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John Kelly defends Vindman: ‘He did exactly what we teach them to do’
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Feb 15, 2020 08:13:22   #
PeterS
 
The former White House chief of staff said Vindman’s decision to escalate his concerns about Trump’s call with Ukraine’s president was in line with military training.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/13/john-kelly-defends-vindman-114801?fbclid=IwAR2SPbaRNIQujHjA5fQepjg-eGtF0SoebT_UqWgGIhe4umkI1RDRRoap4OQ

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Feb 15, 2020 08:18:55   #
Liberty Tree
 
PeterS wrote:
The former White House chief of staff said Vindman’s decision to escalate his concerns about Trump’s call with Ukraine’s president was in line with military training.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/13/john-kelly-defends-vindman-114801?fbclid=IwAR2SPbaRNIQujHjA5fQepjg-eGtF0SoebT_UqWgGIhe4umkI1RDRRoap4OQ


So?

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Feb 15, 2020 08:52:48   #
American Vet
 
PeterS wrote:
The former White House chief of staff said Vindman’s decision to escalate his concerns about Trump’s call with Ukraine’s president was in line with military training.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/13/john-kelly-defends-vindman-114801?fbclid=IwAR2SPbaRNIQujHjA5fQepjg-eGtF0SoebT_UqWgGIhe4umkI1RDRRoap4OQ


“He did exactly what we teach them to do from cradle to grave,” Kelly said at an event at Drew University in New Jersey, according to The Atlantic. “He went and told his boss what he just heard.”

The problem is Vindman didn't "hear" it.....

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Feb 15, 2020 09:24:16   #
Lonewolf
 
American Vet wrote:
“He did exactly what we teach them to do from cradle to grave,” Kelly said at an event at Drew University in New Jersey, according to The Atlantic. “He went and told his boss what he just heard.”

The problem is Vindman didn't "hear" it.....


No one even mentioned he was not on the call ,its was normal for him to be

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Feb 15, 2020 09:54:19   #
American Vet
 
Lonewolf wrote:
No one even mentioned he was not on the call ,its was normal for him to be


He was on the call - he just lied about what he heard.

"On page 316, Vindman claims that Trump "demanded" investigations from Zelenskiy in return for military aid, but that's Vindman's opinion, not fact. He admitted that the actual words spoken during the call don't support that claim: "I think people want to hear, you know, what they have as already preconceived notions." Vindman's damning admission is found on page 256 of the transcript."

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2019/11/18/vindmans_claims_dont_hold_up.html

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Feb 15, 2020 10:34:37   #
DASHY
 
American Vet wrote:
He was on the call - he just lied about what he heard.

"On page 316, Vindman claims that Trump "demanded" investigations from Zelenskiy in return for military aid, but that's Vindman's opinion, not fact. He admitted that the actual words spoken during the call don't support that claim: "I think people want to hear, you know, what they have as already preconceived notions." Vindman's damning admission is found on page 256 of the transcript."

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2019/11/18/vindmans_claims_dont_hold_up.html
He was on the call - he just lied about what he he... (show quote)


All of these back and forth opinions about Vindman's testimony and the testimonies of many of the other witnesses at the impeachment hearings could have been cleared up if the necessary documents and witnesses were allowed to be considered at the trial in the Senate. Trump, knowing he was guilty as charged, would not allow such t***hful testimony. Crazy Trump got away with "murder" and continues his crime spree along with his cohorts at the Department of Justice.

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Feb 15, 2020 10:45:59   #
American Vet
 
DASHY wrote:
All of these back and forth opinions about Vindman's testimony .


There's no 'opinion' about Vindman's testimony - he admitted he lied. Thus no basis for any of it.

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Feb 15, 2020 11:38:09   #
DASHY
 
American Vet wrote:
There's no 'opinion' about Vindman's testimony - he admitted he lied. Thus no basis for any of it.


The Vindman testimony was just one of 17 witnesses who have been interviewed by the appointed committees of the House of Representatives. The panel leading the Impeachment Inquiry found the evidence for impeachment to be "overwhelming" to convict Trump. Picking away at Vindman's testimony does not reverse the fact: Trump his been IMPEACHED.

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Feb 15, 2020 12:26:05   #
youngwilliam Loc: Deep in the heart
 
DASHY wrote:
The Vindman testimony was just one of 17 witnesses who have been interviewed by the appointed committees of the House of Representatives. The panel leading the Impeachment Inquiry found the evidence for impeachment to be "overwhelming" to convict Trump. Picking away at Vindman's testimony does not reverse the fact: Trump his been IMPEACHED.


And acquitted. Back to the Octopod.

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Feb 15, 2020 16:23:03   #
PeterS
 
American Vet wrote:
“He did exactly what we teach them to do from cradle to grave,” Kelly said at an event at Drew University in New Jersey, according to The Atlantic. “He went and told his boss what he just heard.”

The problem is Vindman didn't "hear" it.....

So why did thirteen other people varify it? You're worshiping a false god AV, one who commands you to live by a bunch of lies. You took an oath to the constitution. That should override any lie a lying president says...

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Feb 15, 2020 16:24:05   #
PeterS
 
American Vet wrote:
There's no 'opinion' about Vindman's testimony - he admitted he lied. Thus no basis for any of it.

So when did he admit that he lies? Gota link?

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Feb 15, 2020 16:26:05   #
PeterS
 
DASHY wrote:
All of these back and forth opinions about Vindman's testimony and the testimonies of many of the other witnesses at the impeachment hearings could have been cleared up if the necessary documents and witnesses were allowed to be considered at the trial in the Senate. Trump, knowing he was guilty as charged, would not allow such t***hful testimony. Crazy Trump got away with "murder" and continues his crime spree along with his cohorts at the Department of Justice.

Nicely said...

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Feb 15, 2020 16:33:51   #
PeterS
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
So?

So Trump is a Chicken sh#t liar who is hiding behind the skirts of the Republican party. He wouldn't be in office right now if a couple more Republican senators had some balls. Only one did--one who most of you v**ed for to be president. Ain't that ironic.

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Feb 15, 2020 16:47:46   #
PeterS
 
youngwilliam wrote:
And acquitted. Back to the Octopod.

Oh come now, even you have to understand that that acquittal come via some Republican senators v****g not to hear from any witnesses or see new evidence. Seems like the yellow streak runs all through the Republican party. Had just two more stood up Trump, if not found guilty, it wouldn't be because the evidence didn't say so.

You guys have no balls anymore! Every one of you wears a skirt. There was a time when the Republican party was respected. You had presidents who kept this party together, built the highway system, cut taxes, stood up for injustice--now you are the injustice to be stood against. Ironic don't you think!

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Feb 15, 2020 17:24:41   #
youngwilliam Loc: Deep in the heart
 
PeterS wrote:
Oh come now, even you have to understand that that acquittal come via some Republican senators v****g not to hear from any witnesses or see new evidence. Seems like the yellow streak runs all through the Republican party. Had just two more stood up Trump, if not found guilty, it wouldn't be because the evidence didn't say so.

You guys have no balls anymore! Every one of you wears a skirt. There was a time when the Republican party was respected. You had presidents who kept this party together, built the highway system, cut taxes, stood up for injustice--now you are the injustice to be stood against. Ironic don't you think!
Oh come now, even you have to understand that that... (show quote)


Dim house had their hearing, then passed their findings to the Senate. Senate found the evidence lacking. Should not be that hard for even you.

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