Fodaoson Loc: South Texas

Some thought s on Isalm
“So to reiterate – Islam is not a religion because:
1. It is an amalgam of social, political and judicial systems as well as a belief system. It is neither one thing nor the other – Islam is unique
2. Philosophically it is as far from other religions as it is possible to be. It lies beyond nihilism and its morality is inverted.
3. In society Islam functions in the opposite manner from all other religions. Rather than producing peace and social harmony, it sows violence and social disruption.
Therefore, I believe it would be wise to reconsider Islam’s inclusion as a religion at least as far as the First Amendment is concerned. I understand the difficulties with this approach, and I know many have and will reject it, but I also think it is necessary to raise the question about what Islam really is and what it isn’t”
Why Islam is Not a Religion
by Rebecca Bynum (Nov. 2011)
https://newenglishreview.org/Rebecca_Bynum/Why_Islam_is_Not_a_Religion/

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

1. All religions are amalgams of social, political and judicial systems as well as being a belief system. Islam is not unique.

2. No two rrligions are the same... Is there a chart that shows the gradual differentials if various religions? It's morality equates with that of the other Abrahamic religions...

3. All religions have periods of peace and periods of disharmony... Is the author unaware of the Golden Age of Islam?


Was there a question that was left out at the end?

Radiance3

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History recorded Islam has killed 270 million during the 1400 years. I believe that has surpassed by millions now.
https://www.politicalislam.com/tears-of-jihad/

The Christian engaged in defensive wars, to protect the people, and their own from attacks of others, particularly Islam.

E.g. Crusades in 1071 was sent by Pope Urban II, to protect/defend Christians from being killed, raped, and enslaved when the Muslims invaded the Jerusalem during the 7th century. They also destroyed the Jewish Temple, and the Church if Christ, the Holy Sepulcher.

Until now, Hamas continue attacking the small Jewish population. Iran's goal is to totally destroy Israel and take over Jerusalem. That is why Iran wants to get close to Syria, their target is to get into the Golan Heights to totally destroy Israel.

Currently, Europe has rapidly changed each structure and culture, due to the millions of Islam believers that settled there. They multiply so fast, due to Sharia Law allowing their male to marry many. Even here in the US part of NY, and Minnesota, Muslim male are allowed to have many wives to propagate fast. Their object is to control the world for their god.

It appears that Europe has changed its culture, the entire demographic, with frequent violence all over.

Political correctness identified Islam as a religion, but it is a system of government called theocracy, with its belief system embedded with it. Mohammad designed it that way.

During the tenure of Mr. Obama, CAIR was very powerful in the US, and Islam was required a subject taught in the US public school curricula. Yet Christianity was banned to pray. Their reason, was a separation of religion and state. But then if Islam is allowed to be taught in school, therefore, it is not a religion.

The true religion is Christianity. And I don't agree with CD that all religion is am amalgam of many. Christianity is from the Old Testament and New Testament. What ever is written there, is where Christianity came from. No amalgam of many other sources.

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

If one used the same brush to paint "Christian" religions, there would be few ( if any ) left. Christian isn't a religion, it's a category, similar to Catholic and Protestant, and it really depends on who is doing the categorizing.

There are a 1000 different Baptist sects, every religion has more than one iteration, each claiming to be the one true religion. Likewise, there are dozens of religions beneath the heading "Muslim".

Radiance3

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Matthew 16:18-21.

18 And I tell you that you are Peter,and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. 19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.” 20 Then he ordered his disciples not to tell anyone that he was the Messiah.

Jesus ordered Peter to follow His order. That there should be one guidance to avoid various sects and interpretation of the Gospel.

The Catholic Church that Jesus built with Peter, is the Universal Church. And Jesus ordered one guideline to follow under his command. That is why there is the Magisterium, the authoritative teachings of the Catholic Church to avoid various interpretations of Jesus Gospel.

From the written Gospel which is the Holy Bible, there were also practices by the Apostles when the book was not yet written but are still part of the traditional worship of the ancient that has been carried forward. They are called Traditions. There is only One Catholic Church for more than 2000 years ago.

Fodaoson Loc: South Texas

There are at least two catholic churches, (eastern) Orthodox and the Roman Catholic Church. Both claim the apostolic tradition. Protestant churches share roots with the catholic churches and some claim the apostolic tradition.

Radiance3

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We are all Christians with the same God. The source of our Gospel is the Old and New Testament. Some have various interpretations. But Jesus wanted that interpretation consistent, so as not to go astray.

Here is a music for you. Isn't Christ so beautiful?
I cry when I see him calling us.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dresvqIg9nA

Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...

"Islam is and always has been a religion of intolerance, a jihad without an end. Despite the way the apologists would like to depict it, Islam was spread by the sword and has been maintained by the sword throughout its history."

"The word Islam is based upon a military metaphor. Derived from Aslama, 'surrender,' its primary meaning is to make oneself safe (salama) through surrender. In its original meaning, a Muslim was someone who surrendered in warfare."

Islam signifies a peace after violence, or under the threat of it. That is how Muhammad himself used the word. His warning to neighboring tribes is famous: "Aslim taslam, if you surrender, you will have peace."

The Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) is an international coalition of fifty-seven member countries that works to "safe-guard and protect the interests of the Muslim world," in the spirit of promoting international peace and harmony among various people of the world.

Through its annual publication, the OIC unabashedly lobbies against free speech, hoping to silence criticism of Islam.

The fundamental leftist and anti-American claim about our ongoing conflict with political Islam is this: whatever has happened or does happen, it's our fault. We provoked them into it by being dirty Yankee imperialists and by unkindly refusing to allow them to destroy Israel.

Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...

Is Islam unique?

My "brief" response to your three questions/comments, Canuckus,

1. Islam is defined by obedience to Muhammad's teachings and worship of no other god but the one he proclaimed, Allah.

It somewhat resembles the Mormonism of Joseph Smith. Satan recycles his lies, with slight changes.

Although there are as many as 1.6 billion expressions of Islam in the world, Muslims are not themselves Islam.

The answer to what Islam is lies not just in what Muslims practice, but in what Islam teaches.

2. The Qur'an never says, "Islam is a religion of peace, nor do the traditions of Muhammad."

Apart from the first thirteen years of Islamic history, when there were not enough Muslims to fight, Islam has always had an elaborate practice or doctrine of war.

No one can claim that "Islam is a religion of peace," i.e., historically devoid of violence, either in its origins or in the history of the global Muslim community.

3. The lie of an Islamic golden age; The myth of Islamic science is widely believed and taught (even in India), - that there was a golden age of Islamic learning that made a major contribution to science and the arts.

Many inventions have been attributed to Islamic inventors, which either existed in pre-Islamic eras or were invented by other cultures. This is historical revisionism.

That is not to claim that Muslims have never invented anything but definitely challenges the idea that Islam is an ideology that actively encourages learning and discovery.

The intellectual flourishing of the Islamic world came about because the territory under Muslim control was inhabited by millions of people representing diverse cultures and languages, not because of the religion that ruled over them.

This "golden" period in question largely coincides with the second dynasty of the Caliphate or Islamic Empire, that of the Abbasids, named after Muhammad’s uncle Abbas, who succeeded the Umayyads and ascended to the Caliphate in 750 AD. They moved the capital city to Baghdad, absorbed much of the Syrian and Persian culture as well as Persian methods of government, and ushered in the "golden age."

A number of medieval thinkers and scientists living under Islamic rule, by no means all of them "Muslims" either nominally or substantially, played a useful role of transmitting Greek, Hindu, and other pre-Islamic fruits of knowledge to Westerners. They contributed to making Aristotle known in Christian Europe. But in doing this, they were but transmitting what they themselves had received from non-Muslim sources.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Literally every religion requires obedience to the states "god" and "prophets" of that religion...



A joke?

The term "Islam" literally refers to peace..

There are no religions of peace... Any time enough followers arise, warfare soon follows...



Right....

This describes every golden Age... If one wishes to be picky...

Fodaoson Loc: South Texas

The Arabic word salaam (سلام) ("peace") originates from the same root as the word Islam. One Islamic interpretation is that individual personal peace is attained by utterly submitting to Allah.

Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall

Correct...

The concept isn't any different from most faiths..

Armageddun Loc: The show me state

Amen