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Mar 24, 2020 15:39:39   #
Larai Loc: Fallon, NV
 
Just a bit of a wake up call to folks freakin out about this c****a v***s!

"Did you know that automobile accidents are the leading cause of death among healthy U.S. citizens? Drivers who sustain fatal injuries in a single year are measured in the tens of thousands, and nearly 2.5 million are seriously hurt or permanently disabled. Statistics show that these numbers have been rising in recent years despite improvements in automobile safety features. The United States has more than 220 million licensed drivers, and they risk their lives every time they enter an automobile as driver or passenger."

https://carsurance.net/blog/car-accident-statistics/

"The WHO further reports that:

In the last 45 years suicide rates have increased by 60% worldwide. Suicide is now among the three leading causes of death among those aged 15-44 (male and female). Suicide attempts are up to 20 times more frequent than completed suicides.
Although suicide rates have traditionally been highest amongst elderly males, rates among young people have been increasing to such an extent that they are now the group at highest risk in a third of all countries.
Mental health disorders (particularly depression and substance abuse) are associated with more than 90% of all cases of suicide.
However, suicide results from many complex sociocultural factors and is more likely to occur during periods of socioeconomic, family and individual crisis (e.g. loss of a loved one, unemployment, sexual orientation, difficulties with developing one's identity, disassociation from one's community or other social/belief group, and honour)."

https://www.befrienders.org/suicide-statistics


"Overall, the CDC estimates that 12,000 and 61,000 deaths annually since 2010 can be blamed on the flu. Globally, the World Health Organization (WHO) estimates that the flu k**ls 290,000 to 650,000 people per year."

https://www.health.com/condition/cold-flu-sinus/how-many-people-die-of-the-flu-every-year

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Mar 24, 2020 15:42:18   #
Pariahjf
 
Larai wrote:
Just a bit of a wake up call to folks freakin out about this c****a v***s!

"Did you know that automobile accidents are the leading cause of death among healthy U.S. citizens? Drivers who sustain fatal injuries in a single year are measured in the tens of thousands, and nearly 2.5 million are seriously hurt or permanently disabled. Statistics show that these numbers have been rising in recent years despite improvements in automobile safety features. The United States has more than 220 million licensed drivers, and they risk their lives every time they enter an automobile as driver or passenger."

https://carsurance.net/blog/car-accident-statistics/

"The WHO further reports that:

In the last 45 years suicide rates have increased by 60% worldwide. Suicide is now among the three leading causes of death among those aged 15-44 (male and female). Suicide attempts are up to 20 times more frequent than completed suicides.
Although suicide rates have traditionally been highest amongst elderly males, rates among young people have been increasing to such an extent that they are now the group at highest risk in a third of all countries.
Mental health disorders (particularly depression and substance abuse) are associated with more than 90% of all cases of suicide.
However, suicide results from many complex sociocultural factors and is more likely to occur during periods of socioeconomic, family and individual crisis (e.g. loss of a loved one, unemployment, sexual orientation, difficulties with developing one's identity, disassociation from one's community or other social/belief group, and honour)."

https://www.befrienders.org/suicide-statistics

"In 2020, 1,806,590 new cancer cases and 606,520 cancer deaths are projected to occur in the United States. The cancer death rate rose until 1991, then fell continuously through 2017, resulting in an overall decline of 29% that t***slates into an estimat…See More
Cancer statistics, 2020

acsjournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com
Cancer statistics, 2020



"Overall, the CDC estimates that 12,000 and 61,000 deaths annually since 2010 can be blamed on the flu. Globally, the World Health Organization (WHO) estimates that the flu k**ls 290,000 to 650,000 people per year."

https://www.health.com/condition/cold-flu-sinus/how-many-people-die-of-the-flu-every-year
Just a bit of a wake up call to folks freakin out ... (show quote)


Unlike the flu, THIS v***s mutates every five days.

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Mar 24, 2020 15:46:30   #
American Vet
 
Pariahjf wrote:
Unlike the flu, THIS v***s mutates every five days.


I have not read that - please provide a link.

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Mar 24, 2020 15:53:51   #
Pariahjf
 
American Vet wrote:
I have not read that - please provide a link.


The original medical study that I saw said five days, but can't remember what health website that was. But here's a simplified version.

https://bedford.io/blog/ncov-cryptic-t***smission/

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Mar 24, 2020 15:54:20   #
Larai Loc: Fallon, NV
 
Pariahjf wrote:
Unlike the flu, THIS v***s mutates every five days.


https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/07/health/c****av***s-mutations-analysis/index.html

Quit dramatizing this...you are part of the problem... but bc I know you tend to lean dem...I thought I'd post an article you may actually read!

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Mar 24, 2020 15:56:10   #
RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia
 
Larai wrote:
Just a bit of a wake up call to folks freakin out about this c****a v***s!

"Did you know that automobile accidents are the leading cause of death among healthy U.S. citizens? Drivers who sustain fatal injuries in a single year are measured in the tens of thousands, and nearly 2.5 million are seriously hurt or permanently disabled. Statistics show that these numbers have been rising in recent years despite improvements in automobile safety features. The United States has more than 220 million licensed drivers, and they risk their lives every time they enter an automobile as driver or passenger."

https://carsurance.net/blog/car-accident-statistics/

"The WHO further reports that:

In the last 45 years suicide rates have increased by 60% worldwide. Suicide is now among the three leading causes of death among those aged 15-44 (male and female). Suicide attempts are up to 20 times more frequent than completed suicides.
Although suicide rates have traditionally been highest amongst elderly males, rates among young people have been increasing to such an extent that they are now the group at highest risk in a third of all countries.
Mental health disorders (particularly depression and substance abuse) are associated with more than 90% of all cases of suicide.
However, suicide results from many complex sociocultural factors and is more likely to occur during periods of socioeconomic, family and individual crisis (e.g. loss of a loved one, unemployment, sexual orientation, difficulties with developing one's identity, disassociation from one's community or other social/belief group, and honour)."

https://www.befrienders.org/suicide-statistics

"In 2020, 1,806,590 new cancer cases and 606,520 cancer deaths are projected to occur in the United States. The cancer death rate rose until 1991, then fell continuously through 2017, resulting in an overall decline of 29% that t***slates into an estimat…See More
Cancer statistics, 2020

acsjournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com
Cancer statistics, 2020



"Overall, the CDC estimates that 12,000 and 61,000 deaths annually since 2010 can be blamed on the flu. Globally, the World Health Organization (WHO) estimates that the flu k**ls 290,000 to 650,000 people per year."

https://www.health.com/condition/cold-flu-sinus/how-many-people-die-of-the-flu-every-year
Just a bit of a wake up call to folks freakin out ... (show quote)

It's about NOT crashing the system, there are NO immune defences against the v***s because it is new to humans, immunities will develop as people get the v***s and recover without anti biotics that's called herd immunity, until that happens the demand for respirators becomes massive as the contagion is very hidden, this already happened in China and nearly happened elsewhere, that's why the Chinese build 2 hospitals in 10 days and also chose to hunker down to contain the initial spread, the result was so good the rest of the world copied including Trump's Administration.

If Trump takes the breaks off too soon demand for respirators will go through the roof.


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Mar 24, 2020 16:01:13   #
Larai Loc: Fallon, NV
 
RT friend wrote:
It's about NOT crashing the system, there are NO immune defences against the v***s because it is new to humans, immunities will develop as people get the v***s and recover without anti biotics that's called herd immunity, until that happens the demand for respirators becomes massive as the contagion is very hidden, this already happened in China and nearly happened elsewhere, that's why the Chinese build 2 hospitals in 10 days and also chose to hunker down to contain the initial spread, the result was so good the rest of the world copied including Trump's Administration.

If Trump takes the breaks off too soon demand for respirators will go through the roof.

It's about NOT crashing the system, there are NO i... (show quote)


I understand this... why was there NO outcry during H1N1 when Obama was in office, it took him 6 months to respond in ANY way... But I digress... I am immuno c*********d, due to my cancer...however, I had the "regular flu shot" last Sept. and had the pneumonia shot before starting my chemo...even though I feel somewhat lucky, I have been self isolating...But it is my belief that somehow all the toxic s**t they put in my body is actually defending me against this... Back in 2005 I went through 10 months of Hepatitis C chemo..after I was done, I didn't get any kind of flu or cold for over 3 years...While I understand it's not about economic crash, it will if the powers that be don't quit dickin around and pass the rescue bill.. w/out Nancy's Bulls**t pork that has zero to do with the c****a v***s...she sooooo Needs to retire!!

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Mar 24, 2020 16:05:25   #
Pariahjf
 
Larai wrote:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/07/health/c****av***s-mutations-analysis/index.html

Quit dramatizing this...you are part of the problem... but bc I know you tend to lean dem...I thought I'd post an article you may actually read!


I have read it. That is interesting, too. But the fact remains is that no one really knows what's happening with this yet. And why are you using 'f**e news' links?

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Mar 24, 2020 16:06:03   #
Pariahjf
 
Larai wrote:
I understand this... why was there NO outcry during H1N1 when Obama was in office, it took him 6 months to respond in ANY way... But I digress... I am immuno c*********d, due to my cancer...however, I had the "regular flu shot" last Sept. and had the pneumonia shot before starting my chemo...even though I feel somewhat lucky, I have been self isolating...But it is my belief that somehow all the toxic s**t they put in my body is actually defending me against this... Back in 2005 I went through 10 months of Hepatitis C chemo..after I was done, I didn't get any kind of flu or cold for over 3 years...While I understand it's not about economic crash, it will if the powers that be don't quit dickin around and pass the rescue bill.. w/out Nancy's Bulls**t pork that has zero to do with the c****a v***s...she sooooo Needs to retire!!
I understand this... why was there NO outcry durin... (show quote)


This you are correct on....

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Mar 24, 2020 16:07:45   #
Larai Loc: Fallon, NV
 
Pariahjf wrote:
I have read it. That is interesting, too. But the fact remains is that no one really knows what's happening with this yet. And why are you using 'f**e news' links?


chuckles my bad on the link.. I may have misjudged shame on me regarding where you lean...it seems that MSM is saying contrary to even the "experts" on this v***s...it's very true that it's new... So was H1N1

"The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimates that between 8,870 and 18,300 people died in the U.S. from H1N1 flu during the p******c."

https://www.sharecare.com/health/swine-flu/h1n1-deaths-compared-seasonal-flu

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Mar 24, 2020 16:11:34   #
EmilyD
 
Pariahjf wrote:
Unlike the flu, THIS v***s mutates every five days.

All v***ses mutate. Your announcement that it mutates every five days falls under the "skeptical at best" category.

A recently published study suggested that the new c****av***s, SARS-CoV-2, had already mutated into one more and one less aggressive strain. But experts aren't convinced. Researchers are currently studying two different strains of this v***s: the "L" strain and the "S" strain. The researchers found the "L" type, which they deemed the more aggressive type, in 70% of the v***s samples. They also found that the prevalence of this strain decreased after early January. The more commonly found type today is the older, "S" type, because "human intervention" such as quarantines may have reduced the ability of the "L" type to spread, researchers wrote in the paper.
**********

We shouldn't worry: The word mutation "naturally conjures fears of unexpected and freakish changes," Nathan Grubaugh, an epidemiologist at the Yale School of Public Health wrote in a commentary in the journal Nature Microbiology on Feb. 18, 2020, with the title "We shouldn't worry when a v***s mutates during disease outbreaks." "In reality, mutations are a natural part of the v***s life cycle and rarely impact outbreaks dramatically. RNA v***ses, or those that have RNA as their main genetic material instead of DNA, including SARS-CoV-2, mutate constantly".

https://www.livescience.com/c****av***s-mutations.html

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Mar 24, 2020 16:15:45   #
Larai Loc: Fallon, NV
 
EmilyD wrote:
All v***ses mutate. Your announcement that it mutates every five days falls under the "skeptical at best" category.

A recently published study suggested that the new c****av***s, SARS-CoV-2, had already mutated into one more and one less aggressive strain. But experts aren't convinced. Researchers are currently studying two different strains of this v***s: the "L" strain and the "S" strain. The researchers found the "L" type, which they deemed the more aggressive type, in 70% of the v***s samples. They also found that the prevalence of this strain decreased after early January. The more commonly found type today is the older, "S" type, because "human intervention" such as quarantines may have reduced the ability of the "L" type to spread, researchers wrote in the paper.
**********

We shouldn't worry: The word mutation "naturally conjures fears of unexpected and freakish changes," Nathan Grubaugh, an epidemiologist at the Yale School of Public Health wrote in a commentary in the journal Nature Microbiology on Feb. 18, 2020, with the title "We shouldn't worry when a v***s mutates during disease outbreaks." "In reality, mutations are a natural part of the v***s life cycle and rarely impact outbreaks dramatically. RNA v***ses, or those that have RNA as their main genetic material instead of DNA, including SARS-CoV-2, mutate constantly".

https://www.livescience.com/c****av***s-mutations.html
All v***ses mutate. Your announcement that it muta... (show quote)



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Mar 24, 2020 16:17:48   #
Pariahjf
 
EmilyD wrote:
All v***ses mutate. Your announcement that it mutates every five days falls under the "skeptical at best" category.

A recently published study suggested that the new c****av***s, SARS-CoV-2, had already mutated into one more and one less aggressive strain. But experts aren't convinced. Researchers are currently studying two different strains of this v***s: the "L" strain and the "S" strain. The researchers found the "L" type, which they deemed the more aggressive type, in 70% of the v***s samples. They also found that the prevalence of this strain decreased after early January. The more commonly found type today is the older, "S" type, because "human intervention" such as quarantines may have reduced the ability of the "L" type to spread, researchers wrote in the paper.
**********

We shouldn't worry: The word mutation "naturally conjures fears of unexpected and freakish changes," Nathan Grubaugh, an epidemiologist at the Yale School of Public Health wrote in a commentary in the journal Nature Microbiology on Feb. 18, 2020, with the title "We shouldn't worry when a v***s mutates during disease outbreaks." "In reality, mutations are a natural part of the v***s life cycle and rarely impact outbreaks dramatically. RNA v***ses, or those that have RNA as their main genetic material instead of DNA, including SARS-CoV-2, mutate constantly".

https://www.livescience.com/c****av***s-mutations.html
All v***ses mutate. Your announcement that it muta... (show quote)


https://bedford.io/blog/ncov-cryptic-t***smission/

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Mar 24, 2020 16:20:02   #
RT friend Loc: Kangaroo valley NSW Australia
 
Larai wrote:
I understand this... why was there NO outcry during H1N1 when Obama was in office, it took him 6 months to respond in ANY way... But I digress... I am immuno c*********d, due to my cancer...however, I had the "regular flu shot" last Sept. and had the pneumonia shot before starting my chemo...even though I feel somewhat lucky, I have been self isolating...But it is my belief that somehow all the toxic s**t they put in my body is actually defending me against this... Back in 2005 I went through 10 months of Hepatitis C chemo..after I was done, I didn't get any kind of flu or cold for over 3 years...While I understand it's not about economic crash, it will if the powers that be don't quit dickin around and pass the rescue bill.. w/out Nancy's Bulls**t pork that has zero to do with the c****a v***s...she sooooo Needs to retire!!
I understand this... why was there NO outcry durin... (show quote)

Sorry to hear you had the interferon treatment, I went through it for 12 months, but I'm not able to post about really difficult treatments, except to say it worked for me but made me sick every day for 12 months, this situation is not like that, it's only a lead in to living with a new v***s, I didn't understand it at first.

Another way if you can't breath is to repress your i****e s****m, because it hasn't worked anyway and it's trying makes breathing even harder, I bashed down on mine for 7 days with Prednisone should only do it for 3-5 days but it kept me out of hospital, which is scarry for me, I am in last stage of recovery can't even go to the doctor have to have phone consultation and script sent to specific chemist.


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Mar 24, 2020 16:30:18   #
Larai Loc: Fallon, NV
 
RT friend wrote:
Sorry to hear you had the interferon treatment, I went through it for 12 months, but I'm not able to post about really difficult treatments, except to say it worked for me but made me sick every day for 12 months, this situation is not like that, it's only a lead in to living with a new v***s, I didn't understand it at first.

Another way if you can't breath is to repress your i****e s****m, because it hasn't worked anyway and it's trying makes breathing even harder, I bashed down on mine for 7 days with Prednisone should only do it for 3-5 days but it kept me out of hospital, which is scarry for me, I am in last stage of recovery can't even go to the doctor have to have phone consultation and script sent to specific chemist.

Sorry to hear you had the interferon treatment, I ... (show quote)


Yes, the interferon was deff an ass kicker to be sure!!... and I have read about this v***s, basically, it will be back next year and the year after and so on... At the moment, I am currently on an antibiotic, due to an infection..but it's not the flu..totally unrelated.. I'm taking clindamycin, which is working... my oncologist's office called me last week in order to push out my next appt. til May.. it was scheduled for March 18th, fortunately it isn't dire to see him right now...but yes...phone or message a doc, not many docs here do telemedicine...and my doc is a 130 mile round trip so that would've been handy to be able to chat in like skype or... it can be very frustrating...I live alone with my pup...so no one to infect here...

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