Thoughts - Immigration vs Nationalism
Mar 9, 2020 06:21:42 #
China’s Proposed Immigration Changes Spark Xenophobic Backlash
ChinaWire
While China is struggling with the c****av***s p******c, the country’s Ministry of Justice has sparked another controversy over some proposed changes in China’s immigration policy. The policy proposed by Chinese officials has been slammed by Chinese internet users on WeChat and Weibo since the ministry began seeking public consultations through departmental websites and social media in late February.
According to the proposed clauses listed by the Chinese Ministry Of Justice, the new legislation aims to attract high-income foreign nationals to permanently live in China. In order to qualify, applicants need to have made major contributions to China’s science, technologies, sports, or cultural sectors. Experts in specific subjects may also qualify for permanent residence status in China. Foreign nationals whose incomes are six times higher than local residents can also apply after working in China for four consecutive years, or eight consecutive years if their incomes are less than six times but more than three times the average income of local residents.
The latest proposed changes to China’s immigration system are designed to attract a limited number of experts, specialists, and high-income individuals who can contribute significantly to China. Yet Chinese internet users are not showing any signs of support. There were more than 70,000 comments under the original Ministry of Justice Weibo post, which later got censored because of the backlash. The ministry closed down comments on the post announcing the legislative proposal for granting permanent resident status to foreign nationals. According to reports from the Beijing News, the topic generated billions of reads on the Chinese social media platform Weibo.
Following the online anger, China Daily issued an op-ed about the importance of attracting foreign talents to develop the country’s economy and technology. CGTN, another English-language state media outlet, also published an op-ed calling for “a more open and inclusive society.” However, the overwhelming voices of dissent are dominating the spotlight.
Immigration has always been a challenging issue in Chinese society. The majority of people in Chinese society believe that foreign nationals have been granted privileges and special status that they do not deserve. Some critics point out the unequal treatment between local Chinese and foreign nationals, accusing the Chinese government of opening up immigration while still having population planning policies to restrict the number of children Chinese nationals can have.
ChinaWire
While China is struggling with the c****av***s p******c, the country’s Ministry of Justice has sparked another controversy over some proposed changes in China’s immigration policy. The policy proposed by Chinese officials has been slammed by Chinese internet users on WeChat and Weibo since the ministry began seeking public consultations through departmental websites and social media in late February.
According to the proposed clauses listed by the Chinese Ministry Of Justice, the new legislation aims to attract high-income foreign nationals to permanently live in China. In order to qualify, applicants need to have made major contributions to China’s science, technologies, sports, or cultural sectors. Experts in specific subjects may also qualify for permanent residence status in China. Foreign nationals whose incomes are six times higher than local residents can also apply after working in China for four consecutive years, or eight consecutive years if their incomes are less than six times but more than three times the average income of local residents.
The latest proposed changes to China’s immigration system are designed to attract a limited number of experts, specialists, and high-income individuals who can contribute significantly to China. Yet Chinese internet users are not showing any signs of support. There were more than 70,000 comments under the original Ministry of Justice Weibo post, which later got censored because of the backlash. The ministry closed down comments on the post announcing the legislative proposal for granting permanent resident status to foreign nationals. According to reports from the Beijing News, the topic generated billions of reads on the Chinese social media platform Weibo.
Following the online anger, China Daily issued an op-ed about the importance of attracting foreign talents to develop the country’s economy and technology. CGTN, another English-language state media outlet, also published an op-ed calling for “a more open and inclusive society.” However, the overwhelming voices of dissent are dominating the spotlight.
Immigration has always been a challenging issue in Chinese society. The majority of people in Chinese society believe that foreign nationals have been granted privileges and special status that they do not deserve. Some critics point out the unequal treatment between local Chinese and foreign nationals, accusing the Chinese government of opening up immigration while still having population planning policies to restrict the number of children Chinese nationals can have.
Mar 9, 2020 08:13:37 #
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
China’s Proposed Immigration Changes Spark Xenopho... (show quote)
Remnants of developing a more wealthy society of foreigners (elitism) so they may invest in China as well... Like their draw to bring in businesses from other countries. Serves their purpose.
What are the restrictions on the number of children allowed now?
Mar 9, 2020 09:54:01 #
lindajoy wrote:
Remnants of developing a more wealthy society of foreigners (elitism) so they may invest in China as well... Like their draw to bring in businesses from other countries. Serves their purpose.
What are the restrictions on the number of children allowed now?
What are the restrictions on the number of children allowed now?
In 2015 they changed it...If both parents are from single child families they may have two children... But then they changed it again to everyone...
Of course there are still plenty of folk who? opt to just have one... And sone who want three or more and don't care about the deterrents...
Mar 9, 2020 10:51:43 #
JFlorio
Loc: Seminole Florida
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
China’s Proposed Immigration Changes Spark Xenopho... (show quote)
Makes more sense than our immigration policies.
Mar 9, 2020 20:22:37 #
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
In 2015 they changed it...If both parents are from single child families they may have two children... But then they changed it again to everyone...
Of course there are still plenty of folk who? opt to just have one... And sone who want three or more and don't care about the deterrents...
Of course there are still plenty of folk who? opt to just have one... And sone who want three or more and don't care about the deterrents...
Thank You for Explaining it for me..💫✨
Mar 9, 2020 20:28:30 #
JFlorio wrote:
Makes more sense than our immigration policies.
I still think Japan has a fantastic way of handling they’re allowed immigrants entry.
https://qz.com/1127891/moving-to-japan-do-you-have-the-points-to-qualify-as-a-resident/
Mar 9, 2020 20:32:56 #
nwtk2007
Loc: Texas
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
China’s Proposed Immigration Changes Spark Xenopho... (show quote)
Seems like a conflict to me. I'm surprised they allow immigration at all, but it IS a big country.
A lot of problems arise from population growth world wide.
Mar 11, 2020 03:20:05 #
nwtk2007 wrote:
Seems like a conflict to me. I'm surprised they allow immigration at all, but it IS a big country.
A lot of problems arise from population growth world wide.
A lot of problems arise from population growth world wide.
Especially the immigration from North Korea, a well documented problem that needed to be dealt with.
Canuckus, a Chinese asset, will not give you details or rationales, just the rubbish published in China officially.
Mar 11, 2020 03:49:02 #
newbear wrote:
Especially the immigration from North Korea, a well documented problem that needed to be dealt with.
Canuckus, a Chinese asset, will not give you details or rationales, just the rubbish published in China officially.
Canuckus, a Chinese asset, will not give you details or rationales, just the rubbish published in China officially.
There is no immigration from North Korea... Only people illegally crossing the border... And it's not a huge problem... If caught they are deported back..
There is a problem with human trafficking over the North Korean border... Especially women... That's more difficult to address because the corruption involved...
Chinawire is a media outlet set up by expats in Hong Kong... It's not a government sanctioned entity...
Mar 11, 2020 05:06:39 #
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
There is no immigration from North Korea... Only people illegally crossing the border... And it's not a huge problem... If caught they are deported back..
There is a problem with human trafficking over the North Korean border... Especially women... That's more difficult to address because the corruption involved...
Chinawire is a media outlet set up by expats in Hong Kong... It's not a government sanctioned entity...
There is a problem with human trafficking over the North Korean border... Especially women... That's more difficult to address because the corruption involved...
Chinawire is a media outlet set up by expats in Hong Kong... It's not a government sanctioned entity...
Really, you believe all these things, especially the "China Wire" rubbish? Please go to Shanghai to play your saxophone in a jazz band, and you will learn more about China in two weeks then in a year reading that stuff in "China Wire". Have a good day.
Mar 11, 2020 05:09:17 #
newbear wrote:
Really, you believe all these things, especially the "China Wire" rubbish? Please go to Shanghai to play your saxophone in a jazz band, and you will learn more about China in two weeks then in a year reading that stuff in "China Wire". Have a good day.
Chuckle... I have lived in China for the past sixteen years...
Chinawire is run by expats.. It's not meant to be a credible source for news..
Did you have a bad experience over here? Lots of expats do... Especially those without the proper documents to work legally... Sad...
Mar 11, 2020 05:31:11 #
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Chuckle... I have lived in China for the past sixteen years...
Chinawire is run by expats.. It's not meant to be a credible source for news..
Did you have a bad experience over here? Lots of expats do... Especially those without the proper documents to work legally... Sad...
Chinawire is run by expats.. It's not meant to be a credible source for news..
Did you have a bad experience over here? Lots of expats do... Especially those without the proper documents to work legally... Sad...
Why you wasted sixteen years of your life in China is the question. Did you like it?
But that is beside the point. You don't live there now, so clean up, get back to be a Canuck, is this to hard?
Mar 11, 2020 05:41:44 #
newbear wrote:
Why you wasted sixteen years of your life in China is the question. Did you like it?
But that is beside the point. You don't live there now, so clean up, get back to be a Canuck, is this to hard?
But that is beside the point. You don't live there now, so clean up, get back to be a Canuck, is this to hard?
You struggle with the perfect tense... That's common to non-native speakers...
And your grammar is atrocious...
Mar 11, 2020 23:43:33 #
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
You struggle with the perfect tense... That's common to non-native speakers...
And your grammar is atrocious...
And your grammar is atrocious...
It's late at night here and my first language is pidgin English, so yes, I am perfectly tense conversing with a Mandarin like yourself.
Grammar-wise I try to emulate the standard set by many on here but please don't take it personally.
Mar 12, 2020 00:07:23 #
newbear wrote:
It's late at night here and my first language is pidgin English, so yes, I am perfectly tense conversing with a Mandarin like yourself.
Grammar-wise I try to emulate the standard set by many on here but please don't take it personally.
Grammar-wise I try to emulate the standard set by many on here but please don't take it personally.
Manchurian...
Mandarin is a language... Spoken by the Han Chinese... The term I English... A butchering of 满大人 Man Daren... Which was the term used to address the Manchurians who controlled China during the Qing Dynasty...
There are no Mandarin people.. But it's a common mistake...
You might want to emulate the more educated posters... But that is a personal opinion...
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