Are dogs and cats carriers? Other pets? What about domestic animals and wild animals? I don't have the answers, It is just something I am looking at in a logical manner. From what I've...

LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago

I don't have the answers, It is just something I am looking at in a logical manner.

From what I've read, dogs can't get the Kung Flu. But the Carona V***s can settle on various types of services for various lengths of time. You walk your dog. You meet another dog walker. Fist bumps. Then pet each others dogs. Is it in the fur from the last person that pet it. What about the i***ts that let dogs lick them everywhere, hands, faces, etc. It doesn't die immediately after touching the dogs fur, or saliva. In normal situations I find that d********g. People allow their dogs, cats too, to just climb up on their chairs, couches, beds, etc. They sleep with them. Then they go there, and maybe their guests too, if they actually allow anyone into their home now. All t***smission points. And cats walking on tables were food is served, and kitchen counters. D********g. Food is prepared there and their cats could be carrying the v***s there after sitting in another carriers lap or licking them. People are stuck at home and they, many, treat their pets as their own babies or little children with them in their lap all day, licking them constantly. Beware, they could be carriers. I always wash my hands after touching someone else's animal, and I wouldn't even allow it now.

I think my birds are a lot safer, and contact is less. Just feeding and cleaning and then washing my hands. Always do it anyway.

Reptiles? It won't die on their skin right away. Might last for hours.

Live stock on the farm. Probably a lot safer. We don't pet them and let them lick us anywhere near as much as cats and dogs. And then. maybe once a day at feeding time or such.

I've read where it might be a real problem with the lowland gorilla in the wilds in Africa. They can get infected like humans. One infection could lead to 500 gorillas dying in pain in the wild. There are only 1000 left now. And that goes for those in Zoos. I'm sure they are doing their best to isolate them and treat them as humanly, that is like a vulnerable human, as possible.

Just some thoughts. Where are you on this? What do you think now? Any ideas?

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

LogicallyRight wrote:

I don't have the answers, It is just something I am looking at in a logical manner.

From what I've read, dogs can't get the Kung Flu. But the Carona V***s can settle on various types of services for various lengths of time. You walk your dog. You meet another dog walker. Fist bumps. Then pet each others dogs. Is it in the fur from the last person that pet it. What about the i***ts that let dogs lick them everywhere, hands, faces, etc. It doesn't die immediately after touching the dogs fur, or saliva. In normal situations I find that d********g. People allow their dogs, cats too, to just climb up on their chairs, couches, beds, etc. They sleep with them. Then they go there, and maybe their guests too, if they actually allow anyone into their home now. All t***smission points. And cats walking on tables were food is served, and kitchen counters. D********g. Food is prepared there and their cats could be carrying the v***s there after sitting in another carriers lap or licking them. People are stuck at home and they, many, treat their pets as their own babies or little children with them in their lap all day, licking them constantly. Beware, they could be carriers. I always wash my hands after touching someone else's animal, and I wouldn't even allow it now.

I think my birds are a lot safer, and contact is less. Just feeding and cleaning and then washing my hands. Always do it anyway.

Reptiles? It won't die on their skin right away. Might last for hours.

Live stock on the farm. Probably a lot safer. We don't pet them and let them lick us anywhere near as much as cats and dogs. And then. maybe once a day at feeding time or such.

I've read where it might be a real problem with the lowland gorilla in the wilds in Africa. They can get infected like humans. One infection could lead to 500 gorillas dying in pain in the wild. There are only 1000 left now. And that goes for those in Zoos. I'm sure they are doing their best to isolate them and treat them as humanly, that is like a vulnerable human, as possible.

Just some thoughts. Where are you on this? What do you think now? Any ideas?

I don't have the answers, It is just something I a... (show quote)

Always wash hands after handling animals, regardless of circumstances.

roy

LogicallyRight wrote:

I don't have the answers, It is just something I am looking at in a logical manner.

From what I've read, dogs can't get the Kung Flu. But the Carona V***s can settle on various types of services for various lengths of time. You walk your dog. You meet another dog walker. Fist bumps. Then pet each others dogs. Is it in the fur from the last person that pet it. What about the i***ts that let dogs lick them everywhere, hands, faces, etc. It doesn't die immediately after touching the dogs fur, or saliva. In normal situations I find that d********g. People allow their dogs, cats too, to just climb up on their chairs, couches, beds, etc. They sleep with them. Then they go there, and maybe their guests too, if they actually allow anyone into their home now. All t***smission points. And cats walking on tables were food is served, and kitchen counters. D********g. Food is prepared there and their cats could be carrying the v***s there after sitting in another carriers lap or licking them. People are stuck at home and they, many, treat their pets as their own babies or little children with them in their lap all day, licking them constantly. Beware, they could be carriers. I always wash my hands after touching someone else's animal, and I wouldn't even allow it now.

I think my birds are a lot safer, and contact is less. Just feeding and cleaning and then washing my hands. Always do it anyway.

Reptiles? It won't die on their skin right away. Might last for hours.

Live stock on the farm. Probably a lot safer. We don't pet them and let them lick us anywhere near as much as cats and dogs. And then. maybe once a day at feeding time or such.

I've read where it might be a real problem with the lowland gorilla in the wilds in Africa. They can get infected like humans. One infection could lead to 500 gorillas dying in pain in the wild. There are only 1000 left now. And that goes for those in Zoos. I'm sure they are doing their best to isolate them and treat them as humanly, that is like a vulnerable human, as possible.

Just some thoughts. Where are you on this? What do you think now? Any ideas?

I don't have the answers, It is just something I a... (show quote)

Humans are the carriers

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

LogicallyRight wrote:

I don't have the answers, It is just something I am looking at in a logical manner.

From what I've read, dogs can't get the Kung Flu. But the Carona V***s can settle on various types of services for various lengths of time. You walk your dog. You meet another dog walker. Fist bumps. Then pet each others dogs. Is it in the fur from the last person that pet it. What about the i***ts that let dogs lick them everywhere, hands, faces, etc. It doesn't die immediately after touching the dogs fur, or saliva. In normal situations I find that d********g. People allow their dogs, cats too, to just climb up on their chairs, couches, beds, etc. They sleep with them. Then they go there, and maybe their guests too, if they actually allow anyone into their home now. All t***smission points. And cats walking on tables were food is served, and kitchen counters. D********g. Food is prepared there and their cats could be carrying the v***s there after sitting in another carriers lap or licking them. People are stuck at home and they, many, treat their pets as their own babies or little children with them in their lap all day, licking them constantly. Beware, they could be carriers. I always wash my hands after touching someone else's animal, and I wouldn't even allow it now.

I think my birds are a lot safer, and contact is less. Just feeding and cleaning and then washing my hands. Always do it anyway.

Reptiles? It won't die on their skin right away. Might last for hours.

Live stock on the farm. Probably a lot safer. We don't pet them and let them lick us anywhere near as much as cats and dogs. And then. maybe once a day at feeding time or such.

I've read where it might be a real problem with the lowland gorilla in the wilds in Africa. They can get infected like humans. One infection could lead to 500 gorillas dying in pain in the wild. There are only 1000 left now. And that goes for those in Zoos. I'm sure they are doing their best to isolate them and treat them as humanly, that is like a vulnerable human, as possible.

Just some thoughts. Where are you on this? What do you think now? Any ideas?

I don't have the answers, It is just something I a... (show quote)

We know the SIF v***s lives on plastic and metal for a long time, but does not live on cloth or other porous material.... having said that, it is possible for it to live on pet hairs for a short time. Right now, the only 2 pets that have tested positive are 2 dogs in Hong Kong. There is some thought that it may be able to pass to cats, though. SARS is a very similar v***s and experimentally a few cats were able to be infected during that outbreak. The good news is they showed no clinical signs and did not seem to get sick from it. So while there is a possibility, no cats have yet been found to be infected and if they were, it is suspected they will be like dogs: infected but not sick or infectious. Meaning your pet or livestock will not give you the v***s, but t***sversely, if you get sick you can infect your pet or livestock....but, the likelihood of them getting sick and passing it to other animals seem unlikely at this point. More testing and observation is necessary to say if they do or do not become carriers.

son of witless

LogicallyRight wrote:

I don't have the answers, It is just something I am looking at in a logical manner.

From what I've read, dogs can't get the Kung Flu. But the Carona V***s can settle on various types of services for various lengths of time. You walk your dog. You meet another dog walker. Fist bumps. Then pet each others dogs. Is it in the fur from the last person that pet it. What about the i***ts that let dogs lick them everywhere, hands, faces, etc. It doesn't die immediately after touching the dogs fur, or saliva. In normal situations I find that d********g. People allow their dogs, cats too, to just climb up on their chairs, couches, beds, etc. They sleep with them. Then they go there, and maybe their guests too, if they actually allow anyone into their home now. All t***smission points. And cats walking on tables were food is served, and kitchen counters. D********g. Food is prepared there and their cats could be carrying the v***s there after sitting in another carriers lap or licking them. People are stuck at home and they, many, treat their pets as their own babies or little children with them in their lap all day, licking them constantly. Beware, they could be carriers. I always wash my hands after touching someone else's animal, and I wouldn't even allow it now.

I think my birds are a lot safer, and contact is less. Just feeding and cleaning and then washing my hands. Always do it anyway.

Reptiles? It won't die on their skin right away. Might last for hours.

Live stock on the farm. Probably a lot safer. We don't pet them and let them lick us anywhere near as much as cats and dogs. And then. maybe once a day at feeding time or such.

I've read where it might be a real problem with the lowland gorilla in the wilds in Africa. They can get infected like humans. One infection could lead to 500 gorillas dying in pain in the wild. There are only 1000 left now. And that goes for those in Zoos. I'm sure they are doing their best to isolate them and treat them as humanly, that is like a vulnerable human, as possible.

Just some thoughts. Where are you on this? What do you think now? Any ideas?

I don't have the answers, It is just something I a... (show quote)

What you do not want is humans, pigs, and fowl together in any concentrations or for extended periods. Pigs can catch avian and human Flu v***ses, allow them to mutate and then pass them back and forth.

In America that is not a problem. In some countries it is. Monkeys, gorillas, and dogs I do not see as potential problems.

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

LogicallyRight wrote:

I don't have the answers, It is just something I am looking at in a logical manner.

From what I've read, dogs can't get the Kung Flu. But the Carona V***s can settle on various types of services for various lengths of time. You walk your dog. You meet another dog walker. Fist bumps. Then pet each others dogs. Is it in the fur from the last person that pet it. What about the i***ts that let dogs lick them everywhere, hands, faces, etc. It doesn't die immediately after touching the dogs fur, or saliva. In normal situations I find that d********g. People allow their dogs, cats too, to just climb up on their chairs, couches, beds, etc. They sleep with them. Then they go there, and maybe their guests too, if they actually allow anyone into their home now. All t***smission points. And cats walking on tables were food is served, and kitchen counters. D********g. Food is prepared there and their cats could be carrying the v***s there after sitting in another carriers lap or licking them. People are stuck at home and they, many, treat their pets as their own babies or little children with them in their lap all day, licking them constantly. Beware, they could be carriers. I always wash my hands after touching someone else's animal, and I wouldn't even allow it now.

I think my birds are a lot safer, and contact is less. Just feeding and cleaning and then washing my hands. Always do it anyway.

Reptiles? It won't die on their skin right away. Might last for hours.

Live stock on the farm. Probably a lot safer. We don't pet them and let them lick us anywhere near as much as cats and dogs. And then. maybe once a day at feeding time or such.

I've read where it might be a real problem with the lowland gorilla in the wilds in Africa. They can get infected like humans. One infection could lead to 500 gorillas dying in pain in the wild. There are only 1000 left now. And that goes for those in Zoos. I'm sure they are doing their best to isolate them and treat them as humanly, that is like a vulnerable human, as possible.

Just some thoughts. Where are you on this? What do you think now? Any ideas?

I don't have the answers, It is just something I a... (show quote)

"Don't worry, be happy"?

BigMike Loc: yerington nv

roy wrote:

Humans are the carriers

My cats don't go far.

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

son of witless wrote:

What you do not want is humans, pigs, and fowl together in any concentrations or for extended periods. Pigs can catch avian and human Flu v***ses, allow them to mutate and then pass them back and forth.

In America that is not a problem. In some countries it is. Monkeys, gorillas, and dogs I do not see as potential problems.

This might be a problem when, and where, mankind is constantly encroaching on tropical forests; Borneo, Amazon, Congo, etc. it puts us in closer contact with animals that may have v***ses they are immune to but we aren't. Part of the reason Europeans came to dominate much of the Western Hemisphere is because of their immunity from having close quarters with livestock, yet they carried diseases to the indigenous peoples of the New World. Thoughts?

woodguru

LogicallyRight wrote:

I don't have the answers, It is just something I am looking at in a logical manner...
You walk your dog. You meet another dog walker. Fist bumps.

Right there...wrong, people who get that this is serious are not doing fist bumps, or letting someone pet their dogs either...this is the difference between people, the divide.

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

LogicallyRight wrote:

I don't have the answers, It is just something I am looking at in a logical manner.

From what I've read, dogs can't get the Kung Flu. But the Carona V***s can settle on various types of services for various lengths of time. You walk your dog. You meet another dog walker. Fist bumps. Then pet each others dogs. Is it in the fur from the last person that pet it. What about the i***ts that let dogs lick them everywhere, hands, faces, etc. It doesn't die immediately after touching the dogs fur, or saliva. In normal situations I find that d********g. People allow their dogs, cats too, to just climb up on their chairs, couches, beds, etc. They sleep with them. Then they go there, and maybe their guests too, if they actually allow anyone into their home now. All t***smission points. And cats walking on tables were food is served, and kitchen counters. D********g. Food is prepared there and their cats could be carrying the v***s there after sitting in another carriers lap or licking them. People are stuck at home and they, many, treat their pets as their own babies or little children with them in their lap all day, licking them constantly. Beware, they could be carriers. I always wash my hands after touching someone else's animal, and I wouldn't even allow it now.

I think my birds are a lot safer, and contact is less. Just feeding and cleaning and then washing my hands. Always do it anyway.

Reptiles? It won't die on their skin right away. Might last for hours.

Live stock on the farm. Probably a lot safer. We don't pet them and let them lick us anywhere near as much as cats and dogs. And then. maybe once a day at feeding time or such.

I've read where it might be a real problem with the lowland gorilla in the wilds in Africa. They can get infected like humans. One infection could lead to 500 gorillas dying in pain in the wild. There are only 1000 left now. And that goes for those in Zoos. I'm sure they are doing their best to isolate them and treat them as humanly, that is like a vulnerable human, as possible.

Just some thoughts. Where are you on this? What do you think now? Any ideas?

I don't have the answers, It is just something I a... (show quote)

I have a pet carrier, no, not a cute cuddly warship, a thing to carry pets in. Do I need to put it down?

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

lpnmajor wrote:

I have a pet carrier, no, not a cute cuddly warship, a thing to carry pets in. Do I need to put it down?

No, you need to be put down.

son of witless

dtucker300 wrote:

This might be a problem when, and where, mankind is constantly encroaching on tropical forests; Borneo, Amazon, Congo, etc. it puts us in closer contact with animals that may have v***ses they are immune to but we aren't. Part of the reason Europeans came to dominate much of the Western Hemisphere is because of their immunity from having close quarters with livestock, yet they carried diseases to the indigenous peoples of the New World. Thoughts?

Small pox, cow pox are examples of what you say. Many hereditary diseases are evolutionary disease immune responses. Europeans carry genes that sometimes cause problems but do not die out because they give some resistance to diseases their ancestors faced. The same with B****s and some Mediterranean groups who were subjected to Malaria. Sickle cell Anemia carriers have resistance to Malaria. It is only when the genes line up that the anemia comes out.

It is possible that some ethnic groups may have resistance to the C****a V***s because in the ancient past a similar v***s attacked their ancestors.

Tug484

LogicallyRight wrote:

I don't have the answers, It is just something I am looking at in a logical manner.

From what I've read, dogs can't get the Kung Flu. But the Carona V***s can settle on various types of services for various lengths of time. You walk your dog. You meet another dog walker. Fist bumps. Then pet each others dogs. Is it in the fur from the last person that pet it. What about the i***ts that let dogs lick them everywhere, hands, faces, etc. It doesn't die immediately after touching the dogs fur, or saliva. In normal situations I find that d********g. People allow their dogs, cats too, to just climb up on their chairs, couches, beds, etc. They sleep with them. Then they go there, and maybe their guests too, if they actually allow anyone into their home now. All t***smission points. And cats walking on tables were food is served, and kitchen counters. D********g. Food is prepared there and their cats could be carrying the v***s there after sitting in another carriers lap or licking them. People are stuck at home and they, many, treat their pets as their own babies or little children with them in their lap all day, licking them constantly. Beware, they could be carriers. I always wash my hands after touching someone else's animal, and I wouldn't even allow it now.

I think my birds are a lot safer, and contact is less. Just feeding and cleaning and then washing my hands. Always do it anyway.

Reptiles? It won't die on their skin right away. Might last for hours.

Live stock on the farm. Probably a lot safer. We don't pet them and let them lick us anywhere near as much as cats and dogs. And then. maybe once a day at feeding time or such.

I've read where it might be a real problem with the lowland gorilla in the wilds in Africa. They can get infected like humans. One infection could lead to 500 gorillas dying in pain in the wild. There are only 1000 left now. And that goes for those in Zoos. I'm sure they are doing their best to isolate them and treat them as humanly, that is like a vulnerable human, as possible.

Just some thoughts. Where are you on this? What do you think now? Any ideas?

I don't have the answers, It is just something I a... (show quote)

Dogs can get it, but they can't give it to us.

LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago

I still say that if someone who has the v***s touches the dog, then where they were touched, mouth or fur, has the v***s until it dies. If you touch or are touched by that area, it can now t***sfered to you, just like shaking the hand of a carrier. It is simple logic. It might not live long on a dogs fur, or tongue, but how long does it have to live in dog to human interactions.

Logically Right

Lt. Rob Polans ret.

LogicallyRight wrote:

I don't have the answers, It is just something I am looking at in a logical manner.

From what I've read, dogs can't get the Kung Flu. But the Carona V***s can settle on various types of services for various lengths of time. You walk your dog. You meet another dog walker. Fist bumps. Then pet each others dogs. Is it in the fur from the last person that pet it. What about the i***ts that let dogs lick them everywhere, hands, faces, etc. It doesn't die immediately after touching the dogs fur, or saliva. In normal situations I find that d********g. People allow their dogs, cats too, to just climb up on their chairs, couches, beds, etc. They sleep with them. Then they go there, and maybe their guests too, if they actually allow anyone into their home now. All t***smission points. And cats walking on tables were food is served, and kitchen counters. D********g. Food is prepared there and their cats could be carrying the v***s there after sitting in another carriers lap or licking them. People are stuck at home and they, many, treat their pets as their own babies or little children with them in their lap all day, licking them constantly. Beware, they could be carriers. I always wash my hands after touching someone else's animal, and I wouldn't even allow it now.

I think my birds are a lot safer, and contact is less. Just feeding and cleaning and then washing my hands. Always do it anyway.

Reptiles? It won't die on their skin right away. Might last for hours.

Live stock on the farm. Probably a lot safer. We don't pet them and let them lick us anywhere near as much as cats and dogs. And then. maybe once a day at feeding time or such.

I've read where it might be a real problem with the lowland gorilla in the wilds in Africa. They can get infected like humans. One infection could lead to 500 gorillas dying in pain in the wild. There are only 1000 left now. And that goes for those in Zoos. I'm sure they are doing their best to isolate them and treat them as humanly, that is like a vulnerable human, as possible.

Just some thoughts. Where are you on this? What do you think now? Any ideas?

I don't have the answers, It is just something I a... (show quote)

My cats never go outside and we don't open the windows. I've thought about it, but there's no way possible. Well there is a way, when we take the garbage out, but we always use hand sanitizer. So we're good. I do know what you mean though. There are a few outside cats we've stopped feeding for now.