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Mar 14, 2020 20:21:00   #
Fodaoson Loc: South Texas
 
What is person to do when the political party they have long identified with changes so there is now no agreement? There is also disagreement with the other party. When the so called “leadership” is leading to further disagreement there is no recourse but to go independent. There is always disagreement with an individual candidate in issue but when a party platform is in opposition to core beliefs, the differences and no longer be ignored. Because of the party stand on a******n, socialism, and other points of disagreement I can no longer identify as a democrat. Perhaps if the party would move more toward the center I could reconsider

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Mar 14, 2020 20:29:18   #
Liberty Tree
 
Fodaoson wrote:
What is person to do when the political party they have long identified with changes so there is now no agreement? There is also disagreement with the other party. When the so called “leadership” is leading to further disagreement there is no recourse but to go independent. There is always disagreement with an individual candidate in issue but when a party platform is in opposition to core beliefs, the differences and no longer be ignored. Because of the party stand on a******n, socialism, and other points of disagreement I can no longer identify as a democrat. Perhaps if the party would move more toward the center I could reconsider
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If anything it will move more to the left. Just look at it's new "stars."

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Mar 14, 2020 21:24:30   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
If anything it will move more to the left. Just look at it's new "stars."

Exactly what I was thinking. The future seems to be further left for the Democrats.

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Mar 14, 2020 21:30:49   #
Liberty Tree
 
JFlorio wrote:
Exactly what I was thinking. The future seems to be further left for the Democrats.


I moved from Republican to Unaffiliated several years ago because I got tired of the GOP caving in all the time.

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Mar 14, 2020 21:45:21   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Fodaoson wrote:
What is person to do when the political party they have long identified with changes so there is now no agreement? There is also disagreement with the other party. When the so called “leadership” is leading to further disagreement there is no recourse but to go independent. There is always disagreement with an individual candidate in issue but when a party platform is in opposition to core beliefs, the differences and no longer be ignored. Because of the party stand on a******n, socialism, and other points of disagreement I can no longer identify as a democrat. Perhaps if the party would move more toward the center I could reconsider
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I imagine it's the same on the right...

Y'all need a couple of new parties...

Liberal Party... center left..
Conservative Party... center right...

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Mar 14, 2020 22:16:36   #
Fodaoson Loc: South Texas
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
I imagine it's the same on the right...

Y'all need a couple of new parties...

Liberal Party... center left..
Conservative Party... center right...


WRITTEN BY: The Editors of Encyclopaedia Britannica
See Article History
Liberal Party, a minor U.S. political party in New York state, founded in May 1944 by leaders of the moderate wing of the American Labor Party in revolt against the alleged infiltration of that party by c*******ts. Although the party has usually favoured candidates of the Democratic Party (its 329,000 v**es helped carry New York state for President Franklin D. Roosevelt in its first e*******l try in 1944), it has on occasion supported liberal Republicans, such as John V. Lindsay for mayor of New York City (successfully in 1965 and 1969) and Jacob K. Javits for ree******n as U.S. senator (successfully in 1968 and 1974 and unsuccessfully in 1980). Although the Liberal Party has lacked a grand organization, it has managed at times to promote as many as 100 clubs, or chapters, in New York City, a committee-at-large, a trades-union council, a Spanish-speaking division, and a youth division.

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Mar 14, 2020 22:17:33   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Fodaoson wrote:
WRITTEN BY: The Editors of Encyclopaedia Britannica
See Article History
Liberal Party, a minor U.S. political party in New York state, founded in May 1944 by leaders of the moderate wing of the American Labor Party in revolt against the alleged infiltration of that party by c*******ts. Although the party has usually favoured candidates of the Democratic Party (its 329,000 v**es helped carry New York state for President Franklin D. Roosevelt in its first e*******l try in 1944), it has on occasion supported liberal Republicans, such as John V. Lindsay for mayor of New York City (successfully in 1965 and 1969) and Jacob K. Javits for ree******n as U.S. senator (successfully in 1968 and 1974 and unsuccessfully in 1980). Although the Liberal Party has lacked a grand organization, it has managed at times to promote as many as 100 clubs, or chapters, in New York City, a committee-at-large, a trades-union council, a Spanish-speaking division, and a youth division.
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There you go...

Now they need more support

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Mar 14, 2020 23:00:56   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
JFlorio wrote:
Exactly what I was thinking. The future seems to be further left for the Democrats.


I see the Democratic party moving into the crapper.

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Mar 14, 2020 23:02:24   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
I moved from Republican to Unaffiliated several years ago because I got tired of the GOP caving in all the time.


Exactly right. I had enough of the RINOs and the alt-right.

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Mar 15, 2020 10:08:37   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
Fodaoson wrote:
What is person to do when the political party they have long identified with changes so there is now no agreement? There is also disagreement with the other party. When the so called “leadership” is leading to further disagreement there is no recourse but to go independent. There is always disagreement with an individual candidate in issue but when a party platform is in opposition to core beliefs, the differences and no longer be ignored. Because of the party stand on a******n, socialism, and other points of disagreement I can no longer identify as a democrat. Perhaps if the party would move more toward the center I could reconsider
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Then become unaffiliated ( formerly know as Independent ). The majority of Americans are already unaffiliated, making them the deciders in e******ns. If those folks refuse to v**e for repubs and dems, those two parties will either reform or cease to exist.

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Mar 15, 2020 18:17:53   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Then become unaffiliated ( formerly know as Independent ). The majority of Americans are already unaffiliated, making them the deciders in e******ns. If those folks refuse to v**e for repubs and dems, those two parties will either reform or cease to exist.


The parties need us more than we need them. When a critical mass of people finally figure this out and quit giving money and other support to the parties, they will either change or disappear.

I have long ago written to both D and R parties that I would not give them one single cent until the ADHA was repealed (except for a couple of provisions that are actually good, such as the pre-existing condition).

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Mar 15, 2020 21:37:08   #
nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert
 
This time around a strong Independent candidate has a good chance of upsetting the status quo and winning the e******n. Who that person may be I don't have a clue . Maybe Trey Goudy?

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Mar 15, 2020 23:56:36   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
nonalien1 wrote:
This time around a strong Independent candidate has a good chance of upsetting the status quo and winning the e******n. Who that person may be I don't have a clue . Maybe Trey Goudy?


It would take a really special and charismatic person the do a third party and win the v**e. I can't think of anyone who can fit this bill. Not enough time to organize such an undertaking. Just about anyone would siphon off v**es from the Democrats. I don't see a Republican on the horizon who could go against the party at this time.

Besides Gowdy, who doesn't want to and doesn't have a chance, who do you have in mind?

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