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Mar 16, 2020 00:25:44   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
manning5 wrote:
Of course other religions can have a different set of sin definitions. For me, the important thing is what my God defines as sin, and the exposition of His thinking about sin is covered in the Bible (KJV). Other definitions of sin are largely, but not completely, irrelevant in a Christian society.


Perhaps....

The core sins remain fairly constant from religion to religion...

Which would indicate an underlying order or source... A universal constant...

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Mar 16, 2020 00:31:13   #
manning5 Loc: Richmond, VA
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Perhaps....

The core sins remain fairly constant from religion to religion...

Which would indicate an underlying order or source... A universal constant...


Yes, that is true. Have you researched the subject of Universals? Several people have, and it is fascinating to read.

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Mar 16, 2020 00:36:00   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
manning5 wrote:
Yes, that is true. Have you researched the subject of Universals? Several people have, and it is fascinating to read.


Yes... And most recently I have taken a look at the universal Unitarian movement...

Interesting...

If God is a constant in this universe than it follows that He should have been perceived by various cultures throughout history...

The idea that He chose to reveal Himself in a single way at very specific times in very localized places makes little sense...

I have always maintained that mankind's quest for Him has always brought about knowledge of Him...

So many paths... All leading to one destination... Glorious. .

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Mar 16, 2020 00:42:50   #
manning5 Loc: Richmond, VA
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Yes... And most recently I have taken a look at the universal Unitarian movement...

Interesting...

If God is a constant in this universe than it follows that He should have been perceived by various cultures throughout history...

The idea that He chose to reveal Himself in a single way at very specific times in very localized places makes little sense...

I have always maintained that mankind's quest for Him has always brought about knowledge of Him...

So many paths... All leading to one destination... Glorious. .
Yes... And most recently I have taken a look at t... (show quote)


I cannot remember immediately which of my books has an appendix listing some hundreds of Universals, but I will find it in the morning. Time for bed here. God Bless!

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Mar 16, 2020 17:43:51   #
manning5 Loc: Richmond, VA
 
manning5 wrote:
I cannot remember immediately which of my books has an appendix listing some hundreds of Universals, but I will find it in the morning. Time for bed here. God Bless!


My reference is Michael Shermer's book "The Science of Good And Evil." He lists only Moral and religious universals.

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Mar 16, 2020 18:22:33   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
manning5 wrote:
My reference is Michael Shermer's book "The Science of Good And Evil." He lists only Moral and religious universals.


Appreciate that effort.. Thanks

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Mar 21, 2020 14:46:01   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Kevyn wrote:
There is not a commandment against homosexuality but their is one against adultery, getting pissed on by russian hookers is sort of a grey area biblically speaking.


No, there isn't but then, the concept of homosexual (that is a biological condition that you were born with and cannot be changed, is a new concept. Before the homosexual activists pretended to recreate the human biology, it was called sodomy, and the Bible says that a man lying with a man as he would lie with a woman is a BIG sin. But then, the Bible does not specifically condemn men having sex with dogs, goats or sheep, but there are men who claim those behaviors are also good, because they want to do that behavior.

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Mar 21, 2020 20:38:03   #
Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia
 
no propaganda please wrote:
No, there isn't but then, the concept of homosexual (that is a biological condition that you were born with and cannot be changed, is a new concept. Before the homosexual activists pretended to recreate the human biology, it was called sodomy, and the Bible says that a man lying with a man as he would lie with a woman is a BIG sin. But then, the Bible does not specifically condemn men having sex with dogs, goats or sheep, but there are men who claim those behaviors are also good, because they want to do that behavior.
No, there isn't but then, the concept of homosexua... (show quote)

Here is what the Bible says about homosexuality.
Leviticus 18:22, 20:13,
1 Kings 14:24, 15:12,
2 Kings 23:7
Genesis 19:4-8
Judges 19:16-24
Romans 1:21-27
1 Corinthians 6:9-10
1 Timothy 1:9-11
This makes it clear how God feels about homosexuality.

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Mar 22, 2020 00:14:24   #
manning5 Loc: Richmond, VA
 
no propaganda please wrote:
No, there isn't but then, the concept of homosexual (that is a biological condition that you were born with and cannot be changed, is a new concept. Before the homosexual activists pretended to recreate the human biology, it was called sodomy, and the Bible says that a man lying with a man as he would lie with a woman is a BIG sin. But then, the Bible does not specifically condemn men having sex with dogs, goats or sheep, but there are men who claim those behaviors are also good, because they want to do that behavior.
No, there isn't but then, the concept of homosexua... (show quote)


Speaking of useful fictions, the concept of homosexuality being an inborn trait, is just that.

Every cell in the male body is of male composition, and every cell in a female body is of female composition right down to the RNA and DNA. The cells cannot be changed.

One conjecture is that the trait of homosexuality is a mental state, not a physical state, and it can possibly be inherited. Can the mental state be changed?

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Mar 22, 2020 00:21:14   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
manning5 wrote:
Speaking of useful fictions, the concept of homosexuality being an inborn trait, is just that.

Every cell in the male body is of male composition, and every cell in a female body is of female composition right down to the RNA and DNA. The cells cannot be changed.

One conjecture is that the trait of homosexuality is a mental state, not a physical state, and it can possibly be inherited. Can the mental state be changed?


Can the mental state be inherited

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Mar 22, 2020 00:49:19   #
manning5 Loc: Richmond, VA
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Can the mental state be inherited


Based on my own observations it seems quite likely. I have known several families that exhibited "inheritance" of the trait passed down to some of the children over three or more generations, with multiple children, male and female, having the trait. Whether this was nature or nurture working I do not know, but there were obviously bisexual traits there.

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Mar 22, 2020 01:02:55   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
manning5 wrote:
Based on my own observations it seems quite likely. I have known several families that exhibited "inheritance" of the trait passed down to some of the children over three or more generations, with multiple children, male and female, having the trait. Whether this was nature or nurture working I do not know, but there were obviously bisexual traits there.
Based on my own observations it seems quite likely... (show quote)


Interesting...

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Mar 22, 2020 09:14:57   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Can the mental state be inherited


The mental state cannot be inherited. However, the tendency toward being vulnurable to same sex attraction, just like the tendency toward being attracted sexually to animals could be genetic. That is, in some very fragile individuals such attractions could be more likely if the individual was also abused, abandoned, neglected or in some other way unable to cope with problem in his or her childhood.

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Mar 22, 2020 09:54:55   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
whitnebrat wrote:
And a lot that didn't get there. Some are just plain coincidence, and others depend on the interpretation of the wording contained therein. I'm not great on prophecies from any source ... including those of you that are Nostradamus advocates. I will admit that there are uncanny parallels, but as to exact predictions, they're ephemeral at best.


Christ fulfilled many prophesies. Some over a thousand years old.
Do you care to study that?
It is not hard to.

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Mar 22, 2020 15:49:56   #
manning5 Loc: Richmond, VA
 
no propaganda please wrote:
The mental state cannot be inherited. However, the tendency toward being vulnurable to same sex attraction, just like the tendency toward being attracted sexually to animals could be genetic. That is, in some very fragile individuals such attractions could be more likely if the individual was also abused, abandoned, neglected or in some other way unable to cope with problem in his or her childhood.


The implications of these studies tend to show significant overlap and inheritability of mental quirks. So far, it is an inference to suggest it will be found out to be similar for homosexuality.



Five major mental illnesses — depression, bipolar disorder, ADHD, schizophrenia and autism — are traceable to the same inherited genetic variations, according to the largest genome-wide study of its kind. These variations account for 17-28 percent of mental illness risk.

The study revealed that the overlap is highest between schizophrenia and bipolar disorder; moderate for bipolar and depression, and for ADHD and depression; and low between schizophrenia and depression.

“Since our study only looked at common gene variants, the total genetic overlap between the disorders is likely higher,” said Naomi Wray, Ph.D., University of Queensland, Brisbane, Australia.

“Shared variants with smaller effects, rare variants, mutations, duplications, deletions, and gene-environment interactions also contribute to these illnesses.”

The overlap in heritability that could be attributed to common genetic variation was about 15 percent between schizophrenia and bipolar disorder, about 10 percent between bipolar disorder and depression, about 9 percent between schizophrenia and depression, and about 3 percent between schizophrenia and autism.

“Such evidence quantifying shared genetic risk factors among traditional psychiatric diagnoses will help us move toward classification that will be more faithful to nature,” said Bruce Cuthbert, Ph.D., director of the NIMH Division of Adult T***slational Research and Treatment Development.

Earlier this year, researchers with the Psychiatric Genomics Consortium (PGC) — over 300 scientists at 80 research centers in 20 countries—reported the first evidence of overlap between all five disorders.

Individuals with these disorders were more likely to have suspect variation at the same four chromosomal sites. The extent of the overlap, however, remained unclear.

In the new study, researchers used the same genome-wide information and the largest amounts of data currently available to calculate the risk for these mental disorders. They evaluated whether they could be attributable to any of hundreds of thousands of sites of common variability in the genetic code across c********es.

The researchers looked for similarities in genetic variations among thousands of people with each illness and compared them to controls, figuring out how much each pair of disorders is linked to the same genetic variants.

The new evidence linking schizophrenia and depression, if replicated, could have important implications for diagnostics and research, say the researchers. They expected to see more overlap between ADHD and autism, but the modest schizophrenia-autism connection is consistent with other emerging evidence.

The findings still leave much of the likely inherited genetic contribution to the disorders unexplained – and especially the non-inherited genetic factors. For example, common genetic variation accounted for 23 percent of schizophrenia, but evidence from twin and family studies estimate its total heritability at 81 percent.

“It is encouraging that the estimates of genetic contributions to mental disorders trace those from more traditional family and twin studies. The study points to a future of active gene discovery for mental disorders,” said Thomas Lehner, Ph.D., chief of the NIMH Genomics Research Branch.

Source: Nature Genetics




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