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Feb 27, 2020 16:40:41   #
Milosia
 
And my misfortune is being in this country presently with trump stars like you wandering around in the belief that your money is yours and everyone else like me can pay for all the services listed above You so readily accept as free to you.
My guess is that you are not one of the anointed 1%
but still will fall on your sword for the very same people who possess your ideology.
Although nothing in common otherwise.
Wakey Wakey! They don’t care at all about you.
But , if you think it’s safe,
Go ahead and drink the KoolAid.!

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Feb 27, 2020 17:22:24   #
Navigator
 
Milosia wrote:
If what you think is correct then what is a country? How do economies work?
Who pays the bills for All the peripheral infrastructure required to maintain the millionaire brigade? Such as but not limited to roads , interstate highways, traffic control, bridges, police and fire protection, education, electricity, water,
Hospitals and emergency services??
And no the money does not belong to anyone besides the FEDERAL RESERVE.
This is why printed directly on it , it says FEDERAL RESERVE NOTE.
Issued by the UNITED STATES TREASURY.
THESE NOTES CAN BE RECALLED AT ANYTIME!
By the UNITED STATES TREASURY.
So heretofore if Your name is not on the money, hence, it is not yours.
If what you think is correct then what is a countr... (show quote)


Your post is quite undecipherable and your economic knowledge is severely lacking. My "money" is not greenbacks; every paper dollar in every denomination could be recalled tomorrow and it wouldn't affect my "money" at all. And, to reiterate, my "money" (wealth) is mine and mine alone.

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Feb 27, 2020 20:24:25   #
Milosia
 
Illusions, delusions, fantasy, and distorted reality!
You talk like a 15 year old complaining about being forced to buy school clothes with his allowance.
It’s not fair....wah...it’s not fair.
Yours and yours alone.
Too funny. Just like your allowance?
And you buy a house, the bank owns it
Buy a car the bank owns it
Hit the lottery you get to keep 54%
You have wealth created in this country with help from this country
Your partner is this country. This is because no one could do it all on their own.
Somebody paid a lot to create the atmosphere for you to create your wealth.
The US Taxpayer usually. With money from...
The US TREASURY.
but go ahead claim your little island to be all yours yours all yours.
Miss a tax payment
Government owns it.
If you want to live like they do in Somalia..
Then move to Somalia.
No laws, no churches, no stoplights, everyone wears a gun, shoot who you don’t like, no laws.

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Feb 28, 2020 08:27:07   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
Milosia wrote:

So heretofore if Your name is not on the money, hence, it is not yours.


Then who's money is it that's in my bank account ?

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Feb 28, 2020 11:16:29   #
Singularity
 
4430 wrote:
Then who's money is it that's in my bank account ?

A better question:

Luke 12:16-21 King James Version
"16 And he spake a parable unto them, saying, The ground of a certain rich man brought forth plentifully:

17 And he thought within himself, saying, What shall I do, because I have no room where to bestow my fruits?

18 And he said, This will I do: I will pull down my barns, and build greater; and there will I bestow all my fruits and my goods.

19 And I will say to my soul, Soul, thou hast much goods laid up for many years; take thine ease, eat, drink, and be merry.

20 But God said unto him, Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee: then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided?

21 So is he that layeth up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God."


And the answer,

Matthew 6:34 King James Version

“Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.”

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Put that bank account to some good use, now! Your fears regarding possible future deprivation are an evil refusal to trust your God to provide for you. And if the God were like you, storing up food while people around you are hungry, you would probably be justified. But either you don't have faith in a God who provides your needs and thus want to instead hoard goods and money for the future, or else you think you are special and deserve MORE.

Or maybe you aren't even claiming to be a Christian? I don't. I just have an unfortunately prolific memory for childhood texts.

I personally think there is a happy medium and enjoy having sufficient to my needs, a few luxuries, and to dabble at charity in my preferred ways.

Jesus was a radical, though. Some of his advice is truly senseless.

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Feb 28, 2020 12:16:12   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
Singularity wrote:
A better question:

Luke 12:16-21 King James Version
"16 And he spake a parable unto them, saying, The ground of a certain rich man brought forth plentifully:

17 And he thought within himself, saying, What shall I do, because I have no room where to bestow my fruits?

18 And he said, This will I do: I will pull down my barns, and build greater; and there will I bestow all my fruits and my goods.

19 And I will say to my soul, Soul, thou hast much goods laid up for many years; take thine ease, eat, drink, and be merry.

20 But God said unto him, Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee: then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided?

21 So is he that layeth up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God."


And the answer,

Matthew 6:34 King James Version

“Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.”

~


Put that bank account to some good use, now! Your fears regarding possible future deprivation are an evil refusal to trust your God to provide for you. And if the God were like you, storing up food while people around you are hungry, you would probably be justified. But either you don't have faith in a God who provides your needs and thus want to instead hoard goods and money for the future, or else you think you are special and deserve MORE.

Or maybe you aren't even claiming to be a Christian? I don't. I just have an unfortunately prolific memory for childhood texts.

I personally think there is a happy medium and enjoy having sufficient to my needs, a few luxuries, and to dabble at charity in my preferred ways.

Jesus was a radical, though. Some of his advice is truly senseless.
A better question: br br Luke 12:16-21 King James... (show quote)


I'm getting my taxed done today and if I were to show you the amount I've given this year to charity with no dabbling which for some it would blow their socks off and everyone would think I was bragging !

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Feb 28, 2020 14:01:54   #
Milosia
 
4430 wrote:
I'm getting my taxed done today and if I were to show you the amount I've given this year to charity with no dabbling which for some it would blow their socks off and everyone would think I was bragging !


Who did your taxes trump ?
Trump said he gives so much to charity it’d make your head swim.
Of course that time he stole the charity money from our US Veterans in a s**m he got caught for and had to pay a fine ...

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Feb 28, 2020 14:07:36   #
Milosia
 
Auntie Lulu wrote:
Bravo! I am all for having my neighbor work as hard, and as many hours as I worked to provide healthcare for myself. But, if other people do not wish to work that hard, or be as diligent as I have been--then they should do without healthcare. In no instance do I believe in the thieft of anyone's labor to support those who are to lazy to support themselves . . . . this does not include the truly infirmed, or mentally unstable in our society.


Lulu; hasn’t anyone told you the harder you work, the harder you’re gonna need to work.
Here’s my take on it, you need to make more money because the more money you make, the less hard you need to work.

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Feb 28, 2020 14:08:48   #
Milosia
 
Work is for a Fools and Horses,
And
Horses turn their asses to it.

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Feb 28, 2020 15:07:52   #
Singularity
 
4430 wrote:
I'm getting my taxed done today and if I were to show you the amount I've given this year to charity with no dabbling which for some it would blow their socks off and everyone would think I was bragging !


Aren't you?

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Feb 28, 2020 19:38:14   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
lindajoy wrote:
With so much to it, No, it is not a right...
Simply stated it is not a right at all. It is more a moral obligation to insure a means of medical care for those in need...

”We hold these t***hs to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.” Right?? Of course buttttttt Nothing says government will insure it..

These words are in the Declaration of Independence and define the “rights” of American citizens.

Some Americans have believed that health care is not only a right, but that the government should provide it and taxpayers should pay for it...Back to s moral obligation to Insure medical care which is already done... Medicaid/medicare, personal, private health provided...
With so much to it, No, it is not a right... br Si... (show quote)


The Declaration of Independence is not about citizen rights. It only addresses freedom from British rule for the 13 colonies and the right to exist as independent colonies.

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Feb 28, 2020 20:22:18   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
Singularity wrote:
Aren't you?


Milosia
Navigator wrote:

I am really sorry that you had the misfortune to be born in the US where the money of private citizens belongs to them NOT to the government as you seem to believe; if all of our wealth actually did belong to the government you might be able to get a piece of it which I am sure would make you quite pleased.

So heretofore if Your name is not on the money, hence, it is not yours.

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4430 Wrote

Then who's money is it that's in my bank account ?

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No I wasn't bragging I was resounding your reply to the above post I made which your post had absolutely nothing to do with my statement !

You were preaching to me your sermon suggesting that the money in my bank account wasn't mine and that I should follow your sermon and put my bank account to good use !


I am very well aware of the scripture you were preaching and I've heard many sermons on it since I was a kid at the age of 9 when I accepted Jesus Christ as Lord !

I have spent the better part of my life striving and living and doing what the scriptures says what God wants up to live !

I should have worded it differently I guess and I realize you have no knowledge of who I am !

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4430 wrote:
I'm getting my taxed done today and if I were to show you the amount I've given this year to charity with no dabbling which for some it would blow their socks off and everyone would think I was bragging !


Aren't you?

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Then you come back with this commit makes me wonder what your purpose was !

I admit I should have worded it differently !

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Feb 28, 2020 20:31:14   #
Singularity
 
4430 wrote:
Milosia
Navigator wrote:

I am really sorry that you had the misfortune to be born in the US where the money of private citizens belongs to them NOT to the government as you seem to believe; if all of our wealth actually did belong to the government you might be able to get a piece of it which I am sure would make you quite pleased.

So heretofore if Your name is not on the money, hence, it is not yours.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

4430 Wrote

Then who's money is it that's in my bank account ?

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No I wasn't bragging I was resounding your reply to the above post I made which your post had absolutely nothing to do with my statement !

You were preaching to me your sermon suggesting that the money in my bank account wasn't mine and that I should follow your sermon and put my bank account to good use !


I am very well aware of the scripture you were preaching and I've heard many sermons on it since I was a kid at the age of 9 when I accepted Jesus Christ as Lord !

I have spent the better part of my life striving and living and doing what the scriptures says what God wants up to live !

I should have worded it differently I guess and I realize you have no knowledge of who I am !

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4430 wrote:
I'm getting my taxed done today and if I were to show you the amount I've given this year to charity with no dabbling which for some it would blow their socks off and everyone would think I was bragging !


Aren't you?

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Then you come back with this commit makes me wonder what your purpose was !

I admit I should have worded it differently !
Milosia br Navigator wrote: br br I am really sor... (show quote)


I was thinking during dinner that my response to youwas fairly terse and I had not even added a friendly emoji..... Wink, wink!

I had unexpected company, then got distracted and only just came back. You were right to wonder. I should have added that my widow's mite was suddenly envious of your bigger barn.....

Apologies.

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Feb 28, 2020 22:26:23   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
Singularity wrote:
I was thinking during dinner that my response to youwas fairly terse and I had not even added a friendly emoji..... Wink, wink!

I had unexpected company, then got distracted and only just came back. You were right to wonder. I should have added that my widow's mite was suddenly envious of your bigger barn.....

Apologies.


Apology accepted !

The written word has no way to convey emotions to tell if one is serious or tongue in cheek !

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Feb 28, 2020 23:54:23   #
Singularity
 
4430 wrote:
Apology accepted !

The written word has no way to convey emotions to tell if one is serious or tongue in cheek !


thanks

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