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Feb 12, 2020 10:06:23   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
For years the left has basically said it’s our fault terrorists have hated us. Of course they blame the war on terror. As if the Taliban, Al- Qaeda, Hamas, and Hezbollah, would all be home reading home and garden and just abusing their wives kids and goats as usual. Remember we are the Great Satan. So Mayor Pete fans, knowing the Muslim culture as we do, just what do you think the Muslim countries will think of us if God forbid Mayor Pete and the First Dude end up in the White House?

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Feb 12, 2020 11:55:40   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
JFlorio wrote:
For years the left has basically said it’s our fault terrorists have hated us. Of course they blame the war on terror. As if the Taliban, Al- Qaeda, Hamas, and Hezbollah, would all be home reading home and garden and just abusing their wives kids and goats as usual. Remember we are the Great Satan. So Mayor Pete fans, knowing the Muslim culture as we do, just what do you think the Muslim countries will think of us if God forbid Mayor Pete and the First Dude end up in the White House?


I wonder if you and I were devout, not radical, Muslims what we would call a nation that exports pornography as voluminous as we do, who legitimizes every sexual deviance imaginable,including choosing one of dozens of gender identities - changeable on a whim - and who is the largest consumer of illegal drugs in the world? I'm a devout Christian and I recognize how Satanic we've become in my lifetime and so have many others. I don't like to admit it's true neither can I deny and hide my head in the sand and pretend it's not True. I don't have to be a devout Muslim to grasp what's obvious.

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Feb 12, 2020 11:57:42   #
Big dog
 
padremike wrote:
I wonder if you and I were devout, not radical, Muslims what we would call a nation that exports pornography as voluminous as we do, who legitimizes every sexual deviance imaginable,including choosing one of dozens of gender identities - changeable on a whim - and who is the largest consumer of illegal drugs in the world? I'm a devout Christian and I recognize how Satanic we've become in my lifetime and so have many others. I don't like to admit it's true neither can I deny and hide my head in the sand and pretend it's not True. I don't have to be a devout Muslim to grasp what's obvious.
I wonder if you and I were devout, not radical, Mu... (show quote)


Well put.

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Feb 12, 2020 11:59:26   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
padremike wrote:
I wonder if you and I were devout, not radical, Muslims what we would call a nation that exports pornography as voluminous as we do, who legitimizes every sexual deviance imaginable,including choosing one of dozens of gender identities - changeable on a whim - and who is the largest consumer of illegal drugs in the world? I'm a devout Christian and I recognize how Satanic we've become in my lifetime and so have many others. I don't like to admit it's true neither can I deny and hide my head in the sand and pretend it's not True. I don't have to be a devout Muslim to grasp what's obvious.
I wonder if you and I were devout, not radical, Mu... (show quote)


That's true. However we do not use our religious views to subjugate or attack others. I pray the unbelievers find Christ.

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Feb 12, 2020 12:28:57   #
Realistic
 
JFlorio wrote:
That's true. However we do not use our religious views to subjugate or attack others. I pray the unbelievers find Christ.


Christians have been attacking since the beginning of time..

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Feb 12, 2020 12:32:16   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Realistic wrote:
Christians have been attacking since the beginning of time..


Really? Attacking who with what? I belong to a six thousand member Church. We haven't attacked anyone. Don't care who attacked who thousands of years ago. We've evolved. Unless, of course you're a lefty.

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Feb 12, 2020 12:46:44   #
Realistic
 
JFlorio wrote:
Really? Attacking who with what? I belong to a six thousand member Church. We haven't attacked anyone. Don't care who attacked who thousands of years ago. We've evolved. Unless, of course you're a lefty.


lefty rofl
no actually in this day and age I use both hands to write. We have evolved.
attacking with words would be a start, judgmental, 6 hale marys and im absolved of all my indiscretions.
harmonious, in the eyes of the lord is a tall order for anyone. for all time, and anyone who preaches they are, is stretching the truth a weeee bit.

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Feb 12, 2020 12:52:45   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Realistic wrote:
lefty rofl
no actually in this day and age I use both hands to write. We have evolved.
attacking with words would be a start, judgmental, 6 hale marys and im absolved of all my indiscretions.
harmonious, in the eyes of the lord is a tall order for anyone. for all time, and anyone who preaches they are, is stretching the truth a weeee bit.


Nice avoidance of the question I asked. Go say some more Hail Mary's.

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Feb 12, 2020 13:12:01   #
Realistic
 
JFlorio wrote:
Nice avoidance of the question I asked. Go say some more Hail Mary's.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_and_violence

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Feb 12, 2020 13:33:26   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Realistic wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_and_violence


Figured you're so dumb you'd have to go back to the Crusades. Which, by the way were a response to Muslim aggression. Could you possibly keep the debate in the context of the near past?

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Feb 13, 2020 15:33:23   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
Realistic wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_and_violence


If you're going to go back 2000 yrs in time when you could kill someone and walk away, of course, there was violence IT WAS A VIOLENT era. Grow up

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Feb 13, 2020 15:42:36   #
Realistic
 
MURDER, RAPE, CHILD EXPLOTATION, IS LITTLE CHANGED, RIGHT UP TO 5 MINUTES AGO.

BY ALL RELIGIOUS CLASSES.

ETHNIC CLASSES

COUNTRIES

You missed the news the last 50 years?

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Feb 13, 2020 17:03:52   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Realistic wrote:
MURDER, RAPE, CHILD EXPLOTATION, IS LITTLE CHANGED, RIGHT UP TO 5 MINUTES AGO.

BY ALL RELIGIOUS CLASSES.

ETHNIC CLASSES

COUNTRIES

You missed the news the last 50 years?


I guess I missed the point you're trying to make. If you're trying to convince us that all mankind sins I think those with an informed conscience are painfully aware of this Truth. If you're trying to blame religion for mankind's sinful behavior you're painfully misinformed. Fix the blame where it belongs on the man not the teachings of his faith. The atheist has got to blame something or someone so they blame people of faith. How confident huh?

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Feb 13, 2020 18:05:23   #
Realistic
 
padremike wrote:
I guess I missed the point you're trying to make. If you're trying to convince us that all mankind sins I think those with an informed conscience are painfully aware of this Truth. If you're trying to blame religion for mankind's sinful behavior you're painfully misinformed. Fix the blame where it belongs on the man not the teachings of his faith. The atheist has got to blame something or someone so they blame people of faith. How confident huh?


My faith is iron clad, engrained in every cell in my body

Driving home tonight, ill see the faith and or lack of faith all around me, some religious people, some not, greed, is rampant.

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Feb 13, 2020 18:52:40   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Realistic wrote:
Christians have been attacking since the beginning of time..
Lemme clear this up.

There were no Christians at the beginning of time. There were no Christians anywhere near the beginning of time. There were no Christians in the Old Testament. There were no Christians in the time of Jesus.

There are Disciples of Christ and then there are Christians. What the world needs is more Disciples of Christ.

Strange, isn't it, that the fastest growing Christian churches in the world are in Iran and China.

In Iran, Muslim conversions to Christianity have been on the rise for some time, but just last year, Iranian women began a "Disciples of Christ" movement unprecedented in an Islamic country.

“The Iranian awakening is a rapidly-reproducing discipleship movement that owns no property, no buildings, has no budget, no 501c3 status or any identifier that the church in the west says you must have, and is predominantly led by women.”

These women, and the men who have joined them, out of necessity, are following a brilliant strategy in getting the message out. They have moved to friendly countries and, with communication and internet technology, they are making contacts all over the world. They have produced a video documentary in two parts titled "Sheep Among Wolves", Vol I and Vol II. This documentary has gone viral.

I have watched many video testimonials by Muslims who converted to Christianity, they tell us when, where, how and why they came to Christ. These are people who were born and raised in Islamic tradition, their faith was ironclad, it was ingrained in every cell of their bodies. They were immersed in it to the depth of their souls. Most of them had memorized the Qu'ran. Islam was their deeply embedded and gloriously respected world view.

To have that world view shattered by what some Muslim converts called "My Epiphany" was not your ordinary conversion. These were powerful metaphysical experiences, some inspired by dreams, during which these converts struggled mightily to confirm it and to overcome their betrayal of their families and their religion.

These are the kinds of Christians who are Disciples of Christ.

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