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Jan 17, 2020 11:36:00   #
Lonewolf
 
And while we do it, we move a prision bus outside to t***sport the losers !

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Jan 17, 2020 11:54:34   #
Weewillynobeerspilly Loc: North central Texas
 
Lonewolf wrote:
And while we do it, we move a prision bus outside to t***sport the losers !




So, your side needs a mulligan? you had 3 years.........now sit back, shut the hell up and watch your dreams get crushed.....again.

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Jan 17, 2020 11:58:16   #
Seth
 
Lonewolf wrote:
And while we do it, we move a prision bus outside to t***sport the losers !


Great, and afterwards the bus can swing by to pick up the Bidens, the Kerrys, the Clintons and the Obamas.

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Jan 17, 2020 12:04:28   #
CarryOn
 
Seth wrote:
Great, and afterwards the bus can swing by to pick up the Bidens, the Kerrys, the Clintons and the Obamas.


Exactly ... and they will all come to know how it feels to be referred to as "orange man" ... only for entirely different reasons ...

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Jan 17, 2020 12:37:59   #
Seth
 
CarryOn wrote:
Exactly ... and they will all come to know how it feels to be referred to as "orange man" ... only for entirely different reasons ...


I wonder if Hillary will be able to have a custom tailored orange pantsuit.

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Jan 17, 2020 12:41:36   #
CarryOn
 
Seth wrote:
I wonder if Hillary will be able to have a custom tailored orange pantsuit.


I'm sure Bill could arrange it for her ....

... provided they can find enough orange material ....

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Jan 17, 2020 12:46:18   #
Lonewolf
 
Seth wrote:
Great, and afterwards the bus can swing by to pick up the Bidens, the Kerrys, the Clintons and the Obamas.


Fine with me but there will plenty of republicans on the bus with trump

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Jan 17, 2020 12:46:44   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
CarryOn wrote:
I'm sure Bill could arrange it for her ....




Silly dreams for silly people.. you right wingers are full of it..



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Jan 17, 2020 12:47:36   #
Lonewolf
 
Your afrade of witnesses

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Jan 17, 2020 12:56:57   #
Seth
 
Lonewolf wrote:
Fine with me but there will plenty of republicans on the bus with trump


Nope, it will be all Democrats and the honchos from the various agencies they corrupted, and suddenly they'll all be snivelling, wheedling and pleading for President Trump to pardon them.

After all the non-stop B.S. they've been putting him through instead of doing what they are paid to do by We, the Taxpayer, he'll hopefully say, "Let's discuss it again in ten years."

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Jan 17, 2020 13:11:41   #
MalG
 
Another of the Sect heard from.

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Jan 17, 2020 13:20:00   #
CarryOn
 
permafrost wrote:
Silly dreams for silly people.. you right wingers are full of it..


The only silly ones involved in this are the lying l*****ts in the House who are about to watch their hopes dashed and their humiliating defeat as their silly circus borne of nothing but partisan hatred becomes exposed for what it is and burns to the ground for all the country to see. Why else would pelosi, schumer, shifty, nadler ... and anybody else on the left who can find a camera to stand in front of ... be desperately trying to get out the message of "coverup" and "unfairness" in any Senate proceedings that are just now beginning? They know they have no "case." They delayed the "march" for several weeks probably because they were trying to come up with something plausible to divert attention away from the fact that they have no "case" ... and this is the best they can come up with? Laughable.

Speaking of laughable. This is the most appropriate video of the stupid march .... says it all, really. And I don't believe it is going to get any better for the dems as this goes on.

https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/pelosi-impeachment-set-to-benny-hill/

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Jan 17, 2020 13:32:45   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
CarryOn wrote:
The only silly ones involved in this are the lying l*****ts in the House who are about to watch their hopes dashed and their humiliating defeat as their silly circus borne of nothing but partisan hatred becomes exposed for what it is and burns to the ground for all the country to see. Why else would pelosi, schumer, shifty, nadler ... and anybody else on the left who can find a camera to stand in front of ... be desperately trying to get out the message of "coverup" and "unfairness" in any Senate proceedings that are just now beginning? They know they have no "case." They delayed the "march" for several weeks probably because they were trying to come up with something plausible to divert attention away from the fact that they have no "case" ... and this is the best they can come up with? Laughable.

Speaking of laughable. This is the most appropriate video of the stupid march .... says it all, really. And I don't believe it is going to get any better for the dems as this goes on.

https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/pelosi-impeachment-set-to-benny-hill/
The only silly ones involved in this are the lying... (show quote)




If the Democrats had followed up on the blockage of witnesses and documents, the Impeachment would not yet be done and we would be looking at many more weeks of court appeals and counter appeals. that is the trump trade mark court strategy, taught by Cohan the gangster lawyer who gave trump his life long strategy of outspending the others over time and money..

t***h,,,,you can not handle the t***h...

let’s dispense with the attempt to smear the impeachment by the fact that some r****ts and islamophobes cannot stand one particular member.

Yes, Donald Trump threatened the safety and security of Ukraine. It’s not the specific missiles, it’s the fact that Congress approved the missiles while Trump withheld them. That is a clear signal to Trump’s ally, Putin, that he is free to conduct his dirty nasty war and we will abandon our ally. That said, while Trump intended Ukrainian officials to feel threatened, that part of the case would be tough to prove. So the report, created by the Judiciary Committee, actually charges Trump with Criminal Bribery and Wire Fraud / Honest Services Fraud. There’s decades of jail time in those two charges alone. (The bribery charge is for soliciting a bribe, which means to demand payment for performing an official act).

Yes Trump did these actions to improve his chances of being elected. He didn’t go after Marianne Williamson or Cory Booker. He went after Joe Biden, the much loved former Vice President who is very popular with Black folks, and whose genuine kindness and intelligence makes him a formidable politician.

Yes, he blocked Congressional efforts to investigate. Congress has an oversight role and they routinely request, and get, thousands of pages of documentation every year from the vast and sprawling administration. Yet Trump blocked it all, an unprecedented move that no one has done before at this kind of scale. Thousands of pages of evidence are blocked. If Trump actually were innocent, he would have gladly released those pages. That is clearly an obstruction of Congress at an executive level, and while each count of obstruction only amounts to a few months in prison, each record withheld would amount to a separate count. Trump is looking at decades of jail time on the obstruction charge alone.

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Jan 17, 2020 14:22:29   #
CarryOn
 
permafrost wrote:
If the Democrats had followed up on the blockage of witnesses and documents, the Impeachment would not yet be done and we would be looking at many more weeks of court appeals and counter appeals. that is the trump trade mark court strategy, taught by Cohan the gangster lawyer who gave trump his life long strategy of outspending the others over time and money..

t***h,,,,you can not handle the t***h...

let’s dispense with the attempt to smear the impeachment by the fact that some r****ts and islamophobes cannot stand one particular member.

Yes, Donald Trump threatened the safety and security of Ukraine. It’s not the specific missiles, it’s the fact that Congress approved the missiles while Trump withheld them. That is a clear signal to Trump’s ally, Putin, that he is free to conduct his dirty nasty war and we will abandon our ally. That said, while Trump intended Ukrainian officials to feel threatened, that part of the case would be tough to prove. So the report, created by the Judiciary Committee, actually charges Trump with Criminal Bribery and Wire Fraud / Honest Services Fraud. There’s decades of jail time in those two charges alone. (The bribery charge is for soliciting a bribe, which means to demand payment for performing an official act).

Yes Trump did these actions to improve his chances of being elected. He didn’t go after Marianne Williamson or Cory Booker. He went after Joe Biden, the much loved former Vice President who is very popular with Black folks, and whose genuine kindness and intelligence makes him a formidable politician.

Yes, he blocked Congressional efforts to investigate. Congress has an oversight role and they routinely request, and get, thousands of pages of documentation every year from the vast and sprawling administration. Yet Trump blocked it all, an unprecedented move that no one has done before at this kind of scale. Thousands of pages of evidence are blocked. If Trump actually were innocent, he would have gladly released those pages. That is clearly an obstruction of Congress at an executive level, and while each count of obstruction only amounts to a few months in prison, each record withheld would amount to a separate count. Trump is looking at decades of jail time on the obstruction charge alone.
If the Democrats had followed up on the blockage o... (show quote)


All Presidents have claimed Executive Privilege at one time or another. President Trump has every right to claim privilege.

After he released an unprecedented number of documents and allowed testimony in the 2+ year long Mueller investigation, he has probably had enough. He gave them everything they wanted and they would still be fishing around for something .... and shifty would still be claiming/lying to have evidence of Russian collusion even though there never was any such evidence ... if Barr hadn't told him to SOGOTP.

He immediately released the transcript of the telephone conversation, too. A telephone call with a foreign leader, which is also unprecedented, in an attempt to show t***sparency and give the House what they wanted. But they won't stop. And if that is the case, then they can subpoena anybody. They can try to get a Court order to force testimony. They could have done all of that. Bolton told them he would follow a judge's order, but then they just dropped the subpoena and did a Roseanna Roseanna Danna and said, "Nevermind." Wh**ever their reasons are for not following through, I don't know, but the fact that they did not speaks to their confidence ... or lack thereof .. that they would find anything provable. That they chose to do a rushed, shoddy job of something so important speaks to major incompetence. They should all be forced to resign for the damage they have done to our government.

And anybody who trusts a report coming out of nadler's judiciary committee after this totally partisan fishing expedition and one-sided investigation must still believe in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny. If they had actual proof of bribery, soliciting, wire fraud, etc. then those would be the charges against him. Obstruction of Congress means nothing except widdle biddy nadler and widdle biddy shifty got their feelings hurt because they didn't get their way. Obstruction of Justice is another thing entirely, but he was not charged with any such thing. T***h is, they got nothin' and they know it. And in a few weeks, the whole country is going to know it.

And as for attempting to claim Trump was helping putin by delaying aid, if you really believe that then all of you ought to be calling out obama for refusing to send the Ukrainians any weapons at all when they were actually under attack by putin's army. He sent them blankets instead. And I think water, too. Talk about helping putin. Trump sent real weapons. And from what I have read, the money was t***sferred within the timeline set out by Congress, so technically there was no delay at all.

Wh**ever the whole t***h is, we will find out soon enough.

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Jan 17, 2020 14:39:52   #
Seth
 
permafrost wrote:
If the Democrats had followed up on the blockage of witnesses and documents, the Impeachment would not yet be done and we would be looking at many more weeks of court appeals and counter appeals. that is the trump trade mark court strategy, taught by Cohan the gangster lawyer who gave trump his life long strategy of outspending the others over time and money..

t***h,,,,you can not handle the t***h...

let’s dispense with the attempt to smear the impeachment by the fact that some r****ts and islamophobes cannot stand one particular member.

Yes, Donald Trump threatened the safety and security of Ukraine. It’s not the specific missiles, it’s the fact that Congress approved the missiles while Trump withheld them. That is a clear signal to Trump’s ally, Putin, that he is free to conduct his dirty nasty war and we will abandon our ally. That said, while Trump intended Ukrainian officials to feel threatened, that part of the case would be tough to prove. So the report, created by the Judiciary Committee, actually charges Trump with Criminal Bribery and Wire Fraud / Honest Services Fraud. There’s decades of jail time in those two charges alone. (The bribery charge is for soliciting a bribe, which means to demand payment for performing an official act).

Yes Trump did these actions to improve his chances of being elected. He didn’t go after Marianne Williamson or Cory Booker. He went after Joe Biden, the much loved former Vice President who is very popular with Black folks, and whose genuine kindness and intelligence makes him a formidable politician.

Yes, he blocked Congressional efforts to investigate. Congress has an oversight role and they routinely request, and get, thousands of pages of documentation every year from the vast and sprawling administration. Yet Trump blocked it all, an unprecedented move that no one has done before at this kind of scale. Thousands of pages of evidence are blocked. If Trump actually were innocent, he would have gladly released those pages. That is clearly an obstruction of Congress at an executive level, and while each count of obstruction only amounts to a few months in prison, each record withheld would amount to a separate count. Trump is looking at decades of jail time on the obstruction charge alone.
If the Democrats had followed up on the blockage o... (show quote)


When this impeachment falls through, watch the Democrats, instead of getting around to doing their jobs full time, simply come up with something else, and after that, something else.

All there has been since Trump was elected is one attack after another without pause. They fail to "get" him one way, they go for another, on and on and on.

How can you possibly respect your own intelligence when it doesn't occur to you that most Americans can see through this endless charade, and are tired of it already? Any i***t can see that this isn't about patriotism or concern for any set of Constitutional issues, but about pure politics, dirty politics in defiance of an e******n result the Democrats didn't like and about trying to derail the president because they know the people will reelect him, and the will of the American people counts less to the Democrats than their political agendas.

Had it ended with the Mueller Circus® you might have a leg to stand on, but it didn't. The very fact that they kept changing the charges before coming up with the two extremely tepid articles of impeachment they did only makes the Dems, and by extension you, for defending and agreeing with their actions, look profoundly silly.

The entire endless debacle also insults the intelligence of the American people, to whom the presence of a witch hunt is blatantly obvious, when Pelosi, Noodler Nadler and Schitt actually try to convince We, the People that any of this has anything whatsoever to do with a quest for "justice." It's pure, unmitigated politics at its absolute filthiest, worthy more of the government of some third world s**thole than the United States of America. The Democrats are demeaning this country in the eyes of the world and couldn't care less, and in the end, because of the frivolous nature of all these efforts to get rid of a president for no good reason other than that his opposition party knows they can't beat him in a f**r e******n with the pool of candidates they have, the Democrats are going to be punished by the v**ers this November.

You can link all the articles you wish and offer up all the rhetoric that strikes your fancy, but that's the long and short of it.

Anything you'd like to add to refute this will be more of the same partisan fantasy that just doesn't make it into the reality column.

President Trump will still be POTUS when the Senate trial is a done deal, more witch hunting will take up most of the Democrats' time right through October and on 3 November, President Trump will be elected to his second term and the Democrats will lose their House majority and a few Senate seats.

Then the witch hunt will resume for four more years, during which time President Trump will accomplish more great things for America while the Democrats spend all the people's time endeavoring to nullify the 2020 e******n.

As a conservative, I have no problem with that because all the Democrats and their mainstream media stooges will actually accomplish will be chasing more left of center and swing v**ers over to the Republican side.

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