John Bolton's impeachment role shouldn't whitewash his awful legacy: Regardless of how the impeachment drama shakes out, there's an alarming subtext to this narrative: In the span of...

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

Regardless of how the impeachment drama shakes out, there's an alarming subtext to this narrative: In the span of just weeks, Bolton has turned from everybody’s favorite villain to a paragon of integrity — just because he can help the case against Trump. It’s almost as if the last 25 years of bad foreign policy judgment never happened.

We must not forget that Bolton is an uber-hawk who has been wrong on nearly every foreign policy question for decades. His aggression makes former Vice President Dick Cheney look like a wuss.

You may remember Bolton as the man who has made it his personal mission in life to destroy almost every arms control agreement the United States has signed over the last 30 years. Bolton has argued against half a dozen accords and opposes pretty much any agreement that doesn’t result in unilateral disarmament on the other side, dismissing it as weak appeasement. In Bolton’s frame of mind, the equation is a simple one: Why negotiate when you could punch the other side in the face?

You may also remember Bolton for his ingenious ideas for how to deal with other countries.

He's the genius who in 2011 openly flaunted the idea of assassinating Muammar Gaddafi — as if a missile to the head would solve Libya’s problems. In 2012, Bolton recommended finding secular-minded rebels in Syria that Washington could support militarily, politically, and economically in order to kick Bashar Assad out of the p**********l palace in Damascus, Syria. The fact that nobody could tell you with any degree of certainty at the time that Syria would turn into a thriving, peace-loving democracy after Assad fled into exile was apparently a trivial matter.

Or perhaps you remember Bolton as the author of ludicrous op-eds such as “To stop Iran’s bomb, bomb Iran,” a catchy bumper-sticker title meant to attract eyes on his central argument: Let's stop wasting our time doing that whole "diplomacy" thing and just drop a few bunker-buster bombs on the country's nuclear facilities. And don't forget Bolton's brilliant take in the Wall Street Journal advocating for a preemptive attack on North Korea.

None of this even touches on Bolton’s personal traits, which can't exactly be described as endearing.
Accounts suggest that Bolton was prone to hissy fits and righteous indignation when somebody dared to provide an assessment that deviated from his own. At one point in 2002, Bolton tried to get an intelligence analyst removed for pointing out that his position on Cuba’s biological weapons program did not square with the evidence.

The fact that Bolton is now being treated by the liberal media and many Democrats as honesty and virtue personified should not erase his horrible record. The longtime bureaucrat is free to sell his memoir, but we would be doing the public a grave disservice by allowing impeachment to polish his legacy.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/john-bolton-s-impeachment-role-shouldn-t-whitewash-his-awful-legacy/ar-BBZwYe7?ocid=spartandhp

jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho

Pennylynn wrote:

Regardless of how the impeachment drama shakes out, there's an alarming subtext to this narrative: In the span of just weeks, Bolton has turned from everybody’s favorite villain to a paragon of integrity — just because he can help the case against Trump. It’s almost as if the last 25 years of bad foreign policy judgment never happened.

We must not forget that Bolton is an uber-hawk who has been wrong on nearly every foreign policy question for decades. His aggression makes former Vice President Dick Cheney look like a wuss.

You may remember Bolton as the man who has made it his personal mission in life to destroy almost every arms control agreement the United States has signed over the last 30 years. Bolton has argued against half a dozen accords and opposes pretty much any agreement that doesn’t result in unilateral disarmament on the other side, dismissing it as weak appeasement. In Bolton’s frame of mind, the equation is a simple one: Why negotiate when you could punch the other side in the face?

You may also remember Bolton for his ingenious ideas for how to deal with other countries.

He's the genius who in 2011 openly flaunted the idea of assassinating Muammar Gaddafi — as if a missile to the head would solve Libya’s problems. In 2012, Bolton recommended finding secular-minded rebels in Syria that Washington could support militarily, politically, and economically in order to kick Bashar Assad out of the p**********l palace in Damascus, Syria. The fact that nobody could tell you with any degree of certainty at the time that Syria would turn into a thriving, peace-loving democracy after Assad fled into exile was apparently a trivial matter.

Or perhaps you remember Bolton as the author of ludicrous op-eds such as “To stop Iran’s bomb, bomb Iran,” a catchy bumper-sticker title meant to attract eyes on his central argument: Let's stop wasting our time doing that whole "diplomacy" thing and just drop a few bunker-buster bombs on the country's nuclear facilities. And don't forget Bolton's brilliant take in the Wall Street Journal advocating for a preemptive attack on North Korea.

None of this even touches on Bolton’s personal traits, which can't exactly be described as endearing.
Accounts suggest that Bolton was prone to hissy fits and righteous indignation when somebody dared to provide an assessment that deviated from his own. At one point in 2002, Bolton tried to get an intelligence analyst removed for pointing out that his position on Cuba’s biological weapons program did not square with the evidence.

The fact that Bolton is now being treated by the liberal media and many Democrats as honesty and virtue personified should not erase his horrible record. The longtime bureaucrat is free to sell his memoir, but we would be doing the public a grave disservice by allowing impeachment to polish his legacy.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/john-bolton-s-impeachment-role-shouldn-t-whitewash-his-awful-legacy/ar-BBZwYe7?ocid=spartandhp

Regardless of how the impeachment drama shakes out... (show quote)

The New York piece that Schiff's case revolves around is falling apart.
The journalist never put his eyes on the manuscript.
The journalist reported that Bolten had reported to Barr...false.

Including all 17 of Schiff's witnesses, none confirm the claims of Bolten or the journalist.

Because Bolten has highly classified intelligence his transcript is being redacted for it's many releases of classified information.

His manuscript was written by a Ghost Writer

Bolten is seeking a New York times best seller and seeking $$$$$"

There have been dozens of books written by disgruntled previously employed by Trump (Fired) with negative Trump dialogue that has been proven false.

Like the long list of false attacks made by the Democrats, Kavanagh, Mueller investigation, false claims made by women (paid for by the democrats) , dozens of anti-Trump books (debunked). Suddenly The New York times piece is evidence for impeachment is laughable and why would we suddenly give Bolton's manuscript any credibility?
Just show's what a house of cards the house has built to change and influence the 2020 e******n.

Jack

bggamers Loc: georgia

Pennylynn wrote:

Regardless of how the impeachment drama shakes out, there's an alarming subtext to this narrative: In the span of just weeks, Bolton has turned from everybody’s favorite villain to a paragon of integrity — just because he can help the case against Trump. It’s almost as if the last 25 years of bad foreign policy judgment never happened.

We must not forget that Bolton is an uber-hawk who has been wrong on nearly every foreign policy question for decades. His aggression makes former Vice President Dick Cheney look like a wuss.

You may remember Bolton as the man who has made it his personal mission in life to destroy almost every arms control agreement the United States has signed over the last 30 years. Bolton has argued against half a dozen accords and opposes pretty much any agreement that doesn’t result in unilateral disarmament on the other side, dismissing it as weak appeasement. In Bolton’s frame of mind, the equation is a simple one: Why negotiate when you could punch the other side in the face?

You may also remember Bolton for his ingenious ideas for how to deal with other countries.

He's the genius who in 2011 openly flaunted the idea of assassinating Muammar Gaddafi — as if a missile to the head would solve Libya’s problems. In 2012, Bolton recommended finding secular-minded rebels in Syria that Washington could support militarily, politically, and economically in order to kick Bashar Assad out of the p**********l palace in Damascus, Syria. The fact that nobody could tell you with any degree of certainty at the time that Syria would turn into a thriving, peace-loving democracy after Assad fled into exile was apparently a trivial matter.

Or perhaps you remember Bolton as the author of ludicrous op-eds such as “To stop Iran’s bomb, bomb Iran,” a catchy bumper-sticker title meant to attract eyes on his central argument: Let's stop wasting our time doing that whole "diplomacy" thing and just drop a few bunker-buster bombs on the country's nuclear facilities. And don't forget Bolton's brilliant take in the Wall Street Journal advocating for a preemptive attack on North Korea.

None of this even touches on Bolton’s personal traits, which can't exactly be described as endearing.
Accounts suggest that Bolton was prone to hissy fits and righteous indignation when somebody dared to provide an assessment that deviated from his own. At one point in 2002, Bolton tried to get an intelligence analyst removed for pointing out that his position on Cuba’s biological weapons program did not square with the evidence.

The fact that Bolton is now being treated by the liberal media and many Democrats as honesty and virtue personified should not erase his horrible record. The longtime bureaucrat is free to sell his memoir, but we would be doing the public a grave disservice by allowing impeachment to polish his legacy.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/john-bolton-s-impeachment-role-shouldn-t-whitewash-his-awful-legacy/ar-BBZwYe7?ocid=spartandhp

Regardless of how the impeachment drama shakes out... (show quote)

He seems to be their kinda guy lethal/self-center/power-hungry/war monger

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

I actually thought nominating Bolton was one of the worse choices Trump made. The Dems are gonna try to make a big deal out of his dumb book. Problem with that is Trumps team can play video after video of prominent Democrats saying Bolton is a liar and untrustworthy.

Pennylynn wrote:

Regardless of how the impeachment drama shakes out, there's an alarming subtext to this narrative: In the span of just weeks, Bolton has turned from everybody’s favorite villain to a paragon of integrity — just because he can help the case against Trump. It’s almost as if the last 25 years of bad foreign policy judgment never happened.

We must not forget that Bolton is an uber-hawk who has been wrong on nearly every foreign policy question for decades. His aggression makes former Vice President Dick Cheney look like a wuss.

You may remember Bolton as the man who has made it his personal mission in life to destroy almost every arms control agreement the United States has signed over the last 30 years. Bolton has argued against half a dozen accords and opposes pretty much any agreement that doesn’t result in unilateral disarmament on the other side, dismissing it as weak appeasement. In Bolton’s frame of mind, the equation is a simple one: Why negotiate when you could punch the other side in the face?

You may also remember Bolton for his ingenious ideas for how to deal with other countries.

He's the genius who in 2011 openly flaunted the idea of assassinating Muammar Gaddafi — as if a missile to the head would solve Libya’s problems. In 2012, Bolton recommended finding secular-minded rebels in Syria that Washington could support militarily, politically, and economically in order to kick Bashar Assad out of the p**********l palace in Damascus, Syria. The fact that nobody could tell you with any degree of certainty at the time that Syria would turn into a thriving, peace-loving democracy after Assad fled into exile was apparently a trivial matter.

Or perhaps you remember Bolton as the author of ludicrous op-eds such as “To stop Iran’s bomb, bomb Iran,” a catchy bumper-sticker title meant to attract eyes on his central argument: Let's stop wasting our time doing that whole "diplomacy" thing and just drop a few bunker-buster bombs on the country's nuclear facilities. And don't forget Bolton's brilliant take in the Wall Street Journal advocating for a preemptive attack on North Korea.

None of this even touches on Bolton’s personal traits, which can't exactly be described as endearing.
Accounts suggest that Bolton was prone to hissy fits and righteous indignation when somebody dared to provide an assessment that deviated from his own. At one point in 2002, Bolton tried to get an intelligence analyst removed for pointing out that his position on Cuba’s biological weapons program did not square with the evidence.

The fact that Bolton is now being treated by the liberal media and many Democrats as honesty and virtue personified should not erase his horrible record. The longtime bureaucrat is free to sell his memoir, but we would be doing the public a grave disservice by allowing impeachment to polish his legacy.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/john-bolton-s-impeachment-role-shouldn-t-whitewash-his-awful-legacy/ar-BBZwYe7?ocid=spartandhp

Regardless of how the impeachment drama shakes out... (show quote)

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

Pennylynn wrote:

Regardless of how the impeachment drama shakes out, there's an alarming subtext to this narrative: In the span of just weeks, Bolton has turned from everybody’s favorite villain to a paragon of integrity — just because he can help the case against Trump. It’s almost as if the last 25 years of bad foreign policy judgment never happened.

We must not forget that Bolton is an uber-hawk who has been wrong on nearly every foreign policy question for decades. His aggression makes former Vice President Dick Cheney look like a wuss.

You may remember Bolton as the man who has made it his personal mission in life to destroy almost every arms control agreement the United States has signed over the last 30 years. Bolton has argued against half a dozen accords and opposes pretty much any agreement that doesn’t result in unilateral disarmament on the other side, dismissing it as weak appeasement. In Bolton’s frame of mind, the equation is a simple one: Why negotiate when you could punch the other side in the face?

You may also remember Bolton for his ingenious ideas for how to deal with other countries.

He's the genius who in 2011 openly flaunted the idea of assassinating Muammar Gaddafi — as if a missile to the head would solve Libya’s problems. In 2012, Bolton recommended finding secular-minded rebels in Syria that Washington could support militarily, politically, and economically in order to kick Bashar Assad out of the p**********l palace in Damascus, Syria. The fact that nobody could tell you with any degree of certainty at the time that Syria would turn into a thriving, peace-loving democracy after Assad fled into exile was apparently a trivial matter.

Or perhaps you remember Bolton as the author of ludicrous op-eds such as “To stop Iran’s bomb, bomb Iran,” a catchy bumper-sticker title meant to attract eyes on his central argument: Let's stop wasting our time doing that whole "diplomacy" thing and just drop a few bunker-buster bombs on the country's nuclear facilities. And don't forget Bolton's brilliant take in the Wall Street Journal advocating for a preemptive attack on North Korea.

None of this even touches on Bolton’s personal traits, which can't exactly be described as endearing.
Accounts suggest that Bolton was prone to hissy fits and righteous indignation when somebody dared to provide an assessment that deviated from his own. At one point in 2002, Bolton tried to get an intelligence analyst removed for pointing out that his position on Cuba’s biological weapons program did not square with the evidence.

The fact that Bolton is now being treated by the liberal media and many Democrats as honesty and virtue personified should not erase his horrible record. The longtime bureaucrat is free to sell his memoir, but we would be doing the public a grave disservice by allowing impeachment to polish his legacy.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/john-bolton-s-impeachment-role-shouldn-t-whitewash-his-awful-legacy/ar-BBZwYe7?ocid=spartandhp

Regardless of how the impeachment drama shakes out... (show quote)

I still can't get over the fact that those who are castigating Bolton now, defended trump picking him back then.

I'm still waiting for the numerous apologies I'm owed, for the way I was treated here when I warned against Bolton back then. My opinion of him hasn't change just because he's written a book that makes trump look bad.

Tug484

bggamers wrote:

He seems to be their kinda guy lethal/self-center/power-hungry/war monger

Amen

fullspinzoo

JFlorio wrote:

I actually thought nominating Bolton was one of the worse choices Trump made. The Dems are gonna try to make a big deal out of his dumb book. Problem with that is Trumps team can play video after video of prominent Democrats saying Bolton is a liar and untrustworthy.

That was one of his 'not so bright' moves. I'd love to know how that all came about or who came up with this bright idea. Talk about 'oil and water'. Anyone who makes book must have put the over-under relationship in DAYS rather than months.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

fullspinzoo wrote:

That was one of his 'not so bright' moves. I'd love to know how that all came about or who came up with this bright idea. Talk about 'oil and water'. Anyone who makes book must have put the over-under relationship in DAYS rather than months.

I haven't always disagreed with Bolton over the years but the world has changed and Bolton hasn't. How he and Trump hooked up is beyond me.

fullspinzoo

JFlorio wrote:

I haven't always disagreed with Bolton over the years but the world has changed and Bolton hasn't. How he and Trump hooked up is beyond me.

Me too. Trump would have been better off picking someone like 'Rand'.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

fullspinzoo wrote:

Me too. Trump would have been better off picking someone like 'Rand'.

Much more in Trumps wheelhouse.

bggamers Loc: georgia

JFlorio wrote:

Much more in Trumps wheelhouse.

I think when he first got in the white house he depended on peoples recommendations but with time he has started kicking their asses out the door and relyed on his own picks. Good for him

fullspinzoo

bggamers wrote:

I think when he first got in the white house he depended on peoples recommendations but with time he has started kicking their asses out the door and relyed on his own picks. Good for him

There has been a lot of turnover but who cares. If they're doing a lousy job he gets rid of him. (and he doesn't give them a promotion like you know who.)

Lt. Rob Polans ret.

Pennylynn wrote:

Regardless of how the impeachment drama shakes out, there's an alarming subtext to this narrative: In the span of just weeks, Bolton has turned from everybody’s favorite villain to a paragon of integrity — just because he can help the case against Trump. It’s almost as if the last 25 years of bad foreign policy judgment never happened.

We must not forget that Bolton is an uber-hawk who has been wrong on nearly every foreign policy question for decades. His aggression makes former Vice President Dick Cheney look like a wuss.

You may remember Bolton as the man who has made it his personal mission in life to destroy almost every arms control agreement the United States has signed over the last 30 years. Bolton has argued against half a dozen accords and opposes pretty much any agreement that doesn’t result in unilateral disarmament on the other side, dismissing it as weak appeasement. In Bolton’s frame of mind, the equation is a simple one: Why negotiate when you could punch the other side in the face?

You may also remember Bolton for his ingenious ideas for how to deal with other countries.

He's the genius who in 2011 openly flaunted the idea of assassinating Muammar Gaddafi — as if a missile to the head would solve Libya’s problems. In 2012, Bolton recommended finding secular-minded rebels in Syria that Washington could support militarily, politically, and economically in order to kick Bashar Assad out of the p**********l palace in Damascus, Syria. The fact that nobody could tell you with any degree of certainty at the time that Syria would turn into a thriving, peace-loving democracy after Assad fled into exile was apparently a trivial matter.

Or perhaps you remember Bolton as the author of ludicrous op-eds such as “To stop Iran’s bomb, bomb Iran,” a catchy bumper-sticker title meant to attract eyes on his central argument: Let's stop wasting our time doing that whole "diplomacy" thing and just drop a few bunker-buster bombs on the country's nuclear facilities. And don't forget Bolton's brilliant take in the Wall Street Journal advocating for a preemptive attack on North Korea.

None of this even touches on Bolton’s personal traits, which can't exactly be described as endearing.
Accounts suggest that Bolton was prone to hissy fits and righteous indignation when somebody dared to provide an assessment that deviated from his own. At one point in 2002, Bolton tried to get an intelligence analyst removed for pointing out that his position on Cuba’s biological weapons program did not square with the evidence.

The fact that Bolton is now being treated by the liberal media and many Democrats as honesty and virtue personified should not erase his horrible record. The longtime bureaucrat is free to sell his memoir, but we would be doing the public a grave disservice by allowing impeachment to polish his legacy.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/john-bolton-s-impeachment-role-shouldn-t-whitewash-his-awful-legacy/ar-BBZwYe7?ocid=spartandhp

Regardless of how the impeachment drama shakes out... (show quote)

To me Bolton wants to sell more books period. Nothing else oh he's bitter like Mattis and Sanders because the presidency wasn't given to him.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

jack sequim wa wrote:

The New York piece that Schiff's case revolves aro... (show quote)

I said this from the beginning; his "manuscript" won't say what the NYT says it does. Just like Vindman's account of the phone call was false. And if it is being leaked, it's coming from Vindman in the WH. And if the NYT has not seen the manuscript, then it follows that they are getting the "Vindman" version, where a favor is a demand!!

jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho

nwtk2007 wrote:

I said this from the beginning; his "manuscript" won't say what the NYT says it does. Just like Vindman's account of the phone call was false. And if it is being leaked, it's coming from Vindman in the WH. And if the NYT has not seen the manuscript, then it follows that they are getting the "Vindman" version, where a favor is a demand!!

This smells like the twelve women paid by the DNC to make false claims during Trump's campaign 2016.