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Feb 15, 2020 19:34:59   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
The future of America as we know it will be determined this November.

Cuba today !!!! WOW !!!!
Very interesting perspective from a person who actually rode a bicycle through CUBA and really got to see what it is like…
As a 77 yr. old guy who has gone to Europe, Canada, Mexico and now Cuba for bicycle road trips, I thought you might enjoy reading my report of my bike trip to Cuba:

On February 1st I flew to Atlanta, met some friends and we flew to Cancun, Mexico. We spent 4 days there, mostly touring the Mayan ruins of Tulum and Chichen Itza and getting ready for the next part of the adventure. Seven more people flew in and we all boarded a Mexican airline, Interjet, and flew to Havana for a week of bicycle riding in Cuba.

Cuba, where nothing works, including the people. Unemployment is 48% and of those who do work, 8 out of every 10 work for the government. Before heading to the western part of the island, we spent a night in Havana at the Riviera Classic, the finest hotel at one time. 20 stories with 3 elevators, but only one worked. Contrary to what I found in the rest of the country, my shower only had hot water. Turn the knobs all you want, but you only got hot, scalding water.

The stories about the old cars is quite true, but many of those cars are used to take tourists on tours of the city. $30.00 gets you 2 hours in a 1952 Cadillac convertible and you can pile in as many people in as you want. Old Chevys seem to be the most popular and a few are quite nicely restored. They all fell in the 1941 to 1957 range. I saw nothing newer than a 57. By restored, I mean they look good on the outside, but as our Cuban tour guide said, there would not be a V8 under the hood. The original had failed decades ago and with no parts to fix it, other means had to be found. Generally, that involved putting a 4 cylinder Russian made diesel in and making the necessary changes to get it to fit and mate up with an unknown t***smission.

The country is still in the 19th century. Many people walk, but equally as many use horses, both to ride and pull carts. I saw wagons pulled by oxen on the highway. We traveled by motorcoach, stayed in crude motels, and ate in restaurants; all owned by the government. Staying clean was a challenge. In the public restrooms washing your hands was interesting. You need three things to wash your hands; water, soap, a towel to dry Well, the towel was your shirt or pants because there never were any towels. In 1/3 of the toilets, there was no water and in one case, there was a lady standing beside the sink with a bottle of water to pour over your hands. In an equal number of places, there was no soap.

If you thought not having soap and water in the restroom was a problem, imagine not having a toilet SEAT. Yep, no toilet seat and it wasn’t just confined to public facilities. One of the rooms we stayed in had no toilet seat, which was matched by the fact there was no toilet paper. In its place, somebody had carefully torn individual sheets of toilet paper from a roll and placed them on the back of the toilet.

Free health care and education are some of the things Castro brought with his revolution. The healthcare is generally limited to the bigger cities. Our guide told us that a taxi driver in Havana earned more in tips each day than a medical doctor earned in salary in one month. Oh, and the doctor can be arrested and jailed if he attempts to treat people on the side for extra money. Education is free, but the reality is that most people cannot afford to stay in school. Our tour guide was the exception. He completed college and got a Master’s degree in computer technology, but can’t find a job in that field, so he conducts tours.

We visited a tobacco farm, where we had the opportunity to purchase genuine Cuban cigars for $3.25. The farm had been in this man’s family for 3 generations, but only recently had the actual title been put back in his name. The government claimed it after the revolution. After harvest, the government takes 90% of the tobacco, leaving the farmer with just 10% for his “own personal use”. He chose to demonstrate how to hand-roll a cigar, then sell it to tourists. I asked our guide if all farmers lost 90% of their crop to the government. His reply, “Oh no, vegetable farmers only give up 60% of their crop”.

The roads looked like they had been carpet-bombed with huge potholes everywhere. Add that to the very steep hills we encountered and it made for slow biking. While I am no speed demon, one day I averaged just 4.5 MPH as I attempted to find bits of pavement between the holes in the road. In many cases, there was no road, just dirt and when the trucks went past, we were engulfed in a storm of dust and exhaust fumes. A few of the trucks were leftover Russian military vehicles. Personal t***sportation in the rural area was provided by stake bodied trucks. People would stand by the side of the road and climb aboard when such a truck came by. The fare was around 8 cents and you stood packed in the bed of the truck with several dozen other people.

Those on welfare receive $25 a month, plus a ration of beans, rice, and cooking oil. The money came from the Cuban government, but the Russians provided the food. Each month a supply cargo ship docks with beans, rice, and cooking oil sent by the Russians. Speaking of them, the Cuban version of the Missile Crisis is quite different from what we heard in the US.
Glad I went, but have no desire to return. Cuba makes our inner cities look like paradise and poverty is staggering. After two weeks abroad, we flew home and I spent the night in a Hampton Inn at the Atlanta airport, before catching an early morning flight back to Seattle. Took the longest hot water shower ever after having a cheeseburger, fries and two gin & tonics for dinner. I was really glad to be back.

Dedicated to all Bernie Sanders supporters who believe, "Government Socialism" is so much better than "Capitalism.”

You may soon have a choice to make!

Reply
Feb 15, 2020 20:59:20   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
This message you've posted should be carefully copied and framed, then sent to Bernie Sanders, Nancy Pelosi, AOC, Pete Buttigieg (father was Marxist professor), and all the other usual suspects.

Not a one of them would give up their cushy uppercrust American lifestyle for an authentic Marxist/Socialist/C*******t lifestyle.


dtucker300 wrote:
The future of America as we know it will be determined this November.

Cuba today !!!! WOW !!!!
Very interesting perspective from a person who actually rode a bicycle through CUBA and really got to see what it is like…
As a 77 yr. old guy who has gone to Europe, Canada, Mexico and now Cuba for bicycle road trips, I thought you might enjoy reading my report of my bike trip to Cuba:

On February 1st I flew to Atlanta, met some friends and we flew to Cancun, Mexico. We spent 4 days there, mostly touring the Mayan ruins of Tulum and Chichen Itza and getting ready for the next part of the adventure. Seven more people flew in and we all boarded a Mexican airline, Interjet, and flew to Havana for a week of bicycle riding in Cuba.

Cuba, where nothing works, including the people. Unemployment is 48% and of those who do work, 8 out of every 10 work for the government. Before heading to the western part of the island, we spent a night in Havana at the Riviera Classic, the finest hotel at one time. 20 stories with 3 elevators, but only one worked. Contrary to what I found in the rest of the country, my shower only had hot water. Turn the knobs all you want, but you only got hot, scalding water.

The stories about the old cars is quite true, but many of those cars are used to take tourists on tours of the city. $30.00 gets you 2 hours in a 1952 Cadillac convertible and you can pile in as many people in as you want. Old Chevys seem to be the most popular and a few are quite nicely restored. They all fell in the 1941 to 1957 range. I saw nothing newer than a 57. By restored, I mean they look good on the outside, but as our Cuban tour guide said, there would not be a V8 under the hood. The original had failed decades ago and with no parts to fix it, other means had to be found. Generally, that involved putting a 4 cylinder Russian made diesel in and making the necessary changes to get it to fit and mate up with an unknown t***smission.

The country is still in the 19th century. Many people walk, but equally as many use horses, both to ride and pull carts. I saw wagons pulled by oxen on the highway. We traveled by motorcoach, stayed in crude motels, and ate in restaurants; all owned by the government. Staying clean was a challenge. In the public restrooms washing your hands was interesting. You need three things to wash your hands; water, soap, a towel to dry Well, the towel was your shirt or pants because there never were any towels. In 1/3 of the toilets, there was no water and in one case, there was a lady standing beside the sink with a bottle of water to pour over your hands. In an equal number of places, there was no soap.

If you thought not having soap and water in the restroom was a problem, imagine not having a toilet SEAT. Yep, no toilet seat and it wasn’t just confined to public facilities. One of the rooms we stayed in had no toilet seat, which was matched by the fact there was no toilet paper. In its place, somebody had carefully torn individual sheets of toilet paper from a roll and placed them on the back of the toilet.

Free health care and education are some of the things Castro brought with his revolution. The healthcare is generally limited to the bigger cities. Our guide told us that a taxi driver in Havana earned more in tips each day than a medical doctor earned in salary in one month. Oh, and the doctor can be arrested and jailed if he attempts to treat people on the side for extra money. Education is free, but the reality is that most people cannot afford to stay in school. Our tour guide was the exception. He completed college and got a Master’s degree in computer technology, but can’t find a job in that field, so he conducts tours.

We visited a tobacco farm, where we had the opportunity to purchase genuine Cuban cigars for $3.25. The farm had been in this man’s family for 3 generations, but only recently had the actual title been put back in his name. The government claimed it after the revolution. After harvest, the government takes 90% of the tobacco, leaving the farmer with just 10% for his “own personal use”. He chose to demonstrate how to hand-roll a cigar, then sell it to tourists. I asked our guide if all farmers lost 90% of their crop to the government. His reply, “Oh no, vegetable farmers only give up 60% of their crop”.

The roads looked like they had been carpet-bombed with huge potholes everywhere. Add that to the very steep hills we encountered and it made for slow biking. While I am no speed demon, one day I averaged just 4.5 MPH as I attempted to find bits of pavement between the holes in the road. In many cases, there was no road, just dirt and when the trucks went past, we were engulfed in a storm of dust and exhaust fumes. A few of the trucks were leftover Russian military vehicles. Personal t***sportation in the rural area was provided by stake bodied trucks. People would stand by the side of the road and climb aboard when such a truck came by. The fare was around 8 cents and you stood packed in the bed of the truck with several dozen other people.

Those on welfare receive $25 a month, plus a ration of beans, rice, and cooking oil. The money came from the Cuban government, but the Russians provided the food. Each month a supply cargo ship docks with beans, rice, and cooking oil sent by the Russians. Speaking of them, the Cuban version of the Missile Crisis is quite different from what we heard in the US.
Glad I went, but have no desire to return. Cuba makes our inner cities look like paradise and poverty is staggering. After two weeks abroad, we flew home and I spent the night in a Hampton Inn at the Atlanta airport, before catching an early morning flight back to Seattle. Took the longest hot water shower ever after having a cheeseburger, fries and two gin & tonics for dinner. I was really glad to be back.

Dedicated to all Bernie Sanders supporters who believe, "Government Socialism" is so much better than "Capitalism.”

You may soon have a choice to make!
The future of America as we know it will be determ... (show quote)

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Feb 15, 2020 21:06:03   #
Armageddun Loc: The show me state
 
Zemirah wrote:
This message you've posted should be carefully copied and framed, then sent to Bernie Sanders, Nancy Pelosi, AOC, Pete Buttigieg (father was Marxist professor), and all the other usual suspects.

Not a one of them would give up their cushy uppercrust American lifestyle for an authentic Marxist/Socialist/C*******t lifestyle.



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Feb 15, 2020 21:08:35   #
trashbaum
 
dtucker300 wrote:
The future of America as we know it will be determined this November.

Cuba today !!!! WOW !!!!
Very interesting perspective from a person who actually rode a bicycle through CUBA and really got to see what it is like…
As a 77 yr. old guy who has gone to Europe, Canada, Mexico and now Cuba for bicycle road trips, I thought you might enjoy reading my report of my bike trip to Cuba:

On February 1st I flew to Atlanta, met some friends and we flew to Cancun, Mexico. We spent 4 days there, mostly touring the Mayan ruins of Tulum and Chichen Itza and getting ready for the next part of the adventure. Seven more people flew in and we all boarded a Mexican airline, Interjet, and flew to Havana for a week of bicycle riding in Cuba.

Cuba, where nothing works, including the people. Unemployment is 48% and of those who do work, 8 out of every 10 work for the government. Before heading to the western part of the island, we spent a night in Havana at the Riviera Classic, the finest hotel at one time. 20 stories with 3 elevators, but only one worked. Contrary to what I found in the rest of the country, my shower only had hot water. Turn the knobs all you want, but you only got hot, scalding water.

The stories about the old cars is quite true, but many of those cars are used to take tourists on tours of the city. $30.00 gets you 2 hours in a 1952 Cadillac convertible and you can pile in as many people in as you want. Old Chevys seem to be the most popular and a few are quite nicely restored. They all fell in the 1941 to 1957 range. I saw nothing newer than a 57. By restored, I mean they look good on the outside, but as our Cuban tour guide said, there would not be a V8 under the hood. The original had failed decades ago and with no parts to fix it, other means had to be found. Generally, that involved putting a 4 cylinder Russian made diesel in and making the necessary changes to get it to fit and mate up with an unknown t***smission.

The country is still in the 19th century. Many people walk, but equally as many use horses, both to ride and pull carts. I saw wagons pulled by oxen on the highway. We traveled by motorcoach, stayed in crude motels, and ate in restaurants; all owned by the government. Staying clean was a challenge. In the public restrooms washing your hands was interesting. You need three things to wash your hands; water, soap, a towel to dry Well, the towel was your shirt or pants because there never were any towels. In 1/3 of the toilets, there was no water and in one case, there was a lady standing beside the sink with a bottle of water to pour over your hands. In an equal number of places, there was no soap.

If you thought not having soap and water in the restroom was a problem, imagine not having a toilet SEAT. Yep, no toilet seat and it wasn’t just confined to public facilities. One of the rooms we stayed in had no toilet seat, which was matched by the fact there was no toilet paper. In its place, somebody had carefully torn individual sheets of toilet paper from a roll and placed them on the back of the toilet.

Free health care and education are some of the things Castro brought with his revolution. The healthcare is generally limited to the bigger cities. Our guide told us that a taxi driver in Havana earned more in tips each day than a medical doctor earned in salary in one month. Oh, and the doctor can be arrested and jailed if he attempts to treat people on the side for extra money. Education is free, but the reality is that most people cannot afford to stay in school. Our tour guide was the exception. He completed college and got a Master’s degree in computer technology, but can’t find a job in that field, so he conducts tours.

We visited a tobacco farm, where we had the opportunity to purchase genuine Cuban cigars for $3.25. The farm had been in this man’s family for 3 generations, but only recently had the actual title been put back in his name. The government claimed it after the revolution. After harvest, the government takes 90% of the tobacco, leaving the farmer with just 10% for his “own personal use”. He chose to demonstrate how to hand-roll a cigar, then sell it to tourists. I asked our guide if all farmers lost 90% of their crop to the government. His reply, “Oh no, vegetable farmers only give up 60% of their crop”.

The roads looked like they had been carpet-bombed with huge potholes everywhere. Add that to the very steep hills we encountered and it made for slow biking. While I am no speed demon, one day I averaged just 4.5 MPH as I attempted to find bits of pavement between the holes in the road. In many cases, there was no road, just dirt and when the trucks went past, we were engulfed in a storm of dust and exhaust fumes. A few of the trucks were leftover Russian military vehicles. Personal t***sportation in the rural area was provided by stake bodied trucks. People would stand by the side of the road and climb aboard when such a truck came by. The fare was around 8 cents and you stood packed in the bed of the truck with several dozen other people.

Those on welfare receive $25 a month, plus a ration of beans, rice, and cooking oil. The money came from the Cuban government, but the Russians provided the food. Each month a supply cargo ship docks with beans, rice, and cooking oil sent by the Russians. Speaking of them, the Cuban version of the Missile Crisis is quite different from what we heard in the US.
Glad I went, but have no desire to return. Cuba makes our inner cities look like paradise and poverty is staggering. After two weeks abroad, we flew home and I spent the night in a Hampton Inn at the Atlanta airport, before catching an early morning flight back to Seattle. Took the longest hot water shower ever after having a cheeseburger, fries and two gin & tonics for dinner. I was really glad to be back.

Dedicated to all Bernie Sanders supporters who believe, "Government Socialism" is so much better than "Capitalism.”

You may soon have a choice to make!
The future of America as we know it will be determ... (show quote)


I was visiting Cuba about one month before Castro invaded Havana. The People were happy and enjoying life there. The story you just read is true, according to people who fled shortly after Castro landed. To verify this story there are many Cubans who had to flee Cuba. Just go to Florida and talk to them, you will find their stories to be very consistent. Those of you who are backing Bernie Sanders, are likely to be surprised when there is no free anything. There is nothing free nor will there be anything to buy, your life savings will be taxed out from under you. Very soon there is no production, This is not a joke, there will be nothing to buy because nothing is produced. Observe any nation who adopted socialism, you will find them all the same. Back Bernie, who is someone who has no idea what he is talking about or he is the biggest liar this country has ever bred . You want to know and understand socialism go visit Cuba for just one week.

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Feb 15, 2020 21:36:17   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
Zemirah wrote:
This message you've posted should be carefully copied and framed, then sent to Bernie Sanders, Nancy Pelosi, AOC, Pete Buttigieg (father was Marxist professor), and all the other usual suspects.

Not a one of them would give up their cushy uppercrust American lifestyle for an authentic Marxist/Socialist/C*******t lifestyle.


They wouldn't have to because they would be the1% that lived in the big city while you and I pay for it and that's what they want

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Feb 15, 2020 21:38:39   #
maryjane
 
Zemirah wrote:
This message you've posted should be carefully copied and framed, then sent to Bernie Sanders, Nancy Pelosi, AOC, Pete Buttigieg (father was Marxist professor), and all the other usual suspects.

Not a one of them would give up their cushy uppercrust American lifestyle for an authentic Marxist/Socialist/C*******t lifestyle.


But, surely, you understand that none of them expect to give up anything! Giving up things, living on less and less is meant only for the ordinary people, the peons, the serfs, the workers, not them. Thing is, so many of Americans clamoring for socialism, also, do not understand that, when they get the country they are pushing for, they will not be part of the ruling class. The ones having a few million dollars might, maybe, be allowed to serve the upper crust in some lower capacity, but will never be viewed as equals or part of the upper echelon. Today's future global rulers of a socialist world have many hundreds of millions of dollars, even billions, so 10 million is a mere pittance to them.

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Feb 15, 2020 21:42:20   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
maryjane wrote:
But, surely, you understand that none of them expect to give up anything! Giving up things, living on less and less is meant only for the ordinary people, the peons, the serfs, the workers, not them. Thing is, so many of Americans clamoring for socialism, also, do not understand that, when they get the country they are pushing for, they will not be part of the ruling class. The ones having a few million dollars might, maybe, be allowed to serve the upper crust in some lower capacity, but will never be viewed as equals or part of the upper echelon. Today's future global rulers of a socialist world have many hundreds of millions of dollars, even billions, so 10 million is a mere pittance to them.
But, surely, you understand that none of them expe... (show quote)


This is why they need to HAVE to live in one for a year when they come back have a test 1 question is this what you want?????????????

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Feb 16, 2020 12:27:33   #
bahmer
 
Zemirah wrote:
This message you've posted should be carefully copied and framed, then sent to Bernie Sanders, Nancy Pelosi, AOC, Pete Buttigieg (father was Marxist professor), and all the other usual suspects.

Not a one of them would give up their cushy uppercrust American lifestyle for an authentic Marxist/Socialist/C*******t lifestyle.


Amen and Amen you are spot on there Zemirah thanks for that analogy.

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Feb 16, 2020 12:38:01   #
Tug484
 
dtucker300 wrote:
The future of America as we know it will be determined this November.

Cuba today !!!! WOW !!!!
Very interesting perspective from a person who actually rode a bicycle through CUBA and really got to see what it is like…
As a 77 yr. old guy who has gone to Europe, Canada, Mexico and now Cuba for bicycle road trips, I thought you might enjoy reading my report of my bike trip to Cuba:

On February 1st I flew to Atlanta, met some friends and we flew to Cancun, Mexico. We spent 4 days there, mostly touring the Mayan ruins of Tulum and Chichen Itza and getting ready for the next part of the adventure. Seven more people flew in and we all boarded a Mexican airline, Interjet, and flew to Havana for a week of bicycle riding in Cuba.

Cuba, where nothing works, including the people. Unemployment is 48% and of those who do work, 8 out of every 10 work for the government. Before heading to the western part of the island, we spent a night in Havana at the Riviera Classic, the finest hotel at one time. 20 stories with 3 elevators, but only one worked. Contrary to what I found in the rest of the country, my shower only had hot water. Turn the knobs all you want, but you only got hot, scalding water.

The stories about the old cars is quite true, but many of those cars are used to take tourists on tours of the city. $30.00 gets you 2 hours in a 1952 Cadillac convertible and you can pile in as many people in as you want. Old Chevys seem to be the most popular and a few are quite nicely restored. They all fell in the 1941 to 1957 range. I saw nothing newer than a 57. By restored, I mean they look good on the outside, but as our Cuban tour guide said, there would not be a V8 under the hood. The original had failed decades ago and with no parts to fix it, other means had to be found. Generally, that involved putting a 4 cylinder Russian made diesel in and making the necessary changes to get it to fit and mate up with an unknown t***smission.

The country is still in the 19th century. Many people walk, but equally as many use horses, both to ride and pull carts. I saw wagons pulled by oxen on the highway. We traveled by motorcoach, stayed in crude motels, and ate in restaurants; all owned by the government. Staying clean was a challenge. In the public restrooms washing your hands was interesting. You need three things to wash your hands; water, soap, a towel to dry Well, the towel was your shirt or pants because there never were any towels. In 1/3 of the toilets, there was no water and in one case, there was a lady standing beside the sink with a bottle of water to pour over your hands. In an equal number of places, there was no soap.

If you thought not having soap and water in the restroom was a problem, imagine not having a toilet SEAT. Yep, no toilet seat and it wasn’t just confined to public facilities. One of the rooms we stayed in had no toilet seat, which was matched by the fact there was no toilet paper. In its place, somebody had carefully torn individual sheets of toilet paper from a roll and placed them on the back of the toilet.

Free health care and education are some of the things Castro brought with his revolution. The healthcare is generally limited to the bigger cities. Our guide told us that a taxi driver in Havana earned more in tips each day than a medical doctor earned in salary in one month. Oh, and the doctor can be arrested and jailed if he attempts to treat people on the side for extra money. Education is free, but the reality is that most people cannot afford to stay in school. Our tour guide was the exception. He completed college and got a Master’s degree in computer technology, but can’t find a job in that field, so he conducts tours.

We visited a tobacco farm, where we had the opportunity to purchase genuine Cuban cigars for $3.25. The farm had been in this man’s family for 3 generations, but only recently had the actual title been put back in his name. The government claimed it after the revolution. After harvest, the government takes 90% of the tobacco, leaving the farmer with just 10% for his “own personal use”. He chose to demonstrate how to hand-roll a cigar, then sell it to tourists. I asked our guide if all farmers lost 90% of their crop to the government. His reply, “Oh no, vegetable farmers only give up 60% of their crop”.

The roads looked like they had been carpet-bombed with huge potholes everywhere. Add that to the very steep hills we encountered and it made for slow biking. While I am no speed demon, one day I averaged just 4.5 MPH as I attempted to find bits of pavement between the holes in the road. In many cases, there was no road, just dirt and when the trucks went past, we were engulfed in a storm of dust and exhaust fumes. A few of the trucks were leftover Russian military vehicles. Personal t***sportation in the rural area was provided by stake bodied trucks. People would stand by the side of the road and climb aboard when such a truck came by. The fare was around 8 cents and you stood packed in the bed of the truck with several dozen other people.

Those on welfare receive $25 a month, plus a ration of beans, rice, and cooking oil. The money came from the Cuban government, but the Russians provided the food. Each month a supply cargo ship docks with beans, rice, and cooking oil sent by the Russians. Speaking of them, the Cuban version of the Missile Crisis is quite different from what we heard in the US.
Glad I went, but have no desire to return. Cuba makes our inner cities look like paradise and poverty is staggering. After two weeks abroad, we flew home and I spent the night in a Hampton Inn at the Atlanta airport, before catching an early morning flight back to Seattle. Took the longest hot water shower ever after having a cheeseburger, fries and two gin & tonics for dinner. I was really glad to be back.

Dedicated to all Bernie Sanders supporters who believe, "Government Socialism" is so much better than "Capitalism.”

You may soon have a choice to make!
The future of America as we know it will be determ... (show quote)


And Bernie loves the Cuban way of running things.
He's d********g!

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Feb 16, 2020 12:56:14   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
Zemirah wrote:
This message you've posted should be carefully copied and framed, then sent to Bernie Sanders, Nancy Pelosi, AOC, Pete Buttigieg (father was Marxist professor), and all the other usual suspects.

Not a one of them would give up their cushy uppercrust American lifestyle for an authentic Marxist/Socialist/C*******t lifestyle.


Socialism isn’t designed for the rich to suffer! It’s designed to keep the middle and poor people equally managed!

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Feb 16, 2020 16:15:30   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
dtucker300 wrote:
The future of America as we know it will be determined this November.

Cuba today !!!! WOW !!!!
Very interesting perspective from a person who actually rode a bicycle through CUBA and really got to see what it is like…
As a 77 yr. old guy who has gone to Europe, Canada, Mexico and now Cuba for bicycle road trips, I thought you might enjoy reading my report of my bike trip to Cuba:

On February 1st I flew to Atlanta, met some friends and we flew to Cancun, Mexico. We spent 4 days there, mostly touring the Mayan ruins of Tulum and Chichen Itza and getting ready for the next part of the adventure. Seven more people flew in and we all boarded a Mexican airline, Interjet, and flew to Havana for a week of bicycle riding in Cuba.

Cuba, where nothing works, including the people. Unemployment is 48% and of those who do work, 8 out of every 10 work for the government. Before heading to the western part of the island, we spent a night in Havana at the Riviera Classic, the finest hotel at one time. 20 stories with 3 elevators, but only one worked. Contrary to what I found in the rest of the country, my shower only had hot water. Turn the knobs all you want, but you only got hot, scalding water.

The stories about the old cars is quite true, but many of those cars are used to take tourists on tours of the city. $30.00 gets you 2 hours in a 1952 Cadillac convertible and you can pile in as many people in as you want. Old Chevys seem to be the most popular and a few are quite nicely restored. They all fell in the 1941 to 1957 range. I saw nothing newer than a 57. By restored, I mean they look good on the outside, but as our Cuban tour guide said, there would not be a V8 under the hood. The original had failed decades ago and with no parts to fix it, other means had to be found. Generally, that involved putting a 4 cylinder Russian made diesel in and making the necessary changes to get it to fit and mate up with an unknown t***smission.

The country is still in the 19th century. Many people walk, but equally as many use horses, both to ride and pull carts. I saw wagons pulled by oxen on the highway. We traveled by motorcoach, stayed in crude motels, and ate in restaurants; all owned by the government. Staying clean was a challenge. In the public restrooms washing your hands was interesting. You need three things to wash your hands; water, soap, a towel to dry Well, the towel was your shirt or pants because there never were any towels. In 1/3 of the toilets, there was no water and in one case, there was a lady standing beside the sink with a bottle of water to pour over your hands. In an equal number of places, there was no soap.

If you thought not having soap and water in the restroom was a problem, imagine not having a toilet SEAT. Yep, no toilet seat and it wasn’t just confined to public facilities. One of the rooms we stayed in had no toilet seat, which was matched by the fact there was no toilet paper. In its place, somebody had carefully torn individual sheets of toilet paper from a roll and placed them on the back of the toilet.

Free health care and education are some of the things Castro brought with his revolution. The healthcare is generally limited to the bigger cities. Our guide told us that a taxi driver in Havana earned more in tips each day than a medical doctor earned in salary in one month. Oh, and the doctor can be arrested and jailed if he attempts to treat people on the side for extra money. Education is free, but the reality is that most people cannot afford to stay in school. Our tour guide was the exception. He completed college and got a Master’s degree in computer technology, but can’t find a job in that field, so he conducts tours.

We visited a tobacco farm, where we had the opportunity to purchase genuine Cuban cigars for $3.25. The farm had been in this man’s family for 3 generations, but only recently had the actual title been put back in his name. The government claimed it after the revolution. After harvest, the government takes 90% of the tobacco, leaving the farmer with just 10% for his “own personal use”. He chose to demonstrate how to hand-roll a cigar, then sell it to tourists. I asked our guide if all farmers lost 90% of their crop to the government. His reply, “Oh no, vegetable farmers only give up 60% of their crop”.

The roads looked like they had been carpet-bombed with huge potholes everywhere. Add that to the very steep hills we encountered and it made for slow biking. While I am no speed demon, one day I averaged just 4.5 MPH as I attempted to find bits of pavement between the holes in the road. In many cases, there was no road, just dirt and when the trucks went past, we were engulfed in a storm of dust and exhaust fumes. A few of the trucks were leftover Russian military vehicles. Personal t***sportation in the rural area was provided by stake bodied trucks. People would stand by the side of the road and climb aboard when such a truck came by. The fare was around 8 cents and you stood packed in the bed of the truck with several dozen other people.

Those on welfare receive $25 a month, plus a ration of beans, rice, and cooking oil. The money came from the Cuban government, but the Russians provided the food. Each month a supply cargo ship docks with beans, rice, and cooking oil sent by the Russians. Speaking of them, the Cuban version of the Missile Crisis is quite different from what we heard in the US.
Glad I went, but have no desire to return. Cuba makes our inner cities look like paradise and poverty is staggering. After two weeks abroad, we flew home and I spent the night in a Hampton Inn at the Atlanta airport, before catching an early morning flight back to Seattle. Took the longest hot water shower ever after having a cheeseburger, fries and two gin & tonics for dinner. I was really glad to be back.

Dedicated to all Bernie Sanders supporters who believe, "Government Socialism" is so much better than "Capitalism.”

You may soon have a choice to make!
The future of America as we know it will be determ... (show quote)


That's a choice? Actually the future is being decided these days.

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Feb 16, 2020 17:53:36   #
roy
 
Wonttakeitanymore wrote:
Socialism isn’t designed for the rich to suffer! It’s designed to keep the middle and poor people equally managed!


Sounds just like what we have right now

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Feb 16, 2020 18:49:54   #
Armageddun Loc: The show me state
 
maryjane wrote:
But, surely, you understand that none of them expect to give up anything! Giving up things, living on less and less is meant only for the ordinary people, the peons, the serfs, the workers, not them. Thing is, so many of Americans clamoring for socialism, also, do not understand that, when they get the country they are pushing for, they will not be part of the ruling class. The ones having a few million dollars might, maybe, be allowed to serve the upper crust in some lower capacity, but will never be viewed as equals or part of the upper echelon. Today's future global rulers of a socialist world have many hundreds of millions of dollars, even billions, so 10 million is a mere pittance to them.
But, surely, you understand that none of them expe... (show quote)



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Feb 17, 2020 16:07:56   #
promilitary
 
Wonttakeitanymore wrote:
Socialism isn’t designed for the rich to suffer! It’s designed to keep the middle and poor people equally managed!



Right, and since Bernie is wealthy, he will not suffer.....which is his goal, to let the middle and poor
people suffer so he won't have to.
The man is off his rocker.
Socialism is C*******m waiting to come out of the closet.
If he loves socialism so much, let him go back to Russia and stay there this time.

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