Mundabor: Consider what happens if our entire nation Shuts Down
Mar 29, 2020 18:52:54 #
Well, I called it early again...
I prayed I would be wrong, but, in the next 10 to 14 days or so most of us are going to know the outcome.
Others will wait it out till the end of April before they succumb to the cataclysmic conclusion of our new reality and the End of America !
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C****av***s Apocalypse Now
By: Fay Voshell
Mark Twain, on hearing an American newspaper had prematurely published his obituary, clarified matters by saying, “The reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated.”
Some things do not change.
False reports abound in a time of national and international panic. As Dr. Deborah Birx pointed out in her recent report on the c****av***s, it turns out that British scientist Dr. Neil Ferguson’s initial model for the death rate from c****av***s was severely exaggerated. He has since walked back his dire predictions. His retraction comes after many governments adopted draconian measures to protect the public from his scenarios of death and destruction.
Although the good news was disappointing for true believers actively desiring a Malthusian apocalypse, the rest of those who have been in lockdown now see a ray of sunshine through their metaphorically boarded windows.
History will judge whether or not Dr. Ferguson did the equivalent of shouting “Fire!” in a global theater, but his mistake does call into question the use of similar “scientific” models as the basis of public policy. It may be legitimate to question the usefulness of predictive models based on the way Dr. Ferguson and others do science.
After all, we have seen similar “scientific” models and methods used to justify policies that proved worse than the conditions that created them.
China’s disastrous “One Child” policy was based on a Malthusian scientific model that predicted the entire society would starve if China’s population was not culled by a******n and even infanticide. The results of that policy are apparent today, as China faces a shortage of women, a surplus of single men and an aging population.
Historians will also recall devastation caused by Lysenkoism.
Lysenkoism was actually an ideological political campaign buttressed by Lamarckism, an evolutionary philosophy better matched to c*******t propaganda than Mendelian science. Trofim Lysenko forced a system of agriculture on the Russian people that was completely anti-scientific. Lysenko’s kooky theory of "vernalization" was supposed to produce record crops. The model failed completely. But for sixteen long years, Russian agriculture was blasted by pseudo-scientific policies enforced by Stalin’s draconian measures.
All the above examples are to say nothing of ruinous pseudo-scientific models concerning diseases, races, ethnicities, criminality, and intelligence.
All pseudo-science models have one thing in common:
They are essentially deeply religious, accompanied as they are by apocalyptic end times scenarios that goad the public into actions fomented by panic and despair.
The use of mathematics and charts adds an air of legitimacy to apocalyptic predictions that are almost the exact duplicate of end time scenarios prophesied by cult leaders.
Such prophets have used biblical verses, gnostic numerology, guilt and fear to panic their followers into selling all their possessions, buying white robes and heading to the mountains or digging shelters underground in hopes of surviving as the chosen remnant.
In a similar panicked manner, there are those whose disruptive plans are now being put into play while they appeal to “science” and to their higher moral discernment; wisdom that is hidden from the rest of us mortals.
Nothing is more tempting to potential tyrants than utilization of a panic stoked to white heat in order to reinforce and extend state control.
The use of partial t***h -- yes, the v***s is real -- can be inflated and massaged in order to achieve nefarious ends. Alas, the fact is that the final writhing of a diseased system built on lies can still create havoc.
Some ideologues just like to see things burn.
Some see ways to profit from societal collapse.
Some see the possibility that society can be fundamentally t***sformed.
While the c****av***s is real, and sensible measures should be taken to prevent its spread, perhaps it is well to listen to a voice from Italy, now an epicenter of the v***l plague. Italy, which has long had an off again; on again flirtation with c*******m, has a few voices of caution as the measures to contain the v***s look more and more like a state takeover worthy of Bolsheviks.
An author of a prescient column who goes by the nom de plume “Mundabor” writes:
“…it seems to me that, in Italy at least, the emergency is now morphing into madness. I have little doubt that other Countries like Spain and France will very soon follow, then they tend to react in the same way. I can only hope that the United Kingdom and the United States will keep a cooler head, following a tradition of “stiff upper lip” in times of crisis.
“Listen, people: factories do not close even in war times, with the enemy bombers flying over them. The decision of the Italian Prime Minister, Conte, to shut down the country’s factories starting tomorrow is exactly an example of what should not, never (not if we had enemy bombers on our heads!) be done.”
He adds:
“Social distancing is all fine. Work from home whenever possible is all fine. The enforcement of the end of mass gathering is something which has always been done for public order reasons. But when you begin to shut down factories and condemn to closure every shop that is not “essential”, you are playing with the very fabric of the country and making of Italy the next Venezuela.
“The Left will rise, as it is always the case when misery and poverty do. This may result in an entirely home-made World War I, with the citizen shooting themselves out of sheer panic rather than being shot at by the enemy. “
Mundabor’s words should give us Americans pause. We need to consider what will happen if our entire nation is shut down. We need to consider that what is happening in our own country goes far beyond an attempt to take down Donald Trump and is rapidly morphing into hysteria that if unchecked, could change our entire nation beyond recognition.
As Mundabor writes: “As the hysteria grows (which I am afraid it will), Conte and the other politicians will not have any interest in trying to plant their feet, draw a line in the sand and say that there must be a limit to the measures taken to prevent the diffusion of the China V***s. On the contrary, the temptation will be big to put themselves ‘at the head of the movement’ and look ‘caring’, even as they carelessly destroy the lives of millions and cause untold suffering for years to come.”
The c****av***s madness puts before Americans a choice: Revive the progressive/l*****t Frankenstein monster or immolate it at last.
Let’s hope America chooses the latter and doesn’t accede to embracing an ideological vision that has long relied on deathly visions of apocalypse now, visions bound to destroy the flawed but redeemable peoples and institutions of the West.
All the while, hope and pray that the panic eng****red by an ideological paradigm bolstered by pseudo-science and errant philosophical underpinnings at last collapses; and that true reform and restoration can begin.
Meanwhile, those addicted to the rush eng****red by the apocalypse now scenarios might do well to think about the words of wisdom from a prophet who spoke about the real thing thousands of years ago.
We won’t know when it will happen; and when it does, we won’t miss it.
Fay Voshell holds a M.Div. from Princeton Theological Seminary, which awarded her the prize for excellence in systematic theology. Her thoughts have appeared in many online magazines, including the Christian Post, National Review, RealClearReligion, Russia Insider and American Thinker. She may be reached at fvoshell@yahoo.com
I prayed I would be wrong, but, in the next 10 to 14 days or so most of us are going to know the outcome.
Others will wait it out till the end of April before they succumb to the cataclysmic conclusion of our new reality and the End of America !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
C****av***s Apocalypse Now
By: Fay Voshell
Mark Twain, on hearing an American newspaper had prematurely published his obituary, clarified matters by saying, “The reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated.”
Some things do not change.
False reports abound in a time of national and international panic. As Dr. Deborah Birx pointed out in her recent report on the c****av***s, it turns out that British scientist Dr. Neil Ferguson’s initial model for the death rate from c****av***s was severely exaggerated. He has since walked back his dire predictions. His retraction comes after many governments adopted draconian measures to protect the public from his scenarios of death and destruction.
Although the good news was disappointing for true believers actively desiring a Malthusian apocalypse, the rest of those who have been in lockdown now see a ray of sunshine through their metaphorically boarded windows.
History will judge whether or not Dr. Ferguson did the equivalent of shouting “Fire!” in a global theater, but his mistake does call into question the use of similar “scientific” models as the basis of public policy. It may be legitimate to question the usefulness of predictive models based on the way Dr. Ferguson and others do science.
After all, we have seen similar “scientific” models and methods used to justify policies that proved worse than the conditions that created them.
China’s disastrous “One Child” policy was based on a Malthusian scientific model that predicted the entire society would starve if China’s population was not culled by a******n and even infanticide. The results of that policy are apparent today, as China faces a shortage of women, a surplus of single men and an aging population.
Historians will also recall devastation caused by Lysenkoism.
Lysenkoism was actually an ideological political campaign buttressed by Lamarckism, an evolutionary philosophy better matched to c*******t propaganda than Mendelian science. Trofim Lysenko forced a system of agriculture on the Russian people that was completely anti-scientific. Lysenko’s kooky theory of "vernalization" was supposed to produce record crops. The model failed completely. But for sixteen long years, Russian agriculture was blasted by pseudo-scientific policies enforced by Stalin’s draconian measures.
All the above examples are to say nothing of ruinous pseudo-scientific models concerning diseases, races, ethnicities, criminality, and intelligence.
All pseudo-science models have one thing in common:
They are essentially deeply religious, accompanied as they are by apocalyptic end times scenarios that goad the public into actions fomented by panic and despair.
The use of mathematics and charts adds an air of legitimacy to apocalyptic predictions that are almost the exact duplicate of end time scenarios prophesied by cult leaders.
Such prophets have used biblical verses, gnostic numerology, guilt and fear to panic their followers into selling all their possessions, buying white robes and heading to the mountains or digging shelters underground in hopes of surviving as the chosen remnant.
In a similar panicked manner, there are those whose disruptive plans are now being put into play while they appeal to “science” and to their higher moral discernment; wisdom that is hidden from the rest of us mortals.
Nothing is more tempting to potential tyrants than utilization of a panic stoked to white heat in order to reinforce and extend state control.
The use of partial t***h -- yes, the v***s is real -- can be inflated and massaged in order to achieve nefarious ends. Alas, the fact is that the final writhing of a diseased system built on lies can still create havoc.
Some ideologues just like to see things burn.
Some see ways to profit from societal collapse.
Some see the possibility that society can be fundamentally t***sformed.
While the c****av***s is real, and sensible measures should be taken to prevent its spread, perhaps it is well to listen to a voice from Italy, now an epicenter of the v***l plague. Italy, which has long had an off again; on again flirtation with c*******m, has a few voices of caution as the measures to contain the v***s look more and more like a state takeover worthy of Bolsheviks.
An author of a prescient column who goes by the nom de plume “Mundabor” writes:
“…it seems to me that, in Italy at least, the emergency is now morphing into madness. I have little doubt that other Countries like Spain and France will very soon follow, then they tend to react in the same way. I can only hope that the United Kingdom and the United States will keep a cooler head, following a tradition of “stiff upper lip” in times of crisis.
“Listen, people: factories do not close even in war times, with the enemy bombers flying over them. The decision of the Italian Prime Minister, Conte, to shut down the country’s factories starting tomorrow is exactly an example of what should not, never (not if we had enemy bombers on our heads!) be done.”
He adds:
“Social distancing is all fine. Work from home whenever possible is all fine. The enforcement of the end of mass gathering is something which has always been done for public order reasons. But when you begin to shut down factories and condemn to closure every shop that is not “essential”, you are playing with the very fabric of the country and making of Italy the next Venezuela.
“The Left will rise, as it is always the case when misery and poverty do. This may result in an entirely home-made World War I, with the citizen shooting themselves out of sheer panic rather than being shot at by the enemy. “
Mundabor’s words should give us Americans pause. We need to consider what will happen if our entire nation is shut down. We need to consider that what is happening in our own country goes far beyond an attempt to take down Donald Trump and is rapidly morphing into hysteria that if unchecked, could change our entire nation beyond recognition.
As Mundabor writes: “As the hysteria grows (which I am afraid it will), Conte and the other politicians will not have any interest in trying to plant their feet, draw a line in the sand and say that there must be a limit to the measures taken to prevent the diffusion of the China V***s. On the contrary, the temptation will be big to put themselves ‘at the head of the movement’ and look ‘caring’, even as they carelessly destroy the lives of millions and cause untold suffering for years to come.”
The c****av***s madness puts before Americans a choice: Revive the progressive/l*****t Frankenstein monster or immolate it at last.
Let’s hope America chooses the latter and doesn’t accede to embracing an ideological vision that has long relied on deathly visions of apocalypse now, visions bound to destroy the flawed but redeemable peoples and institutions of the West.
All the while, hope and pray that the panic eng****red by an ideological paradigm bolstered by pseudo-science and errant philosophical underpinnings at last collapses; and that true reform and restoration can begin.
Meanwhile, those addicted to the rush eng****red by the apocalypse now scenarios might do well to think about the words of wisdom from a prophet who spoke about the real thing thousands of years ago.
We won’t know when it will happen; and when it does, we won’t miss it.
Fay Voshell holds a M.Div. from Princeton Theological Seminary, which awarded her the prize for excellence in systematic theology. Her thoughts have appeared in many online magazines, including the Christian Post, National Review, RealClearReligion, Russia Insider and American Thinker. She may be reached at fvoshell@yahoo.com
Mar 29, 2020 20:30:35 #
What if the whole planet stops?
What if the the Galaxy falls into a black hole?
What if the anti matter engines and the dilithium crystals implode?
You need to get that prescription filled siss thingy.
What if the the Galaxy falls into a black hole?
What if the anti matter engines and the dilithium crystals implode?
You need to get that prescription filled siss thingy.
Mar 29, 2020 21:07:03 #
dtucker300
Loc: Vista, CA
Trumpnotthestormiestpres wrote:
What if the whole planet stops?
What if the the Galaxy falls into a black hole?
What if the anti matter engines and the dilithium crystals implode?
You need to get that prescription filled siss thingy.
What if the the Galaxy falls into a black hole?
What if the anti matter engines and the dilithium crystals implode?
You need to get that prescription filled siss thingy.
Quote:
Well, I called it early again...
I prayed I would be wrong, but, in the next 10 to 14 days or so most of us are going to know the outcome.
Others will wait it out till the end of April before they succumb to the cataclysmic conclusion of our new reality and the End of America !
I prayed I would be wrong, but, in the next 10 to 14 days or so most of us are going to know the outcome.
Others will wait it out till the end of April before they succumb to the cataclysmic conclusion of our new reality and the End of America !
You haven't called anything yet...don't count your chickens.
Mar 29, 2020 21:24:44 #
Trumpnotthestormiestpres wrote:
What if the whole planet stops?
What if the the Galaxy falls into a black hole?
What if the anti matter engines and the dilithium crystals implode?
You need to get that prescription filled siss thingy.
What if the the Galaxy falls into a black hole?
What if the anti matter engines and the dilithium crystals implode?
You need to get that prescription filled siss thingy.
>>>
You are forgetting what Camp many of us are in... we’ve been looking for a catalyst, a flash point, wild card to get this thing started.
In this camp we know v****g won’t ever work and nothing thus far any of you have tried past or present is going to change anything either.
I will point out to you once again... There is NO Peaceful Separation from the Criminal State and FED !
Either way, for tonight, lets just pray the V***s starts infecting and k*****g the perpetrators and then we dont have to pick up our gear and do the bad work.
Mar 29, 2020 21:30:02 #
dtucker300 wrote:
You haven't called anything yet...don't count your chickens.
>>>
I’m in a different Camp than you Tucker it seems.
I’m a realist...
I can only be so optimistic but as we look to the BDI Index at Zero and Futures opening Way Down again... the economic wreckage will deepen.
The Supply Chain is collapsing next, starts at A and Ends at Z
This kind of Black Swan Deepening will cause shockwaves through the entire economy that many wont come back from because opening operating costs are simply to great.
With no substantial receivables, most cant make payroll anymore.
Tick Tock Mr. Trumpy... What will you do next to win World War C
Mar 29, 2020 22:05:29 #
dtucker300
Loc: Vista, CA
Sicilianthing wrote:
>>> br br I’m in a different Camp than ... (show quote)
You know what? The entire economy of the world might crash. I don't think people feel much different than at the end of the Civil War and the death toll and destruction that remained. How about the end of World War II. Yes, this is a catastrophe. Let's just throw our hands up in the air and give up! No, we will pick ourselves up, dust off the dirt, and rebuild again. It not in our nature to just give up and quit, unless one is a socialist democrat who wants someone to take care of them and thinks the world owes them a living. When the going gets tough the tough get going. And that is the reality of Americans. Well, about half of them anyway.
How about you? Have you given up? Life hasn't even become difficult yet. Those that survive will buckle down to resuming business, restore supply lines, built infrastructure.
I can tell you one thing for certain! This will make a lot of people realize who the really important people are in society. Not the politicians, not the university professors, not the company CEOs, not the wealthy, etc. It is the average man, the salt of the earth, the plumbers, electricians, auto mechanics, etc. Funny how our society has its' priorities messed up.
Mar 29, 2020 22:14:10 #
dtucker300 wrote:
You know what? The entire economy of the world mi... (show quote)
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That’s what I’m talking about Tucker, guys like me are in a different camp.
We’re not really concerned with rebuilding things until we remove the Criminal State and FED
Mar 29, 2020 22:18:16 #
dtucker300
Loc: Vista, CA
Sicilianthing wrote:
>>>
That’s what I’m talking about Tucker, guys like me are in a different camp.
We’re not really concerned with rebuilding things until we remove the Criminal State and FED
That’s what I’m talking about Tucker, guys like me are in a different camp.
We’re not really concerned with rebuilding things until we remove the Criminal State and FED
It may remove itself if everything falls apart. You might get what you want. But you can never totally eliminate all it. Sheesh! Grow up and grow a pair! Or will you and your minions hunker down in your compound and shut out the entire world?
Mar 29, 2020 22:21:24 #
dtucker300 wrote:
It may remove itself if everything falls apart. You might get what you want. But you can never totally eliminate all it. Sheesh! Grow up and grow a pair! Or will you and your minions hunker down in your compound and shut out the entire world?
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We will all be conscripted into M*****as Tucker, unless there’s something really wrong with you health wise...
Another vast difference between you and I is I’m almost entirely convinced that Trump is working for these criminals (deep state) all along... that he’s been c*********d a long time ago
That he’s the patsy or the Pied Piper as some say...
The final clues are coming soon, many new ones did come in the past 6months (surprised me too) so we’ll see what the rest are between now and e******ns.
Mar 29, 2020 22:27:51 #
dtucker300
Loc: Vista, CA
Sicilianthing wrote:
>>> br br We will all be conscripted int... (show quote)
yeah, yeah, yeah, we know, we know! You said this way too many times already, and you keep repeating it. It's redundant. You are redundant. We all know what YOU think. Tell us all something we don't know.
Do you blame Trump for what happened? Who isn't involved in this nefarious aggregation of tyrants? Pinky and the Brain?
Mar 29, 2020 22:41:40 #
dtucker300 wrote:
yeah, yeah, yeah, we know, we know! You said this way too many times already, and you keep repeating it. It's redundant. You are redundant. We all know what YOU think. Tell us all something we don't know.
Do you blame Trump for what happened? Who isn't involved in this nefarious aggregation of tyrants? Pinky and the Brain?
Do you blame Trump for what happened? Who isn't involved in this nefarious aggregation of tyrants? Pinky and the Brain?
>>>
I just posted a new Topic about your SPV’s from the Treasury Trickery and the Fraud they’re all involved in.
I will be posting this week the replies from all the other experts as they come to me.
Mar 30, 2020 16:00:57 #
Sicilianthing wrote:
>>>
That’s what I’m talking about Tucker, guys like me are in a different camp.
We’re not really concerned with rebuilding things until we remove the Criminal State and FED
That’s what I’m talking about Tucker, guys like me are in a different camp.
We’re not really concerned with rebuilding things until we remove the Criminal State and FED
Theres much to be said for that Sici.....Don copies me on some very enlightening things....things that are happening right now...
Mar 30, 2020 16:02:52 #
Sicilianthing wrote:
>>> br br We will all be conscripted int... (show quote)
This is where we part ways. I believe in Trump 1,000 X 10
Mar 30, 2020 16:08:39 #
PZG1225 wrote:
Theres much to be said for that Sici.....Don copies me on some very enlightening things....things that are happening right now...
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Noted and agreed... but sadly most people are still asleep even as the lockdown expands.
Notice the Government and Pentagon just ordered its high-level military commanders into a 2000-foot deep, nuclear warhead-proof bunker complex in Colorado. It was built to survive a nuclear exchange.
Something very sinister is going on and this is the time to activate into M*****as and begin the process.
I’ve been screaming it for years...
Without our M*****as we are doomed.
Mar 30, 2020 16:12:35 #
PZG1225 wrote:
This is where we part ways. I believe in Trump 1,000 X 10
>>>
I supported Trump until he signed USMCA...
and that was enough Ignorance and Treason for me to know it was time to get off the Trump train... (emphasis Mine !)
Now we have the Wild Card V***s (a False F**g of sorts?) they will use this to roll out other Draconian measures designed long before Trump ever showed up and Trump will use their Textbook methodologies to deploy them.
Warning Signs are everywhere
Glaring RED Flashing Lights are all around you
Sirens are blaring day and night...
Alarms are non stop...
RED f**gs are waving from every corner...
What does it take you guys to wake up and Take Real Actions ?
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