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Mar 15, 2020 13:25:41   #
manning5 Loc: Richmond, VA
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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I'd like to focus my attention on number 10. I believe in the "Holy Trinity." The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. I pray the Nicene Greed every Sunday, and the Apostles' Creed daily. But I ponder a lot of times, about these lines in the Nicene Creed; John 1:1-2; John 14:1-2; and John 14:8.
My thought is this. That God the Father, Jesus , and the Holy Spirit is One.

The Nicene Creed, 2nd paragraph.
"I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ,
the Only Begotten Son of God,
born of the Father before all ages.
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God, begotten, not made, consubstantial with the Father;"


Another relevant reason why Jesus is also God the Father.
John 1:1-2
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning.

Then in John 14:1-2
[1] "Let not your hearts be troubled; believe in God, believe also in me.
[2] In my Father's house are many rooms; if it were not so, would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you.

On John 14-8, Philip said Lord, show us the father, and it will be enough for us.
9 Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’. 10 Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work.

So, my though is Jesus and the Father are one, but confuses me. All I do is trust and the Nicene Creed summarizes them all.

Perhaps you have your ways interpreting those verses. What do you think?
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God the Father. Jesus the Son, and the Holy Spirit (Ghost) make up a Trinity. God has total power, Jesus was created by God to serve a specific purpose and has power sufficient to that purpose given to Him by God. Whether that is the total power of God is not clear to me, perhaps it is, and perhaps it isn't. Jesus may well be all powerful now, while before His death He may not have been. But there is still the Trinity, and Jesus is our savior, and He sits on the right hand of God.

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Mar 15, 2020 13:38:52   #
Radiance3
 
manning5 wrote:
God the Father. Jesus the Son, and the Holy Spirit (Ghost) make up a Trinity. God has total power, Jesus was created by God to serve a specific purpose and has power sufficient to that purpose given to Him by God. Whether that is the total power of God is not clear to me, perhaps it is, and perhaps it isn't. Jesus may well be all powerful now, while before His death He may not have been. But there is still the Trinity, and Jesus is our savior, and He sits on the right hand of God.

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Thank you Manning. Yours sounds like what I think too. Please stay safe, and strong at this critical time of our lives. We pray always for God's protection on all of us.

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Mar 15, 2020 14:57:13   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Thank you Manning. Yours sounds like what I think too. Please stay safe, and strong at this critical time of our lives. We pray always for God's protection on all of us.


I was thinking of this question the other day. If a man and woman can become one flesh thru marriage and have children and still be one unit, can't God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit do the same? Maybe that's where the idea came from?

God told men to the head of their homes and to love their wives and wives to submit to their husbands and children to obey their parents. It sounds a lot like the trinity when you add a child.

Scripture says children are a gift from God and Jesus promised a comforter when He departed, a gift. God loves Jesus and Jesus always submits himself to the Father and the Holy Spirit is the gift.

You can get angry with God and Jesus, you can even argue with them. But dire consequences are promised for cursing the Holy Spirit. It looks like a pattern first created in Heaven to me.

You should never sacrifice your children to a false god or belief system. Abortion seems like paganism to me. You are literally destroying God's precious, personable, gifts to you. A fancy home, Lamborgini, or your name in lights, will never replace your own child or children. No matter how long you live, I don't know how you can ever forget ending your child's life even if you become a Christian after the fact. Every time you try to obey and follow God or Jesus, Satan will remind you of it. He's called the accuser, for a reason.

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Mar 15, 2020 15:00:34   #
bahmer
 
Peewee wrote:
I was thinking of this question the other day. If a man and woman can become one flesh thru marriage and have children and still be one unit, can't God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit do the same? Maybe that's where the idea came from?

God told men to the head of their homes and to love their wives and wives to submit to their husbands and children to obey their parents. It sounds a lot like the trinity when you add a child.

Scripture says children are a gift from God and Jesus promised a comforter when He departed, a gift. God loves Jesus and Jesus always submits himself to the Father and the Holy Spirit is the gift.

You can get angry with God and Jesus, you can even argue with them. But dire consequences are promised for cursing the Holy Spirit. It looks like a pattern first created in Heaven to me.

You should never sacrifice your children to a false god or belief system. Abortion seems like paganism to me. You are literally destroying God's precious, personable, gifts to you. A fancy home, Lamborgini, or your name in lights, will never replace your own child or children. No matter how long you live, I don't know how you can ever forget ending your child's life even if you become a Christian after the fact. Every time you try to obey and follow God or Jesus, Satan will remind you of it. He's called the accuser, for a reason.
I was thinking of this question the other day. If ... (show quote)


Amen and Amen very good there Peewee and well thought out as well.👍👍👍👍👍🥇🥇🥇🥇🥇

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Mar 15, 2020 18:39:17   #
Radiance3
 
Peewee wrote:
I was thinking of this question the other day. If a man and woman can become one flesh thru marriage and have children and still be one unit, can't God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit do the same? Maybe that's where the idea came from?

God told men to the head of their homes and to love their wives and wives to submit to their husbands and children to obey their parents. It sounds a lot like the trinity when you add a child.

Scripture says children are a gift from God and Jesus promised a comforter when He departed, a gift. God loves Jesus and Jesus always submits himself to the Father and the Holy Spirit is the gift.

You can get angry with God and Jesus, you can even argue with them. But dire consequences are promised for cursing the Holy Spirit. It looks like a pattern first created in Heaven to me.

You should never sacrifice your children to a false god or belief system. Abortion seems like paganism to me. You are literally destroying God's precious, personable, gifts to you. A fancy home, Lamborgini, or your name in lights, will never replace your own child or children. No matter how long you live, I don't know how you can ever forget ending your child's life even if you become a Christian after the fact. Every time you try to obey and follow God or Jesus, Satan will remind you of it. He's called the accuser, for a reason.
I was thinking of this question the other day. If ... (show quote)

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The Holy Spirit is One with the Father, and the Son.
Our body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, and God created man and woman. Remember when Jesus came back to the Apostles, and breath unto them, saying, "Receive the Holy Spirit." John 20:22.

Pewee, you have the beautiful perspective or viewpoint. Because God created man from the image of God. Genesis 1:26-28.

And God created woman from the rib of a man. Genesis 2:18-24
18 Then the LORD God said, "It is not good for a man to be alone, so I will make him a helper.
21 So the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and while he slept took one of his ribs and closed up its place with flesh.
22 and the rib which the LORD God had taken from the man he made into a woman and brought her to the man.
23 Then the man said, "This at last is bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man."

24 Therefore a man leaves his father and his mother and cleaves to his wife, and they become one flesh..

Ephesians 5:22
Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. Let women be subject to their husbands, as to the Lord, drawing the inference of the duty of free obedience in the wife, and of self-sacrificing love in the husband.

Ephesians 5:25
25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

The children are the gift from God. The fruit of the union of the husband and wife, God gave the children as their gift.
That is why abortion is an abomination to God.
God created the baby, but woman aborted what God had created. Democrat women said, it is their body, so they could do whatever they want with their body.

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Mar 23, 2020 23:59:27   #
manning5 Loc: Richmond, VA
 
Peewee wrote:
I was thinking of this question the other day. If a man and woman can become one flesh thru marriage and have children and still be one unit, can't God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit do the same? Maybe that's where the idea came from?

God told men to the head of their homes and to love their wives and wives to submit to their husbands and children to obey their parents. It sounds a lot like the trinity when you add a child.



Scripture says children are a gift from God and Jesus promised a comforter when He departed, a gift. God loves Jesus and Jesus always submits himself to the Father and the Holy Spirit is the gift.

You can get angry with God and Jesus, you can even argue with them. But dire consequences are promised for cursing the Holy Spirit. It looks like a pattern first created in Heaven to me.

You should never sacrifice your children to a false god or belief system. Abortion seems like paganism to me. You are literally destroying God's precious, personable, gifts to you. A fancy home, Lamborgini, or your name in lights, will never replace your own child or children. No matter how long you live, I don't know how you can ever forget ending your child's life even if you become a Christian after the fact. Every time you try to obey and follow God or Jesus, Satan will remind you of it. He's called the accuser, for a reason.
I was thinking of this question the other day. If ... (show quote)



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