

Actually I see a lot of good that Trump has done and is doing while all the time has the media and Democrats followers who are only looking for something to play gotta ya and who are so blind with hatred you all can't see passed you noses !

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Mar 30, 2020 18:03:19   #
Lonewolf
 
4430 wrote:
No I don't set around watching his ever move as I'm not consumed by any politicians !

You Trump h**ers are the only ones that sees any danger Trump is causing because you all have the same mindset as the Democrats and media !

Actually I see a lot of good that Trump has done and is doing while all the time has the media and Democrats followers who are only looking for something to play gotta ya and who are so blind with hatred you all can't see passed you noses !


i have given credit to trump a few times not very many though.if you don't watch his every move how do you know he hasn't done harmful things.

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Mar 30, 2020 18:03:27   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
Lonewolf wrote:
He has all the money to build the wall


Keep talking and showing how dumb you are !

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Mar 30, 2020 18:06:16   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
Lonewolf wrote:
i have given credit to trump a few times not very many though.if you don't watch his every move how do you know he hasn't done harmful things.


I have several watch groups that keeps me on point as my life doesn't revolve around me personally watching his every move in hopes of finding something to complain about !

I've never heard you give Trump any credit it's always nothing but bad mouthing !

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Mar 30, 2020 18:10:20   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Lonewolf wrote:
the way you guys put it its one and the same there are agents at all our border crossings


Where there are no border crossings is where they sneak in. Nearly every day there is a story about another panga landing along the coast of CA, especially San Diego, that is loaded with i******s and drugs and has come ashore under cover of darkness. The occupants have long since scattered by the time authorities can show up.

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Mar 30, 2020 20:59:43   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Lonewolf wrote:
i have given credit to trump a few times not very many though.if you don't watch his every move how do you know he hasn't done harmful things.


They ALL do harmful things! How did they convince you they don't?

Trump is doing less-bad things than they have done and plan to do.

Life and death stuff...so we are obligated to resist.

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Mar 30, 2020 21:40:34   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Lonewolf wrote:
i have given credit to trump a few times not very many though.if you don't watch his every move how do you know he hasn't done harmful things.


V***l Prerequisites and Nationalist Lessons in Time of Plague
Trump’s prior initiatives eased the implementation of many of his most effective orders during this crisis.

By Victor Davis Hanson • March 29, 2020

President Donald Trump has courted endless controversies for promoting nonconventional policies and entertaining contrarian views. From the outset, he oddly seemed to have believed that having navigated the jungles of the Manhattan real estate market—crooked politicians, mercurial unions, neighborhood social activists, the green lobby, leery banks, cutthroat rivals—better prepared him for the job than did a 30-year tenure in the U.S. Senate.

Certainly, candidate and then President Trump’s strident distrust of China was annoying to the American establishment. The Left saw China in rosy terms as the “Other” that just did things like airports, high-speed rail, and solar panels better than did America’s establishment of geriatric white male has-beens. Many on the Right saw China as a cash cow that was going to take over anyway, so why not milk it before the deluge?

In sum, conventional Washington wisdom assumed that appeasing the commercial banditry of an ascendant China, at best might ensure that its new riches led to Westernized political liberalization, and at worst might at least earn them a pat on the head from China as it insidiously assumed its fated role as global hegemon.

Trump once enraged liberal sensibilities by issuing travel bans against countries in the Middle East, Iran, Nigeria, and North Korea as they could not be trusted to audit their own departing citizens. His notion that nations have clearly defined and enforced borders was antithetical to the new norms that open borders and sanctuary cities were part of the global village of the 21st century.

Trump certainly distrusted globalization. He has waged a veritable multifront war against the overreach of t***snational organizations, whether that be the European Union or the various agencies of the United Nations. Even relatively uncontroversial steps, such as greenlighting experimental drugs and off-label uses of old medicines for terminal patients drew the ire of federal bureaucrats and medical schools as potentially dangerous or irrelevant in cost-benefit analyses.

Yet since the outbreak of the v***s, Trump’s idiosyncratic sixth sense has come in handy. The country is united in its furor at China—even if it is giving no credit to Trump for being years ahead of where it is now.

No longer is there a national debate over the evils of “protectionism” and “nationalism,” but rather over how quickly and effectively can the U.S. return the manufacturing of key medical supplies, pharmaceuticals, strategically vital technologies, and rare earth metals to American shores. Offshoring and outsourcing are now more likely synonymous with tragedy than smart investment strategies. Not long ago, pundits and politicians were startled to hear Trump in his grating Queens accent berate Chinese “c***ting,” as he invoked Neanderthal remedies like tariffs and boycotts. Today, even liberals are furious that the Chinese C*******t Party put their families and businesses at risk by systematically lying about the origins, t***smission, and lethality of the c****av***s. When you need a mask or antibiotic, it can cut through a lot of political rhetoric.

When Trump issued the key January 31 travel ban that suddenly stopped the arrival of 15,000 visitors per day to the United States from China, the Left was as outraged as it had been with the ban against Libya, North Korea, and Iran. Candidates Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders saw an opening against their presumed 2020 opponent, and quickly sought to demagogue v**ers with “here-we-go-again” rhetoric that r****t Trump is banning free travel of a marginalized people in his habitual “xenophobic” and “r****t” fits.

That Trump shortly extended the ban to all of Europe—and eventually was followed by almost all nations of the world—did not mean he was not simultaneously caricatured as a nationalist rube. How odd that no prior critical major newspaper, network, or politician has now called for the end of such unnecessary and hurtful bans and the resumption of travel from China without further interruption—especially now that we are told by CNN and MSNBC that the C*******t Party apparat has all but ended the v***s or at least is far more competent than the Trump Administration.

What made Trump a renegade Republican was his appeal to the deplorables, irredeemables, clingers, and dregs, whom the national media and elite had derided as toothless, smelly, fat, superstitious, bigoted, r****t, superfluous, addicted, and toxic. Those at Trump rallies were deemed mindless if not scary. Yet Trump claimed he felt more at home with them than with the national press corps on the night of the White House Correspondents’ Dinner.

When 150 million Americans were barricaded behind their doors, corporate lawyers did not deliver their food. Dropping Harvey Weinstein’s name to the guy shelving hand cleanser didn’t mean anything.

The chatterbox Rachel Maddows of the world were not growing fruits, beef, vegetables, and grains for those behind locked doors. Those pro-Chinese NBA stars were not needed to ensure toilet paper on the shelves, any more than loudmouths like Cher and Madonna were up all night in the emergency room or checking groceries at Costco. It was not the beautiful people, not the best and brightest, not the globetrotters and cognoscenti who were pulling the country through, but their antitheses, the rubes and assemblers who never learned to code.

We are learning, belatedly, that Trump was also rightly wary of t***snationalism. The World Health Organization in the early weeks of the outbreak was mostly a paid-for Chinese megaphone. Its functionary director propagandized, on Chinese prompts, that the v***s was likely not t***smissible from human to human and that travel bans were ineffective and thus reflective of Trump’s repugnant views.

Americans were startled at how quickly the brotherhood of the European Union collapsed. Within days, individual countries were ignoring the Schengen open-borders rules and reinvented themselves as nations. None were eager to welcome in their neighbors. Few were willing to share medical supplies and key pharmaceuticals across ancient boundaries. And fewer still wished to allow even more i*****l a***ns from the Middle East and North Africa to continue to pour into their nations.

The quite diverse manner in which Germany and Italy respectively reacted to the v***s showed very little European commonality, but reflected that both were unique cultures and societies as they had been for centuries. In sum, the v***s panic gave Americans some idea how the European Union might act during a war or invasion—each country likely cutting deals with the invader, and double-crossing one another, with the most virtuous in abiding by EU canons in a suspicious climate, also the most likely to suffer the quickest defeat.

Here at home, under the present lockdown conditions, Americans worry about finding their needed but long-ago outsourced prescriptions and medical supplies, but they are not so fearful of running out of food or fuel for their vehicles and heat for their homes. Was it good then to have demanded expansions of native gas and oil production, to have supported pipeline construction and more fracking and horizontal drilling? Was it in retrospect wise or foolish to have tried vehemently to stop California authorities from releasing precious state and federal reservoir water out to sea thereby shorting the irrigation contracts of the nation’s most important food producer?

At such times as these, was it smarter to trust in bureaucracies like the CDC to issue test kits or to encourage private enterprise to step forward and become creative producers? Could counties and states adapt better to the local and regional differences of the v***s’s manifestations than a monolithic federal government?

What is one to make of gun stores in liberal cities and counties of all-blue California mobbed by potential gun owners, many of whom had no prior experience with firearms, but plenty of fears that law enforcement would not or could not enforce laws respecting shoplifting, burglary, and assault during the lockdown?

When the jails are emptying, was it then wiser to have a pro-Second Amendment president or one who wished to restrict the availability of guns and ammunition, Beto O’Rourke style?

In short, Trump’s prior initiatives eased the implementation of many of his most effective orders during this crisis. And his general suspicions about China and globalization, his distrust of bureaucratic regulations, his support for domestic production of key industries, his promotion of the interests of farmers and frackers, and his vehement opposition to increased gun control, all reflect a world view of national and self-independence, in which Americans can only count on themselves and their fellow citizens.

Trump often loudly and crassly pushed these policies. He fought tooth and nail with his opponents. He replied with nuclear tonnage to preemptive media and political attacks on his person and family.

All that also might suggest that presidents really should start being judged by their actions rather than the degree of mellifluousness of their words—yet another lesson from this time of plague?

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Mar 31, 2020 13:35:43   #
SUZZY
 
dtucker300 wrote:
Wait so long for what? What action do you think he should have taken? Have you bothered to look at the timeline of the v***s?


TESTING TESTING TESTING FOR ONE. EVEN TODAY TRUMP NOT INTO / UNDERSTANDING IMPORTANCE OF TESTING TO GETTING A HANDLE ON V***S. PAY ATTENTION PLEASE

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Mar 31, 2020 17:09:39   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
SUZZY wrote:
TESTING TESTING TESTING FOR ONE. EVEN TODAY TRUMP NOT INTO / UNDERSTANDING IMPORTANCE OF TESTING TO GETTING A HANDLE ON V***S. PAY ATTENTION PLEASE


DON'T YELL! Do you understand internet etiquette? All Caps is tantamount to shouting!

When exactly did you come to this realization? January? February? March? Last week? Yesterday?

I admit that testing is an important piece of the puzzle. Testing everyone is not feasible not prudent for asymptomatic people. What is important is that people do what they have been instructed to do and follow the CDC protocols. Too many people are selfish and only think of themselves by not using safe health, hygiene, and social distancing practices.

This p******c still has a long way to go and will get worse before things get better. What are you doing to help?

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Mar 31, 2020 19:36:00   #
SUZZY
 
dtucker300 wrote:
DON'T YELL! Do you understand internet etiquette? All Caps is tantamount to shouting!

When exactly did you come to this realization? January? February? March? Last week? Yesterday?

I admit that testing is an important piece of the puzzle. Testing everyone is not feasible not prudent for asymptomatic people. What is important is that people do what they have been instructed to do and follow the CDC protocols. Too many people are selfish and only think of themselves by not using safe health, hygiene, and social distancing practices.

This p******c still has a long way to go and will get worse before things get better. What are you doing to help?
DON'T YELL! Do you understand internet etiquette?... (show quote)


Testing everyone - tracking infected- then isolation is the ONLY way. I'm self quarantining & telling the FACTS. T***h matters. I listen to Dr. F***i. Also I'm not listening to FOX (FAUX) news, alternate facts, opinions & lies. PS: Trump told Bullock & governors on a call Mon. he was unaware of a shortage of test. what BS !!! Sorry about the caps.

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Mar 31, 2020 20:18:16   #
Cherokee38 Loc: Atlanta
 
One way to secure border is start shooting them. They are breaking the law. If they try to break into your home would you shoot them? What is the difference? Bullets are cheaper than building a wall.

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Mar 31, 2020 22:32:01   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
SUZZY wrote:
TESTING TESTING TESTING FOR ONE. EVEN TODAY TRUMP NOT INTO / UNDERSTANDING IMPORTANCE OF TESTING TO GETTING A HANDLE ON V***S. PAY ATTENTION PLEASE


No! No! No!

The v***s has been here since November but the public only became aware a short time ago.

This is the plan:

Quietly import the v***sss and keep the lid on until it cccirculatesss widely...mossst people get over it and think they had sssomething elssse but they'll have ANTIBODIESSS...

...ssso later, when the story blowsss we'll pusssh for WIDE TESSSTING (and we'll make sure to ussse the sss**tty WHO tessst that givesss lotsss of falssse posssitives!) and we'll include in the numbersss people who had it monthsss ago and got over it.

We'll aggregate the numbersss and make it ssseeem worssse than it isss.

We'll crasssh the economy, hide all the sss**t paper and do wh**ever we have to before 2020 to make thisss ssseem like Trump'sss fault becaussse if the people found out what we've been doing all thessse yearsss they would tear usss to piecesss.

If you're sick get tested. NOT with the WHO test!

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Mar 31, 2020 22:38:31   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
SUZZY wrote:
Testing everyone - tracking infected- then isolation is the ONLY way. I'm self quarantining & telling the FACTS. T***h matters. I listen to Dr. F***i. Also I'm not listening to FOX (FAUX) news, alternate facts, opinions & lies. PS: Trump told Bullock & governors on a call Mon. he was unaware of a shortage of test. what BS !!! Sorry about the caps.


No...we've weathered much worse without all that progressive trickery.

My aunt and uncle both had it a month or so ago. Mildly sick a few days, but he travels to China in his line of work so he got tested.

They both have antibodies.

The people who want these tests want to use the numbers for propaganda purposes...

...and the v**e by mail BS is doomed as well; which is what the end game is NOW since the v***s will fail.

The ability of the Establishment, but particularly the Dems, to c***t in 2020 is going to be severely curtailed by something they thought would help them.

Sweet!

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