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Mar 23, 2020 17:52:58   #
PeterS
 
Trump invoked the DPA last week and he is refusing to implement now because he thinks it's socialism. Didn't Trump say that this was war? In WWII the government had taken over almost all of manufacturing so that it could be dev**ed to the war effort. Does he not understand that because businesses are required to aid in the defense of the country that isn't socialism but survival?

I can't say that I am surprised by Trump's actions. He wouldn't defend the country during Vietnam so why would we expect him to defend it now!

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Mar 23, 2020 17:55:27   #
Liberty Tree
 
PeterS wrote:
Trump invoked the DPA last week and he is refusing to implement now because he thinks it's socialism. Didn't Trump say that this was war? In WWII the government had taken over almost all of manufacturing so that it could be dev**ed to the war effort. Does he not understand that because businesses are required to aid in the defense of the country that isn't socialism but survival?

I can't say that I am surprised by Trump's actions. He wouldn't defend the country during Vietnam so why would we expect him to defend it now!
Trump invoked the DPA last week and he is refusing... (show quote)


You supported phony abuse of power impeachment, but now you complain that he does not use more power.

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Mar 23, 2020 17:58:26   #
BigJim
 
I am sure all companies will do all they can to meet the needs in this crisis. Invoking the act would just be showboating, and would not make any difference in supplies. Demanding Trump invoke the act is just showboating, trying to make political hay from a crisis.

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Mar 23, 2020 17:59:49   #
teabag09
 
PeterS wrote:
Trump invoked the DPA last week and he is refusing to implement now because he thinks it's socialism. Didn't Trump say that this was war? In WWII the government had taken over almost all of manufacturing so that it could be dev**ed to the war effort. Does he not understand that because businesses are required to aid in the defense of the country that isn't socialism but survival?

I can't say that I am surprised by Trump's actions. He wouldn't defend the country during Vietnam so why would we expect him to defend it now!
Trump invoked the DPA last week and he is refusing... (show quote)


I think the President has a far greater handle on what to use or not use than you'd ever be able to figure out even if you had the information he has. Go away pest. Mike

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Mar 23, 2020 18:37:12   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
PeterS wrote:
Trump invoked the DPA last week and he is refusing to implement now because he thinks it's socialism. Didn't Trump say that this was war? In WWII the government had taken over almost all of manufacturing so that it could be dev**ed to the war effort. Does he not understand that because businesses are required to aid in the defense of the country that isn't socialism but survival?

I can't say that I am surprised by Trump's actions. He wouldn't defend the country during Vietnam so why would we expect him to defend it now!
Trump invoked the DPA last week and he is refusing... (show quote)
The federal government DID NOT take over private industry during WW2, you nimrod. The American people did what real Americans always do when facing a crisis, they go to work on the problem to fix it.

Even now, in the face of this p******c, Americans in private businesses and corporations are restructuring their production and retooling manufacturing to either develop or provide the critical items we need, and they are doing this without any help from the government.

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Mar 24, 2020 06:35:30   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
PeterS wrote:
Trump invoked the DPA last week and he is refusing to implement now because he thinks it's socialism. Didn't Trump say that this was war? In WWII the government had taken over almost all of manufacturing so that it could be dev**ed to the war effort. Does he not understand that because businesses are required to aid in the defense of the country that isn't socialism but survival?

I can't say that I am surprised by Trump's actions. He wouldn't defend the country during Vietnam so why would we expect him to defend it now!
Trump invoked the DPA last week and he is refusing... (show quote)


He said he will use it if necessary. Why do you leave out the meat of what he said? That's lying by omission. He is probably waiting to see what Schumer and Nancy do this morning with the v**e. 9 AM EST, I think. The left nor right will give an inch IMHO. But the right is logically right.

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Mar 24, 2020 09:44:43   #
jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin
 
Peewee wrote:
He said he will use it if necessary. Why do you leave out the meat of what he said? That's lying by omission. He is probably waiting to see what Schumer and Nancy do this morning with the v**e. 9 AM EST, I think. The left nor right will give an inch IMHO. But the right is logically right.


please explain on how you came up with that conclusion

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Mar 24, 2020 10:15:47   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
jimpack123 wrote:
please explain on how you came up with that conclusion


I heard him say it.

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Mar 24, 2020 10:19:13   #
jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin
 
Peewee wrote:
I heard him say it.


I was refering to your take on the right being right when the right is controled by the left in a human brain. lol

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Mar 24, 2020 10:41:43   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
jimpack123 wrote:
I was refering to your take on the right being right when the right is controled by the left in a human brain. lol


God works in mysterious ways. Women's brains shift sides much faster than men's. They have automatics and we have a three-speed gearbox with a heavy-duty clutch, but we're usually right in the long run.

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Mar 24, 2020 11:05:28   #
kemmer
 
PeterS wrote:
Trump invoked the DPA last week and he is refusing to implement now because he thinks it's socialism. Didn't Trump say that this was war? In WWII the government had taken over almost all of manufacturing so that it could be dev**ed to the war effort. Does he not understand that because businesses are required to aid in the defense of the country that isn't socialism but survival?

I can't say that I am surprised by Trump's actions. He wouldn't defend the country during Vietnam so why would we expect him to defend it now!
Trump invoked the DPA last week and he is refusing... (show quote)

The DPA has not been enforced by Trump because corporate CEOs told him not to because it would involve a lot of inconvenient red tape on their part.

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Mar 24, 2020 11:32:17   #
jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin
 
kemmer wrote:
The DPA has not been enforced by Trump because corporate CEOs told him not to because it would involve a lot of inconvenient red tape on their part.


bull crap

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Mar 24, 2020 11:41:30   #
kemmer
 
jimpack123 wrote:
bull crap

True nonetheless.

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Mar 24, 2020 11:50:33   #
EmilyD
 
jimpack123 wrote:
please explain on how you came up with that conclusion

Trump said exactly this at his Sunday press briefing when a reporter asked about this. He said many companies all over the country were already offering their own help without any pressure from the government. He mentioned Hanes (the company that makes cotton t-shirts and underwear) will start mass-producing masks. Other companies like Ford and Chevy will begin making ventilators (in fact he said there was one company in New Hampshire - a metal working company - called to say they could make ventilators), a company that makes whiskey and alcohol, called to say they could make hand sanitizers, etc. Why should he invoke a bill that says they HAVE to do something they already are willing to do? Why should he give other businesses who might offer their help in the future a message they are going to be taken over by the government? He might use it later on "down the chain" as he put it, but it is not needed just yet.

If you don't believe me, just google Sunday's coroniv***s press briefing - it started at 5:00 pm (est) and ended after 7 pm.

You may be able to view it, also, on https://www.whitehouse.gov/

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Mar 24, 2020 11:55:01   #
EmilyD
 
kemmer wrote:
The DPA has not been enforced by Trump because corporate CEOs told him not to because it would involve a lot of inconvenient red tape on their part.

THAT is an outright lie! Trump has signed it and has it ready to go.....read my response to jimpack123 about Sunday evening's c****av***s press briefing...

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