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https://www.dailysignal.com/2020/01/14/how-obamacare-made-things-worse-for-patients-with-preexisting-conditions/?utm_source

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jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin

I agree with this article, everything was fine with the ACA until the insurance companies started pulling out cause they were not making enough money. The GOP led House and Senate had 7 yrs under the Obama administration to help fix the ACA. but spent there time trying to repeal it instead of fixing it. Tell me please why haven't the GOP come up with a plan to either fix the ACA or replace it. Now under Trump's administration it has been more of the same weaken it but no plans on anything to replace it.
You would think in ten yrs the GOP could come up with replacement plan?

bggamers Loc: georgia

I was on it for a short time so I could retire early found a platinum plan for 250 a month was able to afford that on social security. I went to pay at the beginning of my 4th month and was told I owed 475 when I asked why they said there had been an across the board rise in rates.I told them to shut it down and had to go back to work full time. Then they made me pay back the money they said the governments portion to the tune of 1500 dollars really pissed me off

debeda

Those were not my take away from the article.

debeda

WTH?!

bggamers Loc: georgia

My take was the insurance company's had to scramble to fit into this government-mandated health coverage my take the cost put most out of business several of the really big companies bought out smaller ones going under. This whole thing was never expected to float they knew that when they pushed it through. Obama or one of his people said people are stupid they will go for it and we did

debeda

Absolutely. And my other take was it was politicized to the max, and attention was steered away from the original purpose. Which was to put "medical welfare" on the direct pay backs of working Americans so the government had more of our taxpayer dollars to spend as they please. This caused the sharp rise in cost for medical care for those who pay. The mandate caused competition to ease and prices to rise as well. The smaller companies that were more rigorous in their underwriting to keep costs down couldn't survive at all.

bggamers Loc: georgia

Look up Nov 2014 article on Washington post writer Llya Somin/Key architect of Obama care admitted that it passed by exploiting political ignorance and also an article on The New Republic by Jonathan Cohn Nov 2014 (What Jon Guber's quotes really tell us about Obama care ) apparently the affordable care act passed by (THE STUPIDITY OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE) who fell for all BS the politicians were throwing out

debeda

Like so.much else

bggamers Loc: georgia

you got it

woodguru

Your take may be incorrect, what screwed the system up was the mandate requiring people to have at least a minimal tier level of insurance. What floats lower rates for insurance companies is a larger pool of people who are less prone to the more expensive healthcare demands. What is soaking the system more than anything is third party players and exorbitant rates for drugs and procedures, the second k**ler is the stranglehold the industry has on the government in regard to prices, which passes on to people as well...and the third cost k**ler was/is refusing to implement tens of billions of fraud and waste oversight in the healthcare industry. There were oversight plans designed to save billions and billions of dollars that the GOP refused to fund and implement when the ACA passed, they couldn't stop it so they undermined it with a vengeance. The GOP intentionally went after every trick possible to undermine and sabotage it because McConnell had vowed that they would allow Obama no successes. I am referring to an oversight agency that needed $150 million that was going to save billions and billions, I can still hear the right and their dim witted rhetoric, my favorite being "we can't afford another $150 million and bigger government", the stupidity of that concept that we can't afford to spend a hundred and fifty million to save eight billion? That is some seriously stupid logic right there. I don't think there would be one person out of a hundred even on the right that could defend that one.

Here's an article talking about how copays can be vastly more expensive than the actual cost of drugs. Another direct pay that could save thousands of dollars a visit is direct pay to urgent care clinics.

https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/482164-the-advantage-of-paying-for-medical-care-directly

bggamers Loc: georgia

Go back to one of my previous post I gave some articles to read they are very educational from the creator of Obama Care

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EmilyD

Republicans' seven-year quest to repeal Obamacare ground to a halt on Friday, July 27, 2017 when Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) approached the podium in the Senate chamber, raised his arm, and gave the clerk a thumbs down.

Obamacare repeal was, for the foreseeable future, dead.

The simplest explanation of why Obamacare repeal failed is that McCain’s v**e - coupled with longstanding opposition from Sens. Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) and Susan Collins (R-ME) - meant that the Health Care Freedom Act could not move through the chamber. Chalk the failure up to RINOS who v**ed against repealing it because they didn't like Trump....not because they were thinking of the good of the people.

debeda

Sad but true. And what do elected officials care? THEY, their families and their staff are not required to be a part of the fiasco.