Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

US trapped in Cold War mentality
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In his opening remarks at the 56th Munich Security Conference on Friday, German President Frank-Walter Steinmeier warned of "an increasingly destructive dynamic in global politics". It was a worthy alert.

The idea of the competition of great powers is not just speculation, he cautioned, "it also marks the new reality around the world".

US Defense Secretary Mark Esper highlighted the prescience of Steinmeier's caution in his speech at the conference on Saturday when he described the times as "an era of great power competition" and identified China as "the Pentagon's top concern".

And it was not just Esper, many other attendees from the United States, from Secretary of State Mike Pompeo to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey Graham, seemed to be in Munich on a mission to scare the US' allies away from China, its 5G equipment provider Huawei first and foremost.

While the US assault against Huawei and fear of Chinese overtures to traditional allies undermining US leadership are obvious, the truly unsettling message from Munich lies in the extent to which the US is trying to dictate how countries should co-exist.

While the German president criticized the US for rejecting "even the idea of an international community", the US defense secretary appealed for the "international community" to "wake up to the challenges" from China, which he claimed was seeking "to undermine and subvert" the international system. Clearly the latter's international community is a lot more exclusive than the former's.

Equally apparent was how far apart Beijing and Washington are in their views of each other.

The Chinese approach to development and governance, which Chinese Foreign Minister and State Councilor Wang Yi said is widely praised and demonstrates the awe-inspiring advantages of the Chinese system, is precisely what Washington is warning its allies against.

The root cause of that unnecessary warning, Wang said, lies in the fact that some people in the US are reluctant to accept the rapid development and revitalization of China.

The world is no longer the unipolar one it used to be. And the world order is not yet what Russian Foreign Minister called for in 2017, one that is "post West". But the Munich security report is correct in describing our time as "less Western". And that is a trend that will become more evident as the world is becoming multipolar.

The US is presenting international relations as a simple us or them choice, countries are either with the US or against it.

But like so much of what the US representatives claimed at the conference, that is a false proposition. No one benefits from a world where countries have to choose between being a full-fledged ally of the US or engaging in a far-reaching economic partnership with China.

The top Chinese diplomat's recommendation of "a community of shared future for humanity" as a "Chinese solution", may meet a cold shoulder in Washington, but other countries should lend it an ear.

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

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Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...

They might want to delay any decision on uniting anything in anyway with China until they manage to get the C****av***s under control in their own house.

There are 69,289 with c****av***s in China, with 1,671 reported deaths through today.

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

And that is only what they report. Who knows what the actual numbers might be?

Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...

A true human tragedy, dtucker.

They already appear to be overwhelmed, but very reluctant to accept the help being offered.

JW

I don't know enough about modern China to make any kind of an assessment of how big a threat they might be. I am not even sure if they are a threat.

I can say this as a tangent, Phil Donahue did some co-broadcasting with Vladimir Posner back in the 80s, I think it was. What became obvious in watching the two audiences, Donahue's US and Posner's Russian audience, was the degree of indoctrination in the studio participants. The Russians were much (emphasize, MUCH) more open minded than the American audience... or they were much better actors.

The Russians asked questions and made comments. The Americans spouted talking points and propaganda.

I'm sure that both audiences were sincere and that is what bothered me the most. Ever since it has been my position to hold any official statement made by any nation in abeyance until I had researched it for myself. Even then, I reserve the right to change my mind.

Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX

The main enemy of both nations is the central banking system. I think that is what the US delegation is about and there has to be a reason China was building all those ghost cities with no people. Maybe all the t*****rs were promised a safe haven in China? I'm not a citizen of the world, just the USA. And we do have a lot of t*****rs in our nation. More than ever before thanks to the marriage of the left and MSM.

Factories and manufacturing are returning and we didn't cause the C****av***s to explode, or the avian bird flu, or the swine flu. China did all that to themselves based on greed and the desire for power. Maybe God put the brakes on them. Yes, we should help any way we can. But we didn't start the fire. It's a self-inflicted wound. As more people die the more the world will shut its borders to China and the more people will try to escape. They should be asking for help. That's what happens when you mess with God's children. And China was messing with them big time and starting in on the Buddist too. They wanted NO religion. Which means they wanted total control, from the womb to the tomb. Xi made himself ruler for life and was trying to become a little "g" god. He may be in the process of losing it all. Just my opinion.

Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...

Very wise synopsis, Peewee,

Xi can't lose his kingdom soon enough, for the sake of the people of China, and the sake of the world.

They don't need a little "g" god. They need the Triune Christian God of Creation.

Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX

Amen!

eden

If the choice is between the ham fisted stupidity of the Trump regime and the insidious creeping f*****m of the Chicoms “other” countries would be better served to wait out the clock on both entities because both are on borrowed time.
(If you are not a stooge for the latter... then you are doing a credible imitation of one.)

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Going to respond to you first Eden...

I doubt that you bothered to read the fine replies other members posted... Expressing their opinions and thoughts on the topic... All without any attempt at ad hominem or just plain snarkyness..

I'm a stooge in your eyes because I disagree with your opinion... Sad...

Sadder was your past inability to address the questions I asked concerning certain matters pertaining to China... But you did an admirable (not the right word) job of repeating your opinions time after time....

Don't let reality slow you down....

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Hi Peewee... China has requested aid... Am they shared the c****av***s genome as soon as it was discovered.... I believe there is a coalition from WHO already prepared to enter China...

Xi Jinping is not ruler for life, despite the colorful stories from the MSM... Term limits have been abolished... He still needs to be v**ed in as president every five years... Which he will be as long as he continues to guide them Nation to prosperity....

I agree... China needs to have more safeguards on certain areas....

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Watching the MSM I often experience this phenomenon... It seems that many westerners are more prone to talking points.... Whereas I would say that Chinese in general are more prone to propaganda....

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Yes...I'll have to admit I misjudged the severity of the v***s.... Thankfully it appears that it is mostly restricted to Hunan... And infection rates are going down as recovery rates rise.... Outside Hunan.... Thankfully they have started treating patients Caithness blood plasma from recovered individuals... Hopefully we'll see fewer deaths....

We have received notification that our provincd is predicted to be v***s free by March 10th.... Amen

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Thank Tucker...I value your insights...And love Candace Owens... Brains and looks

I'm hopping into the bath... But will try to watch it before bed...