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Mar 22, 2020 18:38:15   #
Lonewolf
 
US c****av***s cases top 30,000 as New York governor estimates 40% to 80% of state will get c****av***s

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-c****av***s-cases-top-30000-as-new-york-governor-estimates-40percent-to-80percent-of-state-will-get-c****av***s/ar-BB11wD3I?li=BBnb7Kz

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Mar 22, 2020 19:04:41   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Lonewolf wrote:


That's brutal... My prayers for them...


I'm amazed when I hear that people can't get tested... But please remember that in the early days here in China there were lots of people who couldn't get tested as well....

The important thing is to get help to those who need it... Especially the elderly..

Stay strong....

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Mar 22, 2020 19:09:17   #
Lonewolf
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
That's brutal... My prayers for them...


I'm amazed when I hear that people can't get tested... But please remember that in the early days here in China there were lots of people who couldn't get tested as well....

The important thing is to get help to those who need it... Especially the elderly..

Stay strong....


agree but we have a large population of me me people who thinks we own them everything now they brake in your car to steel your toilet paper. the older folks are pulling together and helping each other

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Mar 22, 2020 19:15:03   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Lonewolf wrote:
agree but we have a large population of me me people who thinks we own them everything now they brake in your car to steel your toilet paper. the older folks are pulling together and helping each other


Young folk everywhere tend to be more selfish... That's not an American thing...

In some cities over here the bars and clubs are opening again and the young folk are partying....

Going to be hit by a second wave if we're not careful....

Hope you've got lots of TP

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Mar 22, 2020 19:55:07   #
Lonewolf
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Young folk everywhere tend to be more selfish... That's not an American thing...

In some cities over here the bars and clubs are opening again and the young folk are partying....

Going to be hit by a second wave if we're not careful....

Hope you've got lots of TP


That's funny we had 4 rools and each time we have shooed it was all gone whuch I really blame on the stores. A elderly friend of mine heard about this and drove about 20 miles to give me 6 so I'm set . Wife actually saw a women coming out of a store with some!
I sure hope your wrong about the second wave we have a 12 year old in bad shape so not all youth escapes. Take care of yourself.

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Mar 22, 2020 20:07:51   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Lonewolf wrote:
That's funny we had 4 rools and each time we have shooed it was all gone whuch I really blame on the stores. A elderly friend of mine heard about this and drove about 20 miles to give me 6 so I'm set . Wife actually saw a women coming out of a store with some!
I sure hope your wrong about the second wave we have a 12 year old in bad shape so not all youth escapes. Take care of yourself.


I hope I'm wrong as well...

Italy is reporting that there are more and more young victims... Maybe it takes longer to hit them....

Glad you are set TP wise...

You take care as well...

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Mar 23, 2020 08:59:25   #
Lonewolf
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
I hope I'm wrong as well...

Italy is reporting that there are more and more young victims... Maybe it takes longer to hit them....

Glad you are set TP wise...

You take care as well...


My son lives in the Cz republic and they got 1 case and shut the country down even a Cz citizens can't get back in, everything is closed except food and medicine.
I believe they are on the right track we will see.

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Mar 23, 2020 09:23:52   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Lonewolf wrote:
My son lives in the Cz republic and they got 1 case and shut the country down even a Cz citizens can't get back in, everything is closed except food and medicine.
I believe they are on the right track we will see.


I agree....

Hope he stays safe... My prayers for him...

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Mar 23, 2020 09:28:17   #
Lonewolf
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
I agree....

Hope he stays safe... My prayers for him...


Are you seeing any more cases

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Mar 23, 2020 09:29:58   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Lonewolf wrote:
Are you seeing any more cases


Not domestic...

Some being brought in to the nation... But all quarantined...

Everyone is quarantined for 14 days upon entry now... Regardless of health...

Costly... But effective...

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Mar 23, 2020 09:39:38   #
Lonewolf
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Not domestic...

Some being brought in to the nation... But all quarantined...

Everyone is quarantined for 14 days upon entry now... Regardless of health...

Costly... But effective...


Smart move we seem to turn them lose like the last batch of Americans that came back .
Hard to believe But there are 30 cruise ships floating around yet.

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Mar 23, 2020 09:42:03   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Lonewolf wrote:
Smart move we seem to turn them lose like the last batch of Americans that came back .
Hard to believe But there are 30 cruise ships floating around yet.


Heard Trump saying that y'all are still bringing folk in from infected areas... Hope they're being quarantined...

But I doubt it matters now.... It's already loose...

Heard the NY Governor explaining that up 40-60% of the state may be infected...

Hope that's a mistake...

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Mar 23, 2020 09:46:22   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Lonewolf wrote:
Smart move we seem to turn them lose like the last batch of Americans that came back .
Hard to believe But there are 30 cruise ships floating around yet.


And now this is coming out... Although I haven't confirmed it yet.. Just one source..

A Third of C****av***s Cases May be ‘Silent Carriers’
ChinaWire

The number of people infected with c****av***s who show no or delayed symptoms could be as high as one-third of those who test positive for the disease.

According to classified Chinese government data, the true scale and of the hidden number of these 'silent carriers' could be higher than first thought.

This discovery has huge ramifications for the strategies being used by countries to contain the v***s.

Scientists are currently unable to agree on what role asymptomatic t***smission plays in spreading the disease and how infectious people with no symptoms are.

A growing number of scientists are now challenging the World Health Organisation's earlier statement that asymptomatic t***smission was 'extremely rare'.

A report by the WHO's international mission to China estimated that asymptomatic infections accounted for 1 to 3 per cent of cases.

In February, a group of Japanese experts led by Hiroshi Nishiura, an epidemiologist at Hokkaido University, wrote a letter to the International Journal of Infectious Diseases.

Nishiura said: 'The number of novel c****av***s (C****-**) cases worldwide continues to grow, and the gap between reports from China and statistical estimates of incidence based on cases diagnosed outside China indicates that a substantial number of cases are underdiagnosed.'

Nishiura put the proportion of asymptomatic Japanese patients evacuated from W***n at 30.8 per cent, a figure similar to the classified Chinese government data.

Nishiura added: 'The asymptomatic ratio … could be higher among children than in older adults. That would considerably change our scope of the outbreak, and even the optimal interventions can change.'

The WHO counts all people who test positive as confirmed cases regardless of whether they experience any symptoms, as does South Korea.

Western countries such as the United States, Britain and Italy do not test people without symptoms, apart from clinicians who have been repeatedly exposed to the v***s.

Experts now believe that China and South Korea's strategy of testing everyone who has had contact with a patient, even if they themselves are not sick, is more efficient at curbing the spread of the v***s.

The USA and European countries are only testing airport arrivals if they show symptoms in contrast to Hong Kong who are testing all arrivals.

Other countries, such as the UAE, are routinely screening arrivals for high temperatures at airports.

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Mar 23, 2020 10:10:40   #
Lonewolf
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
And now this is coming out... Although I haven't confirmed it yet.. Just one source..

A Third of C****av***s Cases May be ‘Silent Carriers’
ChinaWire

The number of people infected with c****av***s who show no or delayed symptoms could be as high as one-third of those who test positive for the disease.

According to classified Chinese government data, the true scale and of the hidden number of these 'silent carriers' could be higher than first thought.

You should post this to the main board

This discovery has huge ramifications for the strategies being used by countries to contain the v***s.

Scientists are currently unable to agree on what role asymptomatic t***smission plays in spreading the disease and how infectious people with no symptoms are.

A growing number of scientists are now challenging the World Health Organisation's earlier statement that asymptomatic t***smission was 'extremely rare'.

A report by the WHO's international mission to China estimated that asymptomatic infections accounted for 1 to 3 per cent of cases.

In February, a group of Japanese experts led by Hiroshi Nishiura, an epidemiologist at Hokkaido University, wrote a letter to the International Journal of Infectious Diseases.

Nishiura said: 'The number of novel c****av***s (C****-**) cases worldwide continues to grow, and the gap between reports from China and statistical estimates of incidence based on cases diagnosed outside China indicates that a substantial number of cases are underdiagnosed.'

Nishiura put the proportion of asymptomatic Japanese patients evacuated from W***n at 30.8 per cent, a figure similar to the classified Chinese government data.

Nishiura added: 'The asymptomatic ratio … could be higher among children than in older adults. That would considerably change our scope of the outbreak, and even the optimal interventions can change.'

The WHO counts all people who test positive as confirmed cases regardless of whether they experience any symptoms, as does South Korea.

Western countries such as the United States, Britain and Italy do not test people without symptoms, apart from clinicians who have been repeatedly exposed to the v***s.

Experts now believe that China and South Korea's strategy of testing everyone who has had contact with a patient, even if they themselves are not sick, is more efficient at curbing the spread of the v***s.

The USA and European countries are only testing airport arrivals if they show symptoms in contrast to Hong Kong who are testing all arrivals.

Other countries, such as the UAE, are routinely screening arrivals for high temperatures at airports.
And now this is coming out... Although I haven't ... (show quote)


if this is true and I have no reason to doubt it were in big trouble here ,we don't do that we still don't have the test kits. We allow people back in without testing or quarantine.
I h**e to say this but I'm starting to wonder if my governmenthas mishandled this on purpose,

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Mar 23, 2020 10:38:34   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Lonewolf wrote:
if this is true and I have no reason to doubt it were in big trouble here ,we don't do that we still don't have the test kits. We allow people back in without testing or quarantine.
I h**e to say this but I'm starting to wonder if my governmenthas mishandled this on purpose,


I can't find anything to collaborate it...

And I want to know how a group like China Wire became aware of "classified government data" that the rest of us aren't aware of....

I recall WHOs announcement that there were some asymptomatic carriars...It's the reason we have been testing anyone who came into possible contact with anyone who might have the v***s...
I've filled out a dozen questionnaires from the government over the past two months... All trying to determine who had potential contact...

But this number is huge...

I'll keep looking...

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