factnotfiction

Actually, most are incapable of rational thought, but oh well.


https://www.inquisitr.com/5967632/fox-news-c****av***s-poll/

proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

You presume Trump supporters get all their programming from Fox the way you do from CNN and MSNBC.

I never watch Fox, myself, unless someone is being interviewed and I care what they're talking about...which hasn't been often.

I don't care what the poll says, BTW. It's irrelevant.

EmilyD

I think it's hilarious that lefties still believe in polls - after what happened in 2016!!!

moldyoldy

Who got the most v**es?

EmilyD

Trump got the most LEGAL v**es....

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

Trump.

moldyoldy

The right always claims that there are many illegal v**es but when they had the v***r f***d investigation team, they folded up in no time. I guess they must have found that all the c***ting was from the right

EmilyD

Ok...I guess I have to spell it all out for you. It's all about California:

While Clinton's overall margin looks large and impressive, it is due to Clinton's huge margin of victory in one state - California - where she got a whopping 4.3 million more v**es than Trump.

(California is the only state, in fact, where Clinton's margin of victory was bigger than President Obama's in 2012 - 61.5% vs. Obama's 60%.)

If you take California out of the popular v**e equation, then Trump wins the rest of the country by 1.4 million v**es. And if California v**ed like every other Democratic state - where Clinton averaged 53.5% wins — Clinton and Trump end up in a virtual popular v**e tie.

On Jan. 1, 2015, California Assembly Bill 60 (AB-60) became law. AB-60 allows i*****l i*******ts in the United States to apply for a California driver’s license with the CA Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV). An estimated 605,000 undocumented residents received California driver’s licenses under AB-60 in the first year alone. The California DMV recently issued a press release stating that over one million licenses had been issued under AB-60 as of April 4, 2018.

California State officials chose not to make non-citizen license holders searchable in the DMV database. This specific provision, by itself, opens the doors to illegal v***r r**********n as the driver’s license becomes indistinguishable online.

On Oct. 10, 2015, California Governor Jerry Brown signed the Motor V**er Act that automatically registers to v**e every eligible California citizen who goes to a DMV office to get a driver’s license or renew one.

The California NVRA (National V***r R**********n Act) Manual found this language on page 42:

VI. V***r R**********n Cards where the v**er indicates he or she is not a U.S. Citizen:

The VRC asks the applicant if he or she is a United States citizen. The v**er may check either “Yes”, “No”, or not check either box.

If the v**er indicates, by checking the “yes” box, that he or she is a U.S. citizen, the registration should be processed normally.

In other words, as stated by Charles Bell, Jr., a partner with California-based Bell, McAndrews & Hiltachk, LLP, a law firm that specializes in e******n law, “applicants can check a box affirming they are citizens, and this is not checked against any other government database such as federal immigration records.”

If you look at every other measure, Trump was the clear and decisive winner in this e******n:

Number of states won:
Trump: 30
Clinton: 20
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Trump: +10

Number of e*******l v**es won:
Trump: 306
Clinton: 232
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Trump: + 68

Ave. margin of victory in winning states:
Trump: 56%
Clinton: 53.5%
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Trump: + 2.5 points

Popular v**e total:
Trump: 62,958,211
Clinton: 65,818,318
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Clinton: + 2.8 million

Popular v**e total outside California:
Trump: 58,474,401
Clinton: 57,064,530
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Trump: + 1.4 million

Now go ahead and keep on saying Hillary won the popular v**e. But only in California, where there are millions of i*****l a***ns, most of whom have drivers licenses.....and that is all that is checked when they go to the v****g polls to v**e.

Yes....millions of Hillary's v**es were illegal.

https://www.investors.com/politics/commentary/its-official-clintons-popular-v**e-win-came-entirely-from-california/

https://themarketswork.com/2018/10/31/is-v**er-fraud-real-a-look-at-californias-illegal-v**er-registration-problem/

moldyoldy

Since I live in California, I know the hoops you have to jump through and the documentation that they require. I******s have no desire to get involved with the government

EmilyD

And you speak for the millions of i******s there....every one of them are honest as the day is bright, right?

moldyoldy

The state makes sure that they are honest

woodguru

He got the most v**es, he never proved it wasn't so after appointing a commission to find that...they concluded they could not prove the ridiculous claim. If a president can't appoint a board of toadies to support it do you think it happened?

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

Right.

They don't need the i******s to make it work. They just need dirty v**er roles. They need the i******s to boost representation in Washington.

1.5 million in LA county alone.

A CA with clean v**er roles will have few e*******l v**es eventually.

moldyoldy

Democrats outnumber Republicans