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Mar 24, 2020 07:25:37   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Tug484 wrote:
Me too.
We need a miracle.


Amen, its coming, Tug~~

As Spring rolls in so does a new phase of life spring with it~~



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Mar 24, 2020 07:35:45   #
Tug484
 
lindajoy wrote:
Amen, its coming, Tug~~

As Spring rolls in so does a new phase of life spring with it~~


Yes and thank you for the beautiful picture.

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Mar 24, 2020 07:45:58   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Tug484 wrote:
Yes and thank you for the beautiful picture.


Your Welcome...

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Mar 24, 2020 07:47:13   #
Tug484
 
lindajoy wrote:
Your Welcome...



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Mar 24, 2020 12:44:02   #
Sicilianthing
 
Tug484 wrote:
My daughter in law told me today our grocery store is empty.


>>>

All I can tell you is the delivery trucks are getting further and further apart.

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Mar 24, 2020 16:07:59   #
Tug484
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
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All I can tell you is the delivery trucks are getting further and further apart.


Evidently.

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Mar 24, 2020 20:24:08   #
Navigator
 
no propaganda please wrote:
Media Attacks Trump for ‘Very Good News’
David A. Keene
By
David A. Keene
March 23, 2020
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National Institutes of Health via Wikimedia Commons

President Donald Trump’s media and partisan critics were quick to pile on when the President suggested at a press conference last Thursday that an inexpensive and widely available drug – first approved for the treatment of Malaria and some forms of arthritis in 1949 – might prove useful in treating those infected by the C****av***s or, as we are now supposed to call it, C****-**. In doing so they were quick to point out that his own experts, Dr. Anthony F***i and FDA Commissioner Stephan Hahn seemed to disagree with him.

But did they? When asked by a Fox News reporter if the drug, chloroquine, could prevent one from infection, F***i responded bluntly. “The answer is no,“ he said, “And the evidence … is anecdotal evidence, so as the commissioner of FDA and the President mentioned yesterday, we’re trying to strike a balance between making something with a potential of an effect to the American people available, at the same time we do it under the auspices of a protocol that would give us information to determine if it’s truly safe and truly effective, but the information that you’re referring to specifically is anecdotal; it was not done in a controlled clinical trial, so you really can’t make any.”

The media and Trump’s critics, excited by the possibility they could claim the President wrongly cited F***i. But the President never claimed either 1) that he could be sure the drug would work and 2) certainly didn’t claim it would work as a v*****e. What he did say was that other nations are prescribing it for those who have contracted the v***s because it seems to shorten their hospital stays and ameliorate the worst symptoms. If that’s true, making it widely available could potentially lessen the expected over-crowding of existing medical facilities, keep some who contract the v***s out of the hospital and hasten their recovery. That would be, as the President suggested, “very good news.”

But the New York Times, among others, used F***i’s comments to attack Trump in a series of news reports. One headline “Trump’s Embrace of Unproven Drugs to Treat C****av***s Defies Science.” This in spite of the fact that numerous countries that are dispensing the drug now are reporting precisely the reports that the president referred to in his remarks. Those countries include China, Australia, Norway, Britain, South Korea and Belgium.

What F***i and Hahn were saying was that this country insists on long and expensive testing before any drug is made available to the public or allowed to be prescribed for what are known as “off label” uses. Thus, while other countries can move forward with a promising treatment that has been proven safe for other uses, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration – while promising to speed things up or, as the President is demanding, “cut the red tape,” – may well continue to insist on extensive testing and new trials before approving its use to alleviate the suffering of infected American. Typically such tests cost millions and can take months or years to complete which is why treatment for other conditions available elsewhere are often denied to Americans.

Sometimes these requirements make sense … and sometimes they do not. This is one of those times. If the p******c is a global p******c then Americans should have access to the same treatment available elsewhere … The New York Times and the Food and Drug Administration’s bureaucrats notwithstanding.



What’s with F***i and his morbid reluctance to allow us to Try – that HydroxyChloroquine and pak to make up the cocktail is working 100% as has been said.
Why would Daniel Dae Kim (of Hawaii Five O) who came down with the W***n V***s one day and lambasted Trump for not allowing him to Try the drug, did get the cocktail and the day after his tirade against Trump he was praising HCQ b/c he is on the road to recovery?
What Daniel has done is make F***i out to be a fraud which the man probably isn’t after all but he is putting up an obstruction and that is unacceptable – I mean just how far does he think he’s supposed to go to show allegiance to Obama and not American Citizens who’re represented by Trump anyway ! – His Trump Derangement Syndrome has no place.
There’s something weird about F***i, of course he’s an Obama holdover but REALLY it’s time for him to put MEDICINE first or else get off the platform and let Dr. Birx in to lead that team who is also an Obama holdover but has been putting her medicine for America First.

Nowhere did Trump say the drug coctail was a cure. What he said was that it might shorten the infectious period. It is pathetic that they intentionally distorted his comments but not surprising. The origin of this technique is in the Soviet Union Disinformation agenda>
Media Attacks Trump for ‘Very Good News’ br David ... (show quote)


F***i's bureaucratic obstructionism is extraordinarily frustrating and, unlike its characterization by the NY Times, chloroquine is one of the most approved drugs on the planet; I was taking chloroquine for malaria when I was based in Saudi Arabia in the early 90's. Its success is not truly anecdotal except in the technical sense that there have been no clinical trials for its use with C****-**. In addition to truly anecdotal reports from patients and patients families, there have been dozens of reports from overseas doctors and hospitals who have been using chloroquine quite successfully. Hopefully Trump will strongarm F***i and the FDA into authorizing the use of chloroquine for patients hospitalized for C****-** before I am gasping my last breath and being denied it.

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Mar 24, 2020 20:42:33   #
Tug484
 
Navigator wrote:
F***i's bureaucratic obstructionism is extraordinarily frustrating and, unlike its characterization by the NY Times, chloroquine is one of the most approved drugs on the planet; I was taking chloroquine for malaria when I was based in Saudi Arabia in the early 90's. Its success is not truly anecdotal except in the technical sense that there have been no clinical trials for its use with C****-**. In addition to truly anecdotal reports from patients and patients families, there have been dozens of reports from overseas doctors and hospitals who have been using chloroquine quite successfully. Hopefully Trump will strongarm F***i and the FDA into authorizing the use of chloroquine for patients hospitalized for C****-** before I am gasping my last breath and being denied it.
F***i's bureaucratic obstructionism is extraordina... (show quote)


The guy that died from taking chloroquine phosph**e which is for fish tanks has caused a lot on the left to blame Trump.
The man should have known better.

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Mar 24, 2020 20:54:02   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Tug484 wrote:
The guy that died from taking chloroquine phosph**e which is for fish tanks has caused a lot on the left to blame Trump.
The man should have known better.


I have used the aquarium version in our 100 gallon rift lake ciclid tanks and it works well but it does say NOT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION. Read instructions always!!

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Mar 24, 2020 20:55:11   #
Tug484
 
no propaganda please wrote:
I have used the aquarium version in our 100 gallon rift lake ciclid tanks and it works well but it does say NOT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION. Read instructions always!!


I can't believe he did it, but it's insane to blame Trump.

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Mar 24, 2020 21:34:21   #
Navigator
 
Tug484 wrote:
The guy that died from taking chloroquine phosph**e which is for fish tanks has caused a lot on the left to blame Trump.
The man should have known better.


Its easy to say he should have known better but how many people are chemically literate? I am a retired HS physics and chemistry teacher and only about 25% of the students in the school where I taught took chemistry. To many people, chloroquine and chloroquine phosph**e is a meaningless difference. How many chemically illiterate people appreciate the distinction between table salt, Sodium Chloride, and the deadly poisons Sodium or Chlorine? Would anyone blame Trump for saying he puts Sodium Chloride on many of the things he eats and then someone sprinkled Sodium on his steak, ate it and then died? Probably not.

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Mar 24, 2020 21:42:35   #
Tug484
 
Navigator wrote:
Its easy to say he should have known better but how many people are chemically literate? I am a retired HS physics and chemistry teacher and only about 25% of the students in the school where I taught took chemistry. To many people, chloroquine and chloroquine phosph**e is a meaningless difference. How many chemically illiterate people appreciate the distinction between table salt, Sodium Chloride, and the deadly poisons Sodium or Chlorine? Would anyone blame Trump for saying he puts Sodium Chloride on many of the things he eats and then someone sprinkled Sodium on his steak, ate it and then died? Probably not.
Its easy to say he should have known better but ho... (show quote)



I'm sure he could have read the label.

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Mar 24, 2020 21:59:36   #
Navigator
 
[quote=Tug484]I'm sure he could have read the label.[/quote

Not only could have, should have. Many people however, self-medicate and take dog vitamins and medicines and their relatives old medicines in a pinch, so its not like they're the only people who might do this. I feel bad for them but their uninformed actions are not the fault of Trump.

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Mar 24, 2020 22:06:47   #
Tug484
 
[quote=Navigator][quote=Tug484]I'm sure he could have read the label.[/quote

Not only could have, should have. Many people however, self-medicate and take dog vitamins and medicines and their relatives old medicines in a pinch, so its not like they're the only people who might do this. I feel bad for them but their uninformed actions are not the fault of Trump.[/quote]


I agree and have you considered that Pelosi waltzed in Sunday and put on the brakes?
Then says, they'll put forward their own bill.
There is no way that bill was produced that fast.
They've had it ready to be able to pounce.

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Mar 24, 2020 22:21:11   #
Navigator
 
Tug484 wrote:
I agree and have you considered that Pelosi waltzed in Sunday and put on the brakes?
Then says, they'll put forward their own bill.
There is no way that bill was produced that fast.
They've had it ready to be able to pounce.


Never let a crisis go to waste,

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