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Jan 23, 2020 01:10:21   #
Radiance3
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Every president in our history has, to one degree or other, abused his power and obstructed congress. These are the charges brought against our president, they are ill-defined, unsupported with facts, devoid of reason, and would never be admissible in a normal court of law.

Back in 1787, during the Constitutional Convention, one of the most hotly debated issues was the removal of federal government officials through the impeachment process. The removal of a president (and other certain officers) was not a trivial matter. Two Virginians, George Mason and James Madison, had a rather intense debate over what should constitute grounds for removing a president from office.

Treason and Bribery were a given, and Mason proposed adding the idea of "maladministration". Madison immediately pointed out that "maladministration" was so vague that it would threaten the separation of powers. Congress could remove any president it disagreed with on grounds of “maladministration.” This would give Congress complete power over the executive.

Madison proposed replacing the idea of "maladministration" with "high Crimes and Misdemeanors".

In Federalist No. 65, Hamilton explained impeachment. He defined impeachable offenses as “those offences which proceed from the misconduct of public men, or in other words from the abuse or violation of some public trust. They are of a nature which may with peculiar propriety be denominated political, as they relate chiefly to injuries done immediately to the society itself.” The impeachment process is political in nature, not criminal. Congress has no power to impose criminal penalties on impeached officials.

Now, read carefully how they worded the impeachment clause (Article 1, Section 4, US Constitution):

shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or OTHER high Crimes and Misdemeanors. The word "OTHER" means that any and all high Crimes and Misdemeanors are as serious as Treason and Bribery and must be held to the same standard.

What the Pelosi/Schitt/Nadler crime cabal has done, without following the Article V process for amending the Constitution, is they have shamelessly, brazenly, illegally amended Article 1, Section 4, of the US Constitution and lowered the bar to "maladministration" - and in the eyes of l*****t progs, the fact that President Trump is still alive is "maladministration".

And, the same people who headed those shameful investigations in the HOR, are now managers in the senate trial. Today, the pencil necked POS from Commufornia had the freaking gaul to stand there in the senate chambers and dictate to the senators how the trial should be run. He lied, and he lied, and he lied again as once more he described the manufactured evidence for articles of impeachment.

What we are witnessing today, folks, is a mob of maladjusted malcontents and ideological i***ts who actually believe that congress has plenary power over the Executive branch and that congress is running the country.
Every president in our history has, to one degree ... (show quote)

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Excellent.

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Jan 23, 2020 12:56:33   #
Trooper745 Loc: Carolina
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Every president in our history has, to one degree or other, abused his power and obstructed congress. These are the charges brought against our president, they are ill-defined, unsupported with facts, devoid of reason, and would never be admissible in a normal court of law.

Back in 1787, during the Constitutional Convention, one of the most hotly debated issues was the removal of federal government officials through the impeachment process. The removal of a president (and other certain officers) was not a trivial matter. Two Virginians, George Mason and James Madison, had a rather intense debate over what should constitute grounds for removing a president from office.

Treason and Bribery were a given, and Mason proposed adding the idea of "maladministration". Madison immediately pointed out that "maladministration" was so vague that it would threaten the separation of powers. Congress could remove any president it disagreed with on grounds of “maladministration.” This would give Congress complete power over the executive.

Madison proposed replacing the idea of "maladministration" with "high Crimes and Misdemeanors".

In Federalist No. 65, Hamilton explained impeachment. He defined impeachable offenses as “those offences which proceed from the misconduct of public men, or in other words from the abuse or violation of some public trust. They are of a nature which may with peculiar propriety be denominated political, as they relate chiefly to injuries done immediately to the society itself.” The impeachment process is political in nature, not criminal. Congress has no power to impose criminal penalties on impeached officials.

Now, read carefully how they worded the impeachment clause (Article 1, Section 4, US Constitution):

shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or OTHER high Crimes and Misdemeanors. The word "OTHER" means that any and all high Crimes and Misdemeanors are as serious as Treason and Bribery and must be held to the same standard.

What the Pelosi/Schitt/Nadler crime cabal has done, without following the Article V process for amending the Constitution, is they have shamelessly, brazenly, illegally amended Article 1, Section 4, of the US Constitution and lowered the bar to "maladministration" - and in the eyes of l*****t progs, the fact that President Trump is still alive is "maladministration".

And, the same people who headed those shameful investigations in the HOR, are now managers in the senate trial. Today, the pencil necked POS from Commufornia had the freaking gaul to stand there in the senate chambers and dictate to the senators how the trial should be run. He lied, and he lied, and he lied again as once more he described the manufactured evidence for articles of impeachment.

What we are witnessing today, folks, is a mob of maladjusted malcontents and ideological i***ts who actually believe that congress has plenary power over the Executive branch and that congress is running the country.
Every president in our history has, to one degree ... (show quote)


Factful and honest, ... a very good post Blade_Runner!

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Jan 23, 2020 14:05:08   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Trooper745 wrote:
Factful and honest, ... a very good post Blade_Runner!


You can always count on Blade to bring real clarity to the issue.

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Jan 25, 2020 17:14:57   #
rumitoid
 
dtucker300 wrote:
Look, everyone! It the Mutual Admiration Society... Peter S and Rumitoid.


If one admires t***h, then yes, you are right.

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Jan 25, 2020 17:17:13   #
rumitoid
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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The GOP's and conservatives are peace loving people. They have high morals and ethics used when they want to bring attention to Congress or to the representatives of the people, or to the WH. We are civilized people. We behave with civility and respect, because we are civilized.

On the contrary, the RADICAL DEMS like you when you protest use violence and chaos that physically hurt and attack the supporters of president Trump. This is lead by Maxine Waters, and her armies are the i*****l a***ns, A****A, B*M, MSGANG13, drug addicts, and the rests of violent radical democrat c*******t like AOC, OMAR, Tlaib, the radical DEMS in Congress like Adam Schitt and Nadler.

Of course as a radical c*******t supporter, you cause violence, that include you with your big mouth, with many of the liberal c*******t supporters here at OPP.
=============== br i The GOP's and conservatives ... (show quote)


I thoroughly disagree with your assessment and will bring proof if you need it.

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Jan 25, 2020 17:18:18   #
rumitoid
 
dtucker300 wrote:
with rose-colored glasses?


Maybe, but we are fair.

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Jan 25, 2020 17:20:44   #
rumitoid
 
archie bunker wrote:
Mine are clear. With a little special shaping of the lenses to enhance vision, of course.


Figured, a feature almost all supporters of Trump cannot afford because of their warped beliefs.

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Jan 25, 2020 17:21:33   #
rumitoid
 
dtucker300 wrote:
Anything that will give you 20/20, 4-D vision without the red or blue pill.


Okay.

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Jan 25, 2020 17:24:10   #
rumitoid
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Every president in our history has, to one degree or other, abused his power and obstructed congress. These are the charges brought against our president, they are ill-defined, unsupported with facts, devoid of reason, and would never be admissible in a normal court of law.

Back in 1787, during the Constitutional Convention, one of the most hotly debated issues was the removal of federal government officials through the impeachment process. The removal of a president (and other certain officers) was not a trivial matter. Two Virginians, George Mason and James Madison, had a rather intense debate over what should constitute grounds for removing a president from office.

Treason and Bribery were a given, and Mason proposed adding the idea of "maladministration". Madison immediately pointed out that "maladministration" was so vague that it would threaten the separation of powers. Congress could remove any president it disagreed with on grounds of “maladministration.” This would give Congress complete power over the executive.

Madison proposed replacing the idea of "maladministration" with "high Crimes and Misdemeanors".

In Federalist No. 65, Hamilton explained impeachment. He defined impeachable offenses as “those offences which proceed from the misconduct of public men, or in other words from the abuse or violation of some public trust. They are of a nature which may with peculiar propriety be denominated political, as they relate chiefly to injuries done immediately to the society itself.” The impeachment process is political in nature, not criminal. Congress has no power to impose criminal penalties on impeached officials.

Now, read carefully how they worded the impeachment clause (Article 1, Section 4, US Constitution):

shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or OTHER high Crimes and Misdemeanors. The word "OTHER" means that any and all high Crimes and Misdemeanors are as serious as Treason and Bribery and must be held to the same standard.

What the Pelosi/Schitt/Nadler crime cabal has done, without following the Article V process for amending the Constitution, is they have shamelessly, brazenly, illegally amended Article 1, Section 4, of the US Constitution and lowered the bar to "maladministration" - and in the eyes of l*****t progs, the fact that President Trump is still alive is "maladministration".

And, the same people who headed those shameful investigations in the HOR, are now managers in the senate trial. Today, the pencil necked POS from Commufornia had the freaking gaul to stand there in the senate chambers and dictate to the senators how the trial should be run. He lied, and he lied, and he lied again as once more he described the manufactured evidence for articles of impeachment.

What we are witnessing today, folks, is a mob of maladjusted malcontents and ideological i***ts who actually believe that congress has plenary power over the Executive branch and that congress is running the country.
Every president in our history has, to one degree ... (show quote)


Your second sentence, sorry, is absolutely pure BS. Totally supported by facts...out of the president's own mouth. Follow the news.

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Jan 25, 2020 17:54:10   #
Radiance3
 
rumitoid wrote:
I thoroughly disagree with your assessment and will bring proof if you need it.


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Everything that comes out of your mouth are lies. Including that of Adam Schitt, and Nadler.

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Jan 25, 2020 18:40:01   #
rumitoid
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Everything that comes out of your mouth are lies. Including that of Adam Schitt, and Nadler.


Really? Please show how?

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Jan 25, 2020 18:42:03   #
youngwilliam Loc: Deep in the heart
 
rumitoid wrote:
If one admires t***h, then yes, you are right.


How can that be? Democrats are wicked.

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Jan 25, 2020 18:56:28   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
rumitoid wrote:
Your second sentence, sorry, is absolutely pure BS. Totally supported by facts...out of the president's own mouth. Follow the news.
OKAY, let's hear the facts.

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Jan 25, 2020 19:48:58   #
Radiance3
 
rumitoid wrote:
Really? Please show how?

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Listen to these facts.

https://youtu.be/2E1mOkNohl8

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Jan 25, 2020 20:16:57   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
rumitoid wrote:
Figured, a feature almost all supporters of Trump cannot afford because of their warped beliefs.


Huh? So....most all Trump supporters can't afford glasses with corrective lenses?
Where did you come up with that?

Does that mean that those who support democrats have the finest in vision corrective appliances?

Sorry, I just can't wrap my hed round dis.......f

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