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I Would Think Everyone Would Be Against Cruise Lines Being Bailed Out...Why Would It Matter?
Mar 24, 2020 17:02:46   #
woodguru
 
Take the only partisan aspect of this away, that for some reason Trump wants the cruise industry bailed out, and we are left with only the realities, the facts. The cruise industry has no appreciable contribution to the economy. They have every ship registered in tax haven countries to evade taxes on profits, environmental regulations, and employment laws.

We have no vested interest in their survival, they contribute nothing but jobs...and the stimulus pays people who lost their jobs so the cruise industry has no reason to be bailed out.

Now it does make sense to use them for quarantine recovery and hospitals, 3500+ beds per ship would be worth paying them for on a lease and retrofit basis...put them back right when the industry is ready to support people wanting to take cruises again in another year or two.

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Mar 24, 2020 17:05:30   #
Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas
 
woodguru wrote:
Take the only partisan aspect of this away, that for some reason Trump wants the cruise industry bailed out, and we are left with only the realities, the facts. The cruise industry has no appreciable contribution to the economy. They have every ship registered in tax haven countries to evade taxes on profits, environmental regulations, and employment laws.

We have no vested interest in their survival, they contribute nothing but jobs...and the stimulus pays people who lost their jobs so the cruise industry has no reason to be bailed out.

Now it does make sense to use them for quarantine recovery and hospitals, 3500+ beds per ship would be worth paying them for on a lease and retrofit basis...put them back right when the industry is ready to support people wanting to take cruises again in another year or two.
Take the only partisan aspect of this away, that f... (show quote)


We're gonna need those cruise ships to t***sport all the democrats to China after we deport their worthless asses.

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Mar 24, 2020 17:45:42   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
woodguru wrote:
Take the only partisan aspect of this away, that for some reason Trump wants the cruise industry bailed out, and we are left with only the realities, the facts. The cruise industry has no appreciable contribution to the economy. They have every ship registered in tax haven countries to evade taxes on profits, environmental regulations, and employment laws.

We have no vested interest in their survival, they contribute nothing but jobs...and the stimulus pays people who lost their jobs so the cruise industry has no reason to be bailed out.

Now it does make sense to use them for quarantine recovery and hospitals, 3500+ beds per ship would be worth paying them for on a lease and retrofit basis...put them back right when the industry is ready to support people wanting to take cruises again in another year or two.
Take the only partisan aspect of this away, that f... (show quote)


Maybe because what happened to cruise ship industry wasn't their fault!! Maybe because he is not bailing out out industry ,but bailing out American working people!!

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Mar 24, 2020 17:52:18   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
proud republican wrote:
Maybe because what happened to cruise ship industry wasn't their fault!! Maybe because he is not bailing out out industry ,but bailing out American working people!!


As long as we offer loans I’m fine with helping them out. Thousands of jobs. I’m not for bailing out anyone.

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Mar 24, 2020 18:20:59   #
Lonewolf
 
proud republican wrote:
Maybe because what happened to cruise ship industry wasn't their fault!! Maybe because he is not bailing out out industry ,but bailing out American working people!!

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Mar 24, 2020 18:24:16   #
Lonewolf
 
proud republican wrote:
Maybe because what happened to cruise ship industry wasn't their fault!! Maybe because he is not bailing out out industry ,but bailing out American working people!!


Most fly foreign f**gs and pay no taxes in the US and hire mostly foreign workers so why should we bail them out!

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Mar 24, 2020 18:27:03   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Lonewolf wrote:
Most fly foreign f**gs and pay no taxes in the US and hire mostly foreign workers so why should we bail them out!


Depends on where the owners are head quartered.

https://www.beyondships2.com/faq---who-owns-the-various-cruise-lines.html

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Mar 24, 2020 18:37:45   #
Lonewolf
 
JFlorio wrote:
Depends on where the owners are head quartered.

https://www.beyondships2.com/faq---who-owns-the-various-cruise-lines.html


take a peak at this

https://www.cruisemapper.com/wiki/758-cruise-ship-registry-f**gs-of-convenience-f**g-state-control

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Mar 24, 2020 20:01:46   #
Trooper745 Loc: Carolina
 
Lonewolf wrote:
Most fly foreign f**gs and pay no taxes in the US and hire mostly foreign workers so why should we bail them out!


Finally, ... something on which I agree with you.

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Mar 24, 2020 21:02:47   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
woodguru wrote:
Take the only partisan aspect of this away, that for some reason Trump wants the cruise industry bailed out, and we are left with only the realities, the facts. The cruise industry has no appreciable contribution to the economy. They have every ship registered in tax haven countries to evade taxes on profits, environmental regulations, and employment laws.

We have no vested interest in their survival, they contribute nothing but jobs...and the stimulus pays people who lost their jobs so the cruise industry has no reason to be bailed out.

Now it does make sense to use them for quarantine recovery and hospitals, 3500+ beds per ship would be worth paying them for on a lease and retrofit basis...put them back right when the industry is ready to support people wanting to take cruises again in another year or two.
Take the only partisan aspect of this away, that f... (show quote)


The world would end if folks couldn't take cruises.

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Mar 24, 2020 21:03:49   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
Wolf counselor wrote:
We're gonna need those cruise ships to t***sport all the democrats to China after we deport their worthless asses.


More likely, knuckle heads like you will need a safe haven offshore.

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Mar 24, 2020 21:05:26   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
lpnmajor wrote:
The world would end if folks couldn't take cruises.


Let it end then. Went on one. H**ed it.

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Mar 24, 2020 21:16:57   #
Lonewolf
 
Trooper745 wrote:
Finally, ... something on which I agree with you.


I'm sure there's more but I raise my glass to you.

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Mar 24, 2020 21:25:48   #
Sicilianthing
 
woodguru wrote:
Take the only partisan aspect of this away, that for some reason Trump wants the cruise industry bailed out, and we are left with only the realities, the facts. The cruise industry has no appreciable contribution to the economy. They have every ship registered in tax haven countries to evade taxes on profits, environmental regulations, and employment laws.

We have no vested interest in their survival, they contribute nothing but jobs...and the stimulus pays people who lost their jobs so the cruise industry has no reason to be bailed out.

Now it does make sense to use them for quarantine recovery and hospitals, 3500+ beds per ship would be worth paying them for on a lease and retrofit basis...put them back right when the industry is ready to support people wanting to take cruises again in another year or two.
Take the only partisan aspect of this away, that f... (show quote)


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I posted this Topic yesterday.

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