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Couple of questions for you Trump h**ers:
Jan 26, 2020 14:04:56   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Where is your evidence that other countries wanted Ukraine to fire Shokin?

What other countries has Trump denied or delayed aid to since getting into office?

Why didn't the House want to impeach Obama when he denied lethal aid to Ukraine for 8 long years allowing Russia to invade Crimea and Eastern Ukraine which y'all say is a danger to our national security?

Which presidents in our history have NOT invoked executive privilege?

Shouldn't Pelosi have at least read the whistle blower's complaint or read the transcript of the "call" before announcing an upcoming impeachment based upon those two things??????

Is there ANYTHING in the democrats assault on President Trump that isn't a twist of the t***h or an out and out lie???

How do y'all look yourselves in the mirror considering all that y'all have done to try to undermine an American president??

When candidate Trump lost the popular v**e in 2016, who won the presidency? LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Jan 26, 2020 15:32:32   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Where is your evidence that other countries wanted Ukraine to fire Shokin?

What other countries has Trump denied or delayed aid to since getting into office?

Why didn't the House want to impeach Obama when he denied lethal aid to Ukraine for 8 long years allowing Russia to invade Crimea and Eastern Ukraine which y'all say is a danger to our national security?

Which presidents in our history have NOT invoked executive privilege?

Shouldn't Pelosi have at least read the whistle blower's complaint or read the transcript of the "call" before announcing an upcoming impeachment based upon those two things??????

Is there ANYTHING in the democrats assault on President Trump that isn't a twist of the t***h or an out and out lie???

How do y'all look yourselves in the mirror considering all that y'all have done to try to undermine an American president??

When candidate Trump lost the popular v**e in 2016, who won the presidency? LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Where is your evidence that other countries wanted... (show quote)
don't know don't care--281 more days to go

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Jan 26, 2020 16:09:56   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Where is your evidence that other countries wanted Ukraine to fire Shokin?

What other countries has Trump denied or delayed aid to since getting into office?

Why didn't the House want to impeach Obama when he denied lethal aid to Ukraine for 8 long years allowing Russia to invade Crimea and Eastern Ukraine which y'all say is a danger to our national security?

Which presidents in our history have NOT invoked executive privilege?

Shouldn't Pelosi have at least read the whistle blower's complaint or read the transcript of the "call" before announcing an upcoming impeachment based upon those two things??????

Is there ANYTHING in the democrats assault on President Trump that isn't a twist of the t***h or an out and out lie???

How do y'all look yourselves in the mirror considering all that y'all have done to try to undermine an American president??

When candidate Trump lost the popular v**e in 2016, who won the presidency? LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Where is your evidence that other countries wanted... (show quote)



The EU worked on removing him well before Biden showed and interest...


https://www.ft.com/content/e1454ace-e61b-11e9-9743-db5a370481bc

European and US officials pressed Ukraine to sack Viktor Shokin, the country’s former prosecutor-general, months before Joe Biden, the former US vice-president, personally intervened to force his removal, people involved in the talks said. Mr Biden did not act unilaterally nor did he instigate the push against Mr Shokin, despite suggestions to the contrary by supporters of US president Donald Trump, people familiar with the matter said. 


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All of us were really pushing [former Ukrainian president Petro] Poroshenko that he needs to do something, because the prosecutor was not following any of the corruption issues. He was really bad news,” said an EU diplomat involved in the discussions. “It was Biden who finally came in [and triggered it]. Biden was the most vocal, as the US usually is. But we were all literally complaining about the prosecutor.” 

Ukraine has gotten aid from the US for many years. In 2014 when Russia moved into the Crimea, President Obama stepped up the aid. when Russia began backing the separatist r*******n in the donbass region of eastern Ukraine, Obama stepped it up once more..

The vast majority of the funds, approved with bipartisan support in Congress, has financed items such as sniper rifles; rocket-propelled grenade launchers; counter-artillery radars; command and control and communications systems; night vision goggles; medical equipment; as well training and logistical support.

1.5 billion in aid, but it did not include the missiles of trumps dream as no one wanted an escalation of the conflict.. those missiles now rest in western Ukraine, no where near the Russian tanks.. gathering dust..

What makes you think Pelosi did not read the WP complaint?? Or read the transcript of the call,which was public knowledge..

why don't you grab some rest you orange guy is not going to be removed, McConnell made that clear weeks ago... he will be v**ed back to the street in November and then the courts will pounce on the scum bag..



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Jan 26, 2020 17:43:12   #
vernon
 
permafrost wrote:
The EU worked on removing him well before Biden showed and interest...


https://www.ft.com/content/e1454ace-e61b-11e9-9743-db5a370481bc

European and US officials pressed Ukraine to sack Viktor Shokin, the country’s former prosecutor-general, months before Joe Biden, the former US vice-president, personally intervened to force his removal, people involved in the talks said. Mr Biden did not act unilaterally nor did he instigate the push against Mr Shokin, despite suggestions to the contrary by supporters of US president Donald Trump, people familiar with the matter said. 


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All of us were really pushing [former Ukrainian president Petro] Poroshenko that he needs to do something, because the prosecutor was not following any of the corruption issues. He was really bad news,” said an EU diplomat involved in the discussions. “It was Biden who finally came in [and triggered it]. Biden was the most vocal, as the US usually is. But we were all literally complaining about the prosecutor.” 

Ukraine has gotten aid from the US for many years. In 2014 when Russia moved into the Crimea, President Obama stepped up the aid. when Russia began backing the separatist r*******n in the donbass region of eastern Ukraine, Obama stepped it up once more..

The vast majority of the funds, approved with bipartisan support in Congress, has financed items such as sniper rifles; rocket-propelled grenade launchers; counter-artillery radars; command and control and communications systems; night vision goggles; medical equipment; as well training and logistical support.

1.5 billion in aid, but it did not include the missiles of trumps dream as no one wanted an escalation of the conflict.. those missiles now rest in western Ukraine, no where near the Russian tanks.. gathering dust..

What makes you think Pelosi did not read the WP complaint?? Or read the transcript of the call,which was public knowledge..

why don't you grab some rest you orange guy is not going to be removed, McConnell made that clear weeks ago... he will be v**ed back to the street in November and then the courts will pounce on the scum bag..
The EU worked on removing him well before Biden sh... (show quote)


I think you have been sitting on that banister to long. How was Trump going send anything when he was a candidate no president. And as far as the wrinkled old drunk,it was because she didn't know what she was talking about.

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Jan 27, 2020 11:47:06   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
The EU worked on removing him well before Biden showed and interest...


https://www.ft.com/content/e1454ace-e61b-11e9-9743-db5a370481bc

European and US officials pressed Ukraine to sack Viktor Shokin, the country’s former prosecutor-general, months before Joe Biden, the former US vice-president, personally intervened to force his removal, people involved in the talks said. Mr Biden did not act unilaterally nor did he instigate the push against Mr Shokin, despite suggestions to the contrary by supporters of US president Donald Trump, people familiar with the matter said. 


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All of us were really pushing [former Ukrainian president Petro] Poroshenko that he needs to do something, because the prosecutor was not following any of the corruption issues. He was really bad news,” said an EU diplomat involved in the discussions. “It was Biden who finally came in [and triggered it]. Biden was the most vocal, as the US usually is. But we were all literally complaining about the prosecutor.” 

Ukraine has gotten aid from the US for many years. In 2014 when Russia moved into the Crimea, President Obama stepped up the aid. when Russia began backing the separatist r*******n in the donbass region of eastern Ukraine, Obama stepped it up once more..

The vast majority of the funds, approved with bipartisan support in Congress, has financed items such as sniper rifles; rocket-propelled grenade launchers; counter-artillery radars; command and control and communications systems; night vision goggles; medical equipment; as well training and logistical support.

1.5 billion in aid, but it did not include the missiles of trumps dream as no one wanted an escalation of the conflict.. those missiles now rest in western Ukraine, no where near the Russian tanks.. gathering dust..

What makes you think Pelosi did not read the WP complaint?? Or read the transcript of the call,which was public knowledge..

why don't you grab some rest you orange guy is not going to be removed, McConnell made that clear weeks ago... he will be v**ed back to the street in November and then the courts will pounce on the scum bag..
The EU worked on removing him well before Biden sh... (show quote)


Your take on funds to buy arms just doesn't jive with the facts. Some funds could be used for defense, but nothing in the way of arming Ukraine to stop Russian invasion.

"While not without controversy, the Obama administration’s Ukraine policy was instrumental for Ukraine’s development after the Maidan. The highest profile debate regarding U.S. policy towards Ukraine has been whether to provide the country with lethal (but defensive) weapons. In December 2014, Congress passed the Ukraine Freedom Support Act, which gave the U.S. government the authority to spend $350 million on defensive weapons for Ukraine.4 Many Obama administration officials — among them Secretary of State John Kerry, Secretary of Defense Ash Carter, Supreme Allied Commander in Europe Philip Breedlove, and Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs Victoria Nuland — had advocated for President Obama to send Ukraine the authorized weapons.5 They argued that increasing Ukraine’s military capabilities would both send a strong signal and raise costs for possible Russian escalation. Numerous members of Congress from both parties have also pushed the administration to arm Ukraine. Those who do not want to arm Ukraine claim that Russia could easily increase its support to the separatists, thus negating the effect of any aid the U.S. sends, while making the war longer and bloodier. They are also wary of the possibility of entering into what they view as a U.S.-Russia proxy war, noting that Ukraine has the capability to produce its own weapons. Due to these conflicting views and concerns, the $350million for lethal aid remains unspent."

"said an EU diplomat involved in the discussions" about others wanting Shokin removed. LOL! It's always anonymous sources with you l*****ts. Sorry, but no cigar!

As for Pelosi, it was obvious when she made claims about the complaint and the phone call which simply weren't there, nor had any of it actually been released when she made her comments. She blew it, pure and simple, believing what Schiff was telling her.

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Jan 27, 2020 11:47:41   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
The EU worked on removing him well before Biden showed and interest...


https://www.ft.com/content/e1454ace-e61b-11e9-9743-db5a370481bc

European and US officials pressed Ukraine to sack Viktor Shokin, the country’s former prosecutor-general, months before Joe Biden, the former US vice-president, personally intervened to force his removal, people involved in the talks said. Mr Biden did not act unilaterally nor did he instigate the push against Mr Shokin, despite suggestions to the contrary by supporters of US president Donald Trump, people familiar with the matter said. 


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All of us were really pushing [former Ukrainian president Petro] Poroshenko that he needs to do something, because the prosecutor was not following any of the corruption issues. He was really bad news,” said an EU diplomat involved in the discussions. “It was Biden who finally came in [and triggered it]. Biden was the most vocal, as the US usually is. But we were all literally complaining about the prosecutor.” 

Ukraine has gotten aid from the US for many years. In 2014 when Russia moved into the Crimea, President Obama stepped up the aid. when Russia began backing the separatist r*******n in the donbass region of eastern Ukraine, Obama stepped it up once more..

The vast majority of the funds, approved with bipartisan support in Congress, has financed items such as sniper rifles; rocket-propelled grenade launchers; counter-artillery radars; command and control and communications systems; night vision goggles; medical equipment; as well training and logistical support.

1.5 billion in aid, but it did not include the missiles of trumps dream as no one wanted an escalation of the conflict.. those missiles now rest in western Ukraine, no where near the Russian tanks.. gathering dust..

What makes you think Pelosi did not read the WP complaint?? Or read the transcript of the call,which was public knowledge..

why don't you grab some rest you orange guy is not going to be removed, McConnell made that clear weeks ago... he will be v**ed back to the street in November and then the courts will pounce on the scum bag..
The EU worked on removing him well before Biden sh... (show quote)


You also missed a few other questions.

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Jan 27, 2020 17:24:43   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Your take on funds to buy arms just doesn't jive with the facts. Some funds could be used for defense, but nothing in the way of arming Ukraine to stop Russian invasion.

"While not without controversy, the Obama administration’s Ukraine policy was instrumental for Ukraine’s development after the Maidan. The highest profile debate regarding U.S. policy towards Ukraine has been whether to provide the country with lethal (but defensive) weapons. In December 2014, Congress passed the Ukraine Freedom Support Act, which gave the U.S. government the authority to spend $350 million on defensive weapons for Ukraine.4 Many Obama administration officials — among them Secretary of State John Kerry, Secretary of Defense Ash Carter, Supreme Allied Commander in Europe Philip Breedlove, and Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs Victoria Nuland — had advocated for President Obama to send Ukraine the authorized weapons.5 They argued that increasing Ukraine’s military capabilities would both send a strong signal and raise costs for possible Russian escalation. Numerous members of Congress from both parties have also pushed the administration to arm Ukraine. Those who do not want to arm Ukraine claim that Russia could easily increase its support to the separatists, thus negating the effect of any aid the U.S. sends, while making the war longer and bloodier. They are also wary of the possibility of entering into what they view as a U.S.-Russia proxy war, noting that Ukraine has the capability to produce its own weapons. Due to these conflicting views and concerns, the $350million for lethal aid remains unspent."

"said an EU diplomat involved in the discussions" about others wanting Shokin removed. LOL! It's always anonymous sources with you l*****ts. Sorry, but no cigar!

As for Pelosi, it was obvious when she made claims about the complaint and the phone call which simply weren't there, nor had any of it actually been released when she made her comments. She blew it, pure and simple, believing what Schiff was telling her.
Your take on funds to buy arms just doesn't jive w... (show quote)


"I'll have more flexibility" to kiss what? I shudder to think.

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Jan 27, 2020 17:28:06   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Lt. Rob Polans ret. wrote:
"I'll have more flexibility" to kiss what? I shudder to think.


LOL! Yes, we all wonder!

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Jan 27, 2020 21:17:23   #
roy
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Where is your evidence that other countries wanted Ukraine to fire Shokin?

What other countries has Trump denied or delayed aid to since getting into office?

Why didn't the House want to impeach Obama when he denied lethal aid to Ukraine for 8 long years allowing Russia to invade Crimea and Eastern Ukraine which y'all say is a danger to our national security?

Which presidents in our history have NOT invoked executive privilege?

Shouldn't Pelosi have at least read the whistle blower's complaint or read the transcript of the "call" before announcing an upcoming impeachment based upon those two things??????

Is there ANYTHING in the democrats assault on President Trump that isn't a twist of the t***h or an out and out lie???

How do y'all look yourselves in the mirror considering all that y'all have done to try to undermine an American president??

When candidate Trump lost the popular v**e in 2016, who won the presidency? LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Where is your evidence that other countries wanted... (show quote)


Did Obama ask for his political opponent to be investigated?

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Jan 27, 2020 22:54:47   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
roy wrote:
Did Obama ask for his political opponent to be investigated?


Yes. Trump. Duh!

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Jan 28, 2020 11:13:24   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
vernon wrote:
I think you have been sitting on that banister to long. How was Trump going send anything when he was a candidate no president. And as far as the wrinkled old drunk,it was because she didn't know what she was talking about.


You do not read well Vern? when the heck did that start? try it again..



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Jan 28, 2020 11:21:26   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Your take on funds to buy arms just doesn't jive with the facts. Some funds could be used for defense, but nothing in the way of arming Ukraine to stop Russian invasion.

"While not without controversy, the Obama administration’s Ukraine policy was instrumental for Ukraine’s development after the Maidan. The highest profile debate regarding U.S. policy towards Ukraine has been whether to provide the country with lethal (but defensive) weapons. In December 2014, Congress passed the Ukraine Freedom Support Act, which gave the U.S. government the authority to spend $350 million on defensive weapons for Ukraine.4 Many Obama administration officials — among them Secretary of State John Kerry, Secretary of Defense Ash Carter, Supreme Allied Commander in Europe Philip Breedlove, and Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs Victoria Nuland — had advocated for President Obama to send Ukraine the authorized weapons.5 They argued that increasing Ukraine’s military capabilities would both send a strong signal and raise costs for possible Russian escalation. Numerous members of Congress from both parties have also pushed the administration to arm Ukraine. Those who do not want to arm Ukraine claim that Russia could easily increase its support to the separatists, thus negating the effect of any aid the U.S. sends, while making the war longer and bloodier. They are also wary of the possibility of entering into what they view as a U.S.-Russia proxy war, noting that Ukraine has the capability to produce its own weapons. Due to these conflicting views and concerns, the $350million for lethal aid remains unspent."

"said an EU diplomat involved in the discussions" about others wanting Shokin removed. LOL! It's always anonymous sources with you l*****ts. Sorry, but no cigar!

As for Pelosi, it was obvious when she made claims about the complaint and the phone call which simply weren't there, nor had any of it actually been released when she made her comments. She blew it, pure and simple, believing what Schiff was telling her.
Your take on funds to buy arms just doesn't jive w... (show quote)



Bet you do not have a link or a time line for you post do you..

Pelosi, from the time of that f**e video of her slurring her words, all you people can say is that she is a drunk... get more proof, or get a new slander..

Or are you saying President Obama sent unauthorized war material?

What ever was sent it kept Russia from escalating the war and the separatists remain in the east..

Or did you want Ukraine to Invade Russia???



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Jan 28, 2020 11:22:50   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
You also missed a few other questions.




Such as???



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Jan 28, 2020 11:44:23   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
Bet you do not have a link or a time line for you post do you..

Pelosi, from the time of that f**e video of her slurring her words, all you people can say is that she is a drunk... get more proof, or get a new slander..

Or are you saying President Obama sent unauthorized war material?

What ever was sent it kept Russia from escalating the war and the separatists remain in the east..

Or did you want Ukraine to Invade Russia???


You're just obfuscating and get your own link. Find out what Obama "military" aid was and what it was used for. And then, look at the dates when Russian took Crimea and moved into eastern Ukraine.

Obama was a scared to give Ukraine lethal aid because he was a scared the Putin might get mad. Wiener. Then again, maybe that was what he agreed to when he asked Russia to give him until after the e******n so he would have greater flexibility! LOLOL!

Did I want Russia to invade Ukraine? Does that matter whether I did or didn't? They did. There was a separatist group wanting to separate from Ukraine and so Russia backed them since a huge support for that separatist group were Russian nationals who have lived there for may years during the USSR era. If Russia had wanted Ukraine in it's entirety, they could have easily taken it, over thrown the corrupt government and Obama would have watched while sitting on his hands. I think you know nothing about the on the ground situation there. It is much like Georgia was. Russia moved in to help Russian nationals who were in need of being freed from radicals/rebels who did not have the best interests of Russian nationals in mind. Russia could have easily taken ALL of Georgia as well but only went so fer as to help those who wanted Russian help.

Western media is as dishonest about all this as they are about Trump. Live and learn permy, you have not a clue. You only have the l*****t propagandizing US media.

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