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What do "Joe Biden" and "Asset Forfeiture" have in common?
Mar 11, 2020 07:14:30   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
Asset forfeiture
"Asset forfeiture or asset seizure is a form of confiscation of assets by the state. In the United States, it is a type of criminal justice financial obligation. It typically applies to the alleged proceeds or instruments of crime." Wikipedia

The Comprehensive Forfeiture Act was a new bill introduced by Joe Biden in 1983, and it's provisions became law the following year. "Under this law federal agents had nearly unlimited powers to seize assets from private citizens. Now the government only needed to find a way to let local and state police join the party....

In addition to a slew of new powers for prosecutors, the burden of proof for asset seizure was lowered once again (agents had to only believe that what they were seizing was equal in value to money believed to have been purchased from drug sales). More significantly, the bill started the “equitable sharing” program that allowed local and state law enforcement to retain up to 80 percent of the spoils."

Gee, what could possibly go wrong with this scenerio? In the fight against the egregious violation of property rights that is asset forfeiture, Americans must not forget who those who promulgated these laws and birthed a new paradigm of government aggression against private persons that is proving difficult to overturn.



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Mar 11, 2020 07:35:12   #
Kevyn
 
ACP45 wrote:
Asset forfeiture
"Asset forfeiture or asset seizure is a form of confiscation of assets by the state. In the United States, it is a type of criminal justice financial obligation. It typically applies to the alleged proceeds or instruments of crime." Wikipedia

The Comprehensive Forfeiture Act was a new bill introduced by Joe Biden in 1983, and it's provisions became law the following year. "Under this law federal agents had nearly unlimited powers to seize assets from private citizens. Now the government only needed to find a way to let local and state police join the party....

In addition to a slew of new powers for prosecutors, the burden of proof for asset seizure was lowered once again (agents had to only believe that what they were seizing was equal in value to money believed to have been purchased from drug sales). More significantly, the bill started the “equitable sharing” program that allowed local and state law enforcement to retain up to 80 percent of the spoils."

Gee, what could possibly go wrong with this scenerio? In the fight against the egregious violation of property rights that is asset forfeiture, Americans must not forget who those who promulgated these laws and birthed a new paradigm of government aggression against private persons that is proving difficult to overturn.
Asset forfeiture br "Asset forfeiture or asse... (show quote)

This is a good thing, when Biden is in the White House early next year the AG in New York can use asset forfeiture to seize the ill gotten property the Trump crime family has acquired over the years. They can also use racketeering laws to bring them to justice.

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Mar 11, 2020 07:42:04   #
Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas
 
Kevyn wrote:
This is a good thing, when Biden is in the White House early next year the AG in New York can use asset forfeiture to seize the ill gotten property the Trump crime family has acquired over the years. They can also use racketeering laws to bring them to justice.



Hahahahah.....still betting on those losing horses I appreciate you running that dementia patient, being one yourself you probably don't even see that mental decline, your ilk are mental and should be able to see that, instead you lap up his insanity like a spilled milkshake in a sonic parking lot on a hot day

Carry on, please.

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Mar 11, 2020 08:22:11   #
Divine truth
 
Kevyn wrote:
This is a good thing, when Biden is in the White House early next year the AG in New York can use asset forfeiture to seize the ill gotten property the Trump crime family has acquired over the years. They can also use racketeering laws to bring them to justice.


This law is applicable to all criminal Enterprises, and that includes the Black Churches.

Drug dealers, and prostitutes rings, and homosexuals call boys, and Michael R Bloormberg illegal gotten wealth.

In addition to the 911 perpetrators, Isrealis, and judicial branches, which is a criminal racketeering operation.

Z*****m falls within this law, and everyone that benefited off of the 9/11 attacks false narrative, against Islam.

Additionally, Joe Biden isn't going to be in the White House, and I will bet my life on this.

For the record and to be read into the OPP record, respectfully.

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Mar 11, 2020 09:17:01   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
ACP45 wrote:
Asset forfeiture
"Asset forfeiture or asset seizure is a form of confiscation of assets by the state. In the United States, it is a type of criminal justice financial obligation. It typically applies to the alleged proceeds or instruments of crime." Wikipedia

The Comprehensive Forfeiture Act was a new bill introduced by Joe Biden in 1983, and it's provisions became law the following year. "Under this law federal agents had nearly unlimited powers to seize assets from private citizens. Now the government only needed to find a way to let local and state police join the party....

In addition to a slew of new powers for prosecutors, the burden of proof for asset seizure was lowered once again (agents had to only believe that what they were seizing was equal in value to money believed to have been purchased from drug sales). More significantly, the bill started the “equitable sharing” program that allowed local and state law enforcement to retain up to 80 percent of the spoils."

Gee, what could possibly go wrong with this scenerio? In the fight against the egregious violation of property rights that is asset forfeiture, Americans must not forget who those who promulgated these laws and birthed a new paradigm of government aggression against private persons that is proving difficult to overturn.
Asset forfeiture br "Asset forfeiture or asse... (show quote)


Did Biden alone v**e to pass this bill? Seems to me that it was Reagan that signed it into law. Yeah, I know, it's more convenient to forget all those pesky little details.

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Mar 11, 2020 09:30:56   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Kevyn wrote:
This is a good thing, when Biden is in the White House early next year the AG in New York can use asset forfeiture to seize the ill gotten property the Trump crime family has acquired over the years. They can also use racketeering laws to bring them to justice.


Nope not even close toots~~I’ll let you figure it out...

On June 5, 2017, the Supreme Court of the United States ruled unanimously in Honeycutt v. United States, No. 16-142, 581 U.S. __ (2017) that the federal criminal asset forfeiture statutes are “limited to property the defendant himself actually acquired as the result of the crime.” In doing so, the Court rejected the interpretation of 10 courts of appeals that previously allowed joint and several liability for forfeiture among members of a criminal conspiracy. Ruling instead that forfeiture is permitted only when the individual conspirator “acquired” or “personally benefit[ed]” from the forfeitable property, the Court significantly curtailed a powerful tool used by prosecutors in myriad contexts, including white-collar offenses.

Future litigation is likely to ensue, however, because the Court did not define key terms and because few future cases will involve facts as clear and uncontested as the Honeycutt case. Briefly, Terry Honeycutt managed a Tennessee hardware store owned by his brother, Tony Honeycutt. Over the course of three years, the store sold significant quantities of “Polar Pure” water purifier at a profit of $269,000. According to the opinion, “most people have no legitimate use for the product in large quantities,” and the Honeycutt brothers were informed by police that Polar Pure could be used to manufacture methamphetamine. Police advised the Honeycutt brothers to stop selling the product; they refused, and were later indicted on federal drug-distribution charges. Tony Honeycutt pled guilty and agreed to a forfeiture judgment of $200,000, while Terry Honeycutt went to trial. Terry was convicted, and the government sought a forfeiture judgment against him for the remaining $69,000, reasoning that co-conspirators were “jointly liable” for forfeitable criminal proceeds in the same way that co-conspirators can be convicted for the foreseeable criminal acts committed by other co-conspirators under Pinkerton v. United States, 328 U.S. 640 (1946). The district court agreed with Terry because he “was a salaried employee who had not personally received any profits from the sales,” and the Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit reversed based on prior precedent.<snip> plenty more to read..

https://www.americanbar.org/groups/litigation/committees/criminal/practice/2017/honeycutt-v-united-states-scotus-rejects-joint-and-several-forfeiture-liability/

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Mar 11, 2020 09:36:05   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Kevyn wrote:
This is a good thing, when Biden is in the White House early next year the AG in New York can use asset forfeiture to seize the ill gotten property the Trump crime family has acquired over the years. They can also use racketeering laws to bring them to justice.


So I guess we could recover what H****r B***n stole via bribe money from Ukraine and give it back, right?

Excellent!!

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Mar 11, 2020 11:02:45   #
Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, CO
 
lindajoy wrote:
Nope not even close toots~~I’ll let you figure it out...

On June 5, 2017, the Supreme Court of the United States ruled unanimously in Honeycutt v. United States, No. 16-142, 581 U.S. __ (2017) that the federal criminal asset forfeiture statutes are “limited to property the defendant himself actually acquired as the result of the crime.” In doing so, the Court rejected the interpretation of 10 courts of appeals that previously allowed joint and several liability for forfeiture among members of a criminal conspiracy. Ruling instead that forfeiture is permitted only when the individual conspirator “acquired” or “personally benefit[ed]” from the forfeitable property, the Court significantly curtailed a powerful tool used by prosecutors in myriad contexts, including white-collar offenses.

Future litigation is likely to ensue, however, because the Court did not define key terms and because few future cases will involve facts as clear and uncontested as the Honeycutt case. Briefly, Terry Honeycutt managed a Tennessee hardware store owned by his brother, Tony Honeycutt. Over the course of three years, the store sold significant quantities of “Polar Pure” water purifier at a profit of $269,000. According to the opinion, “most people have no legitimate use for the product in large quantities,” and the Honeycutt brothers were informed by police that Polar Pure could be used to manufacture methamphetamine. Police advised the Honeycutt brothers to stop selling the product; they refused, and were later indicted on federal drug-distribution charges. Tony Honeycutt pled guilty and agreed to a forfeiture judgment of $200,000, while Terry Honeycutt went to trial. Terry was convicted, and the government sought a forfeiture judgment against him for the remaining $69,000, reasoning that co-conspirators were “jointly liable” for forfeitable criminal proceeds in the same way that co-conspirators can be convicted for the foreseeable criminal acts committed by other co-conspirators under Pinkerton v. United States, 328 U.S. 640 (1946). The district court agreed with Terry because he “was a salaried employee who had not personally received any profits from the sales,” and the Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit reversed based on prior precedent.<snip> plenty more to read..

https://www.americanbar.org/groups/litigation/committees/criminal/practice/2017/honeycutt-v-united-states-scotus-rejects-joint-and-several-forfeiture-liability/
Nope not even close toots~~I’ll let you figure it... (show quote)


"toots", priceless Linda~

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Mar 11, 2020 11:25:41   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Jakebrake wrote:
"toots", priceless Linda~


Good day to you, do hope it is an enjoyable day.. We have a bit of snow coming but today is high of 60 with the sun shining bright..😁

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Mar 12, 2020 06:07:11   #
Tug484
 
Weewillynobeerspilly wrote:
Hahahahah.....still betting on those losing horses I appreciate you running that dementia patient, being one yourself you probably don't even see that mental decline, your ilk are mental and should be able to see that, instead you lap up his insanity like a spilled milkshake in a sonic parking lot on a hot day

Carry on, please.



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Mar 12, 2020 14:35:01   #
roy
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
So I guess we could recover what H****r B***n stole via bribe money from Ukraine and give it back, right?

Excellent!!


If you can prove he stole money from Ukraine ,then you can gladly go after it .

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Mar 12, 2020 14:54:57   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
roy wrote:
If you can prove he stole money from Ukraine ,then you can gladly go after it .


It's in the works as we speak.

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