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Jan 22, 2020 23:16:51   #
rumitoid
 
Unique means one of a kind, singular in nature, incomparable. There is no more or less unique. This means that billions and billions and billions and billions of humans, made in the image and likeness of God, each have a singular function and perspective and purpose and gifts. This unfathomable diversity is all part of God's plan. If such unfathomable diversity exists, what is God telling us? There are tens of thousands of Christian sects perhaps because of this uniqueness, not one Christian totally believes in what another Christian believes. Who has the truth, then?

I suggest God is far, far bigger than we imagine. Love could take care of all that, if we let it. That endless diversity is centered in love of God, all that matters. But we place our beliefs first above God's unique expression in our singular being.

Ephesians 4 says: 1 As a prisoner for the Lord, then, I urge you to live a life worthy of the calling you have received. 2 Be completely humble and gentle; be patient, bearing with one another in love. 3 Make every effort to keep the unity of the Spirit through the bond of peace. 4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.

7 But to each one of us grace has been given as Christ apportioned it. 8 This is why it a says: “When he ascended on high, he took many captives and gave gifts to his people.”

Paul could only say this if there was one unifying force and purpose to his children, and as he said many times, it is love and not dogma, doctrine, or articles of faith. Love is the one, true Gospel.

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Jan 23, 2020 05:53:55   #
Quakerwidow Loc: Chestertown, MD
 
rumitoid wrote:
Unique means one of a kind, singular in nature, incomparable. There is no more or less unique. This means that billions and billions and billions and billions of humans, made in the image and likeness of God, each have a singular function and perspective and purpose and gifts. This unfathomable diversity is all part of God's plan. If such unfathomable diversity exists, what is God telling us? There are tens of thousands of Christian sects perhaps because of this uniqueness, not one Christian totally believes in what another Christian believes. Who has the truth, then?

I suggest God is far, far bigger than we imagine. Love could take care of all that, if we let it. That endless diversity is centered in love of God, all that matters. But we place our beliefs first above God's unique expression in our singular being.

Ephesians 4 says: 1 As a prisoner for the Lord, then, I urge you to live a life worthy of the calling you have received. 2 Be completely humble and gentle; be patient, bearing with one another in love. 3 Make every effort to keep the unity of the Spirit through the bond of peace. 4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.

7 But to each one of us grace has been given as Christ apportioned it. 8 This is why it a says: “When he ascended on high, he took many captives and gave gifts to his people.”

Paul could only say this if there was one unifying force and purpose to his children, and as he said many times, it is love and not dogma, doctrine, or articles of faith. Love is the one, true Gospel.
Unique means one of a kind, singular in nature, in... (show quote)


Amen.

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Jan 23, 2020 07:01:42   #
Rose42
 
rumitoid wrote:
Unique means one of a kind, singular in nature, incomparable. There is no more or less unique. This means that billions and billions and billions and billions of humans, made in the image and likeness of God, each have a singular function and perspective and purpose and gifts. This unfathomable diversity is all part of God's plan. If such unfathomable diversity exists, what is God telling us? There are tens of thousands of Christian sects perhaps because of this uniqueness, not one Christian totally believes in what another Christian believes. Who has the truth, then?

I suggest God is far, far bigger than we imagine. Love could take care of all that, if we let it. That endless diversity is centered in love of God, all that matters. But we place our beliefs first above God's unique expression in our singular being.

Ephesians 4 says: 1 As a prisoner for the Lord, then, I urge you to live a life worthy of the calling you have received. 2 Be completely humble and gentle; be patient, bearing with one another in love. 3 Make every effort to keep the unity of the Spirit through the bond of peace. 4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.

7 But to each one of us grace has been given as Christ apportioned it. 8 This is why it a says: “When he ascended on high, he took many captives and gave gifts to his people.”

Paul could only say this if there was one unifying force and purpose to his children, and as he said many times, it is love and not dogma, doctrine, or articles of faith. Love is the one, true Gospel.
Unique means one of a kind, singular in nature, in... (show quote)


Who has truth? You ignore the parts of the bible you don’t like, you’ve mocked God and Christ numerous times, mocked His word and misuse scripture for political argument among other things.

You avoid the question what it means to be saved. The bible has the answers we need for our spiritual life. Not you.

Christianity isn’t a denomination. Christians know what it means to be saved. The question is do YOU?

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Jan 23, 2020 11:07:04   #
bahmer
 
Rose42 wrote:
Who has truth? You ignore the parts of the bible you don’t like, you’ve mocked God and Christ numerous times, mocked His word and misuse scripture for political argument among other things.

You avoid the question what it means to be saved. The bible has the answers we need for our spiritual life. Not you.

Christianity isn’t a denomination. Christians know what it means to be saved. The question is do YOU?


Amen and Amen

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Jan 23, 2020 19:04:22   #
TexaCan Loc: Heart in W Texas - feet on the beach in Al.
 
rumitoid wrote:
Unique means one of a kind, singular in nature, incomparable. There is no more or less unique. This means that billions and billions and billions and billions of humans, made in the image and likeness of God, each have a singular function and perspective and purpose and gifts. This unfathomable diversity is all part of God's plan. If such unfathomable diversity exists, what is God telling us? There are tens of thousands of Christian sects perhaps because of this uniqueness, not one Christian totally believes in what another Christian believes. Who has the truth, then?

I suggest God is far, far bigger than we imagine. Love could take care of all that, if we let it. That endless diversity is centered in love of God, all that matters. But we place our beliefs first above God's unique expression in our singular being.

Ephesians 4 says: 1 As a prisoner for the Lord, then, I urge you to live a life worthy of the calling you have received. 2 Be completely humble and gentle; be patient, bearing with one another in love. 3 Make every effort to keep the unity of the Spirit through the bond of peace. 4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.

7 But to each one of us grace has been given as Christ apportioned it. 8 This is why it a says: “When he ascended on high, he took many captives and gave gifts to his people.”

Paul could only say this if there was one unifying force and purpose to his children, and as he said many times, it is love and not dogma, doctrine, or articles of faith. Love is the one, true Gospel.
Unique means one of a kind, singular in nature, in... (show quote)


Galatians 1:8
But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s CURSE!

Paul did not preach that love is the one, true gospel!

https://www.biblestudytools.com/gnt/passage/?q=1-corinthians+15:1-6;+1-corinthians+15:54-57

This is Paul’s gospel. These verses state: we are saved by believing the gospel that Paul preached.
Christ died for our sins
He was buried and raised on the third day


John 14: 6
I am the way, the truth, and the life, no man comets unto the Father, but by me.

Ephesians 1: 13
And in him, having heard and believed the word of truth - the gospel of your salvation- you were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit.



Romans 16: 25-27
Now to Him who is able to establish you according to my gospel and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery (secret) kept secret since the world began but now made manifest, and by the prophetic Scriptures made known to all nations according to the commandment of the everlasting God, for obedience to the faith to God, alone wise, be glory through Jesus Christ forever. Amen

The truth is that Jesus was born of a virgin, Mary (Mathew 1: 18-25) He lived a sinless life, was crucified, buried, and then arose on the 3rd day. He appeared to over 500 men and all of His Apostles, after 40 days He ascended to Heaven to sit at the right of God the Father. If a person truly believes this, confess with their mouth, repent of their sins, we are then Indwelt with the Holy Spirit! The Holy Spirit becomes our teacher and guide. 1 John 2: 26-27 We no longer have to depend on man to tell us what the Bible teaches!

Many Christians believe that we are living in the end times and that the Rapture of the Church is soon because so many signs that Jesus taught have been fulfilled and is being fulfilled. Whether it happens before, mid, or after the tribulation it doesn’t effect our salvation as to which we believed. This is an example of Christians disagreeing on some verses. Most Christians believe the birth, death and resurrection of Christ, that his blood washed our sins away! On this we must agree!


MARANATHA!
Come, Lord Jesus, Come

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Jan 23, 2020 21:20:12   #
rumitoid
 
Rose42 wrote:
Who has truth? You ignore the parts of the bible you don’t like, you’ve mocked God and Christ numerous times, mocked His word and misuse scripture for political argument among other things.

You avoid the question what it means to be saved. The bible has the answers we need for our spiritual life. Not you.

Christianity isn’t a denomination. Christians know what it means to be saved. The question is do YOU?


Thank you for your interest in the state of my soul.

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Jan 23, 2020 21:29:08   #
rumitoid
 
TexaCan wrote:
Galatians 1:8
But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s CURSE!

Paul did not preach that"

https://www.biblestudytools.com/gnt/passage/?q=1-corinthians+15:1-6;+1-corinthians+15:54-57

This is Paul’s gospel. These verses state: we are saved by believing the gospel that Paul preached.
Christ died for our sins
He was buried and raised on the third day


John 14: 6
I am the way, the truth, and the life, no man comets unto the Father, but by me.

Ephesians 1: 13
And in him, having heard and believed the word of truth - the gospel of your salvation- you were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit.



Romans 16: 25-27
Now to Him who is able to establish you according to my gospel and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery (secret) kept secret since the world began but now made manifest, and by the prophetic Scriptures made known to all nations according to the commandment of the everlasting God, for obedience to the faith to God, alone wise, be glory through Jesus Christ forever. Amen

The truth is that Jesus was born of a virgin, Mary (Mathew 1: 18-25) He lived a sinless life, was crucified, buried, and then arose on the 3rd day. He appeared to over 500 men and all of His Apostles, after 40 days He ascended to Heaven to sit at the right of God the Father. If a person truly believes this, confess with their mouth, repent of their sins, we are then Indwelt with the Holy Spirit! The Holy Spirit becomes our teacher and guide. 1 John 2: 26-27 We no longer have to depend on man to tell us what the Bible teaches!

Many Christians believe that we are living in the end times and that the Rapture of the Church is soon because so many signs that Jesus taught have been fulfilled and is being fulfilled. Whether it happens before, mid, or after the tribulation it doesn’t effect our salvation as to which we believed. This is an example of Christians disagreeing on some verses. Most Christians believe the birth, death and resurrection of Christ, that his blood washed our sins away! On this we must agree!


MARANATHA!
Come, Lord Jesus, Come
Galatians 1:8 br But even if we or an angel from h... (show quote)


Thank you for that in-depth look at Scripture.

One way of looking at it, that Paul did not preach that " love is the one, true gospel!" I disagree. "If you have not love, you have nothing...your are nothing."

Fulfilling the Law Through Love: Romans 13:8-10
8 Owe no one anything, except to love each other, for the one who loves another has fulfilled the law. 9 For the commandments, “You shall not commit adultery, You shall not murder, You shall not steal, You shall not covet,” and any other commandment, are summed up in this word: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” 10 Love does no wrong to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfilling of the law."

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Jan 23, 2020 22:49:06   #
Rose42
 
rumitoid wrote:
Thank you for that in-depth look at Scripture.

One way of looking at it, that Paul did not preach that " love is the one, true gospel!" I disagree. "If you have not love, you have nothing...your are nothing."

Fulfilling the Law Through Love: Romans 13:8-10
8 Owe no one anything, except to love each other, for the one who loves another has fulfilled the law. 9 For the commandments, “You shall not commit adultery, You shall not murder, You shall not steal, You shall not covet,” and any other commandment, are summed up in this word: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” 10 Love does no wrong to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfilling of the law."
Thank you for that in-depth look at Scripture. br ... (show quote)


The truth is in the word. You are trying to make up your own version. Its straightforward. Read the link Texacan supplied.

1 Corinthians 15-
1 And now I want to remind you, my friends, of the Good News which I preached to you, which you received, and on which your faith stands firm. 2 That is the gospel, the message that I preached to you. You are saved by the gospel if you hold firmly to it - unless it was for nothing that you believed. 3 I passed on to you what I received, which is of the greatest importance: that Christ died for our sins, as written in the Scriptures; 4 that he was buried and that he was raised to life three days later, as written in the Scriptures; 5 that he appeared to Peter and then to all twelve apostles. 6 Then he appeared to more than five hundred of his followers at once, most of whom are still alive, although some have died.

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Jan 24, 2020 00:11:50   #
rumitoid
 
Rose42 wrote:
The truth is in the word. You are trying to make up your own version. Its straightforward. Read the link Texacan supplied.

1 Corinthians 15-
1 And now I want to remind you, my friends, of the Good News which I preached to you, which you received, and on which your faith stands firm. 2 That is the gospel, the message that I preached to you. You are saved by the gospel if you hold firmly to it - unless it was for nothing that you believed. 3 I passed on to you what I received, which is of the greatest importance: that Christ died for our sins, as written in the Scriptures; 4 that he was buried and that he was raised to life three days later, as written in the Scriptures; 5 that he appeared to Peter and then to all twelve apostles. 6 Then he appeared to more than five hundred of his followers at once, most of whom are still alive, although some have died.
The truth is in the word. You are trying to make... (show quote)


Okay, thank you for your interpretation.

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Jan 24, 2020 06:08:13   #
Quakerwidow Loc: Chestertown, MD
 
TexaCan wrote:
Galatians 1:8
But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s CURSE!

Paul did not preach that love is the one, true gospel!

https://www.biblestudytools.com/gnt/passage/?q=1-corinthians+15:1-6;+1-corinthians+15:54-57

This is Paul’s gospel. These verses state: we are saved by believing the gospel that Paul preached.
Christ died for our sins
He was buried and raised on the third day


John 14: 6
I am the way, the truth, and the life, no man comets unto the Father, but by me.

Ephesians 1: 13
And in him, having heard and believed the word of truth - the gospel of your salvation- you were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit.



Romans 16: 25-27
Now to Him who is able to establish you according to my gospel and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery (secret) kept secret since the world began but now made manifest, and by the prophetic Scriptures made known to all nations according to the commandment of the everlasting God, for obedience to the faith to God, alone wise, be glory through Jesus Christ forever. Amen

The truth is that Jesus was born of a virgin, Mary (Mathew 1: 18-25) He lived a sinless life, was crucified, buried, and then arose on the 3rd day. He appeared to over 500 men and all of His Apostles, after 40 days He ascended to Heaven to sit at the right of God the Father. If a person truly believes this, confess with their mouth, repent of their sins, we are then Indwelt with the Holy Spirit! The Holy Spirit becomes our teacher and guide. 1 John 2: 26-27 We no longer have to depend on man to tell us what the Bible teaches!

Many Christians believe that we are living in the end times and that the Rapture of the Church is soon because so many signs that Jesus taught have been fulfilled and is being fulfilled. Whether it happens before, mid, or after the tribulation it doesn’t effect our salvation as to which we believed. This is an example of Christians disagreeing on some verses. Most Christians believe the birth, death and resurrection of Christ, that his blood washed our sins away! On this we must agree!


MARANATHA!
Come, Lord Jesus, Come
Galatians 1:8 br But even if we or an angel from h... (show quote)


"This is Paul's gospel." There you have it in a nutshell.
Jesus said, "Love one another as I have loved you."

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Jan 24, 2020 06:30:14   #
Rose42
 
rumitoid wrote:
Okay, thank you for your interpretation.


Your pride prevents you from seeing truth. You have to completely surrender or you won’t see it.

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Jan 24, 2020 08:14:58   #
TexaCan Loc: Heart in W Texas - feet on the beach in Al.
 
Quakerwidow wrote:
"This is Paul's gospel." There you have it in a nutshell.
Jesus said, "Love one another as I have loved you."


That is not Paul’s gospel! Reread the scriptures! The gospel was a mystery revealed by Jesus to Paul that included the birth, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. “Love one another” is a commandment!

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Jan 24, 2020 09:11:24   #
TexaCan Loc: Heart in W Texas - feet on the beach in Al.
 
rumitoid wrote:
Thank you for that in-depth look at Scripture.

One way of looking at it, that Paul did not preach that " love is the one, true gospel!" I disagree. "If you have not love, you have nothing...your are nothing."

Fulfilling the Law Through Love: Romans 13:8-10
8 Owe no one anything, except to love each other, for the one who loves another has fulfilled the law. 9 For the commandments, “You shall not commit adultery, You shall not murder, You shall not steal, You shall not covet,” and any other commandment, are summed up in this word: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” 10 Love does no wrong to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfilling of the law."
Thank you for that in-depth look at Scripture. br ... (show quote)


You refuted your statement with Romans 13:8-10. The “love” verses are commandments that fall under the law!

https://www.gotquestions.org/seven-dispensations.html

Before the death and resurrection of Jesus, it was the Dispensation of law, now we are in the Dispensation of Grace! Under the Law, sacrifices were necessary to atone for sins. Jesus changed this! His death paid for our sins. It is his free gift for all who choose to believe that He is the Son Of God, that He was born, died on the cross for our sins, and was raised 3 days later. Of course, we are to follow His commandments! When we are filled with the Holy Spirit after we have accepted His gift, we are then guided by Him to help and to guide us in keeping the Lord’s will. But make no mistake, following the laws will not save us......only accepting the gospel will do this. There will be many good men miss this gift of eternity out of stubbornness!
I sincerely hope that you aren’t one of those, Rumi!

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Jan 24, 2020 09:38:03   #
Rose42
 
TexaCan wrote:
You refuted your statement with Romans 13:8-10. The “love” verses are commandments that fall under the law!

https://www.gotquestions.org/seven-dispensations.html

Before the death and resurrection of Jesus, it was the Dispensation of law, now we are in the Dispensation of Grace! Under the Law, sacrifices were necessary to atone for sins. Jesus changed this! His death paid for our sins. It is his free gift for all who choose to believe that He is the Son Of God, that He was born, died on the cross for our sins, and was raised 3 days later. Of course, we are to follow His commandments! When we are filled with the Holy Spirit after we have accepted His gift, we are then guided by Him to help and to guide us in keeping the Lord’s will. But make no mistake, following the laws will not save us......only accepting the gospel will do this. There will be many good men miss this gift of eternity out of stubbornness!
I sincerely hope that you aren’t one of those, Rumi!
You refuted your statement with Romans 13:8-10. T... (show quote)


I hope so too.

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Jan 24, 2020 22:15:14   #
rumitoid
 
TexaCan wrote:
That is not Paul’s gospel! Reread the scriptures! The gospel was a mystery revealed by Jesus to Paul that included the birth, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. “Love one another” is a commandment!


Okay. Thank you for your opinion.

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