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Feb 6, 2020 20:16:09   #
rumitoid
 
In what has always been an event to promote bipartisanship and unity, Trump makes the National Prayer Breakfast an act of petty vengeance, d******eness, and h**e, self-serving and mean-spirited in nature. And doubts the efficacy of the Beatitudes.

In his Sermon on the Mount, Jesus gave his followers a set of counterintuitive teachings, telling them that the meek will inherit the earth, to be glad when people persecute them, to turn the other cheek and, most importantly, to love their enemies.
 
President Donald Trump, a self-described Presbyterian, is having a tough time following that last command.

During Thursday’s National Prayer Breakfast, Trump used his time at the lectern to condemn the impeachment proceedings, rally for his own ree******n and disparage the sincerity of his opponents’ faith. The president’s speech at the Washington Hilton hotel was a jarring departure from the tone set by other speakers at an annual event that traditionally seeks to promote bipartisanship and unity.

Trump spoke shortly after a keynote delivered by Arthur Brooks, a Harvard professor and president of a conservative think tank, who lamented the country’s increasing polarization. 

“Some people say we need more civility and tolerance. I say, nonsense,” Brooks said. “Why? Because civility and tolerance are a low standard. Jesus didn’t say, ‘Tolerate your enemies.’ He said, ‘Love your enemies.’ Answer hatred with love.”

Brooks asked members of the audience to raise their hands if they loved someone whom they disagreed with politically. Hands shot up around the room, but Trump didn’t raise his, according to the Religion News Service.
Moments later, the president got the chance to share his thoughts out loud and he publicly wrestled with a core Christian teaching.

“Arthur, I don’t know if I agree with you,” Trump said as he took the microphone.

“As everybody knows, my family, our great country and your president have been put through a terrible ordeal by some very dishonest and corrupt people,” Trump said. “They have done everything possible to destroy us and, by so doing, very badly hurt our nation.”

The president lashed out at Utah Sen. Mitt Romney, who broke with his Republican colleagues on Wednesday by v****g to convict Trump of abuse of power. The president attacked Romney for pointing to his faith as a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to explain his v**e. 

“I don’t like people who use their faith as justification for doing what they know is wrong,” Trump said.
The president also seemed to take a jab at House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), a Catholic who has said she often prays for Trump.

“Nor do I like people who say, ‘I pray for you,’ when they know that that’s not so,” Trump said. 
Near the end of his speech, the president appeared to return to Brooks’ challenge to “love your enemies,” pointing out that religious people are sometimes guilty of h**e.

“I’m sorry. I apologize. I’m trying to learn. It’s not easy. It’s not easy,” he said, prompting laughter in the audience. “When they impeach you for nothing, then you’re supposed to like them? It’s not easy, folks. I do my best.” 

Trump was very publicly wrestling with core Christian teaching. It’s not the first time he’s done so. During his 2016 e******n campaign, he was repeatedly asked if he repented his sins, something many Christians believe is a key part of their spiritual journey. At first, Trump said he doesn’t ask God for forgiveness. He later said he does seek forgiveness but hopes he doesn’t have to do it often.

Despite his shifting theological positions and other moral missteps, Trump still enjoys strong support from his conservative Christian base, particularly from white evangelical Protestants who are thrilled by his defense of issues important to them. 

On Thursday, he warned attendees at the National Prayer Breakfast that “certain religions in particular” are “under siege.” 

“We won’t let that happen. We are going to protect our religions. We are going to protect Christianity,” he said. “We are going to protect our great ministers and pastors and rabbis and all of the people that we so cherish and that we so respect.”

The Rev. James Martin, editor at large of the Catholic magazine America, called Trump’s speech “d********g,” “self-serving” and “mean-spirited.”

“At the heart of the believer’s relationship with God is a profound humility before the Lord. And at the heart of the Christian’s relationship with Jesus Christ is a profound reverence for his teachings, including, ‘Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,’” Martin wrote on Twitter.
“The last place that one should flaunt one’s vanity or ignore Jesus’s teachings is in the setting of prayer,” Martin added. 

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Feb 6, 2020 20:33:45   #
Lonewolf
 
rumitoid wrote:
In what has always been an event to promote bipartisanship and unity, Trump makes the National Prayer Breakfast an act of petty vengeance, d******eness, and h**e, self-serving and mean-spirited in nature. And doubts the efficacy of the Beatitudes.

In his Sermon on the Mount, Jesus gave his followers a set of counterintuitive teachings, telling them that the meek will inherit the earth, to be glad when people persecute them, to turn the other cheek and, most importantly, to love their enemies.
 
President Donald Trump, a self-described Presbyterian, is having a tough time following that last command.

During Thursday’s National Prayer Breakfast, Trump used his time at the lectern to condemn the impeachment proceedings, rally for his own ree******n and disparage the sincerity of his opponents’ faith. The president’s speech at the Washington Hilton hotel was a jarring departure from the tone set by other speakers at an annual event that traditionally seeks to promote bipartisanship and unity.

Trump spoke shortly after a keynote delivered by Arthur Brooks, a Harvard professor and president of a conservative think tank, who lamented the country’s increasing polarization. 

“Some people say we need more civility and tolerance. I say, nonsense,” Brooks said. “Why? Because civility and tolerance are a low standard. Jesus didn’t say, ‘Tolerate your enemies.’ He said, ‘Love your enemies.’ Answer hatred with love.”

Brooks asked members of the audience to raise their hands if they loved someone whom they disagreed with politically. Hands shot up around the room, but Trump didn’t raise his, according to the Religion News Service.
Moments later, the president got the chance to share his thoughts out loud and he publicly wrestled with a core Christian teaching.

“Arthur, I don’t know if I agree with you,” Trump said as he took the microphone.

“As everybody knows, my family, our great country and your president have been put through a terrible ordeal by some very dishonest and corrupt people,” Trump said. “They have done everything possible to destroy us and, by so doing, very badly hurt our nation.”

The president lashed out at Utah Sen. Mitt Romney, who broke with his Republican colleagues on Wednesday by v****g to convict Trump of abuse of power. The president attacked Romney for pointing to his faith as a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to explain his v**e. 

“I don’t like people who use their faith as justification for doing what they know is wrong,” Trump said.
The president also seemed to take a jab at House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), a Catholic who has said she often prays for Trump.

“Nor do I like people who say, ‘I pray for you,’ when they know that that’s not so,” Trump said. 
Near the end of his speech, the president appeared to return to Brooks’ challenge to “love your enemies,” pointing out that religious people are sometimes guilty of h**e.

“I’m sorry. I apologize. I’m trying to learn. It’s not easy. It’s not easy,” he said, prompting laughter in the audience. “When they impeach you for nothing, then you’re supposed to like them? It’s not easy, folks. I do my best.” 

Trump was very publicly wrestling with core Christian teaching. It’s not the first time he’s done so. During his 2016 e******n campaign, he was repeatedly asked if he repented his sins, something many Christians believe is a key part of their spiritual journey. At first, Trump said he doesn’t ask God for forgiveness. He later said he does seek forgiveness but hopes he doesn’t have to do it often.

Despite his shifting theological positions and other moral missteps, Trump still enjoys strong support from his conservative Christian base, particularly from white evangelical Protestants who are thrilled by his defense of issues important to them. 

On Thursday, he warned attendees at the National Prayer Breakfast that “certain religions in particular” are “under siege.” 

“We won’t let that happen. We are going to protect our religions. We are going to protect Christianity,” he said. “We are going to protect our great ministers and pastors and rabbis and all of the people that we so cherish and that we so respect.”

The Rev. James Martin, editor at large of the Catholic magazine America, called Trump’s speech “d********g,” “self-serving” and “mean-spirited.”

“At the heart of the believer’s relationship with God is a profound humility before the Lord. And at the heart of the Christian’s relationship with Jesus Christ is a profound reverence for his teachings, including, ‘Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,’” Martin wrote on Twitter.
“The last place that one should flaunt one’s vanity or ignore Jesus’s teachings is in the setting of prayer,” Martin added. 
In what has always been an event to promote bipart... (show quote)


IM for the video of trump chasing Paula whit around he oval office what happened to separation of church and state ? HE could of got jim baker for free as long as he could sell his made for tv crap.

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Feb 6, 2020 20:34:17   #
Liberty Tree
 
rumitoid wrote:
In what has always been an event to promote bipartisanship and unity, Trump makes the National Prayer Breakfast an act of petty vengeance, d******eness, and h**e, self-serving and mean-spirited in nature. And doubts the efficacy of the Beatitudes.

In his Sermon on the Mount, Jesus gave his followers a set of counterintuitive teachings, telling them that the meek will inherit the earth, to be glad when people persecute them, to turn the other cheek and, most importantly, to love their enemies.
 
President Donald Trump, a self-described Presbyterian, is having a tough time following that last command.

During Thursday’s National Prayer Breakfast, Trump used his time at the lectern to condemn the impeachment proceedings, rally for his own ree******n and disparage the sincerity of his opponents’ faith. The president’s speech at the Washington Hilton hotel was a jarring departure from the tone set by other speakers at an annual event that traditionally seeks to promote bipartisanship and unity.

Trump spoke shortly after a keynote delivered by Arthur Brooks, a Harvard professor and president of a conservative think tank, who lamented the country’s increasing polarization. 

“Some people say we need more civility and tolerance. I say, nonsense,” Brooks said. “Why? Because civility and tolerance are a low standard. Jesus didn’t say, ‘Tolerate your enemies.’ He said, ‘Love your enemies.’ Answer hatred with love.”

Brooks asked members of the audience to raise their hands if they loved someone whom they disagreed with politically. Hands shot up around the room, but Trump didn’t raise his, according to the Religion News Service.
Moments later, the president got the chance to share his thoughts out loud and he publicly wrestled with a core Christian teaching.

“Arthur, I don’t know if I agree with you,” Trump said as he took the microphone.

“As everybody knows, my family, our great country and your president have been put through a terrible ordeal by some very dishonest and corrupt people,” Trump said. “They have done everything possible to destroy us and, by so doing, very badly hurt our nation.”

The president lashed out at Utah Sen. Mitt Romney, who broke with his Republican colleagues on Wednesday by v****g to convict Trump of abuse of power. The president attacked Romney for pointing to his faith as a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to explain his v**e. 

“I don’t like people who use their faith as justification for doing what they know is wrong,” Trump said.
The president also seemed to take a jab at House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), a Catholic who has said she often prays for Trump.

“Nor do I like people who say, ‘I pray for you,’ when they know that that’s not so,” Trump said. 
Near the end of his speech, the president appeared to return to Brooks’ challenge to “love your enemies,” pointing out that religious people are sometimes guilty of h**e.

“I’m sorry. I apologize. I’m trying to learn. It’s not easy. It’s not easy,” he said, prompting laughter in the audience. “When they impeach you for nothing, then you’re supposed to like them? It’s not easy, folks. I do my best.” 

Trump was very publicly wrestling with core Christian teaching. It’s not the first time he’s done so. During his 2016 e******n campaign, he was repeatedly asked if he repented his sins, something many Christians believe is a key part of their spiritual journey. At first, Trump said he doesn’t ask God for forgiveness. He later said he does seek forgiveness but hopes he doesn’t have to do it often.

Despite his shifting theological positions and other moral missteps, Trump still enjoys strong support from his conservative Christian base, particularly from white evangelical Protestants who are thrilled by his defense of issues important to them. 

On Thursday, he warned attendees at the National Prayer Breakfast that “certain religions in particular” are “under siege.” 

“We won’t let that happen. We are going to protect our religions. We are going to protect Christianity,” he said. “We are going to protect our great ministers and pastors and rabbis and all of the people that we so cherish and that we so respect.”

The Rev. James Martin, editor at large of the Catholic magazine America, called Trump’s speech “d********g,” “self-serving” and “mean-spirited.”

“At the heart of the believer’s relationship with God is a profound humility before the Lord. And at the heart of the Christian’s relationship with Jesus Christ is a profound reverence for his teachings, including, ‘Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,’” Martin wrote on Twitter.
“The last place that one should flaunt one’s vanity or ignore Jesus’s teachings is in the setting of prayer,” Martin added. 
In what has always been an event to promote bipart... (show quote)


Would you call yourself an example of fine Christian teaching. I hope not. Here is one for you. Get the beam out of your own eye before you talk about the speck in someone else's eye. You liberals disgust me cherry picking the words of Jesus when its suits your purpose or to criticize another with whom you disagree. Do not use his name until you are willing to follow all of his words.

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Feb 6, 2020 20:41:54   #
steve66613
 
rumitoid wrote:
In what has always been an event to promote bipartisanship and unity, Trump makes the National Prayer Breakfast an act of petty vengeance, d******eness, and h**e, self-serving and mean-spirited in nature. And doubts the efficacy of the Beatitudes.

In his Sermon on the Mount, Jesus gave his followers a set of counterintuitive teachings, telling them that the meek will inherit the earth, to be glad when people persecute them, to turn the other cheek and, most importantly, to love their enemies.
 
President Donald Trump, a self-described Presbyterian, is having a tough time following that last command.

During Thursday’s National Prayer Breakfast, Trump used his time at the lectern to condemn the impeachment proceedings, rally for his own ree******n and disparage the sincerity of his opponents’ faith. The president’s speech at the Washington Hilton hotel was a jarring departure from the tone set by other speakers at an annual event that traditionally seeks to promote bipartisanship and unity.

Trump spoke shortly after a keynote delivered by Arthur Brooks, a Harvard professor and president of a conservative think tank, who lamented the country’s increasing polarization. 

“Some people say we need more civility and tolerance. I say, nonsense,” Brooks said. “Why? Because civility and tolerance are a low standard. Jesus didn’t say, ‘Tolerate your enemies.’ He said, ‘Love your enemies.’ Answer hatred with love.”

Brooks asked members of the audience to raise their hands if they loved someone whom they disagreed with politically. Hands shot up around the room, but Trump didn’t raise his, according to the Religion News Service.
Moments later, the president got the chance to share his thoughts out loud and he publicly wrestled with a core Christian teaching.

“Arthur, I don’t know if I agree with you,” Trump said as he took the microphone.

“As everybody knows, my family, our great country and your president have been put through a terrible ordeal by some very dishonest and corrupt people,” Trump said. “They have done everything possible to destroy us and, by so doing, very badly hurt our nation.”

The president lashed out at Utah Sen. Mitt Romney, who broke with his Republican colleagues on Wednesday by v****g to convict Trump of abuse of power. The president attacked Romney for pointing to his faith as a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to explain his v**e. 

“I don’t like people who use their faith as justification for doing what they know is wrong,” Trump said.
The president also seemed to take a jab at House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), a Catholic who has said she often prays for Trump.

“Nor do I like people who say, ‘I pray for you,’ when they know that that’s not so,” Trump said. 
Near the end of his speech, the president appeared to return to Brooks’ challenge to “love your enemies,” pointing out that religious people are sometimes guilty of h**e.

“I’m sorry. I apologize. I’m trying to learn. It’s not easy. It’s not easy,” he said, prompting laughter in the audience. “When they impeach you for nothing, then you’re supposed to like them? It’s not easy, folks. I do my best.” 

Trump was very publicly wrestling with core Christian teaching. It’s not the first time he’s done so. During his 2016 e******n campaign, he was repeatedly asked if he repented his sins, something many Christians believe is a key part of their spiritual journey. At first, Trump said he doesn’t ask God for forgiveness. He later said he does seek forgiveness but hopes he doesn’t have to do it often.

Despite his shifting theological positions and other moral missteps, Trump still enjoys strong support from his conservative Christian base, particularly from white evangelical Protestants who are thrilled by his defense of issues important to them. 

On Thursday, he warned attendees at the National Prayer Breakfast that “certain religions in particular” are “under siege.” 

“We won’t let that happen. We are going to protect our religions. We are going to protect Christianity,” he said. “We are going to protect our great ministers and pastors and rabbis and all of the people that we so cherish and that we so respect.”

The Rev. James Martin, editor at large of the Catholic magazine America, called Trump’s speech “d********g,” “self-serving” and “mean-spirited.”

“At the heart of the believer’s relationship with God is a profound humility before the Lord. And at the heart of the Christian’s relationship with Jesus Christ is a profound reverence for his teachings, including, ‘Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,’” Martin wrote on Twitter.
“The last place that one should flaunt one’s vanity or ignore Jesus’s teachings is in the setting of prayer,” Martin added. 
In what has always been an event to promote bipart... (show quote)


If you believe what you posted......you would love Mr. Trump.

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Feb 6, 2020 20:48:24   #
teabag09
 
rumitoid wrote:
In what has always been an event to promote bipartisanship and unity, Trump makes the National Prayer Breakfast an act of petty vengeance, d******eness, and h**e, self-serving and mean-spirited in nature. And doubts the efficacy of the Beatitudes.

In his Sermon on the Mount, Jesus gave his followers a set of counterintuitive teachings, telling them that the meek will inherit the earth, to be glad when people persecute them, to turn the other cheek and, most importantly, to love their enemies.
 
President Donald Trump, a self-described Presbyterian, is having a tough time following that last command.

During Thursday’s National Prayer Breakfast, Trump used his time at the lectern to condemn the impeachment proceedings, rally for his own ree******n and disparage the sincerity of his opponents’ faith. The president’s speech at the Washington Hilton hotel was a jarring departure from the tone set by other speakers at an annual event that traditionally seeks to promote bipartisanship and unity.

Trump spoke shortly after a keynote delivered by Arthur Brooks, a Harvard professor and president of a conservative think tank, who lamented the country’s increasing polarization. 

“Some people say we need more civility and tolerance. I say, nonsense,” Brooks said. “Why? Because civility and tolerance are a low standard. Jesus didn’t say, ‘Tolerate your enemies.’ He said, ‘Love your enemies.’ Answer hatred with love.”

Brooks asked members of the audience to raise their hands if they loved someone whom they disagreed with politically. Hands shot up around the room, but Trump didn’t raise his, according to the Religion News Service.
Moments later, the president got the chance to share his thoughts out loud and he publicly wrestled with a core Christian teaching.

“Arthur, I don’t know if I agree with you,” Trump said as he took the microphone.

“As everybody knows, my family, our great country and your president have been put through a terrible ordeal by some very dishonest and corrupt people,” Trump said. “They have done everything possible to destroy us and, by so doing, very badly hurt our nation.”

The president lashed out at Utah Sen. Mitt Romney, who broke with his Republican colleagues on Wednesday by v****g to convict Trump of abuse of power. The president attacked Romney for pointing to his faith as a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to explain his v**e. 

“I don’t like people who use their faith as justification for doing what they know is wrong,” Trump said.
The president also seemed to take a jab at House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), a Catholic who has said she often prays for Trump.

“Nor do I like people who say, ‘I pray for you,’ when they know that that’s not so,” Trump said. 
Near the end of his speech, the president appeared to return to Brooks’ challenge to “love your enemies,” pointing out that religious people are sometimes guilty of h**e.

“I’m sorry. I apologize. I’m trying to learn. It’s not easy. It’s not easy,” he said, prompting laughter in the audience. “When they impeach you for nothing, then you’re supposed to like them? It’s not easy, folks. I do my best.” 

Trump was very publicly wrestling with core Christian teaching. It’s not the first time he’s done so. During his 2016 e******n campaign, he was repeatedly asked if he repented his sins, something many Christians believe is a key part of their spiritual journey. At first, Trump said he doesn’t ask God for forgiveness. He later said he does seek forgiveness but hopes he doesn’t have to do it often.

Despite his shifting theological positions and other moral missteps, Trump still enjoys strong support from his conservative Christian base, particularly from white evangelical Protestants who are thrilled by his defense of issues important to them. 

On Thursday, he warned attendees at the National Prayer Breakfast that “certain religions in particular” are “under siege.” 

“We won’t let that happen. We are going to protect our religions. We are going to protect Christianity,” he said. “We are going to protect our great ministers and pastors and rabbis and all of the people that we so cherish and that we so respect.”

The Rev. James Martin, editor at large of the Catholic magazine America, called Trump’s speech “d********g,” “self-serving” and “mean-spirited.”

“At the heart of the believer’s relationship with God is a profound humility before the Lord. And at the heart of the Christian’s relationship with Jesus Christ is a profound reverence for his teachings, including, ‘Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,’” Martin wrote on Twitter.
“The last place that one should flaunt one’s vanity or ignore Jesus’s teachings is in the setting of prayer,” Martin added. 
In what has always been an event to promote bipart... (show quote)


And he was/is totally justified. You are the one on the outside of right and wrong. Mike

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Feb 6, 2020 21:08:07   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
rumitoid wrote:
In what has always been an event to promote bipartisanship and unity, Trump makes the National Prayer Breakfast an act of petty vengeance, d******eness, and h**e, self-serving and mean-spirited in nature. And doubts the efficacy of the Beatitudes.

In his Sermon on the Mount, Jesus gave his followers a set of counterintuitive teachings, telling them that the meek will inherit the earth, to be glad when people persecute them, to turn the other cheek and, most importantly, to love their enemies.
 
President Donald Trump, a self-described Presbyterian, is having a tough time following that last command.

During Thursday’s National Prayer Breakfast, Trump used his time at the lectern to condemn the impeachment proceedings, rally for his own ree******n and disparage the sincerity of his opponents’ faith. The president’s speech at the Washington Hilton hotel was a jarring departure from the tone set by other speakers at an annual event that traditionally seeks to promote bipartisanship and unity.

Trump spoke shortly after a keynote delivered by Arthur Brooks, a Harvard professor and president of a conservative think tank, who lamented the country’s increasing polarization. 

“Some people say we need more civility and tolerance. I say, nonsense,” Brooks said. “Why? Because civility and tolerance are a low standard. Jesus didn’t say, ‘Tolerate your enemies.’ He said, ‘Love your enemies.’ Answer hatred with love.”

Brooks asked members of the audience to raise their hands if they loved someone whom they disagreed with politically. Hands shot up around the room, but Trump didn’t raise his, according to the Religion News Service.
Moments later, the president got the chance to share his thoughts out loud and he publicly wrestled with a core Christian teaching.

“Arthur, I don’t know if I agree with you,” Trump said as he took the microphone.

“As everybody knows, my family, our great country and your president have been put through a terrible ordeal by some very dishonest and corrupt people,” Trump said. “They have done everything possible to destroy us and, by so doing, very badly hurt our nation.”

The president lashed out at Utah Sen. Mitt Romney, who broke with his Republican colleagues on Wednesday by v****g to convict Trump of abuse of power. The president attacked Romney for pointing to his faith as a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to explain his v**e. 

“I don’t like people who use their faith as justification for doing what they know is wrong,” Trump said.
The president also seemed to take a jab at House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), a Catholic who has said she often prays for Trump.

“Nor do I like people who say, ‘I pray for you,’ when they know that that’s not so,” Trump said. 
Near the end of his speech, the president appeared to return to Brooks’ challenge to “love your enemies,” pointing out that religious people are sometimes guilty of h**e.

“I’m sorry. I apologize. I’m trying to learn. It’s not easy. It’s not easy,” he said, prompting laughter in the audience. “When they impeach you for nothing, then you’re supposed to like them? It’s not easy, folks. I do my best.” 

Trump was very publicly wrestling with core Christian teaching. It’s not the first time he’s done so. During his 2016 e******n campaign, he was repeatedly asked if he repented his sins, something many Christians believe is a key part of their spiritual journey. At first, Trump said he doesn’t ask God for forgiveness. He later said he does seek forgiveness but hopes he doesn’t have to do it often.

Despite his shifting theological positions and other moral missteps, Trump still enjoys strong support from his conservative Christian base, particularly from white evangelical Protestants who are thrilled by his defense of issues important to them. 

On Thursday, he warned attendees at the National Prayer Breakfast that “certain religions in particular” are “under siege.” 

“We won’t let that happen. We are going to protect our religions. We are going to protect Christianity,” he said. “We are going to protect our great ministers and pastors and rabbis and all of the people that we so cherish and that we so respect.”

The Rev. James Martin, editor at large of the Catholic magazine America, called Trump’s speech “d********g,” “self-serving” and “mean-spirited.”

“At the heart of the believer’s relationship with God is a profound humility before the Lord. And at the heart of the Christian’s relationship with Jesus Christ is a profound reverence for his teachings, including, ‘Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,’” Martin wrote on Twitter.
“The last place that one should flaunt one’s vanity or ignore Jesus’s teachings is in the setting of prayer,” Martin added. 
In what has always been an event to promote bipart... (show quote)


Hmmm....

He's not perfect...

Stone him?

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Feb 6, 2020 21:09:31   #
PeterS
 
rumitoid wrote:
In what has always been an event to promote bipartisanship and unity, Trump makes the National Prayer Breakfast an act of petty vengeance, d******eness, and h**e, self-serving and mean-spirited in nature. And doubts the efficacy of the Beatitudes.

In his Sermon on the Mount, Jesus gave his followers a set of counterintuitive teachings, telling them that the meek will inherit the earth, to be glad when people persecute them, to turn the other cheek and, most importantly, to love their enemies.
 
President Donald Trump, a self-described Presbyterian, is having a tough time following that last command.

During Thursday’s National Prayer Breakfast, Trump used his time at the lectern to condemn the impeachment proceedings, rally for his own ree******n and disparage the sincerity of his opponents’ faith. The president’s speech at the Washington Hilton hotel was a jarring departure from the tone set by other speakers at an annual event that traditionally seeks to promote bipartisanship and unity.

Trump spoke shortly after a keynote delivered by Arthur Brooks, a Harvard professor and president of a conservative think tank, who lamented the country’s increasing polarization. 

“Some people say we need more civility and tolerance. I say, nonsense,” Brooks said. “Why? Because civility and tolerance are a low standard. Jesus didn’t say, ‘Tolerate your enemies.’ He said, ‘Love your enemies.’ Answer hatred with love.”

Brooks asked members of the audience to raise their hands if they loved someone whom they disagreed with politically. Hands shot up around the room, but Trump didn’t raise his, according to the Religion News Service.
Moments later, the president got the chance to share his thoughts out loud and he publicly wrestled with a core Christian teaching.

“Arthur, I don’t know if I agree with you,” Trump said as he took the microphone.

“As everybody knows, my family, our great country and your president have been put through a terrible ordeal by some very dishonest and corrupt people,” Trump said. “They have done everything possible to destroy us and, by so doing, very badly hurt our nation.”

The president lashed out at Utah Sen. Mitt Romney, who broke with his Republican colleagues on Wednesday by v****g to convict Trump of abuse of power. The president attacked Romney for pointing to his faith as a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to explain his v**e. 

“I don’t like people who use their faith as justification for doing what they know is wrong,” Trump said.
The president also seemed to take a jab at House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), a Catholic who has said she often prays for Trump.

“Nor do I like people who say, ‘I pray for you,’ when they know that that’s not so,” Trump said. 
Near the end of his speech, the president appeared to return to Brooks’ challenge to “love your enemies,” pointing out that religious people are sometimes guilty of h**e.

“I’m sorry. I apologize. I’m trying to learn. It’s not easy. It’s not easy,” he said, prompting laughter in the audience. “When they impeach you for nothing, then you’re supposed to like them? It’s not easy, folks. I do my best.” 

Trump was very publicly wrestling with core Christian teaching. It’s not the first time he’s done so. During his 2016 e******n campaign, he was repeatedly asked if he repented his sins, something many Christians believe is a key part of their spiritual journey. At first, Trump said he doesn’t ask God for forgiveness. He later said he does seek forgiveness but hopes he doesn’t have to do it often.

Despite his shifting theological positions and other moral missteps, Trump still enjoys strong support from his conservative Christian base, particularly from white evangelical Protestants who are thrilled by his defense of issues important to them. 

On Thursday, he warned attendees at the National Prayer Breakfast that “certain religions in particular” are “under siege.” 

“We won’t let that happen. We are going to protect our religions. We are going to protect Christianity,” he said. “We are going to protect our great ministers and pastors and rabbis and all of the people that we so cherish and that we so respect.”

The Rev. James Martin, editor at large of the Catholic magazine America, called Trump’s speech “d********g,” “self-serving” and “mean-spirited.”

“At the heart of the believer’s relationship with God is a profound humility before the Lord. And at the heart of the Christian’s relationship with Jesus Christ is a profound reverence for his teachings, including, ‘Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,’” Martin wrote on Twitter.
“The last place that one should flaunt one’s vanity or ignore Jesus’s teachings is in the setting of prayer,” Martin added. 
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My wife was just talking about this. She wanted to know when Jesus spoke of not forgiving someone or when he plotted revenge? Hey, but Jesus wasn't a Christian was he???

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Feb 6, 2020 21:11:32   #
steve66613
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Hmmm....

He's not perfect...

Stone him?


I’m guessing about this, but, Rumi might already be stoned.

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Feb 6, 2020 21:11:51   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
PeterS wrote:
My wife was just talking about this. She wanted to know when Jesus spoke of not forgiving someone or when he plotted revenge? Hey, but Jesus wasn't a Christian was he???


It humorous to see someone like you even discuss religion.

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Feb 6, 2020 21:51:34   #
PeterS
 
byronglimish wrote:
It humorous to see someone like you even discuss religion.

Oh, not nearly as funny as someone like Trump using a claim to be religious to con 90% of the evangelicals of the country. Back in my day, one could tell a Christian simply by their behavior. Today, if you observe evangelicals you would never know they were Christian.

And just so you know there isn't an atheist in this country who doesn't understand Christianity better than any evangelical in this country. Being a follower of Christ isn't hard to understand. Unfortunately you "Christians" just don't seem to get it...

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Feb 6, 2020 21:56:28   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Hmmm....

He's not perfect...

Stone him?


Did Jesus ever say what to do when you run out of cheeks to turn?

Oh yeah!

He never got the chance!

They k**led him!

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Feb 6, 2020 21:57:07   #
rumitoid
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Would you call yourself an example of fine Christian teaching. I hope not. Here is one for you. Get the beam out of your own eye before you talk about the speck in someone else's eye. You liberals disgust me cherry picking the words of Jesus when its suits your purpose or to criticize another with whom you disagree. Do not use his name until you are willing to follow all of his words.


Is a Christian not to rebuke a brother or sister that errs? It is commanded to do so. Read the other comments from Christians leaders. You want me to be perfect before I can admonish a sinner? The beam is hypocrisy: however, I would never and have never used a prayer breakfast to insult, deride, and be judgmental, especially in such a self-serving and mean-spirited way.

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Feb 6, 2020 21:57:16   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
PeterS wrote:
My wife was just talking about this. She wanted to know when Jesus spoke of not forgiving someone or when he plotted revenge? Hey, but Jesus wasn't a Christian was he???
No, Jesus was not a Christian.

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Feb 6, 2020 21:58:05   #
rumitoid
 
steve66613 wrote:
If you believe what you posted......you would love Mr. Trump.


Curious.

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Feb 6, 2020 21:58:42   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
rumitoid wrote:
Is a Christian not to rebuke a brother or sister that errs? It is commanded to do so. Read the other comments from Christians leaders. You want me to be perfect before I can admonish a sinner? The beam is hypocrisy: however, I would never and have never used a prayer breakfast to insult, deride, and be judgmental, especially in such a self-serving and mean-spirited way.


Only because your sanctimonious self has never been invited......

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