Prestigious V*****E Journal: Flu V*****e Increases C****av***s Infection Risk 36%
ACP45 wrote:
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When I read "the science of natural healing", all sorts of red f**gs go up about the validity of this site.
American Vet wrote:
When I read "the science of natural healing", all sorts of red f**gs go up about the validity of this site.
Is this about the message or the messenger. I hope you took the time to read the actual study that was cited for yourself and not pre-judge the outcome based upon a name.
ACP45 wrote:
Is this about the message or the messenger. I hope you took the time to read the actual study that was cited for yourself and not pre-judge the outcome based upon a name.
I can produce studies for you that said smoking does not increase the risk for cancer......
American Vet wrote:
I can produce studies for you that said smoking does not increase the risk for cancer......
And your point is what? Don't believe anything your read, or use your god given ability to discern fact from fiction?
If you raised any of the following issues: Who commissioned the study, what conflicts of interest exist for those conducting the study, was the study peer reviewed, were the study results able to be duplicated by other researchers? All valid points to be considered. But that is not what you wrote. You dismissed the study because you read "the science of natural healing" and questioned the validity of the results based upon your predetermined bias that anything involving "natural healing" is snake oil or bogus information.
Do you not accept the fact that the body has the capacity to heal itself if treated properly and given the right tools?
ACP45
"And your point is what? Don't believe anything your read, or use your god given ability to discern fact from fiction?"
Studies can be designed to produce a desired outcome.
"If you raised any of the following issues: Who commissioned the study, what conflicts of interest exist for those conducting the study, was the study peer reviewed, were the study results able to be duplicated by other researchers? All valid points to be considered. But that is not what you wrote. You dismissed the study because you read "the science of natural healing" and questioned the validity of the results based upon your predetermined bias that anything involving "natural healing" is snake oil or bogus information."
And again, studies can be designed to produce a desired outcome. And most "natural healing" is snake oil and bogus. Not all, mind you - but most.
But feel free to post the links to studies with their peer review in noted medical journals; the research replicated by other researchers; and we can evaluate them.
"Do you not accept the fact that the body has the capacity to heal itself if treated properly and given the right tools?"
To a certain degree: Yes. Obviously many people recover from common illnesses and injuries. But not all the time. To make your blanket statement is also obviously incorrect.
American Vet wrote:
ACP45
"And your point is what? Don't believe anything your read, or use your god given ability to discern fact from fiction?"
Studies can be designed to produce a desired outcome.
"If you raised any of the following issues: Who commissioned the study, what conflicts of interest exist for those conducting the study, was the study peer reviewed, were the study results able to be duplicated by other researchers? All valid points to be considered. But that is not what you wrote. You dismissed the study because you read "the science of natural healing" and questioned the validity of the results based upon your predetermined bias that anything involving "natural healing" is snake oil or bogus information."
And again, studies can be designed to produce a desired outcome. And most "natural healing" is snake oil and bogus. Not all, mind you - but most.
But feel free to post the links to studies with their peer review in noted medical journals; the research replicated by other researchers; and we can evaluate them.
"Do you not accept the fact that the body has the capacity to heal itself if treated properly and given the right tools?"
To a certain degree: Yes. Obviously many people recover from common illnesses and injuries. But not all the time. To make your blanket statement is also obviously incorrect.
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Here is the pdf of the study (attachment), and here are the Disclaimers by the authors of the study:
Disclaimer
The views expressed in this article are those of the authors and do not necessarily represent the official policy or position of the Department of Defense, or the U.S. Government.
Declaration of Competing Interest
The authors declare that they have no known competing financial interests or personal relationships that could have appeared to influence the work reported in this paper.
ACP45 wrote:
Here is the pdf of the study (attachment), and here are the Disclaimers by the authors of the study:
Disclaimer
The views expressed in this article are those of the authors and do not necessarily represent the official policy or position of the Department of Defense, or the U.S. Government.
Declaration of Competing Interest
The authors declare that they have no known competing financial interests or personal relationships that could have appeared to influence the work reported in this paper.
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Sorry - I do not do any downloads. Got a link?
American Vet wrote:
Interesting study.
And?
Here is their conclusion:
A new study published in the prestigious journal V*****e, a peer-reviewed medical journal, published by Elsevier, titled Influenza v******tion and respiratory v***s interference among Department of Defense personnel during the 2017-2018 influenza season, reveals that influenza v******tion may increase the risk of infection from other respiratory v***ses -- a phenomenon known as v***s interference.
In other words, DOD personnel who received an influenza v******tion during the 2017-2018 season had a 36% higher odds ratio of C****av***s, and 51% higher odds ratio of Metapneumov***s than those who did not receive the influenza v*****e.
So, while an influenza v*****e was shown to offer protection against some flu strains (influenza A, B, H1N1), the study contradicts most conventional advice to get a flu shot to protect against the C****a V***s, or the Metapneumov***s which causes acute respiratory tract infections. So, pick your poison!
Human Metapneumov***s in Adults -
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3564111/The most common illness experienced by people of all ages worldwide is an acute respiratory tract infection (RTI). It is a leading cause of mortality and morbidity worldwide. V***ses are responsible for a large proportion of RTI’s [1]. A significant portion of the infections with v***l etiology can be attributed to the human metapneumov***s (HMPV), also in adults [2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9].
ACP45 wrote:
Here is their conclusion:
A new study published in the prestigious journal V*****e, a peer-reviewed medical journal, published by Elsevier, titled Influenza v******tion and respiratory v***s interference among Department of Defense personnel during the 2017-2018 influenza season, reveals that influenza v******tion may increase the risk of infection from other respiratory v***ses -- a phenomenon known as v***s interference.
In other words, DOD personnel who received an influenza v******tion during the 2017-2018 season had a 36% higher odds ratio of C****av***s, and 51% higher odds ratio of Metapneumov***s than those who did not receive the influenza v*****e.
So, while an influenza v*****e was shown to offer protection against some flu strains (influenza A, B, H1N1), the study contradicts most conventional advice to get a flu shot to protect against the C****a V***s, or the Metapneumov***s which causes acute respiratory tract infections. So, pick your poison!
Human Metapneumov***s in Adults -
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3564111/The most common illness experienced by people of all ages worldwide is an acute respiratory tract infection (RTI). It is a leading cause of mortality and morbidity worldwide. V***ses are responsible for a large proportion of RTI’s [1]. A significant portion of the infections with v***l etiology can be attributed to the human metapneumov***s (HMPV), also in adults [2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9].
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You contradict yourself: First you post an article bout 'homeopathic' medicine/treatment, then one from the NIH.
Again: the homeopathic stuff is fringe...
I take it you never really looked at the site content of Greenmedinfo.com did you?
I don't know where you got the idea that they deal in homeopathic medicine. The do rely on real food, herbs, and non-pharmecutical solutions to health problems. So if you want to believe that is fringe stuff, that is your choice.
ACP45 wrote:
I take it you never really looked at the site content of Greenmedinfo.com did you?
I don't know where you got the idea that they deal in homeopathic medicine. The do rely on real food, herbs, and non-pharmecutical solutions to health problems. So if you want to believe that is fringe stuff, that is your choice.
I did look at the content. Most if herbal/vitamin/nutrient directed "cure" - aka fringe stuff.
Relying on "real food, herbs, and non-pharmecutical solutions to health problems" is, in fact, homeopathic medicine. What the heck do you think "homeopathic" means???
American Vet wrote:
I did look at the content. Most if herbal/vitamin/nutrient directed "cure" - aka fringe stuff.
Relying on "real food, herbs, and non-pharmecutical solutions to health problems" is, in fact, homeopathic medicine. What the heck do you think "homeopathic" means???
What you are in essence saying is that illness, disease, and degenerative conditions is from a lack of pharmaceutical based drugs, and man-made interventions such as v*****es.
I believe that the body is best able to heal itself given proper detoxification, rest, proper nutrition, reduction of stress, and the avoidance of harmful insecticides, pesticides, EMF, etc.
Different strokes for different folks!
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