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Democrats bite their tongues as U.S. hits green milestone under Trump
Feb 16, 2020 17:45:41   #
thebigp
 
From the start of Donald Trump’s administration, he’s vowed to protect the environment. Democrats and radical climate alarmists scoffed, because he refuses to embrace their extreme policies. But guess what? Under President Trump, the United States just reached a very “green” milestone. And we’ve put the rest of the world to shame. Let’s get this squared away at the start: for Democrats, environmentalism isn’t about protecting the earth. The United States has been environmentally conscious since the 1970’s. We’ve tackled pollution, embraced recycling, and passed laws to protect our air and water. Things have improved dramatically over the last 40+ years.
Yet today, environmentalists are as crazy as ever. In fact, they are saying we are essentially doomed. Extreme climate alarmists say the “earth is on fire” and that we are only a few years away from destruction. Funny how they ignore all the progress we’ve made to keep the earth green.
There’s a reason for all their madness, and it has nothing to do with the environment. All you have to do is look at ridiculous policies like the Paris Climate Accord—which Trump wisely got us out of. Modern environmental regulation is about restricting private businesses and industries—limiting their profitability. That’s right, environmental regulation is just socialism in disguise. President Obama abused companies with his strict “green” regulations. American innovation (across all industries) was crippled. We were forced to buy energy from foreign countries. And we were losing money and jobs hand over fist.
But guess what you can do, when you have a president that cares about both the environment and American workers? You can dramatically improve the economy, while helping protect the earth. Don’t believe Bill Nye, it’s actually possible. And a new report proves Trump did just that. The United States led the entire world in reducing CO2 emissions last year while also experiencing solid economic growth, according to a newly released report.
saw the largest decline in energy-related CO2 emissions in 2019 on a country basis – a fall of 140 Mt, or 2.9%, to 4.8 Gt,” The International Energy Agency (IEA) reported on Tuesday. “US emissions are now down almost 1 Gt from their peak in the year 2000, the largest absolute decline by any country over that period.” [Source: Daily Wire]
America led the world in reducing carbon emissions last year, while still experiencing significant economic growth. Why was this possible? Because of our continued use of gas-fired power plants. Using natural gas has helped improve our economy while reducing emissions from coal-fired plants. And to think, Obama and the left want us to stop drilling for natural gas! Where do they want us to get our energy from—the moon?
Another inconvenient fact from the report? The largest CO2 contributors were… wait for it… China and India! The two countries that would not have been penalized under the Paris Climate Accord (and would have been given billions) contributed to an 80% increase in emissions. Most of the damage happening to the planet—from CO2 emissions to that plastic in the sea—comes from Asia and Africa. The United States is not the planet’s enemy. Nor is most of the Western World. Yet we’re the ones getting hammered by little dictators like Greta Thunberg and o’ Al Gore. Why aren’t they lecturing China over its pollution? Oh, because China buys and sells the left like baseball cards! How inconvenient, eh?
Our success is entirely thanks to President Trump. He eliminated Obama’s crippling regulations and encouraged the United States to lead on energy production. We are not only energy independent, but dominate, selling our energy around the world. Democrats said that to protect the earth, we’d have to go back to the Dark Ages. Guess what? They were wrong again.
Source- by The Patriotic Times

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Feb 16, 2020 17:50:07   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
Yup....those Obama policies were paying off.

Now Trump will take the credit.

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Feb 16, 2020 18:17:00   #
American Vet
 
working class stiff wrote:
Yup....those Obama policies were paying off.

Now Trump will take the credit.


That's so funny. Were you able to say it with a straight face?

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Feb 16, 2020 18:44:53   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
American Vet wrote:
That's so funny. Were you able to say it with a straight face?


Of course. It's not like President Trump is implementing any environmental policies. His administration is being sued by plenty of precincts for trying to impose lower emission standards than those jurisdictions want for their autos. That's right....the administration is being sued for trying to make states and cities sell cars that pollute more.

https://www.npr.org/2019/09/20/762763138/23-states-sue-trump-administration-in-escalating-battle-over-emissions-standards

Same story on other environmental fronts:

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/2019/02/15-ways-trump-administration-impacted-environment/

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Feb 16, 2020 23:03:32   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
working class stiff wrote:
Yup....those Obama policies were paying off.

Now Trump will take the credit.


I saw that one coming.😂😂😂😂

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Feb 17, 2020 09:18:26   #
Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas
 
working class stiff wrote:
Yup....those Obama policies were paying off.

Now Trump will take the credit.



Ha...all the blame and none of the glory.....I see.

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Feb 17, 2020 13:38:45   #
Mike Easterday
 
President Trump has traveled the world before becoming President. He knows what is going on.

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Feb 18, 2020 09:50:30   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
archie bunker wrote:
I saw that one coming.😂😂😂😂


It's not that hard to make that case.

After all....it is Trump administration policy to deregulate, is it not? And to destroy the EPA.

So I'm kinda curious how Trump's policies have helped the US hit those 'green milestones'.
Make the case.

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Feb 18, 2020 09:54:06   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
Weewillynobeerspilly wrote:
Ha...all the blame and none of the glory.....I see.


Not sure I passed out any blame. But still, same challenge to you as to Archie.

Make the case that the President's environmental policies deserve the glory.

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Feb 18, 2020 10:22:47   #
Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas
 
working class stiff wrote:
Not sure I passed out any blame. But still, same challenge to you as to Archie.

Make the case that the President's environmental policies deserve the glory.




Well now.....how about you make the case they are not worth the glory, anyone can sit there and talk smack about what could happen, and what we should do........show me where they are hurting anything thus far. the biggest environmental problems I see are all related to large cities and the poor care for the environment downhill from them.....usually on the coast. ( the city of turds rolling right into the ocean)

I will say the policies from Trump have helped the economy, businesses and myself personally. I see no damage to the environment...and lord knows, the liberals would be howling from the trees if one of his eliminated policies created a hazard.

We need to roll them back in NY, I own a lot of property in upstate that I would be fracking the hell out of....and I h**e fracking

so where is the damage? putting the cart in front of the horse makes it pull funny, and to the left a bit.

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Feb 18, 2020 11:23:31   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
Weewillynobeerspilly wrote:
Well now.....how about you make the case they are not worth the glory, anyone can sit there and talk smack about what could happen, and what we should do........show me where they are hurting anything thus far. the biggest environmental problems I see are all related to large cities and the poor care for the environment downhill from them.....usually on the coast. ( the city of turds rolling right into the ocean)

I will say the policies from Trump have helped the economy, businesses and myself personally. I see no damage to the environment...and lord knows, the liberals would be howling from the trees if one of his eliminated policies created a hazard.

We need to roll them back in NY, I own a lot of property in upstate that I would be fracking the hell out of....and I h**e fracking

so where is the damage? putting the cart in front of the horse makes it pull funny, and to the left a bit.
Well now.....how about you make the case they are ... (show quote)


They are not worthy of the glory because environmental policies take years, if not decades, to have effects. We simply do not know what the environmental impacts of the Trump administration policies will have. Grabbing the glory is simply premature. From catalytic converters, banning DDT, higher fuel mileage standards, to scrubbing power plant emission and cleaning water supplies, the impacts (both cost and benefits) play out over long periods. Bald eagles did not recover the year after DDT was banned, nor did urban smog disappear after the catalytic converter was mandated.

I'll concede to the point that giving Obama credit is also premature....but it was just kind of a counterpoint to the topic title.

You are also right to point out that urban areas suffer the most environmental degradation. But before you suggest that maybe liberals should abandon their beloved cities, I would point out that a large portion of the American GDP comes from those areas. It's not just liberals that inhabit urban areas: our corporate culture and it's support staff are also headquartered in American urban spaces. The two go hand in hand. Also, liberals are howling from the trees about the hazards of Trump's environmental and economic policies. Google environmentalists sue Trump administration.

I don't know if you're old enough to remember when some folks couldn't go outside for days at a time, or go swimming in most water, or rivers caught on fire....there were reasons for the establishment of the EPA. While I agree that bureaucracies can get old and stale and I can support reform, the destruction of the EPA is not something I can get behind.

So, no...the Trump administration does not get the glory for this 'green milestone'. We have no clue what the legacy of the Trump administration's environmental policy will be. Since when does this administration care about 'green milestones' anyway?

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Feb 18, 2020 11:25:30   #
American Vet
 
working class stiff wrote:
It's not that hard to make that case.

After all....it is Trump administration policy to deregulate, is it not? And to destroy the EPA.

So I'm kinda curious how Trump's policies have helped the US hit those 'green milestones'.
Make the case.


Not destroy the EPA - but to reign in the environmental extremist that are in it. Example: Using their authority to declare seasonal streams as 'navigable waterways' was ridiculous.

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Feb 18, 2020 21:31:00   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
working class stiff wrote:
They are not worthy of the glory because environmental policies take years, if not decades, to have effects. We simply do not know what the environmental impacts of the Trump administration policies will have. Grabbing the glory is simply premature. From catalytic converters, banning DDT, higher fuel mileage standards, to scrubbing power plant emission and cleaning water supplies, the impacts (both cost and benefits) play out over long periods. Bald eagles did not recover the year after DDT was banned, nor did urban smog disappear after the catalytic converter was mandated.

I'll concede to the point that giving Obama credit is also premature....but it was just kind of a counterpoint to the topic title.

You are also right to point out that urban areas suffer the most environmental degradation. But before you suggest that maybe liberals should abandon their beloved cities, I would point out that a large portion of the American GDP comes from those areas. It's not just liberals that inhabit urban areas: our corporate culture and it's support staff are also headquartered in American urban spaces. The two go hand in hand. Also, liberals are howling from the trees about the hazards of Trump's environmental and economic policies. Google environmentalists sue Trump administration.

I don't know if you're old enough to remember when some folks couldn't go outside for days at a time, or go swimming in most water, or rivers caught on fire....there were reasons for the establishment of the EPA. While I agree that bureaucracies can get old and stale and I can support reform, the destruction of the EPA is not something I can get behind.

So, no...the Trump administration does not get the glory for this 'green milestone'. We have no clue what the legacy of the Trump administration's environmental policy will be. Since when does this administration care about 'green milestones' anyway?
They are not worthy of the glory because environme... (show quote)


Looks to me like you just made the case for us.

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Feb 19, 2020 09:04:08   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
archie bunker wrote:
Looks to me like you just made the case for us.


Hmmm.....have to admit, that response has me stumped. How so? I'd be interested in how you read what I wrote. No fooling...just honestly curious.

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