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Feb 25, 2020 18:44:55   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
It happens, my parents, lifelong Democrats, Kennedy Democrats, v**ed for Ronald Reagan because they liked him.
...I suppose that they are still v****g Democrat from their cemetery precinct.


The Kennedy thing is someone my father, a staunch Republican, liked Kennedy very much .. He love Reagan tho..

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Feb 25, 2020 19:01:56   #
Mikeyavelli
 
lindajoy wrote:
The Kennedy thing is someone my father, a staunch Republican, liked Kennedy very much .. He love Reagan tho..


Any sensible American liked Reagan, and now every sensible American loves Trump, warts and all, although those warts are what keeps him in office.

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Feb 26, 2020 00:46:23   #
EconomistDon
 
lindajoy wrote:
The Kennedy thing is someone my father, a staunch Republican, liked Kennedy very much .. He love Reagan tho..


Kennedy was one of the last Democrats with integrity. He had vision for the future and put it into action. He had his good friend, Harris Wofford, working closely with black communities to do what he could for them at a time when the Democrat party was opposing Republicans' Civil Rights legislation. He fought fiercely with the military industrial complex to avoid war, and I believe that it got him k**led. His brother, Bobby, carried on much of his initiatives and it got him k**led. The Kennedys and Reagan were the last to have solid bi-partisan support. They weren't playing politics; they were addressing America's needs. Trump is just as dev**ed to America's needs, but Democrats have sunk so deep into obstruction, jealousy, and hatred that they can't admit that Trump is doing all the right stuff.

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Feb 26, 2020 06:41:44   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
EconomistDon wrote:
Kennedy was one of the last Democrats with integrity. He had vision for the future and put it into action. He had his good friend, Harris Wofford, working closely with black communities to do what he could for them at a time when the Democrat party was opposing Republicans' Civil Rights legislation. He fought fiercely with the military industrial complex to avoid war, and I believe that it got him k**led. His brother, Bobby, carried on much of his initiatives and it got him k**led. The Kennedys and Reagan were the last to have solid bi-partisan support. They weren't playing politics; they were addressing America's needs. Trump is just as dev**ed to America's needs, but Democrats have sunk so deep into obstruction, jealousy, and hatred that they can't admit that Trump is doing all the right stuff.
Kennedy was one of the last Democrats with integri... (show quote)


I think you and my Dad may have talked.. He felt much the same way as you express here..
Altho he passed before Trump I suspect he would have enjoyed the “ maverick” in him as he did with Kennedy and Reagan...👍

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Feb 26, 2020 06:43:00   #
American Vet
 
EconomistDon wrote:
Kennedy was one of the last Democrats with integrity. He had vision for the future and put it into action. He had his good friend, Harris Wofford, working closely with black communities to do what he could for them at a time when the Democrat party was opposing Republicans' Civil Rights legislation. He fought fiercely with the military industrial complex to avoid war, and I believe that it got him k**led. His brother, Bobby, carried on much of his initiatives and it got him k**led. The Kennedys and Reagan were the last to have solid bi-partisan support. They weren't playing politics; they were addressing America's needs. Trump is just as dev**ed to America's needs, but Democrats have sunk so deep into obstruction, jealousy, and hatred that they can't admit that Trump is doing all the right stuff.
Kennedy was one of the last Democrats with integri... (show quote)



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Feb 26, 2020 08:50:12   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
American Vet wrote:


JFK put America First, So the Deep State/CIA took him out.

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Feb 26, 2020 09:02:49   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
eagleye13 wrote:
JFK put America First, So the Deep State/CIA took him out.



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Feb 26, 2020 09:15:16   #
Mikeyavelli
 
EconomistDon wrote:
Kennedy was one of the last Democrats with integrity. He had vision for the future and put it into action. He had his good friend, Harris Wofford, working closely with black communities to do what he could for them at a time when the Democrat party was opposing Republicans' Civil Rights legislation. He fought fiercely with the military industrial complex to avoid war, and I believe that it got him k**led. His brother, Bobby, carried on much of his initiatives and it got him k**led. The Kennedys and Reagan were the last to have solid bi-partisan support. They weren't playing politics; they were addressing America's needs. Trump is just as dev**ed to America's needs, but Democrats have sunk so deep into obstruction, jealousy, and hatred that they can't admit that Trump is doing all the right stuff.
Kennedy was one of the last Democrats with integri... (show quote)

👍👍👍👍👍

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Feb 26, 2020 09:27:19   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
EconomistDon wrote:
Kennedy was one of the last Democrats with integrity. He had vision for the future and put it into action. He had his good friend, Harris Wofford, working closely with black communities to do what he could for them at a time when the Democrat party was opposing Republicans' Civil Rights legislation. He fought fiercely with the military industrial complex to avoid war, and I believe that it got him k**led. His brother, Bobby, carried on much of his initiatives and it got him k**led. The Kennedys and Reagan were the last to have solid bi-partisan support. They weren't playing politics; they were addressing America's needs. Trump is just as dev**ed to America's needs, but Democrats have sunk so deep into obstruction, jealousy, and hatred that they can't admit that Trump is doing all the right stuff.
Kennedy was one of the last Democrats with integri... (show quote)


You covered it well, EconomistDon

"]Kennedy was one of the last Democrats with integrity. He had vision for the future and put it into action. He had his good friend, Harris Wofford, working closely with black communities to do what he could for them at a time when the Democrat party was opposing Republicans' Civil Rights legislation. He fought fiercely with the military industrial complex to avoid war, and I believe that it got him k**led. His brother, Bobby, carried on much of his initiatives and it got him k**led. The Kennedys and Reagan were the last to have solid bi-partisan support. They weren't playing politics; they were addressing America's needs. Trump is just as dev**ed to America's needs, but Democrats have sunk so deep into obstruction, jealousy, and hatred that they can't admit that Trump is doing all the right stuff." - EconomistDon

Republicans should win in a land slide this November.

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Feb 27, 2020 00:46:47   #
EconomistDon
 
lindajoy wrote:
I think you and my Dad may have talked.. He felt much the same way as you express here..
Altho he passed before Trump I suspect he would have enjoyed the “ maverick” in him as he did with Kennedy and Reagan...👍


Thanks Linda. Your dad probably grew up when I did. Growing up in the 50s, we lived in fear of nuclear annihilation. We had routine bomb drills where we would get under our desks to hide from flying glass. But what was the point of that if a nuclear bomb would burn us all to a crisp. The news was full of threats from Russia, and there was a "doomsday clock" that would move a minute closer to midnight every time something nasty happened. We were convinced that we would never grow up; we would be wiped out instead. We were thrilled with Kennedy because he was smart and he had balls. He stood up to Russia AND the military industrial complex. Most people don't realize the pressure that Kennedy resisted from the MIC. They wanted to take out Castro, but they couldn't just go in with guns blazing -- bad world press. So their plan was to have some CIA operatives pose as Cubans and k**l a bunch of people stateside. That would give the MIC an excuse to steamroll Cuba and take out Castro. Kennedy said NO. Then the MIC had a plan to use first-strike nuclear attack on Russia. We had a nuclear superiority at the time. So they reasoned that we could wipe out all of Russia while losing only about 400 thousand of our own population. Kennedy said NO. Then the Cuban Missile Crisis came along. Again the MIC wanted to start shooting, to blow them away, and potentially start WW3. Kennedy said NO. After a few days of intense deliberation, Kennedy decided to blockade Cuba. And it worked. Russia backed down and removed their missiles from Cuba. All those events are etched in my mind; we were scared as hell for good reason.

The military industrial complex is still up to no good; Eisenhower warned us before he left office.

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Feb 27, 2020 09:44:29   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
EconomistDon wrote:
Thanks Linda. Your dad probably grew up when I did. Growing up in the 50s, we lived in fear of nuclear annihilation. We had routine bomb drills where we would get under our desks to hide from flying glass. But what was the point of that if a nuclear bomb would burn us all to a crisp. The news was full of threats from Russia, and there was a "doomsday clock" that would move a minute closer to midnight every time something nasty happened. We were convinced that we would never grow up; we would be wiped out instead. We were thrilled with Kennedy because he was smart and he had balls. He stood up to Russia AND the military industrial complex. Most people don't realize the pressure that Kennedy resisted from the MIC. They wanted to take out Castro, but they couldn't just go in with guns blazing -- bad world press. So their plan was to have some CIA operatives pose as Cubans and k**l a bunch of people stateside. That would give the MIC an excuse to steamroll Cuba and take out Castro. Kennedy said NO. Then the MIC had a plan to use first-strike nuclear attack on Russia. We had a nuclear superiority at the time. So they reasoned that we could wipe out all of Russia while losing only about 400 thousand of our own population. Kennedy said NO. Then the Cuban Missile Crisis came along. Again the MIC wanted to start shooting, to blow them away, and potentially start WW3. Kennedy said NO. After a few days of intense deliberation, Kennedy decided to blockade Cuba. And it worked. Russia backed down and removed their missiles from Cuba. All those events are etched in my mind; we were scared as hell for good reason.

The military industrial complex is still up to no good; Eisenhower warned us before he left office.
Thanks Linda. Your dad probably grew up when I di... (show quote)


A tool of the MIC!

Endless War Explained In 2 Minutes

https://youtu.be/z2hRRGHBeSw

The Council on Foreign Relations - James Perloff Exposes the CFR Agenda - Corbett Report
https://youtu.be/VT3BzYUZpo4


This is how the take over of BOTH parties was achieved:


Both party “leaderships” have been partners in the International Banker’s NWO/NeoCON Agenda
Both parties have promoted - NWO F*****m/Warfare & NWO Socialism (international bank funding and bailouts by taxpayers)
Both parties have been partners in working for the PRIVATE Federal Reserve Bankers. “OUR” Government bailed the Banksters out, and left the citizens/taxpayers holding the bag for Trillions.
Both parties have promoted perpetual “war”. Just pay attention to Obama’s Foreign policy; Same as the NeoCON’s foreign policy of perpetual wars; based on the phony “War on Terrorism”.
The e******n fixers have been trying to put it in place again, to eliminate all other non-owned candidates.
The banker controlled media (FOX,CNN,CBS.NBC, and ABC do all they can to install another CFR puppet. Just go to You Tube to see the prejudice and party corruption used against Ron Paul. The owned media, with their Talking Bobble Heads, are full partners in our nation’s sell out to a world socialist/f*****t dictatorship run by wannabe s***e masters.
Who will open their eyes and wake up others?
Some CFR commentary
http://www.alpheus.org/html/source_materials/parapolitics/CFR_NWO.htm

The 3,000 seats of the CFR quickly filled with members of America's elite. Today,CFR members occupy key positions in government, the mass media, financial institutions, multinational corporations, the military, and the national security apparatus.
Since its inception, the CFR has served as an intermediary between high finance, big oil, corporate elitists and the U.S. government. The executive branch changes hands between Republican and Democratic administrations, but cabinet seats are always held by CFR members. It has been said by political commentators on the left and on the right that if you want to know what U.S. foreign policy will be next year, you should read Foreign Affairs this year.
The CFR's claim that "The Council has no affiliation with the U.S. government" is laughable. The justification for that statement is that funding comes from member dues, subscriptions to its Corporate Program, foundation grants, and so forth. All this really means is that the U.S. government does not exert any control over the CFR via the purse strings.
In reality, CFR members are very tightly affiliated with the U.S. government. Since 1940, every U.S. secretary of state (except for Gov. James Byrnes of South Carolina, the sole exception) has been a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and/or its younger brother, the Trilateral Commission. Also since 1940, every secretary of war and every secretary of defense has been a CFR member. During most of its existence, the Central Intelligence Agency has been headed by CFR members, beginning with CFR founding member Allen Dulles. Virtually every key U.S. national security and foreign policy adviser has been a CFR member for the past seventy years.
Almost all White House cabinet positions are occupied by CFR members. President Clinton, himself a member of the CFR, the Trilateral Commission and the Bilderberg Group, employs almost one hundred CFR members in his administration. Presidents come and go, but the CFR's power--and agenda--always remains.
________________________________________
The CFR's Shroud of Secrecy - On its web page, the CFR boasts that its magazine, Foreign Affairs, "is acclaimed for its analysis of recent international developments and for its forecasts of emerging trends." It's not much of a challenge to do so, though, when you play a part in determining what those emerging trends will be.
This point is underscored a paragraph later on their web page: "Perhaps best known for the history-making "X" article by George Kennan, that defined Cold War containment policy, a recent Foreign Affairs article by Harvard's Samuel Huntington, "The Clash of Civilizations?" has already helped define the post-Cold War debate."
So are they predicting trends or creating them? The answer is fairly obvious to anyone who has earnestly reflected on the matter.
The CFR fancies itself to represent a diverse range cultural and political interests, but its members are predominantly wealthy males, and their policies reflect their elitist biases. The CFR attempts to maintain the charade of diversity via its Non-Attribution Rule, which allows members to engage in "a free, frank, and open exchange of ideas" without fear of having any of their statements attributed in public. The flip side of this, obviously, is a dark cloud of secrecy which envelopes the CFR's activities.
CFR meetings are usually held in secret and are restricted to members and very select guests. All members are free to express themselves at meetings unrestrained, because the Non-Attribution Rule guarantees that "others will not attribute or characterize their statements in public media forums or knowingly t***smit them to persons who will," according to the Council on Foreign Relations' 1992 Annual Report.
The report goes on to forbid any meeting participant "to publish a speaker's statement in attributed form in any newspaper; to repeat it on television or radio, or on a speaker's platform, or in a classroom; or to go beyond a memo of limited circulation."
The end result is that the only information the public has on the CFR is the information they release for public consumption, which should send up red f**gs for anyone who understands the immense effect that CFR directives have on America's foreign policy. The public knows what the CFR wants the public to know about the CFR, and nothing more. There is one hole in the fog of secrecy, however: a book entitled Tragedy and Hope, written by an "insider" named Dr. Carroll Quigley, mentor of Bill Clinton.
Google: “Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral, Commission, Bilderberg Group”________________________________________
CFR Roster Source: http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/cfrall1.htm#d

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Feb 28, 2020 02:17:24   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
EconomistDon wrote:
Thanks Linda. Your dad probably grew up when I did. Growing up in the 50s, we lived in fear of nuclear annihilation. We had routine bomb drills where we would get under our desks to hide from flying glass. But what was the point of that if a nuclear bomb would burn us all to a crisp. The news was full of threats from Russia, and there was a "doomsday clock" that would move a minute closer to midnight every time something nasty happened. We were convinced that we would never grow up; we would be wiped out instead. We were thrilled with Kennedy because he was smart and he had balls. He stood up to Russia AND the military industrial complex. Most people don't realize the pressure that Kennedy resisted from the MIC. They wanted to take out Castro, but they couldn't just go in with guns blazing -- bad world press. So their plan was to have some CIA operatives pose as Cubans and k**l a bunch of people stateside. That would give the MIC an excuse to steamroll Cuba and take out Castro. Kennedy said NO. Then the MIC had a plan to use first-strike nuclear attack on Russia. We had a nuclear superiority at the time. So they reasoned that we could wipe out all of Russia while losing only about 400 thousand of our own population. Kennedy said NO. Then the Cuban Missile Crisis came along. Again the MIC wanted to start shooting, to blow them away, and potentially start WW3. Kennedy said NO. After a few days of intense deliberation, Kennedy decided to blockade Cuba. And it worked. Russia backed down and removed their missiles from Cuba. All those events are etched in my mind; we were scared as hell for good reason.

The military industrial complex is still up to no good; Eisenhower warned us before he left office.
Thanks Linda. Your dad probably grew up when I di... (show quote)


Your Welcome, Don.
Now the things you discuss here I remember my father speaking of as well as learning about them in school. That fear you experienced was real at least as it was set before the media and the politicians of that time... The Cuban missile crisis as I understand it came within days of major warfare and my father in fact credited Kennedy for the outstanding outcome...

When you look at the worldly affairs going on now it really isn’t much different from what was going on in the 50s. Muslim have become the Russians and fear has been born by a slanted, criminalized news media with their own agenda of power and control for someone else not our country.

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Feb 28, 2020 02:20:28   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
eagleye13 wrote:
A tool of the MIC!

Endless War Explained In 2 Minutes

https://youtu.be/z2hRRGHBeSw

The Council on Foreign Relations - James Perloff Exposes the CFR Agenda - Corbett Report
https://youtu.be/VT3BzYUZpo4


This is how the take over of BOTH parties was achieved:


Both party “leaderships” have been partners in the International Banker’s NWO/NeoCON Agenda
Both parties have promoted - NWO F*****m/Warfare & NWO Socialism (international bank funding and bailouts by taxpayers)
Both parties have been partners in working for the PRIVATE Federal Reserve Bankers. “OUR” Government bailed the Banksters out, and left the citizens/taxpayers holding the bag for Trillions.
Both parties have promoted perpetual “war”. Just pay attention to Obama’s Foreign policy; Same as the NeoCON’s foreign policy of perpetual wars; based on the phony “War on Terrorism”.
The e******n fixers have been trying to put it in place again, to eliminate all other non-owned candidates.
The banker controlled media (FOX,CNN,CBS.NBC, and ABC do all they can to install another CFR puppet. Just go to You Tube to see the prejudice and party corruption used against Ron Paul. The owned media, with their Talking Bobble Heads, are full partners in our nation’s sell out to a world socialist/f*****t dictatorship run by wannabe s***e masters.
Who will open their eyes and wake up others?
Some CFR commentary
http://www.alpheus.org/html/source_materials/parapolitics/CFR_NWO.htm

The 3,000 seats of the CFR quickly filled with members of America's elite. Today,CFR members occupy key positions in government, the mass media, financial institutions, multinational corporations, the military, and the national security apparatus.
Since its inception, the CFR has served as an intermediary between high finance, big oil, corporate elitists and the U.S. government. The executive branch changes hands between Republican and Democratic administrations, but cabinet seats are always held by CFR members. It has been said by political commentators on the left and on the right that if you want to know what U.S. foreign policy will be next year, you should read Foreign Affairs this year.
The CFR's claim that "The Council has no affiliation with the U.S. government" is laughable. The justification for that statement is that funding comes from member dues, subscriptions to its Corporate Program, foundation grants, and so forth. All this really means is that the U.S. government does not exert any control over the CFR via the purse strings.
In reality, CFR members are very tightly affiliated with the U.S. government. Since 1940, every U.S. secretary of state (except for Gov. James Byrnes of South Carolina, the sole exception) has been a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and/or its younger brother, the Trilateral Commission. Also since 1940, every secretary of war and every secretary of defense has been a CFR member. During most of its existence, the Central Intelligence Agency has been headed by CFR members, beginning with CFR founding member Allen Dulles. Virtually every key U.S. national security and foreign policy adviser has been a CFR member for the past seventy years.
Almost all White House cabinet positions are occupied by CFR members. President Clinton, himself a member of the CFR, the Trilateral Commission and the Bilderberg Group, employs almost one hundred CFR members in his administration. Presidents come and go, but the CFR's power--and agenda--always remains.
________________________________________
The CFR's Shroud of Secrecy - On its web page, the CFR boasts that its magazine, Foreign Affairs, "is acclaimed for its analysis of recent international developments and for its forecasts of emerging trends." It's not much of a challenge to do so, though, when you play a part in determining what those emerging trends will be.
This point is underscored a paragraph later on their web page: "Perhaps best known for the history-making "X" article by George Kennan, that defined Cold War containment policy, a recent Foreign Affairs article by Harvard's Samuel Huntington, "The Clash of Civilizations?" has already helped define the post-Cold War debate."
So are they predicting trends or creating them? The answer is fairly obvious to anyone who has earnestly reflected on the matter.
The CFR fancies itself to represent a diverse range cultural and political interests, but its members are predominantly wealthy males, and their policies reflect their elitist biases. The CFR attempts to maintain the charade of diversity via its Non-Attribution Rule, which allows members to engage in "a free, frank, and open exchange of ideas" without fear of having any of their statements attributed in public. The flip side of this, obviously, is a dark cloud of secrecy which envelopes the CFR's activities.
CFR meetings are usually held in secret and are restricted to members and very select guests. All members are free to express themselves at meetings unrestrained, because the Non-Attribution Rule guarantees that "others will not attribute or characterize their statements in public media forums or knowingly t***smit them to persons who will," according to the Council on Foreign Relations' 1992 Annual Report.
The report goes on to forbid any meeting participant "to publish a speaker's statement in attributed form in any newspaper; to repeat it on television or radio, or on a speaker's platform, or in a classroom; or to go beyond a memo of limited circulation."
The end result is that the only information the public has on the CFR is the information they release for public consumption, which should send up red f**gs for anyone who understands the immense effect that CFR directives have on America's foreign policy. The public knows what the CFR wants the public to know about the CFR, and nothing more. There is one hole in the fog of secrecy, however: a book entitled Tragedy and Hope, written by an "insider" named Dr. Carroll Quigley, mentor of Bill Clinton.
Google: “Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral, Commission, Bilderberg Group”________________________________________
CFR Roster Source: http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/cfrall1.htm#d
A tool of the MIC! br br Endless War Explained In... (show quote)


There is no party. Its elitist <NWO> vs humanity...

Lots of dots connected here, much to absorb and even more who deny it~~

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Feb 28, 2020 09:47:12   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
lindajoy wrote:
There is no party. Its elitist <NWO> vs humanity...

Lots of dots connected here, much to absorb and even more who deny it~~


I have been connecting the dots since the 1960's.

Study the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) in detail.

The Council on Foreign Relations - James Perloff Exposes the CFR Agenda - Corbett Report
https://youtu.be/VT3BzYUZpo4


This is how the take over of BOTH parties was achieved:


Both party “leaderships” have been partners in the International Banker’s NWO/NeoCON Agenda
Both parties have promoted - NWO F*****m/Warfare & NWO Socialism (international bank funding and bailouts by taxpayers)
Both parties have been partners in working for the PRIVATE Federal Reserve Bankers. “OUR” Government bailed the Banksters out, and left the citizens/taxpayers holding the bag for Trillions.
Both parties have promoted perpetual “war”. Just pay attention to Obama’s Foreign policy; Same as the NeoCON’s foreign policy of perpetual wars; based on the phony “War on Terrorism”.
The e******n fixers have been trying to put it in place again, to eliminate all other non-owned candidates.
The banker controlled media (FOX,CNN,CBS.NBC, and ABC do all they can to install another CFR puppet. Just go to You Tube to see the prejudice and party corruption used against Ron Paul. The owned media, with their Talking Bobble Heads, are full partners in our nation’s sell out to a world socialist/f*****t dictatorship run by wannabe s***e masters.
Who will open their eyes and wake up others?
Some CFR commentary
http://www.alpheus.org/html/source_materials/parapolitics/CFR_NWO.htm

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Feb 29, 2020 09:51:19   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
lindajoy wrote:
There is no party. Its elitist <NWO> vs humanity...

Lots of dots connected here, much to absorb and even more who deny it~~


To really do a good job of connecting the dots of who has been at the forefront of running our country, There is none more important than studying the CFR, Trilaterals and the Bilderberg Group.

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