Clueless Hypocrite! (Page 4): What is your definition of a progressive? Someone like FDR?

WEBCO

Barracuda2020 wrote:

WOW, do you have that completely backwards, that isn't the progressives, that IS the conservatives. Do your homework pal.

What is your definition of a progressive? Someone like FDR?

EmilyD

WEBCO wrote:

Terminating a child to me means having an a******n... (show quote)

The mistake is the woman (yes the woman) who opens her legs (yes I'm omitting young innocent girls/rape, etc. from this, but even still, the baby is still innocent), and as a result has made an inconvenient "mistake" and she has the "right" to "terminate that child" as you put it.

But who speaks for the baby? Look into the eyes of a newborn child and tell me that it shouldn't live because all it is is an inconvenience.

EmilyD

What I find puzzling is that women want the fun part of sex, and when she finds herself pregnant, goes to the clinic and "gets it fixed"...that is, supposedly, her "choice". But the life she is snuffing out is either a baby boy or a baby girl!

That, to me, is the most amazing part of all of this....that humans now have the power to k**l other humans (little baby humans who can't express how they feel about wanting to stay alive) by law.

WEBCO

Kickaha wrote:

Whether you agree or disagree with a******n, it boils down to an individual making a choice. The sterilization law has nothing to do with choice, it is forced on all men. They have no choice, once they father their third child or reach the age of 50, they must get sterilized at their own expense. If she wanted to go this route, she should have proposed the law to be voluntary and promised government funding.

Yes, if a man must be sterilized at 50 or after having three children, then a woman must as well, and for the woman an a******n counts as having a child. The government must also pay for this, the government has no right to make me pay for something I don't want.

EmilyD

WEBCO wrote:

Terminating a child to me means having an a******n... (show quote)

The words you are using....."terminating a child"....... is what bothers me and everyone else.

Think about it: Terminating (ending) a child (a human being's) life is what is at issue...not a blob of tissue.

WEBCO

EmilyD wrote:

The mistake is the woman (yes the woman) who opens her legs (yes I'm omitting young innocent girls/rape, etc. from this, but even still, the baby is still innocent), and as a result has made an inconvenient "mistake" and she has the "right" to "terminate that child" as you put it.

But who speaks for the baby? Look into the eyes of a newborn child and tell me that it shouldn't live because all it is is an inconvenience.

You are preaching to the choir. I would NEVER abort a child, but I'm a Male, so I really don't have a say. I also don't believe that I have the right, or the moral authority to tell a 13 year old too bad you must have a child. I don't believe that everyone who gets pregnant should be forced to carry it through to birth. All I'm saying is it's a slippery slope, but I have a line I'm not willing to pass.

EmilyD

WEBCO wrote:

Yes, if a man must be sterilized at 50 or after having three children, then a woman must as well, and for the woman an a******n counts as having a child. The government must also pay for this, the government has no right to make me pay for something I don't want.

Then don't be part of it.

Doesn't that make you feel free!
Welcome to America!!!!

WEBCO

EmilyD wrote:

The words you are using....."terminating a child"....... is what bothers me and everyone else.

Think about it: Terminating (ending) a child (a human being's) life is what is at issue...not a blob of tissue.

Sorry, poor choice of words. Not what I meant. I am against a******n after the second trimester. I wish everyone would make the choice of adoption instead.

WEBCO

EmilyD wrote:

Then don't be part of it.

Doesn't that make you feel free!
Welcome to America!!!!

Don't be a part of what? Thank you for welcoming me to the country I was born in, willing to die for, and defended. I'm sorry if my belief in individual freedoms bothers you. Everybody makes mistakes, but at some point personal responsibility must kick in.

EmilyD

WEBCO wrote:

Sorry, poor choice of words. Not what I meant. I am against a******n after the second trimester. I wish everyone would make the choice of adoption instead.

I'm sorry. "Termination of a child" yanks my chain.

EmilyD

WEBCO wrote:

Sorry, poor choice of words. Not what I meant. I am against a******n after the second trimester. I wish everyone would make the choice of adoption instead.

Poor choice of words that make me sad. Poor babies!

WEBCO

EmilyD wrote:

Poor choice of words that make me sad. Poor babies!

Poor babies indeed. We are all sad when an innocent life ends.

EmilyD

WEBCO wrote:

Poor babies indeed. We are all sad when an innocent life ends.

And how many times thay can be saved?

I h**e a******n. Can't women just keep their legs closed...use condoms...think?

EmilyD

WEBCO wrote:

Poor babies indeed. We are all sad when an innocent life ends.

Have you ever had a baby?

Don't lie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPj4dJnP85o

Kickaha Loc: Nebraska

WEBCO wrote:

You are preaching to the choir. I would NEVER abort a child, but I'm a Male, so I really don't have a say. I also don't believe that I have the right, or the moral authority to tell a 13 year old too bad you must have a child. I don't believe that everyone who gets pregnant should be forced to carry it through to birth. All I'm saying is it's a slippery slope, but I have a line I'm not willing to pass.

Just as a matter of clarification on a******n, Catholic and Jewish religions are usually attacked for not believing in a******n for any reason. This is not true. Under both religions, if it comes to saving the life of the mother or the unborn child, they say to save the mother. The CDC, among others, have tried to study how many of the a******ns performed are actually medically necessary. They have gone so far as to request the information on the a******ns with all identifying information removed. This is the only procedure/health issue that they cannot get information on. A******n organizations and a******n doctors refuse to provide the data.