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Feb 26, 2020 12:37:36   #
TrueAmerican
 
lindajoy wrote:
Mike, I wasn’t born yet so I know nothing of this, nor was it taught in any History class I remember..

Abel says he remembers it, you say you do too and the Bronx guy says never happened..

Did it happen??

From what I have witnessed I would say the agenda is accurate and is being implemented for many years now!!

I pulled up a google search and hig yet another debate on whether of not it took place, what do you say, please..?


Linda I was 13 yrs old at the time and we used to study current events in school (don't know if this is still taught) and we saw film and newspaper reports of Kruschev beating his shoe on the podium and stating that America would be defeated by c*******m from within, so yes this did happen and obviously boy from the bronx is a c*******t sympathizer if he denies this history. Now you know why demonRATS want to erase and remove history !!!!!!

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Feb 26, 2020 12:44:12   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
I remember and my husband remembers. He says he fought against c*******m all his military career and now America is caving. He spent his life for nothing.


NOt for nothing it hasn’t happened here yet! Tell him thank you!

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Feb 26, 2020 12:45:49   #
kemmer
 
TexaCan wrote:
we like to keep our air nice and fresh down here!

Yeah, I can tell by all the chemical plant explosions.

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Feb 26, 2020 12:47:28   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
Boy from the Bronx wrote:
For your information, Khrushchev never made that statement about "small doses of Socialism." Some right-wing fanatic invented this quotation, which is actually a combination of two phony speeches: one where Khrushchev supposedly said that America would not accept C*******m outright, "but we can feed them small doses of Socialism, until they find out they have C*******m," and a plan allegedly written by Lenin just before his death in 1924 in which he was supposed to have said that the C*******ts would first take over Europe, and then Asia and Africa, then the Americas, and finally, "we shall surround the United States, that last bastion of capitalism, and we will not have to fight. It will fall like an overripe fruit into our hands." But, neither Lenin nor Khrushchev ever uttered any of these words.

I suggest you consult the book "They Never Said It," by John George and Paul F. Boller, Jr., (Copyright 1989), which list the two false quotes attributed to Khrushchev (which both use the "small doses of Socialism" line), as well as Lenin's "Overripe Fruit" quote, plus 25 other phony and misleading utterances credited to him.

After hearing about the phony Khrushchev quote, U.S. Senator Lee Metcalf said that those who dreamed up such bogus speeches and yet continued to repeat them while knowing that they were frauds "are cut from the same cloth as C*******ts and F*****ts."

But wait, there's more (like they say in some commercials)! The book also reveals that Khrushchev also never said that "American liberals are too liberal (or "too soft") to fight," Gus Hall, the head of the American C*******t Party for years, never made that bloodcurdling speech about how he dreamed of "the hour when the last minister is strangled to death with the guts of the last Congressman" (which he supposedly delivered at the 1961 funeral of fellow C*******t Eugene Dennis, which was covered by several newspapers, including the New York Times, which mentioned no such speech), that Dmitry Manislusky (I think that's how his last name is spelled) never spoke about how the "Reds" will smash the capitalist nations "with our clenched fist" (he allegedly said this at the "Lenin School Of Political Warfare in Moscow," an institution that, in reality, never existed), that labor leader Walter Reuther never wrote a letter praising the Soviet labor movement, or attacking capitalism, or ending up with "Carry on the fight for a Soviet America" (there were at least three versions of this phony letter, and all three of them were inserted into the Congressional Record by anti-labor Congressmen), that President Franklin Delano Roosevelt never told Congressman Martin Dies, the head of the House Un-American Activities Committee, that "Some of the best friends I've got are C*******ts" (despite what John Stormer's Anti-C*******t book "None Dare Call It Treason" would have us believe), and so on.

This is all part of a peculiar habit of the far-right: the way they exaggerate the threat of C*******m by, among other things, inventing false statements which they attribute to C*******t leaders, not to mention equally phony quotes supposedly said by Non-C*******ts for the purpose of labeling them as "Reds" or "Red" sympathizers, creating "C****e plots" where they don't exist (like for example, claiming that the Civil Rights movement was C*******t-inspired), or even fabricating non-existent C*******t threats to our "National Security" in other countries in order to justify o*******wing harmless foreign governments that threatened the interests of U.S.-owned businesses. That's what the C.I.A. did when they ousted the Prime Minister of Iran in 1953, and replaced him with the tyrannical Shah (King) to protect the oil interests that were owned by the United States and the United Kingdom, when they o*******w Guatamala's liberal president, Jacobo Arbenz Guzman, and put in a military dictatorship to safeguard the interests of the United Fruit Company in 1954, when they forced out Chile's Democratic-Socialist president, Salvador Allende (who later committed suicide) in 1973, and put into power the military dictator, General Augusto Pinochet, for the benefit of several American corporations stationed there. They not only put these tyrants in power, but helped them to oppress the people by teaching their armies and their Secret Police forces how to torture and murder their enemies. I suspect the C.I.A. learned all this from the N**i officials they helped to escape justice through "Operation Paperclip," because the United States Government felt it was "in our interest" to do so, because now the Russians were our enemies instead of the Germans (never mind the fact that the Soviet Union was one of our most important Allies during World War Two, which did more to slow down the N**i drive across Europe than all the other Allied nations put together).

Then, there was the C.I.A.'s penchant for commiting terrorist acts in Southeast Asia and blaming them on the C*******ts, thus justifying further U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War. As if that wasn't bad enough, the agency even had a plan ("Operation Northwoods" it was called) to commit similar acts of terror in the United States itself, thus k*****g or wounding innocent American citizens, and then frame equally innocent Cubans for the crimes, in order to make it appear that Fidel Castro, Cuba's C*******t Premier, had ordered and masterminded the attacks himself (the agency probably learned that from those Operation Paperclip N**is, because they sometimes tried to frame the Reds for crimes the N**is themselves committed, like the burning of the Reichstag building in Berlin in 1933). This would have given the U.S. Government a reason (or excuse, depending on your point of view) to invade Cuba and oust Castro. However, President John F. Kennedy vetoed the idea, because he felt it was wrong, and because he suspected that the real reason for certain people to want to get rid of Castro was because he had nationalized American business interests and had closed down hotels, brothels, and gambling casinos owned by American businessmen and by the Mafia, who also used to smuggle dope out of Cuba, a racket that was also stopped by Castro. This is why the mob conspired with the C.I.A. to k**l Castro, and not because he was a threat to the United States.

This is also why Kennedy wanted to abolish the C.I.A., because he saw that it was using Anti-C*******m as a racket.

It's no wonder that so many people believe that the agency was involved in the assassination of the President in 1963 in Dallas, Texas (a hotbed of right-wing extremism), and that they framed Lee Harvey Oswald for the crime because he was a C*******t!

Again, the far-right was using Anti-C*******m as a racket, or as an excuse to get rid of people they didn't like or were a menace to their personal interests, especially profitable interests. Again, this was a N**i tactic (the N**is h**ed C*******m too, as did the Ku Klux Klan, considered by many to be "America's N**is"). It sort of makes one wonder whether the so-called "Cold War" was not so much about saving the world from C*******m, as it was about using the "Red Menace" as part of a plot to establish a F*****t Police State in America, and/or to make the American people so afraid, not just of the "C****es," but of anything that was the slightest bit to the left (like American liberals and Democrats, for instance), that they would willingly accept a N**i-like regime just so they'll feel "safe." (This is basically what happened in Chile in 1973, when agents provocateur of the C.I.A., Chile's extreme right, and even Cuban exiles, used psychological warfare, including the manipulation of the country's economic problems to make things even worse and thus blame it all on President Allende, to make Chile ripe for a F*****t military c**p; of course, many of Chile's citizens came to regret supporting the c**p when they realized what a despot General Pinochet was).

So, it's no surprise that you're now trying to make it appear that the goals of the C*******t Party U.S.A. are similar to that of the Democratic Party. It's all the same tactic used by the paranoid right in Iran, Guatemala, Chile, Vietnam, Cuba, etc, and by the N**is in Germany (not to mention the F*****ts in Italy): discredit all Democrats and liberals by linking them to C*******m, or at least, to Socialism. It's also no surprise that the same far-right fanatics support Donald Trump, who has practically made war on the United States Constitution and is basically leading us to F*****m. And the worst part is that too many Americans (who are supposed to believe in freedom) are letting Trump get away with it because he supposedly "improved the economy."

So what? Hitler improved Germany's economy too!
For your information, Khrushchev never made that s... (show quote)


You stand up for evil but can’t see that the same lies have been perpetrated against our president! He didn’t do it either!!!!

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Feb 26, 2020 12:50:59   #
kemmer
 
Wonttakeitanymore wrote:
You stand up for evil but can’t see that the same lies have been perpetrated against our president! He didn’t do it either!!!!

And if there’s someone well acquainted with lies, it’s Trump.

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Feb 26, 2020 13:13:17   #
Forkbassman Loc: Missouri
 
Abel wrote:
Many funny things have happened to me on my way to where I am now, but this ain't funny McGee! Many won't remember Fibber McGee either.

I remember when Nikita Khrushchev banged his shoe on the podium and said these very words; it wasn't funny then, and it ain't funny now. However, a good many of y'all weren't yet old enough to remember it, or maybe not yet born, so I'm passing it on as a history lesson. If you don't think it's happening to the USA right now, you have your head in the sand or up where the sun doesn't shine. We fought hard to remove C*******m, but obviously we have failed; we need to finish the fight!

A sobering reminder.

Almost exactly sixty years ago since Russia’s Khrushchev delivered his message to the UN; … prediction for America.

TV coverage of him banging his shoe on the podium. At that time, the word ‘c*******m’ was feared throughout our nation. Do you remember September 29, 1959?

Now here is some food for thought if it does not make us choke! Do you remember September 29, 1959? THIS WAS HIS ENTIRE QUOTE:

"Your children's children will live under c*******m. You Americans are so gullible. No, you won't accept c*******m outright; but we will keep feeding you small doses of socialism until you will finally wake up and find you already have C*******m. We will not have to fight you; We will so weaken your economy, until you will fall like overripe fruit into our hands." "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."

Remember, socialism leads to C*******m. So, how do you create a Socialistic State ?

There are 8 levels of control; read the following recipe.

1) Healthcare - Control healthcare and you control the people.

2) Poverty - Increase the poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them.

3) Debt - Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.

4) Gun Control - Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state.

5) Welfare - Take control of every aspect (food, housing, income) of their lives because that will make them fully dependent on the government.

6) Education - Take control of what people read and listen to and take control of what children learn in school.

7) Religion - Remove the belief in God from the Government and schools because the people need to believe in ONLY the government knowing what is best for the people.

8) Class Warfare - Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. Eliminate the middle class. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to tax the wealthy with the support of the poor.

Sounds just like the (Democratic) Party agenda.
Many funny things have happened to me on my way to... (show quote)

Excellent & TRUE! So many "sheeples" today think socialism will work. 46 countries have tried & NONE have succeeded.

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Feb 26, 2020 13:26:08   #
kemmer
 
Forkbassman wrote:
Excellent & TRUE! So many "sheeples" today think socialism will work. 46 countries have tried & NONE have succeeded.

Uh-huh.

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Feb 26, 2020 13:37:39   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
kemmer wrote:
And if there’s someone well acquainted with lies, it’s Trump.


A buddy of mine made the comment once that the l*****t candidates must really suck big time if we, on the right, are willing to support such an awful candidate as they describe Trump to be.

For his every exaggeration/"lie", the left truly lies ten times over. Trump bloviates and talks big for effect and to make a point. You l*****ts lie for deception, to misrepresent, to hurt others. You are all, for the most part, truly dishonest and evil.

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Feb 26, 2020 13:39:25   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Forkbassman wrote:
Excellent & TRUE! So many "sheeples" today think socialism will work. 46 countries have tried & NONE have succeeded.


Bernie is like so many of the past; thinking a benevolent leader can implement socialism such that it actually works. It's a common mistake in history. Books and TV shows have been done to illustrate it.

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Feb 26, 2020 15:08:47   #
kemmer
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
A buddy of mine made the comment once that the l*****t candidates must really suck big time if we, on the right, are willing to support such an awful candidate as they describe Trump to be.

We often wonder that too. But then again, Trump’s base is largely rural, white, non college educated.

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Feb 26, 2020 15:27:04   #
zillaorange
 
Abel wrote:
Many funny things have happened to me on my way to where I am now, but this ain't funny McGee! Many won't remember Fibber McGee either.

I remember when Nikita Khrushchev banged his shoe on the podium and said these very words; it wasn't funny then, and it ain't funny now. However, a good many of y'all weren't yet old enough to remember it, or maybe not yet born, so I'm passing it on as a history lesson. If you don't think it's happening to the USA right now, you have your head in the sand or up where the sun doesn't shine. We fought hard to remove C*******m, but obviously we have failed; we need to finish the fight!

A sobering reminder.

Almost exactly sixty years ago since Russia’s Khrushchev delivered his message to the UN; … prediction for America.

TV coverage of him banging his shoe on the podium. At that time, the word ‘c*******m’ was feared throughout our nation. Do you remember September 29, 1959?

Now here is some food for thought if it does not make us choke! Do you remember September 29, 1959? THIS WAS HIS ENTIRE QUOTE:

"Your children's children will live under c*******m. You Americans are so gullible. No, you won't accept c*******m outright; but we will keep feeding you small doses of socialism until you will finally wake up and find you already have C*******m. We will not have to fight you; We will so weaken your economy, until you will fall like overripe fruit into our hands." "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."

Remember, socialism leads to C*******m. So, how do you create a Socialistic State ?

There are 8 levels of control; read the following recipe.

1) Healthcare - Control healthcare and you control the people.

2) Poverty - Increase the poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them.

3) Debt - Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.

4) Gun Control - Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state.

5) Welfare - Take control of every aspect (food, housing, income) of their lives because that will make them fully dependent on the government.

6) Education - Take control of what people read and listen to and take control of what children learn in school.

7) Religion - Remove the belief in God from the Government and schools because the people need to believe in ONLY the government knowing what is best for the people.

8) Class Warfare - Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. Eliminate the middle class. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to tax the wealthy with the support of the poor.

Sounds just like the (Democratic) Party agenda.
Many funny things have happened to me on my way to... (show quote)


& Molly ?

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Feb 26, 2020 15:29:13   #
zillaorange
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
I remember and my husband remembers. He says he fought against c*******m all his military career and now America is caving. He spent his life for nothing.


Lots of U.S. WON'T CAVE ! Your husband as well !

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Feb 26, 2020 15:42:54   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
kemmer wrote:
Many of you clowns think c*******m (the Democrats) is the opposite of trumpism, whereas trumpism in the form of Trump himself is a proto-dictatorship with the complicity of the Republican party--or what was once the Republican party but is now the Trumplican party.


Yes, the Republican party sucked, why do you think there was a need for the Tea party?

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Feb 26, 2020 15:43:04   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
kemmer wrote:
We often wonder that too. But then again, Trump’s base is largely rural, white, non college educated.


That's a myth. Lots ARE rural but the vast majority of suburban, living conservative lives near cities but generally, not actually within the city. To think that most of Trumps support are country folks is to buy into a stereotype.

Most are white but looky at all the change in black support for him.

AS for non-college educated, that might be true. Successful non-college educated folks tend to be hard working, responsible people. College educated are generally younger these days but, as they grow older and see how uncle Sam takes their hard earned income and gives it away, the change into conservatives. Also, I find that most older college educated folk who don't support Trump simply dislike him but like his policies and lower taxes; they appreciate the low unemployment and increasing success of both small and large businesses. They are the ones who v**e for him but don't tell anyone. They like Bernie, a lot do, and Bootygeg too but are not going to v**e for the higher taxes which a democratic candidate will bring to the table.

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Feb 26, 2020 15:49:07   #
zillaorange
 
Lt. Rob Polans ret. wrote:
Yes, the Republican party sucked, why do you think there was a need for the Tea party?


After this fiasco, maybe the Tea Party will try again ??!!

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