Blame Trump: Failure to use the I**********n Act (Page 2): >>> Final Answer: —That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the...

Sicilianthing

dtucker300 wrote:

You sound like a broken record. You are basically calling for the violent o*******w of the government. What have you done to change things within? Have you ever ran a campaign for elected office, volunteered for government commissions. Served on local committees in government or political parties to reform the error of their ways? Or do you only use OPP as a platform from which to complain about everything you don't like?

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Final Answer:

—That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness… it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.****

Sicilianthing

dtucker300 wrote:

So, since I don't agree with 100% of what you say, I should go away? If you can't stand a few questions about what you think is happening, you must not hold very strong convictions and feel secure that what you are doing is right.

Instead of bashing Trump, why don't you post what you love about the Democratic Party?

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Pass I’m not a democrat or a Republican really, just lean that way...

In this camp we’re done negotiating at the table of compromise that never reverses anything...

Time to Use plan B and C

YOU LOSE !

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

Sicilianthing wrote:

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The people have not given their consent to invoke the I**********n Act nor throw off the government. We have our chance to change the government in November. I never doubted that you are NOT a Democrat. However, you seem to be using some of their's and Alinsky's playbook because you want to also fundamentally change the USA by abolishing the government.

Radiance3

dtucker300 wrote:

The people have not given their consent to invoke the I**********n Act nor throw off the government. We have our chance to change the government in November. I never doubted that you are NOT a Democrat. However, you seem to be using some of their's and Alinsky's playbook because you want to also fundamentally change the USA by abolishing the government.

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My opinion:
The problems here are the gravity of political upheaval of the two parties. I've never seen in my lifetime such worst events happening like this. There is no civility and moral equivalence so damaging that the democrats have engaged in total destruction, wh**ever it takes to gain power illegally.

President Trump has been only 3 years and 1 month in his position. He inherited so much problems that had accumulated over the years. He provided solutions according to priorities that are needed by the people. That is the economic stability and national security.

With time constraints, there are so many more problems needed to be fixed.
The immigration problems have metastasized that are now very difficult to overhaul. It is one of the greatest problems we have because it affects our national security.

The democrats are aiding and abetting those illegal criminals, and even protecting them at our expense. These illegal problems are so huge, and keep on coming. The president had tried his best to contain that. But the border walls are not completed because the majority democrats in Congress would not fund it.

Another problem. The Justice System. The inability of the Justice system to resolve criminal offenses that have paralyzed our country. The democrats have created weapons or tools that destroy president Trump's achievements.

The system is so powerful that undermines the judicial powers, and now the victims become the oppressed and punished, while the criminals are exonerated or acquitted from their crimes. This is the travesty of the Justice System.

These are some of the frustrations of Sicilians, why he believes a constitutional amendment is needed. I could understand the merits of his case, but the methods how to fix is very dangerous, and I'm not in favor of it.

But I think instead of drastic actions to correct, I would suggest for him to help the president provide assistance of ideas, and directions for reforms. I think the president would welcome that. Sici, if you read this, please think about it.

Radiance3

Radiance3 wrote:

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My opinion:
The problems here are the gravity of political upheaval of the two parties. I've never seen in my lifetime such worst events happening like this. There is no civility and moral equivalence so damaging that the democrats have engaged in total destruction, wh**ever it takes to gain power illegally.

President Trump has been only 3 years and 1 month in his position. He inherited so much problems that had accumulated over the years. He provided solutions according to priorities that are needed by the people. That is the economic stability and national security.

With time constraints, there are so many more problems needed to be fixed.
The immigration problems have metastasized that are now very difficult to overhaul. It is one of the greatest problems we have because it affects our national security.

The democrats are aiding and abetting those illegal criminals, and even protecting them at our expense. These illegal problems are so huge, and keep on coming. The president had tried his best to contain that. But the border walls are not completed because the majority democrats in Congress would not fund it.

Another problem. The Justice System. The inability of the Justice system to resolve criminal offenses that have paralyzed our country. The democrats have created weapons or tools that destroy president Trump's achievements.

The system is so powerful that undermines the judicial powers, and now the victims become the oppressed and punished, while the criminals are exonerated or acquitted from their crimes. This is the travesty of the Justice System.

These are some of the frustrations of Sicilians, why he believes a constitutional amendment is needed. I could understand the merits of his case, but the methods how to fix is very dangerous, and I'm not in favor of it.

But I think instead of drastic actions to correct, I would suggest for him to help the president provide assistance of ideas, and directions for reforms. I think the president would welcome that. Sici, if you read this, please think about it.

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PS.
The i*****l i*********n cost tax payers hundreds of billions of dollars annually, multiplied by the crimes they commit that result to hundreds of deaths of our citizens every year, plus the costs of securing our borders. This is one of the most pressing problems that needs to be resolved. This problem has compounded over the years, and now it is very difficult to fix. We must stop I*****L I*********N, and those that are inside must be deported. Democrats are the t*****rs of our country.

Sicilianthing

dtucker300 wrote:

The people have not given their consent to invoke the I**********n Act nor throw off the government. We have our chance to change the government in November. I never doubted that you are NOT a Democrat. However, you seem to be using some of their's and Alinsky's playbook because you want to also fundamentally change the USA by abolishing the government.

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Nope I’m just way ahead of you guys and I know what’s coming.

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

Sicilianthing wrote:

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Nope I’m just way ahead of you guys and I know what’s coming.

Civil war?

Sicilianthing

dtucker300 wrote:

Civil war?

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Nobody wants that but we’re heading there

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

Sicilianthing wrote:

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Nobody wants that but we’re heading there

It seems there are a lot of people who want it. Far-left and Far-right groups.

Radiance3

Sicilianthing wrote:

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Nobody wants that but we’re heading there

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Sicilian, heading where? You are scaring the heck out of me. Please don't do those kinds of radical means. The end results will have no winner but all losers. The means do not justify the ends.

You will regret, perhaps, that's the greatest blunder, you'll make in your life. That process is the greatest assault to our civilization we've built for over 200 years ago. You might have good motives and purposes but the means of doing it is tragic. Please don't do it.

I can understand that there are many areas to fix, and that needs constitutional updates and amendments. But do it the right way.

Here is one way. I believe that you are smart, and have the mental ability to identify the problems and providing solutions. How? It is only thru the Congressional process you could intelligently do this. Congress is the one to amend and change the laws of our land. You know that. Go and run for that office. I don't know what district you are in, but if you live in a Republican district, you could have the chance. If you do that, I promise to help you donate some for your campaign funds. And if you have a charismatic personality in addition to your talent, you will make it. There are many in the constitution articles that need amendments. And Congress is the only place you could legally do that.

Please think it over. Don't be carried away by some of your colleagues or comrades. You must think about it very carefully. Ana Von Rietz could not save your life. I pray God guides you to the right direction. May peace be with you.

Radiance3

Radiance3 wrote:

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PS: I am very serious about this. America, please get rid of all these RADICAL DEMOCRAT ELEMENTS IN CONGRESS IN the 2020, NOV. E******N. It is the only way we could save our country from total destruction, and en route to c*******m. We are INVADED by I*****L A***NS because these radical democrats in Congress are helping them. Unless i*****l a***ns are contained and removed, we will lose our country within the next few years.

Please get rid of them in the 2020 e******n. Democrats are all t*****rs, and treasonous. Aiding and abetting our enemies.

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

Radiance3 wrote:

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Get rid of RINOs and all partisan hacks.

Radiance3

dtucker300 wrote:

Get rid of RINOs and all partisan hacks.

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We need to do that. But the most resistance to encounter are the radical democrats in Congress. If we could have conservative majority, we could pass bills how to start identifying those to be deported. I*****l i*********n has gone to the worst. Is is costing us hundreds of billions of dollars every year, plus the loss of many lives victimized and k**led by these people.

Currently we have about 31 million. Which makes up of DACA, refugees in disguise, and those i******s who created so many babies to claim birth right citizenship. If we prolong this, they are rapidly making babies to claim the birth rights. And we could not just throw them away.

But those hundreds of thousands of Muslims accepted by Obama as Muslim refugees during his administration, we could not deport them. They are legally allowed by Obama as refugees. And they are rapidly making babies. They did that in Europe.

Constitution has to be amended and that require conservative majority to pass. Muslims and illegal are making thousands o babies every month all over the country. We need to stop this as soon as possible. Or else we will have no country left. The opposite could happen once these i******s become the majority, they'll drive us out. They could abuse all kinds of mayhem.

It needs to be done. Why Sicilian is so desperate to using their plans B and C, which is very scary. The constitution allows citizens to that, once the country is out of control.

This is a cliff from the Declaration of Independence.
"That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and t***sient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

This Sicilians basis for this plan B and C.

Congress allowed the problems to compound, because of their political differences. Had they fixed this earlier, we would not face the humongous problems. There will be various challenges ahead with violence once we start the process to fix. It is very dangerous.

Sicilianthing

dtucker300 wrote:

It seems there are a lot of people who want it. Far-left and Far-right groups.

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Divisions grow, so be it.

Sicilianthing

Radiance3 wrote:

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It is what it is and wh**ever’s coming is coming.